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Wednesday, May 8th, 2013, 00:00 UTC

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bray90820:

that's what it says

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bill6502:

bray90820: Then create a file named /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf and put your changes there. For example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5643214/

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bray90820:

so should i copy and paste my.cnf into that

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bill6502:

bray90820: And restore my.cnf to its original value. The new file will override the value in my.cnf.

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bill6502:

bray90820: No! Just the line(s) you want to change.

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bray90820:

hum

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bray90820:

thank you

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bray90820:

what i am just trying to figure out is whqt it changed in the first place

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bill6502:

What distribution are you running?

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bray90820:

ubuntu 12.04

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bobp127001:

hey guys. anyone know if there is a way to capture transport streams from an iptv provider? telus optik tv in canada

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bobp127001:

i feel like the answer is a solid no, but worth asking

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bray90820:

and also using windows 7/8 to connect to it sometimes

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bray90820:

with xbmc

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bill6502:

bray90820: Then you may have had an update to mysql that changed it. You should have seen a warning that you had to respond to.

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bray90820:

alright

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bray90820:

and i would ask my xbmc error but i don't wanna bother you guys with itz

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bray90820:

eventho it partly has to do with mythtv

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bray90820:

bill6502: you told me to create /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf

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bray90820:

but mythtv works fine with mysql and always have

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backhand:

hi

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backhand:

when i scroll up and down through the guide the sound skips but left and right the sound doesn't skip

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backhand:

mythbuntu .26

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backhand:

anyone here not a bot?

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bray90820:

i am not a bot

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backhand:

awesome

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bill6502:

bray90820: After making the change, did you restart mysql? And did you make your change look similar to the one I put in the pastebin?

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bray90820:

bill6502: i was just asking why the file should be called mythtv.cnf

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bray90820:

if i am using mysql

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bray90820:

if it is a mysql conf file

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bill6502:

bray90820: you can call it anything you like, as long as it ends with: .cnf but, I'd suggest not using mysql, as it refers to a package. There's a comment near the end of my.cnf that explains this too.

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bray90820:

alright

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bray90820:

what about mysqlalt

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bray90820:

actually i will just call my myalt.cnf

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bray90820:

so questions answered

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tgm4883:

bray90820, because mythtv.conf is too confusing?

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bray90820:

myth.cof would to me refer to mythtv

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bray90820:

mythtv.cof

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tgm4883:

bray90820, true, but since it's in a mysql sub directory you know it's a mysql conf file, and since it's named mythtv.cnf you know you made the changes for mythtv

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bray90820:

myalt.cnf is what i am going to use

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bray90820:

well i am not making changes for mythtv

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tgm4883:

bray90820, but it's your system, it's not like you listen to most of our recommendations anyway. At least this one doesn't matter that much

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bray90820:

because mythtv worked fine with the other config

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bray90820:

for some reason

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bray90820:

but nothing else did

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bray90820:

the main thing was XBMC

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hmf:

hello like to build a mythtv box with an old amd machine in the closet.

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hmf:

wat video capture card can i use to do this, its 32bit machine?

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tgm4883:

bray90820, yes, we're all aware you like to use XBMC

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tgm4883:

hmf, what are the machine specs?

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hmf:

tgm4883 one second let me look :)

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bray90820:

tgm4883: well he was sing i was making changes to mythtv but i was not

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bray90820:

i was just explaining to him that i wasn't :p

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backhand:

hi, when i scroll up and down through the guide the sound skips but left and right the sound doesn't skip

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hmf:

tgm4883 amd athlon xp proprocessor 2.13Mhz

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tgm4883:

hmf, ram?

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hmf:

2 sticks at 1 gb each so 2gb

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tgm4883:

hmf, what tuner?

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hmf:

that my question i dont have one yet for it?

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tgm4883:

hmf, are you planning on using that for a frontend/backend combo?

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hmf:

tgm4883: its dvi output but i think no HD encoding so backend

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tgm4883:

hmf, where do you live?

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tgm4883:

hmf, and what type of tv subscription do you have (antenna/satellite/cable)?

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hmf:

standard cable with cox communications

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hmf:

i assume the tuner should have a coaxial connection

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tgm4883:

hmf, assuming that is digital, I'd go with an HDHomerun. If Cox is good with Cable Cards, I'd go with an HDHomerun Prime

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tgm4883:

hmf, if it's not digital, then IDK, as I haven't kept up on analog cards

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hmf:

yea no its going to have to be analog but wat is IDK?

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tgm4883:

"I Don't Know"

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hmf:

sure

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tgm4883:

hmf, probably pick one from this list http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Analog_Hardware_Encoder_Cards

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hmf:

tgm4883: ty

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tgm4883:

yw

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bill6502:

tgm4883: Isn't I Don't Know on third?

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tgm4883:

3rd base!

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tgm4883:

bill6502, I don't want to know whose on third. I want to know whose on 1st.

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bill6502:

Who! (I probably shouldn't have started this.)

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tgm4883:

the guy on first base

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bill6502:

Right, and the new guy, I'm going to dinner. You win.

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tgm4883:

lol

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hmf:

tgm4883: I can probably pick one tuner up at Amazon.

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hmf:

or ebay

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wagnerrp:

yikes, still using an athlon xp?

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wagnerrp:

about a 2800+ based off that speed

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lautriv:

if i build a kernel for a mythtv-only (htpc) client, i guess no forced preemption is more optimal, no ?

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wagnerrp:

i honestly don't think it matters

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wagnerrp:

it's not like mythtv has any real need for a real-time operating system

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lautriv:

wagnerrp, the assumtion is coming from "nothing else mythfrontend --> no need to even check for preemtion sources "

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wagnerrp:

unless you have very good reason to change that, don't change that

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wagnerrp:

that's a good rule for most kernel options

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lautriv:

wagnerrp, actually i wonder why an Athlon64X2@3,2GHz on a RadeonHD 3200 eats around 130% CPU

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wagnerrp:

mythtv might need to preempt itself

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wagnerrp:

the kernel might need to preempt mythtv

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wagnerrp:

and a radeon 3200 is garbage

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lautriv:

i know, whenever i have a choice i use NV but thisone is onboard

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wagnerrp:

i'm guessing you have some expensive deinterlacer enabled

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wagnerrp:

or, you're playing h264 content

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lautriv:

suggestions to opt that ? ( all is smooth but i see some boxes on big changes/moves )

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wagnerrp:

if you see some boxes, then it's because the video has those boxes

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wagnerrp:

because your tv station is not spending enough bandwidth on the scene

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lautriv:

nah, i'm talking about delayed refresh of certain areas

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wagnerrp:

like frame tearing?

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wagnerrp:

because of lack of v-sync?

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lautriv:

could be

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lautriv:

ok, switched channels and saw H264 ( at leats myth assumes it ) this is DVB-S2 setup runs OpenGL

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lautriv:

hmm, i was about to check where OpenGL-normal differs from OpenGL-high quality and is has the very same settings o.O

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wagnerrp:

except for deinterlace filters

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backhand:

hi, i am using an Nvidia 6xx card with HDMI as the output and the VDPAU video, is the VDPAU why i cannot see picture-in-picture?

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wagnerrp:

mythtv does not currently support PiP with vdpau

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wagnerrp:

since the early implementations of it did not allow for two simultaneously decoded streams

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backhand:

okay

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backhand:

is there a way i can fix the sound skipping when i scroll up and down through the guide?

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lautriv:

wagnerrp, maybe there is a detection-problem on the input-stream ? if i switch to a hdtv-channel (1080p) my OSD says still 720p.

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KungFuJesus:

Well, I asked this is #mythtv but #mythtv-users seems more active anyway. Is the AvFormatWriter class used to write and mux the mpeg2 files?

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KungFuJesus:

I think I may have found the source of a bug related to the same root cause as this one: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/61174 . . . 9f9dad7e4610

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phxKiitos:

new user.. question regarding http live stream m3u files

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phxKiitos:

if the network tuner is set for a http location on localhost and that m3u file directs to another m3u file on another machine..

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phxKiitos:

and that file uses relative paths, would you expect the relative path that mythtv requests from that point forward to use a request relative to the first or second m3u file

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phxKiitos:

i.e. network tuner configured for http://somehost/path/file.m3u

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phxKiitos:

content of the m3u directs to http://host2/somepath/somefile.m3u

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phxKiitos:

and somefile.m3u contains the files /trasportstreamchunk.ts

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wagnerrp:

this sounds like you're way overcomplicating something

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phxKiitos:

I can't use the m3u from the provider as I need to set channel id in the #EXTINF line

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wagnerrp:

so create your own version of the m3u

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phxKiitos:

I create the m3u and host it at http://localhost/foo.m3u

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phxKiitos:

and that directs to the streaming provider's m3u file

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wagnerrp:

why can't it point directly to the transport stream?

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phxKiitos:

how can I set a channel number for it.

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phxKiitos:

if their m3u does not have a channel id

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wagnerrp:

then make your own, and give it a channel id

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phxKiitos:

I do that.. and host the m3u at http://mythbackendip/file.m3u

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wagnerrp:

so where does their file come into play in any of this?

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phxKiitos:

my m3u points to their m3u..

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phxKiitos:

their m3u uses relative path names.

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wagnerrp:

why? why not point directly at the stream?

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phxKiitos:

so mythtv ends up requesting the actual transport stream segments at http://myipaddress/somepath/somefile.ts

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wagnerrp:

then give it fully qualified paths to the stream

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phxKiitos:

the provider is sending relative paths in their m3u

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wagnerrp:

so give mythtv absolute paths in yours

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phxKiitos:

I do that

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phxKiitos:

but mythtv is making requests relative to the first m3u rather than relative to the 2nd m3u

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phxKiitos:

so I end up with requests to http://myipaddress/somepath/somefile.ts

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wagnerrp:

so put absolute paths in the m3u, not relative ones

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phxKiitos:

is http://myipaddress/myfile.m3u absolute or relative

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wagnerrp:

that's an absolute path, and it's an absolute path pointing at your own address

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phxKiitos:

is http://providername.com/somefile.m3u absolute or relative

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wagnerrp:

you need an absolute address pointing at the IPTV provider

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phxKiitos:

exactly what I am doing.

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wagnerrp:

no, you're pointing at an m3u

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wagnerrp:

stop that

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phxKiitos:

then they start sending relative paths

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wagnerrp:

point at the streams

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phxKiitos:

if it is a live stream.. don't I need to know what segment to start at ??

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phxKiitos:

which is defined in their m3u

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phxKiitos:

using relative paths

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wagnerrp:

you don't just start with the most recent segment?

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phxKiitos:

and how do I know what segment that is without looking at their m3u

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wagnerrp:

i would expect that was part of the HLS protocol

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wagnerrp:

i've never actually used it

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phxKiitos:

wouldn't you expect the relative path to be relative to the last request and not relative to the original though?

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wagnerrp:

i wouldn't expect to have one m3u load another

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phxKiitos:

part of the spec

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wagnerrp:

playlists inside playlists just sounds like a recipe for disaster

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wagnerrp:

http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . fer.cpp#n549

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wagnerrp:

looks like it just stores the original URL of the original playlist in the object

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wagnerrp:

and applies all subsequent relative URLs against it

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** wagnerrp has to get up for work in five hours **

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phxKiitos:

thanks much

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phxKiitos:

i'll see if mod_rewrite in apache will work then.

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dekarl:

bobp127001: Telus Optik TV uses microsoft mediaroom with encryption (or so the internet says) I don't know any way to capture that on linux

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lautriv:

:) jessie is growing fast

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lautriv:

ups, wrong chan....sorry.

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dekarl:

KungFuJesus: if you've nailed down a bug and have an idea how to fix it, please open a ticket so it doesn't get lost. (I'm a bit short on time, but I'll look into it when I got some more time)

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TandyUK:

hi guys, any reason i cant watch a recording in progress on mythtv.

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TandyUK:

for example, i start recording program on channel X, and lets say wait 5 minutes

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TandyUK:

i then can go into recordings and see it, and dtart to watch it

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TandyUK:

but after the 5 minutes of watching, it fails, as if it stops at the point where the recording was when i hit play

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justinh:

shouldn't be any reason that would be the case

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justinh:

look in your backend log

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TandyUK:

hmm need to give you some logs then, as afaik this has happened since day 1

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justinh:

time discrepancy between frontend & backend?

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TandyUK:

the fe and be are different machines, dunno if that matters

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TandyUK:

there shoudlnt be.. they use the same internal router as ntp source

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justinh:

do they have the same timezone set?

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TandyUK:

where do i find tz settings in myth?

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justinh:

not mythtv TZ

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justinh:

linuz TZ

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TandyUK:

ok

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TandyUK:

where do i find tz settings in linux?

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TandyUK:

using u(myth)buntu

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justinh:

you generally set the local TZ during installation

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TandyUK:

im remote too btw, so via ssh

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justinh:

cat /etc/timezone

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justinh:

possibly.. can't be authorititive since I don't run the latest *buntu

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TandyUK:

ok wtf

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TandyUK:

isnt the point of ntp that the machines would have the same time

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TandyUK:

2 machines using the same source, and the dates are still about 50 seconds apart

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justinh:

depends if it's even ran ;-)

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TandyUK:

i just forced an update

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justinh:

and?

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justinh:

so does the in-progress recording actually stop, or is it only playback which stops?

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justinh:

it might just be that the recordedseek/recordedmarkup tables are corrupted

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justinh:

oh goody. Graham Linehan is resurrecting the IT Crowd for a finale

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dekarl:

TandyUK: which version is that. this bug comes up every now and then gets fixed and comes back up

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dekarl:

^- referring to "you can only watch as far as it was recorded when you started watching"

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justinh:

good grief. How does livetv ever work with that going on? LOL

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dekarl:

maybe its related to http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11316 where events (like the new recording size) go down the wrong pipe

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wizbit:

all my BBC channels show the aspect perfectly, however ITV channels have a black bar top and bottom

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wizbit:

what could be causing this?

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wizbit:

the plot thickens

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wizbit:

if i record a ITV channel and play it back from recordings, the aspect ratio is perfect

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wizbit:

if i view the ITV channel live, it shows black bars top and bottom

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wizbit:

how strange

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wizbit:

im thinking myth-virus

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tgm4883:

wizbit, that sounds like a terrible horrible mythtv plugin

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wizbit:

tgm4883: that was a joke

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tgm4883:

wizbit, yes, yes it was :)

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wizbit:

ok

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wizbit:

BBC channels broadcast at 720 x 576, and those display ok

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wizbit:

ITV channels broadcast at 720 x 540, and those have black bars

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wizbit:

how the hell did i get those ITV channels to fill the display before?

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wizbit:

and why do the ITV recordings fill the display properly, but live tv doesnt

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bray90820:

how would i drop a mysql database and recreate it

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tgm4883:

wagnerrp_, I recall we had a discussion with someone regarding hard drives vs cd's for archiving. Saw this today http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1 . . . rd_drive_if/

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wizbit:

got it working with a simple

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wizbit:

mythfrontend --reset

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wizbit:

anyone would think im a idiot

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bray90820:

since the mysql people banned me from the room anyone wanna help me in here

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sk00ter:

wizbit: about what

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wizbit:

i had a aspect ratio problem

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sk00ter:

wizbit: there a setting in the frontend for aspect ratio

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wagnerrp_:

tgm4883: of course with the proper filesystem, that issue is moot

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MrShake:

hello folks. I've got a brand new mythbuntu install. Frontend/Backend

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MrShake:

I can't seem to schedule any recordings

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MrShake:

live tv is fine

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MrShake:

frontend log: http://pastebin.com/Vaqzshmn

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MrShake:

any thoughts?

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MrShake:

backend log:http://pastebin.com/8Vh89Qw4

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MrShake:

anyone?

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mattwj2002:

howdy people!

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mattwj2002:

:D

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bill6502:

MrShake: Is your system *only* a combined frontend/backend? Asking because of the log entry: adding: Gelfing as a slave backend server.

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MrShake:

I figured it out bill6502

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MrShake:

just did

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MrShake:

I had local and master set to different IPs

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mattwj2002:

hi MrShake

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mattwj2002:

hey check this out guys!

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mattwj2002:

575 programs, using 1 TB (13 days 23 hrs 34 mins) out of 1.8 TB (647 GB free).

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** mattwj2002 dances **

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mattwj2002:

a lot of that is non HD digital

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mattwj2002:

the rest is HD of course....all digital!

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bray90820:

Can xbmc pvr connect to windows media center

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bray90820:

oops

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bray90820:

wrong channel

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sk00ter:

Yes

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mattwj2002:

lol

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mattwj2002:

windows media center :P

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** mattwj2002 stabs bray90820 in the eye **

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sk00ter:

bray90820: try media portal

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bray90820:

because i have given up with mythtv

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sk00ter:

bray90820: why

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sk00ter:

bray90820: get mythbuntu

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sk00ter:

bray90820: then if you still want to install xbmc to mythbuntu

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** justinh bets money on it not being mythtv's fault, as usual **

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justinh:

you've got to go a long way to get a setup as easy to configure as MCE though

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justinh:

a *long* way

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justinh:

as crap as MCE is...

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justinh:

and by 'crap' I mean DRM encumbered & impotent

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bray90820:

sk00ter: i was using mythbuntu

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sk00ter:

Was it working

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justinh:

what's the point in trying to dissuade somebody from using something else if their mind is made up?

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bray90820:

no

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bray90820:

mysql was having massive errors

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bray90820:

and no one could fix them

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justinh:

what? the old "could not connect to database" thing?

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sk00ter:

Did you set up backend

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justinh:

it's actually pretty damn hard to screw up a mythtv installation on mythbuntu, so well done that man ;-)

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bray90820:

sk00ter: i have been trying since january to get mythtv working correctly

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justinh:

unless that is, during the mysql installation phase you set the root mysql account password & somehow forget it 10 seconds later

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bray90820:

somethimes things wouldn't record and sometimes it just wouldn't connect at all and sometimes it wouldn't commect to 3rd party frontends and stuff

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justinh:

3rd party frontends which only 'feel' their way around & guess protocols.. *hopefully* never doing their own schema updates

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sk00ter:

With mythbuntu no reason to even remeber rootpass

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justinh:

for mysql? sure?

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justinh:

if mythtv isn't for you, it's not for you. little point trying to convert people

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justinh:

FWIW I *wish* there was anything else

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sk00ter:

Mythbuntu does not use default password of mythtv for backend

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