Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, April 26th, 2013, 00:15 UTC

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jm|laptop:

justinh: xrdp is arguably lighter weight than freenx

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tgm4883_:

duffrecords, are you sure you don't have a mythtv user on the system?

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tgm4883_:

well wait

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tgm4883_:

stuartm, what am I looking at?

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tgm4883_:

stuartm, what does the backend need something explicitely named mythfrontend_en_us.qm

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duffrecords:

I do have a mythtv user. I must have been looking at users in one of my other terminals at the time :P

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duffrecords:

the problem was that I installed the mythtv-backend package instead of the mythtv-backend-master package. that one had what I needed

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sphery:

tgm4883: .qm files are translation stuff

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sphery:

that would be the translation for US English, which allows for pluralization, etc.

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tgm4883:

sphery, ok, but why does the backend need one specifically named "mythfrontend"

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sphery:

ah, because the backend is using the frontend translations for the backend's "frontend"

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sphery:

i.e. the web site

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tgm4883:

thats, confusing

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tgm4883:

I'll take a look though

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sphery:

(the backend web app)

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sphery:

that uses the services api and, eventually, will allow setup, etc--which needs the same settings descriptions as the frontend uses for them

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tgm4883:

makes sense

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sphery:

yeah, it wasn't pretty, but we couldn't think of a better approach

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tgm4883:

sphery, this needs to be on all backends?

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sphery:

I'd say at this point it should

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knightr:

and the people that did it sure couldn't ask the translation guys... :-)

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sphery:

all backends run http server

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sphery:

and have things like the status page

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sphery:

even if they're not master backends

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sphery:

knightr: pretty sure they worked with you guys, right?

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knightr:

no, not at all...

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sphery:

I remember a certain captain talking with you guys about it

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knightr:

yeah, after the fact...

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knightr:

when it was already done...

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knightr:

and not because they had asked, it's because I had noticed they were talking about it...

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tgm4883:

sphery, I'm assuming it's more than just that one file that needs installed on the backends?

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tgm4883:

sphery, I seem to have a mythfrontend_en_us.qm for each language

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tgm4883:

sphery, so I'm assuming that I need all of them installed right?

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knightr:

tgm4883, yes

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tgm4883:

knightr, I can ignore the mythgallery and mythmusic ones?

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knightr:

only mythfrontend_*.qm

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tgm4883:

knightr, ok thanks

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knightr:

np

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sphery:

right

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sphery:

knightr: ah, yeah... I think it was an after the fact

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wagnerrp:

jm|laptop: very little is lighter than X used properly

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sphery:

(btw, my "right" wasn't saying, "knightr is right"--because obviously he knows translation stuff better than I--but I felt like I had to say something so it didn't look like I was ignoring the question to me :)

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wagnerrp:

it's just that hardly anything uses X as it was intended these days

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tgm4883:

knightr, do these need to continue to be installed with mythfrontend too?

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wagnerrp:

so efficiency has suffered greatly

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knightr:

tgm4883, yes

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wagnerrp:

you just don't see it when running on a local machine, or even across a high speed network

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tgm4883:

knightr, ok thanks

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tgm4883:

that complicates things a bit

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wagnerrp:

so apparently the control box for my speakers was just glued together

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wagnerrp:

i had it velcro'd to the underside of my desk

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sphery:

wagnerrp: no problem, let's just throw out X and make Wayland--no, wait, let's make Mir!

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wagnerrp:

and accidentally stepped on my headphone cable this morning

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wagnerrp:

which in turn ripped the whole thing to pieces

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sphery:

wagnerrp: you did hear that Canonical is not going with Wayland, but is making their own display server called Mir, right?

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wagnerrp:

i heard something like taht

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wagnerrp:

i wasn't paying very close attention

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tgm4883:

sphery, note that if that continues, most mythtv users will be using Mir

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knightr:

tgm4883, each translation file translate the content of speciific folders in the source code, everything under mythtv (backend, frontend, mythtranscode, etc...) is in the mythfrontend file

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sphery:

yeah, I thought it was bad enough that we had one "X isn't good enough" (aka NIH), but now there are 2

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tgm4883:

knightr, we'll probably just have to move the translation stuff to mythtv-common

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wagnerrp:

four?

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sphery:

tgm4883: yeah, or at least most mythtv users are using a distro that will be using Mir

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wagnerrp:

xorg, xfree, and now weyland and mir?

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sphery:

tgm4883: whether we'll be able to support MythTV on Mir is a whole other question

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wagnerrp:

although technically only two are x

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tgm4883:

sphery, I'm told using wayland drops your CPU usage by 5%

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wagnerrp:

plus android has its own non-X display mechanism

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wagnerrp:

tgm4883: so from 0% to 0%?

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knightr:

if its a requirement for the others it would work (only problem would be that it would install the plugin translation even on a backend only system but that's a small price to pay...)

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** tgm4883 shrugs **

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tgm4883:

wagnerrp, I was just told that in passing once. Didn't think much of it

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tgm4883:

wagnerrp, xorg isn't using 0% on my laptop right now (it uses about 3%)

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sphery:

tgm4883: I'm sure that's when using direct rendering--which *all* parts of a desktop should use, according to those who subscribe to the "because I can" train of thought

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wagnerrp:

http://pastebin.com/PmxUABV9

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sphery:

because everyone should see their windows go up in a burst of flames when closed

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sphery:

or be able to spin them on 4 of 6 sides of a cube

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wagnerrp:

close windows?

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sphery:

/that's/ what makes people productive!

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wagnerrp:

you mean people don't just leave them open for the next time they'll need them?

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sphery:

hehe

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** wagnerrp rolls in that fashion **

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tgm4883:

I've got 3 open

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tgm4883:

xchat, chrome, and terminator

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sphery:

I mean when Firefox has been running for a week or so and you have to restart it to clear out all the JavaScript garbage from the Web 2.0 sites

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stuartm:

sphery: I think most people could agree that X needed replacing or updating, it's basically still what was invented in the early 90s and there was no real momentum behind an X12 so I guess it had to be Wayland – but Ubuntu's decision to go their own way is a PITA

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wagnerrp:

really gets annoying sometimes when vim complains i've already got a file open elsewhere

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** sphery sounds like an old man yelling at the kids' "newfangled toys" **

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wagnerrp:

i'm at least less apprehensive about weyland, now that someone has integrated a windowless rdp server into it

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sphery:

stuartm: Yeah, the problem with X is there are too many people who think that it's primary advantages are useless (because that's now how MS Windows does things)

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knightr:

tgm4883, I rjust realized that you might have mean only moving the mythfrontend translations to mythtv-common, if that's the case then I see absolutely no con..

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sphery:

so there were too many people trying to subvert any improvements--in part by adding stuff in such a way as to cause problems with the core architecture

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: wayland, not to be confused with the sinister Weyland Corporation :)

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tgm4883:

knightr, ah yea, that is what I meant

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sphery:

and it all started when Keith P said "in today's world, we don't need a display server because everyone does direct rendering"

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wagnerrp:

weyland yutani?

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knightr:

sorry, I had misunderstood...

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tgm4883:

no worries

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sphery:

and forked Xfree86 to make X.org, which planned to focus on direct rendering "but without removing the display server support--but not enhancing it"

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stuartm:

Weyland Corporation is the forerunner to Weyland Yutani (at least according to Prometheus)

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sphery:

and then later decided that keeping that part in was holding him back, so on to wayland

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stuartm:

which sucked btw

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rhpot1991:

should the imdb button in the mythvideo portion of mythweb work?

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wagnerrp:

i wouldn't expect much out of the video library in mythweb

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stuartm:

is that still there? No, I doubt it somehow, unless it was only ever meant to do a search of IMDB for the title

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wagnerrp:

that's what it was for

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wagnerrp:

it was never intended to apply any results of the search back into the database

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wagnerrp:

merely open the web page

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tgm4883:

yea it's there, just doesn't do anything

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tgm4883:

I don't even think it opens a webpage

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stuartm:

guess maybe IMDB changed their site breaking the current url?

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linuxtech:

Anyone here tried ubuntu/mythbuntu 13.04 yet?

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lapion:

sphery, you there ?

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toeb:

wagnerrp: "set nobackup" and "set noswapfile" stops vim from complaining about other open windows..

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Shadow__X:

is this problem http://pastebin.com/0XWRjB5T the same as the one in bug 2077 http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2077#comment:42

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Shadow__X:

I am trying to do a lossless transcode of a recording to get rid of the cutlists

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Shadow__X:

also where can I adjust the transcoder options in mythfrontend setup as this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO_-_0.26#Recording lists it under setup/tv settings /recordging profiles but Tv settings is not there

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Shadow__X:

ah recording profiles on .26 is under mythbackend setup under # Recording profiles then transcoders

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sphery:

"get rid of the cutlists" actually means "get rid of the video in the sections marked in the cutlists", right?

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sphery:

if so, about all I can say is that lossless transcode was (is?) mostly broken in 0.26-fixes

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Shadow__X:

ah yes sorry about that

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sphery:

it /might/ have been fixed in the most recent, but I don't think so

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sphery:

I think the fixes will go to 0.27

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Shadow__X:

well i also tried to transcode to mpg4 and that failed too

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sphery:

that may also be broken

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sphery:

anyway, update to the most-current -fixes

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sphery:

and if that doesn't do it, 0.27 isn't too far away

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Shadow__X:

this is the build i am on v0.26.0-149-g5f45c0b

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Shadow__X:

Library API : 0.26.20130225–1

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Shadow__X:

so yeah i guess .27 it is for me

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sphery:

yeah, that's pretty much current

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sphery:

could look at backporting dekarl's fixes to 0.26 (though I'm not sure he's done with them)

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Shadow__X:

he does have this https://launchpad.net/~dekarl/+archive/mythtv-transcode-ac3 ppa setup so i guess i could instal lthat

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sphery:

or, if you want stability and really want it cut, just cut it with avidemux2 or something

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sphery:

yeah, I think he did do a ppa for it

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sphery:

that would be it

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sphery:

I'm sure he'd appreciate feedback, too

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sphery:

(makes it easier to backport when it's tested well with others)

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Shadow__X:

i guess my concern would be i wouldnt want to fix transcoding while somehow jepordising something else working

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Shadow__X:

if that makes sense

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Shadow__X:

but yeah it might be worth a shot

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lapion:

hi sphery , regarding the mythtranscoder problem, I am using an ext4fs mounted on a separate folder on the system.

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lapion:

userhost sphery

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lapion:

oops sorry

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lapion:

am I correct to assume that mythtranscode cache the whole file in ram when transcoding ?

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lapion:

because most files cannot be transcoded because I would have to have a system with a lot of ram

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sphery:

lapion: I'm here now

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lapion:

cool finally while I am not afk..

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sphery:

lapion: and, no, we never cache any recordings in memory because we realize that recordings are way too huge for that

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sphery:

and transcoding seems to be mostly broken in 0.26

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sphery:

so it's probably just that it's failing for you

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sphery:

and unrelated to memory

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lapion:

ok it seems to work when transcoding files with only 2 cuts and only if using lossless transcoding

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sphery:

perhaps more related to what's in the file

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sphery:

I know there was a huge problem with ac3

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sphery:

probably more

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lapion:

and only if used with dvb recordings

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sphery:

(transcoding doesn't get that much use/testing, anymore)

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lapion:

everything goes ok if I losslessy transcode dvb files with only the commercials before and after the show cut off..

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lapion:

any other filetypes that get transcoded it seems to read the whole file into ram. but anyhow thatnks, I will look forward to 0.27..

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lapion:

I read teletekst is going to be removed?

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lapion:

in the netherlands teletekst is still a often used module

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Shadow__X:

sphery: what changed that transcoding isnt used or tested much

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sphery:

Shadow__X: from my standpoint, disk drives became dirt cheap and broadcast material became high-quality, digital (with no need for postprocessing)

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Shadow__X:

ah

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lapion:

hmm and removing commercials..

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sphery:

no need to remove them if you have a "real" client, though--just skip them (via detected commercial lists and/or manual cuts)

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sphery:

or, even in a pinch, you can just do skip forwards

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lapion:

cuts don't work correctly, the file will take a long time before starting if there are cuts in it

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lapion:

and when there is a cut in the middle, eg to skip commercials, the video freezes frame and continues only after skipping forward

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lapion:

so I just manually skip forward when necessary

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lapion:

and since nuv files can not be recoded I simply record frame grabed material directly as mp4 at low bitrates.. the original quality isn't much better any how..

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loganRun:

I have been trying to add the show defiance to my recording schedule. but no matter what I do it doesn't seem like it will record it. whenever I click on an episode it still says don't record

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loganRun:

never had this problem before

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loganRun:

anybody online

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loganRun:

has anyone else had this problem

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firl:

Anyone know why I might be having issues with .25 and .26 with hdhomeruns? cent os 6.3. I am trying to upgrade from .24 and freebsd where it was working

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firl:

mythtv-setup cannot get any channels, but I can tune it and see them on vlc

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firl:

Well it looks to have been a fire walling issue. after disabling the firewall it was able to lock onto signals and get channels.

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plut0:

whats the difference between 0.26 and 0.26-fixes?

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sheppard:

fixes, of course

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plut0:

ok, how do i tell which i'm on?

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gizmobay:

I have a pvr150 and when I change channel the channel comes up black with audio. I'm using a change channel script on my settopbox.

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gizmobay:

Here's the fe log http://pastebin.com/mepzfpDs

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[R]:

try putting a sleep in the script

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gizmobay:

It changes the channel okay. As I can hear the audio. The picture is black

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[R]:

ok

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[R]:

so

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[R]:

[04:44:48] [R] try putting a sleep in the script

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