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| [00:20:44] | MistStlkr: | hello all. I just set up a remote frontent on an existing backend but it would appear that the frontend is getting either a partial database or an old version. None of the newer files in the video database are showing on the remote frontend despite working fine on the local frontend. What am I overlooking? |
| [00:22:47] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: did you refresh while in video window of frontend |
| [00:23:21] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: press m i think then select refresh |
| [00:23:36] | MistStlkr: | johnyRotten – m > Scan for Changes ? |
| [00:23:40] | MistStlkr: | tried that |
| [00:24:03] | MistStlkr: | currently checking for updates in case they are on seperate versions |
| [00:24:54] | johnyRotten: | Are the frontend and backend same version |
| [00:25:36] | MistStlkr: | ,... I just trie3d a Scvan For Changes on the local frontend and it is taking way too long.... one sec |
| [00:26:27] | MistStlkr: | johnyRotten – both the backend and the remote frontend are running .25-fixes |
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| [00:28:22] | MistStlkr: | johnyRotten – running a fresh update check/install on both to verify |
| [00:28:40] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: frontend setup for video can only point to right directory. Not sure if it can point to files not local. |
| [00:29:16] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: frontend setup for video can only point to right directory. Not sure if it is pointed to files not local. |
| [00:29:31] | johnyRotten: | Man messed that up |
| [00:29:58] | MistStlkr: | johnyRotten – half of the files show, but nothing added to the db after a certain time, from the looks of it, which is what leads me to think that somehow the remote frontend is getting an old version of the db |
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| [00:30:35] | johnyRotten: | What i meant to say. I think frontend video setup can only point to local files |
| [00:30:48] | MistStlkr: | backend had some updates pending, will try that to to verify they are both on the same versions across the board |
| [00:31:13] | MistStlkr: | that is incorrect. the ones that do show play just fine' |
| [00:32:03] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: are some iso files |
| [00:32:32] | MistStlkr: | none |
| [00:33:32] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: do all files show on frontend where backend is located |
| [00:33:41] | ** tonsofpcs is now listening to neil young... thanks, johnyRotten ;) ** | |
| [00:34:15] | MistStlkr: | will let you know as soon as the backlend finishes update. as of last check, yet. in fact one of the ones that doesn't show on the remote frontend was playing on the local frontend when I asked the question |
| [00:36:15] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: i had problems sorta like that changed write permission to 777 of folder. That seemed to work |
| [00:37:29] | MistStlkr: | you may be on to something there... I ran a chmod -r 777 not long ago.. maybe that is why the older ones show and not the newer. I'll give it a shot |
| [00:38:58] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: hope thats it. |
| [00:39:22] | MistStlkr: | johnyRotten – sounds reasonable. I' |
| [00:39:40] | MistStlkr: | I'll let you know. I have to wait for a few processes to finish and I'll give it a try |
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| [00:45:05] | MistStlkr: | johnyRotten- crap, lost track of time. I'm going to have to finish this later. I think you hit it on the head; the chmod idea seems to fit all the point I know about the problem. I'll try it tonight when I get back. cheers! |
| [00:45:53] | johnyRotten: | MistStlkr: ok |
| [00:46:13] | johnyRotten: | tonsofpcs: great |
| [00:46:25] | tonsofpcs: | :) |
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| [00:54:06] | tonsofpcs: | tgm4883: ya know how I was talking about CBS failing and Fox/NBC doign a good job with sports runover? Fox failed tonight... 20 minutes... |
| [00:57:25] | tonsofpcs: | and by 20 minutes, I mean the simpsons started right after nascar, 20 minutes after it was supposed to start, 5 hours after NASCAR was supposed to end. |
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| [02:07:14] | tonsofpcs: | tgm4883: yes, New is set in the data from SchedulesDirect |
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| [02:28:58] | Korny: | Any lirc experts in here |
| [02:29:14] | Korny: | can't figure out why my remotes just decided to stop working |
| [02:30:00] | Korny: | if I cat /dev/lirc0 device it shows its recieving the signal but irw is showing nothing |
| [02:31:07] | clever: | irw connects to lircd, not lirc0 |
| [02:31:19] | clever: | so, is lircd running on lirc0, and using the same socket that irw uses? |
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| [02:31:55] | clever: | and is the remote in the lircd config file? |
| [02:32:12] | Korny: | The setup was working prefectly before I moved |
| [02:32:36] | clever: | what type of receiver? |
| [02:32:45] | Korny: | MCE reciever/remote |
| [02:33:13] | Korny: | generation 1 mce remote actually |
| [02:33:24] | clever: | cant think of anything else then |
| [02:34:57] | Korny: | Strange thing is my wireless keyboard is not working either, wonder if something in the HID went wonky? |
| [02:35:17] | clever: | lirc0->lircd->irw shouldnt involve the HID layer |
| [02:35:47] | Korny: | ~/.lirc/mythtv shows a mce setup |
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| [03:18:49] | Korny: | strange, moved to different usb ports, and suddenly they all start workign again |
| [03:18:53] | ** Korny doesn't get it ** | |
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| [04:16:09] | MistStlkr: | johI donm't suppose we have a bot in here to pass along messages when a member signs back in, do we? I was hoping to pass my thanks along to JohnnyRotten. His suggestion was spot on and got it all sorted out. |
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| [04:22:00] | [R]: | MistStlkr: memoserv |
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| [04:41:04] | MistStlkr: | [R] – cheers |
| [04:43:33] | MistStlkr: | [R] meh, I get a reply that he isn't registered. ah well. |
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| [06:34:07] | dekarl1: | tgm4883: tonsofpcs: I can't read the full log of the night as I'm about to leave for work, but I'm looking forward to you two joining in when I start writing the spec for extending musicbrainz to tvbrainz. Stuff like "what does new mean and why not" is exactly the kind of stuff that our current "I want pretty pictures for my downloads" style databases don't offer :) (skd5aner, counting on you too ;) |
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| [07:31:52] | Shadow__X: | dekarl1: did you submit your patch to .26-fixes? and thanks again for your work |
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| [09:04:39] | bergqvistjl: | or is it something different? |
| [09:05:01] | bergqvistjl: | i.e. this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/freeview_iptv/ |
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| [12:14:34] | dekarl-work: | Shadow__X: which patch? The mythtranscode with AC3 is alreadys ported back to fixes/0.26 |
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| [14:36:29] | Chicago: | Hello users |
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| [14:37:15] | domtardif: | Hello all, does anybody know his way around metadata grabbing issues with mythvideo? |
| [14:37:59] | Chicago: | domtardif, not I |
| [14:38:19] | domtardif: | thanks anyway chicago |
| [14:39:09] | Chicago: | domtardif, are you a CableCard user? |
| [14:39:57] | domtardif: | no sorry, i'm on hauppauge hvr-1600 |
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| [17:18:18] | dashs: | Getting Protocol version check failure for Watch Live TV (says tuners are all busy which is not so). |
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| [17:31:04] | Oxyz: | hi ! Having serious problem getting my Cinergy S2 PCI HD card to work with mythtv 0.26 :( It does show up as a card, but after a few seconds or when I go back to edit the card it says error :( |
| [17:31:19] | Oxyz: | and the log says: FE_GET_INFO ioctl failed (/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) |
| [17:31:19] | Oxyz: | eno: No such device (19) |
| [17:31:55] | Oxyz: | any ideas how to get this card working ? Running Fedora 18 |
| [17:34:06] | Oxyz: | if I click on the dropdown for DVB devices it will tell me that it is a: STB0899 MultistandardSubtype DVB-S2… but if I save and re-enter.. error again :( |
| [17:34:13] | Oxyz: | and unable to scan for channels |
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| [17:54:15] | lautriv: | hey there, i'm about to build a new client/frontend where the graphics is an ATI/AMD Radeon HD 3200 ( onboard rs780 ) any suggestions for playback settings ? |
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| [18:14:31] | dashs: | 0.26.0 — how can I debug livetv frontend-backend communication error? |
| [18:15:17] | lautriv: | dashs, by log or some tests ........ did you ping ? |
| [18:16:05] | dashs: | Yes. Works better on remote. The LiveTV fails absolutely on the backend itsel. |
| [18:16:41] | lautriv: | dashs, had an eye on the load ? |
| [18:17:44] | dashs: | quite low on the backend — 0.18 at most |
| [18:18:21] | lautriv: | dashs, please paste some more details about hardware |
| [18:18:45] | dashs: | Same hdw was perfect for 0.22 |
| [18:20:19] | lautriv: | dashs, i have the same impression but my main-backend with an average load of 0.3 serves fine on 4 simultaneous clients, what about io/wait ? |
| [18:20:32] | sheppard_: | Oxyz: en0 not eno |
| [18:20:45] | sheppard_: | nevermind |
| [18:22:49] | dashs: | Basically hdhomerum and old nvidia card couple of SATA drives and lots of NFS. |
| [18:23:11] | dashs: | iotop is mostly zeroes. |
| [18:23:31] | lautriv: | dashs, NFS is a point, do you V3 or V4 ? |
| [18:24:15] | dashs: | V4 for those connects. |
| [18:24:36] | lautriv: | dashs, what distro ? |
| [18:24:42] | dashs: | debian 6 |
| [18:25:07] | dashs: | I tried to submit the hdw profile, but that failed to xmit. |
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| [18:26:44] | lautriv: | dashs, i observed portmapper running crazy on boot but that is on newer versions and you would have seen that in top ........... did you testwise write <somelargefile> to a NFS target ? |
| [18:27:04] | FabriceMG: | hello wagnerrp , ----> http://pastebin.com/MriZHgtu |
| [18:29:24] | lautriv: | seems i can't get any fluid video on radeon regardless of most settings, strange thing is that even a P3/i915 runs fluid o.O |
| [18:29:45] | dashs: | scheduler records 4–6 gb files routinely. It's a bit slow starting playback, but mostly works. LiveTV is a complete bust because of what seems to be mythsocket probs between front/back. |
| [18:39:55] | lautriv: | dashs, yes, my livetv does always a bit stutter/hang on startup but just a few seconds ......... i assume you're wired and on GLan ? |
| [18:42:07] | dashs: | yes wired Lan |
| [18:43:08] | dashs: | Do you get lots of log events for mythsocket.cpp complaining about unconnected socket? |
| [18:44:34] | dashs: | LAN id gigab. |
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| [19:04:12] | lautriv: | dashs, sorry for delay, got a phone-call..........i remember to have something in logs but that was around 0.24 and actually anything but the new(radeon) client works. |
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| [19:05:13] | lautriv: | dashs, you may pastebin the whole, sometimes a indirect indication helps |
| [19:06:01] | dashs: | With debug loglevel I get the message that says the backend may not be configured properly. Of course, since this was an upgrade, the schema upgrade could have left something out... |
| [19:07:55] | dekarl: | Oxyz: FE_GET_INFO ioctl failed eno: No such device (19) is an upstream bug in the linuxtv drivers that is triggered by mythtv... first google hit https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1309251/ someone mentioned it may have been pulled into the very latested linux kernel, but who knows |
| [19:10:29] | lautriv: | dashs, or some surrounding stuff too because 0.26 is recent while debian 6 is oldstable. |
| [19:10:59] | dashs: | I'll see if I can do that. |
| [19:11:48] | lautriv: | dekarl, any suggestions for radeon graphics ? |
| [19:12:53] | dekarl: | lautriv: depends on what you do... (not sure if you wanted to ask me) but for a fire and forget solution for MythTV now, get one with an nvidia chip ;) |
| [19:13:28] | dekarl: | ^- long version of I have no idea about graphics cards |
| [19:14:01] | lautriv: | dashs, just as a sidenode i use sid (unstable) and have maybe 2 issues/year where ubuntu-users have 20/minute ;) |
| [19:14:25] | lautriv: | dekarl, i'm used to NV but this one is onboard and _should_ do somehow. |
| [19:15:18] | dashs: | oyez. |
| [19:15:29] | dekarl: | lautriv: just use software decode + opengl maybe? |
| [19:15:36] | dashs: | paste backend as well? |
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| [19:16:20] | lautriv: | dashs, because backend is more worried than frontend i would start ther. |
| [19:17:21] | lautriv: | dekarl, will find someone who is using Radeon, just curious that even old P3/i915 work smooth. |
| [19:18:20] | dekarl: | lautriv: what CPU is that on? |
| [19:19:51] | lautriv: | dekarl, Athlon64X2@3,2 GHz, anything works well ( network/hdd etc.) seems to be just a render/paint engine issue. |
| [19:20:08] | dekarl: | lautriv: i agree, that cpu should do it |
| [19:20:34] | lautriv: | the i915 is on P3/933 and does ;) |
| [19:21:31] | lautriv: | however this is the kernel-driver, i hear nothing good about fglrx since ages. |
| [19:22:15] | dashs: | lautriv: pastebin name: LiveTV start fail dashs |
| [19:22:59] | lautriv: | dashs, URL ? |
| [19:23:00] | dashs: | lautriv: backend on the bottom |
| [19:23:29] | dashs: | http://pastebin.com/Ta6kyXvh |
| [19:23:45] | lautriv: | gimme a minute ;) |
| [19:25:15] | dashs: | take all evening... |
| [19:26:52] | lautriv: | dashs, where does your recordings go ? local to backend or on network ? |
| [19:27:28] | dashs: | Depends on storage group — LiveTV is always local |
| [19:27:30] | lautriv: | s/recordings/temporary recordings from livestreams/ |
| [19:28:52] | dashs: | Always backend |
| [19:29:00] | lautriv: | dashs, what kind of tuner (cable/atsc/dvb) and manufacturer/interface ? |
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| [19:29:49] | dashs: | HDHOMERUN box — twin ATSC to ehternet. |
| [19:30:37] | lautriv: | dashs, same network like server/client or dedicated to that box ? |
| [19:30:54] | dashs: | same net |
| [19:32:18] | lautriv: | dashs, you may try to increase ringbuffer-size(backend), no idea if the homerun has also tuning-delay options and having another NIC for the homerun would decrease saturation ( that traffic is not mentioned in a log ) |
| [19:33:10] | dashs: | I can try that. Defaults were used on 0.22 |
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| [19:34:39] | lautriv: | dashs, the "new" generation of coders like to produce bloat ;) |
| [19:35:16] | dashs: | At my age, anything in C++ is over-sized. |
| [19:35:49] | lautriv: | if it were just c++ i would be happy |
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| [19:38:03] | dashs: | This will take a few minutes. |
| [19:39:11] | lautriv: | dashs, if you have a closer look, there is Perl,PHP, "must have while hype" XML and i observe once each night the mysqld on my master-backend eating all resources from a quad-opteron. |
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| [19:48:45] | dashs: | Son cosas del la vida. |
| [19:49:24] | dashs: | But, alas, the result is the same with a ringbuffer 4 times the size. |
| [19:50:13] | lautriv: | dashs, sidenote : do you use jumbo-frames ? |
| [19:50:27] | dashs: | no |
| [19:50:49] | lautriv: | helpful for large streams |
| [19:51:46] | lautriv: | do you raid ? |
| [19:52:03] | dashs: | But this stream is only local. No flat, single image. |
| [19:53:09] | dashs: | Not knowing how this actually works, but isn't the live stuff picked up out of the ring buffer via Unix socket? |
| [19:54:47] | lautriv: | actually nothing is livce, whatever myth grabs, it goes first to the hdd. |
| [19:55:10] | dashs: | Well, it could be tee'd |
| [19:56:19] | lautriv: | haha, it could be coded in C or assembly but you said yourself "Ces't la vie" |
| [19:58:36] | dashs: | Most classic spoolers operate by always writing to disk. |
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| [19:59:40] | Shadow__X: | dekarl: oh ok thanks again |
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| [20:11:07] | dashs: | What pieces of code/config might remain from 0.22 that could cause havoc in 0.26? |
| [20:12:14] | tgm4883: | well thats a leading question |
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| [20:13:48] | dashs: | I'd like a strategy for fixing my LiveTV prob. Built from source. I suppose I could replace with a custom binary. |
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| [20:17:15] | tgm4883: | dashs, I didn't think mythtv used a ringbuffer anymore for live tv |
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| [20:20:34] | dashs: | Hmm, still in the diagnostics though. |
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| [20:22:24] | lautriv: | dashs, do you use your own DNS on the internal network ? |
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| [20:28:57] | dashs: | Yes. |
| [20:29:38] | dashs: | BTW, LiveTV does SOMETIMES function correctly on a remote frontend. |
| [20:29:55] | lautriv: | dashs, another point of possible failures, DNS is up and no IP/NIC changed ? |
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| [20:30:36] | dashs: | Everything samo-samo |
| [20:32:14] | lautriv: | hmm, i'm out of ideas ( and prepared for bed ) but i bet it's more your network than anything else .... loopback up ? |
| [20:35:04] | dashs: | Yes. Why would it work sometimes on the remote frontend (but not be able to change channels)? |
| [20:35:51] | tgm4883: | dashs, if it's truly random, then it's environmental |
| [20:36:53] | lautriv: | dashs, the "sometimes" part is what i'm curious about brings back your saturation by the homrun. |
| [20:38:19] | dashs: | Sigh. I'll permute of few things this afternoon. |
| [20:38:33] | dashs: | Thanx guys. |
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