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Thursday, April 25th, 2013, 00:09 UTC
[00:09:35] comingatyoubro: ran mythtv-setup --loglevel debug and don't see any debug info on what it's hitting
[00:09:38] comingatyoubro: any ideas?
[00:10:29] Gumby`: hi all. when mythtv starts livetv playback, where does it look for which channel it should tune to? I assumed this would be grabbed from the cardinput table from 'startchan' but this does not seem to be the case as my dvb-s card is starting on a different channel than is listed there
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[00:37:33] bill6502: comingatyoubro: If you type: ls -ld /tmp/mythtv_ddp_data does that file exist?
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[02:22:56] skd5aner: wagnerrp: I go away for a month and now there's restraining orders being issued against you... geeze
[02:23:27] wagnerrp: was there a response from the guy?
[02:24:37] skd5aner: no idea – I litterally just looked at the archives for the first time in like 1–2 months
[02:24:43] skd5aner: rediculous
[02:25:05] skd5aner: Also, they seem to really like commas
[02:26:13] wagnerrp: a search for that account name only turns up references to the mailing list
[02:26:19] wagnerrp: it seems he's actually a NEW aol user
[02:26:27] wagnerrp: or at least a new email address
[02:26:30] wagnerrp: is that possible?
[02:26:36] wagnerrp: are people still signing up for AOL?
[02:26:50] wagnerrp: can you even run AOL on a Mac?
[02:31:13] skd5aner: I think anyone can get an AOL.com email address
[02:31:26] skd5aner: I think it's been completely seperated from the legacy "service"
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[02:50:49] ubuntuaddicted: hi guys
[02:51:52] ubuntuaddicted: ever since i upgraded my hardware after i upgraded from mythtv 0.23+fixes to 0.26+fixes my system has been rock solid. trying to run mythtv 0.26+fixes on that old of hardware just wasn't happening with the way mythpreviewgen and mythlogserver were eating up resources
[02:52:15] ubuntuaddicted: just want to thank sphery and tgm4883 for trying to help me through all that previously
[02:52:46] comingatyoubro: bill6502: it does, remove it? or zero it out?
[02:53:12] bill6502: comingatyoubro: please post the output of the ls 1st
[02:53:40] bill6502: looking to see the user that created it
[02:53:50] comingatyoubro: mythtv
[02:53:57] comingatyoubro: -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 1 Apr 24 20:53 /tmp/mythtv_ddp_data
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[02:55:28] bill6502: Just remove it, but 1st be sure that mythfilldatabase *isn't* running (ps ax|grep mythfilldatabase|grep -v grep)
[02:57:39] ubuntuaddicted: 1 thing that is weird is that since I moved my mythconverg_backup.pl from root crontab to my users crontab I just noticed it stopped working
[02:58:46] ubuntuaddicted: i have a config.xml file located at ~/.mythtv/ BUT it doesn't appear to be using that info for the backup script credentials
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[03:05:58] bill6502: ubuntuaddicted: Try making your command look similar to this: /usr/local/share/mythtv/mythconverg_backup.pl --verbose 2>&1 >> /tmp/backup.log and then look there to see why it's failing.
[03:06:20] comingatyoubro: bill6502: thanks that worked!
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[03:07:08] comingatyoubro: originally thought it was schedulesdirect propagation or something, but after a couple hours figured that might not be the case
[03:07:47] ubuntuaddicted: bill6502, it's failing because it says it doesn't see the DBUsername or DBPassword etc etc but all that info is in my /home/user/.mythtv/config.xml and it also says it's failing to connect to the database from the local host
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[03:09:11] bill6502: comingatyoubro: Sounds like #11195
[03:09:11] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11195 **
[03:10:01] ubuntuaddicted: bill6502, ok, i just added that info to the /home/user/.mythtv/backuprc file and now it's working. hmmm, weird
[03:10:27] bill6502: ubuntuaddicted: You're on v0.26, those don't exist anymore and shouldn't appear in your config.xml
[03:11:04] ubuntuaddicted: those don't exist in my config.xml, only in my backuprc file
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[03:30:42] bill6502: ubuntuaddicted: You're right. I added them to my backuprc file too. But I chose to remove my mysql.txt file when config.xml was converted. Sounds like you may have removed it too.
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[03:41:18] Jester86: hey guys
[03:41:49] Jester86: anyone running 0.25 and having issues with getting myth to record a show if you're already watching tv
[03:43:00] Jester86: The dialog pops up, I select Record and Watch while it records .. but it never changes channel
[03:43:17] Jester86: It may start 'recording' on the wrong channel but I'm not sure of that.
[03:43:45] Jester86: actually sorry, I know it does not switch to 'record' mode.. if I back out the tuner shuts off
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[03:57:18] Jester86: How hard is it to revert from 0.25 to 0.24?
[03:57:28] wagnerrp: do you have a database backup?
[03:57:38] wagnerrp: it should have automatically made one when you upgraded
[03:57:42] Jester86: Yeah I have the automated backup
[03:57:49] wagnerrp: just drop your current database, and import that one
[03:58:17] Jester86: alright.. I think I may this weekend
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[03:59:09] Jester86: wagnerrp, what version are you running?
[03:59:26] wagnerrp: master
[04:00:25] Jester86: stable?
[04:00:31] wagnerrp: master
[04:00:40] wagnerrp: stable is 0.26
[04:01:03] Jester86: I'm having all kinds of issues with 0.25
[04:01:26] wagnerrp: sounds like you're having issues with live tv
[04:01:33] wagnerrp: i have little to no experience with that
[04:02:18] Jester86: I'm also having issues with my PVR150
[04:02:24] Jester86: well PVR150s
[04:02:45] wagnerrp: i don't use my any longer. all OTA
[04:03:44] Jester86: They work great to record shows but have all kinds of problems when trying watch live tv and change the channel
[04:05:19] Jester86: Not sure if its worth trying to debug any of these issues myself or just upgrade to 0.26
[04:05:26] Jester86: .. or downgrade to 0.24
[04:06:25] ** wagnerrp goes to bed **
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[07:09:52] bray90820: ServerSage: so i fixed my problem it turned out that teh IP Address in my.cnf is set to the loopback instead of my real IP address
[07:10:30] bray90820: [R]: did you see that :P
[07:10:55] [R]: and?
[07:11:20] bray90820: remember the problem i was having yesterday?
[07:11:44] [R]: not particularly
[07:12:14] bray90820: when mythtv wasn't connecting to XBMC
[07:12:44] [R]: a) mythbackend doesnt connect to clients b) a misconfigured mysql has nothing to do with myth
[07:13:10] bray90820: well why did it suddenly work when i changed the Ip address
[07:13:38] [R]: because you have no clue how networking works
[07:13:52] bray90820: Why do you say that
[07:14:14] [R]: because you woudln't be implying its magic and you woudln't still be insisting it has somethign to do with mythtv
[07:14:44] bray90820: i wasn't insisting it was mythtv
[07:14:50] bray90820: i was insisting that it wasn't xbmc
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[07:17:41] bray90820: but there is one odd thing
[07:18:05] bray90820: mythtv connected to the official front-end on another computer
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[07:18:33] [R]: as i already told you
[07:18:37] [R]: mythbackend doesn't connect to clients
[07:18:51] bray90820: ?
[07:19:09] bray90820: the front-end connected to the backend
[07:19:09] [R]: reiterates my earlier point
[07:19:44] bray90820: ?
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[18:24:10] Oleg_: why can't I stop the recording already in progress when I go to Watch Recordings?
[18:24:34] Oleg_: it offers me to delete the recording, but not to stop it
[18:24:47] Oleg_: why is that?
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[18:30:01] Steve-Goodey: Oleg_: Does it make much difference? You want to keep a part recording?
[18:30:39] Oleg_: yeah
[18:32:10] Steve-Goodey: I suppose the thinking was keep the whole recording or junk it if still recording.
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[18:36:50] sphery: Assuming it's still recording and it's not Live TV, it should offer to allow you to stop it in the MENU
[18:37:15] sphery: right under Playlist Options... might have to scroll down in the menu to find it
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[21:18:57] duffrecords: I just imported a DB dump from my old backend to a new server but mythtv-backend won't start. it looks like it's trying to get config settings from the mythtv user's home directory but I don't have a mythtv user on the new system. is there a way to fix these settings in the DB or should I create a mythtv user?
[21:18:58] duffrecords: http://pastebin.com/Mx4J7CMm
[21:19:49] duffrecords: I take it back, there is a mythtv user
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[21:21:24] duffrecords: but that user's .mythtv directory has a symlink to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt, which has the correct settings
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[21:21:58] duffrecords: can anyone spot anything else wrong with the log I pasted?
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[21:24:32] stuartm: duffrecords: mysql.txt is no longer used, we use config.xml
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[21:26:46] stuartm: mysql.txt has been deprecated for some time in favour of config.xml, but support for the old config was finally dropped in 0.26
[21:28:02] duffrecords: well, I guess the only error the log is showing is "CoreContext mythtranslation.cpp:73 (load) Error Loading en_us translation for module mythfrontend"
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[21:35:13] stuartm: locate en_us.xml
[21:36:48] stuartm: er, mythfrontend_en_us.qm
[21:38:10] stuartm: it's not a config file, should be installed with other application files in /usr/share/mythtv/i18n/ or /usr/local/share/mythtv/i18n/
[21:38:50] duffrecords: /usr/share/mythtv/locales/en_us.xml
[21:38:57] duffrecords: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/default/keyboard/en_us.xml
[21:39:14] stuartm: what about mythfrontend_en_us.qm?
[21:39:38] duffrecords: I'm running updatedb and then I'll try to locate it again
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[21:41:33] duffrecords: that file doesn't exist
[21:42:18] stuartm: how did you install, from packages or from source? typically when installing from source the files are installed in /usr/local/share but packages may use /usr/share or even another location, mixing and matching files from two different installs will cause issues because it's been configured at compile time to look in the wrong place
[21:42:52] duffrecords: looks like that's included in the frontend package, which I don't have installed. this is a headless backend. I installed it via apt-get, using the mythbuntu PPA
[21:43:04] stuartm: tgm4883_: ^^
[21:43:25] stuartm: that's an issue with the ubuntu packages then
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[21:45:30] stuartm: duffrecords: you might have to install it just for now to get the translations and possibly other files that are required by mythtv-setup but haven't been included in the right package
[21:45:56] stuartm: at least until ubuntu packagers fix the problem
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[21:48:10] duffrecords: I installed the "mythtv-backend" package but not the "mythtv-backend-master" package. do you think that might have caused some files to go missing?
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[21:53:07] duffrecords: I dropped the database, installed "mythtv-backend-master" and started the backend. it's started now, so I'll try importing the DB backup again
[21:56:57] sphery: duffrecords: use the restore script: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . ing_database
[21:57:19] sphery: also note that after doing an upgrade you should always use mythtv-setup to update the database schema
[21:57:29] sphery: (rather than just starting mythbackend directly and hoping for the best)
[21:57:47] sphery: it actually tells you when things are wrong, and will prompt you about updating your config.xml
[21:57:51] sphery: and such
[21:58:00] sphery: since mythbackend has no user interface, it doesn't
[21:58:13] duffrecords: I won't be able to run mythtv-setup because this is a headless server
[21:58:54] sphery: (technically, it has an interactive shell-based interface if started interactively--and I'll bet that it was just sitting there waiting on you to tell it what to do because your distro started it up without the --daemon switch)
[21:59:11] sphery: but it shouldn't be started interactively unless you're there, er, interacting
[21:59:24] sphery: duffrecords: that's what ssh -Y is for
[21:59:37] sphery: use X forwarding to display it on a system with a head
[22:00:06] duffrecords: oh, ok. I have a few of those
[22:00:08] sphery: and, really, since mythfrontend is, by definition, never run on a headless system, you could just run mythtv-setup on the mythfrontend system
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[22:09:22] duffrecords: thanks for the tip about ssh -Y. I wasn't aware of that until now
[22:09:39] sphery: yeah, makes managing mythtv much easier
[22:09:57] sphery: I have 2 headless backends, and I easily run mythtv-setup on them whenever necessary using ssh -Y
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