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Wednesday, April 24th, 2013, 00:13 UTC

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bray90820:

sphery: i just tried it and can not connect to the official frontend on another machine

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bray90820:

wagnerrp: you said about 14 hours ago something about the errors in my logs

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bobp127001:

Hey guys. I'm just wondering if Firewire channel change + HD-PVR is a tested and working method of content capture?

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bobp127001:

Probably on a motorola dct-6200

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bobp127001:

Would like to avoid the blaster if possible

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bray90820:

sphery: you around?

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wagnerrp:

it was a comment on using XBMC, and XBMC's generally poor practices with regards to communicating with MythTV

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wagnerrp:

bobp127001: what cable provider?

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wagnerrp:

you're masked, so whois won't tell me

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bobp127001:

wagnerrp: Shaw cable in BC

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wagnerrp:

ah, shaw...

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bobp127001:

uh oh

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wagnerrp:

there's no real standard for anything in canada

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bobp127001:

I know they aren't exactly 5C lenient, but that's why I was hoping the HD-PVR would work

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wagnerrp:

in the US, the FCC formerly mandated firewire accessibility

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wagnerrp:

canada never has such rulings

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bray90820:

wagnerrp: can you help me figure out why i can't connect to any mythtv front ends that are not local

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bobp127001:

are you living in the great white north as well wagnerrp?

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wagnerrp:

if you can get firewire working, then by all means do so, considering it's a whole lot easier and more reliable than fiddling with ir blasting

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wagnerrp:

nope, down here in the states

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bobp127001:

much more sane digital cable laws down there

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bobp127001:

too bad about the clearqam ruling

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wagnerrp:

if you can't, well it likely didn't cost anything but a bit of time, and you can always fall back to ir blasting

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wagnerrp:

note that mythtv does have a special 'Internal' channel changer that will use the built in firewire support to change channels on a box

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bobp127001:

i figure firewire channel changing won't be disabled, i mean that would be insane

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wagnerrp:

but i have no idea how to set it up

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wagnerrp:

i wouldn't be surprised

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bobp127001:

esp. on those moto boxes that are super standardized across NA providers

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wagnerrp:

it may very well be entirely disabled

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wagnerrp:

i know we have one canadian dev that uses firewire to capture, or at least did at one time

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** wagnerrp pings GreyFoxx **

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bobp127001:

i'm relying on this being accurate: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showpost.php? . . . ostcount=107

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wagnerrp:

not sure who he uses though

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wagnerrp:

bray90820: are these mythfrontends?

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bobp127001:

i'm currently OTA + netflix + itunes, and i'd like to move to digi cable. but that's not gonna happen with a provider STB

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bray90820:

yes they are

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wagnerrp:

then i need to see frontend logs

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bray90820:

i don't think it's the front end which is causing the problem

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wagnerrp:

then i need to see backend logs

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bray90820:

i think the backend is restricting access due to some socket errors

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bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=grQQPPmt

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wagnerrp:

all i see there is a frontend successfully going nuts pulling down files

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wagnerrp:

likely artwork for recordings

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bray90820:

hum

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wagnerrp:

your backend is reporting a damaged recording

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bray90820:

that's odd

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bray90820:

why would i to that

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wagnerrp:

it usually means it lost data due to poor reception

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bray90820:

wait what was the date of the bad recording

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wagnerrp:

this morning, 2am

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bray90820:

that is utc

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bray90820:

is it utc

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tgm4883:

wagnerrp, why are you bullying people?

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adam__:

hi all

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bray90820:

hi

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bray90820:

wagnerrp: What time zone is it

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adam__:

I'm trying to build mythnetvision from source, and I cant figure out which dependency I'm missing

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devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: what the hell did you do?

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wagnerrp:

?

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devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: see mythtv-users.

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devinheitmueller:

[mythtv-users] harassment and bullying from raymondatwagnerrp

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tgm4883:

wagnerrp, this is why we can't have nice things

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wagnerrp:

he asked a question, i answered

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wagnerrp:

then he asks the same exact question a week later

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wagnerrp:

i told him my answer was still the correct one, and asking again wouldn't change that fact

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devinheitmueller:

Oh, the guy with the kworld stick?

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wagnerrp:

yeah, wanting to use it, with mythtv, on osx

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wagnerrp:

http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /348885.html

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wagnerrp:

http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /348963.html

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wagnerrp:

"[19:18] <wagnerrp> has anything good ever come from AOL?"

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bray90820:

wagnerrp: what time zone was my recording in

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wagnerrp:

bray90820: looks like EST (GMT-5)

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wagnerrp:

tgm4883: is he maybe talking about something on your forum? i don't recall ever seeing anything from him on mythtvtalk

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bray90820:

hum that would mean it as 3AM for me

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bray90820:

i recorded nothing at that time

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wagnerrp:

logs report 2:20AM local time

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bray90820:

my local time is central

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wagnerrp:

ah... CDT then (still GMT-5)

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wagnerrp:

lousy daylight savings time...

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bray90820:

well ether way i recorded nothing at that time

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bray90820:

so i have no idea what that was

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bray90820:

this is also in my logs which leads me to believe it is a socket issue

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bray90820:

Apr 23 01:59:44 Server mythlogserver: mythbackend[5400]: C ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:1294 (HandleVersion) MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 75!

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wagnerrp:

E_XBMCUSER

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bray90820:

ok

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bray90820:

i will get new logs then

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wagnerrp:

mythtv will connect with only one protocol, and fail outright if it cannot

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wagnerrp:

xbmc will connect arbitrarily with protocol version 8, and then parrot back whatever it receives in response

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wagnerrp:

at least until i put a challenge/response mechanism into the protocol to explicitly stop that behavior

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bray90820:

wagnerrp: the port specified in sudo cat ~mythtv/.mythtv/config.xml is different then the one in the backend

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bray90820:

in the file it is 3306 but in the backend it is 6543

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bray90820:

but here are my new logs

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bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VzxsRXnC

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wagnerrp:

that's because that file tells mythtv where the database is

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wagnerrp:

and your database is on port 3306

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bray90820:

so are the different ports fine?

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wagnerrp:

they're not different ports, they're completely independent

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bray90820:

ok

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wagnerrp:

one tells mythtv where to access the database, the other is where mythtv itself is listening for its internal protocol communications

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bray90820:

ok

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wagnerrp:

tgm4883: the bullying continues... http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /348969.html

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bray90820:

wagnerrp: this is what happens when i try to connect to the official front-end

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bray90820:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/ . . . A55%3A34.png

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wagnerrp:

you're running an old version

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bray90820:

Ahh ok

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wagnerrp:

0.25 client, 0.26 backend

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bray90820:

i will update and see what happens

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adam__:

can anyone help me with this??

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adam__:

MythNetvision requires the MythTV Python bindings (MythTV)

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adam__:

Disabling MythNetvision due to missing dependencies.

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wagnerrp:

when you ran 'configure' to install core mythtv, it should have warned you about some things missing that caused it to disable the python bindings

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adam__:

python bindings are installed

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adam__:

im thinking its the dependencies

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wagnerrp:

it would have reported the dependencies were it the dependencies

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wagnerrp:

run 'python', and then 'import MythTV'

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adam__:

ImportError: No module named MythTV

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wagnerrp:

python shell should have reported the version when you started it, what version?

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adam__:

2.7.3

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wagnerrp:

do you still have the output from running 'configure' when you installed mythtv?

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adam__:

should, i'm not sure where it is

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wagnerrp:

run 'configure --previous', it will redo the same thing you did last time

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adam__:

# Bindings

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adam__:

bindings_perl yes

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adam__:

bindings_python yes

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adam__:

bindings_php yes

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wagnerrp:

odd

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wagnerrp:

are you using some custom prefix?

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adam__:

i used build-dep mythtv, and build-dep for the plugins

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wagnerrp:

are you defining '--prefix=something' when you configure?

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adam__:

im running linux mint 14

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adam__:

./configure --enable-proc-opt

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adam__:

was what I used

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wagnerrp:

i don't know what would be causing problems then...

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wagnerrp:

try going into mythtv/bindings/python, and running 'python setup.py install'

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wagnerrp:

as root

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wagnerrp:

and then try to 'import MythTV' again

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adam__:

ok, I'll be right back

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adam__:

ok, that worked

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wagnerrp:

you can import the module in python now?

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adam__:

thanks, I dunno what happened there, but the plugins are now compiling

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wagnerrp:

certainly odd

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bray90820_mobile:

Wagnerp playback worked fine on the other front end

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bray90820_mobile:

Wagnerrp

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wagnerrp:

other frontend, being...?

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bray90820_mobile:

The official one on another computer

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wagnerrp:

but a remote one? meaning that part of the backend is in fact working?

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bray90820_mobile:

The one i sent the picture about

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bray90820_mobile:

Then why all of the sudden is no computer with xbmc connect to the backend

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wagnerrp:

that would be a question for the xbmc folks

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bray90820_mobile:

Do you see anything in my logs that would point to an error

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wagnerrp:

not off hand

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bray90820_mobile:

Ok

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bray90820_mobile:

But what about that broken recording i never setup

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wagnerrp:

looked like some livetv session

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bray90820_mobile:

Ahh yes

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bray90820_mobile:

I restarted the computer then i think

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bray90820_mobile:

Could that be the cause

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wagnerrp:

only if your computer automatically starts recording when you turn it on

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sphery:

adam__: you do realize you have to install mythtv before you can compile mythplugins, right?

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sphery:

(and installing mythtv would have installed mythtv bindings, such as python bindings)

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wagnerrp:

presumably configure would have complained much sooner were it lacking the mythtv libraries

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bray90820_mobile:

Hum it does not

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wagnerrp:

viperecig? i could have sworn i banned that domain

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wagnerrp:

bah, forgot the '.com' at the end

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wagnerrp:

sphery: didn't you buy a graphics card recently?

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adam__:

I've been running a dvb scan thing for the last couple hours, so I'm pretty sure mythtv was installed first,

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wagnerrp:

'dvb-scan'? or mythtv's channel scanner in mythtv-setup?

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adam__:

dvb-scan

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wagnerrp:

that's from some independent dvb toolset

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wagnerrp:

not packaged with mythtv

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adam__:

i used mythtv's and it comes up with crap

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wagnerrp:

for ATSC television?

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wagnerrp:

usually the internal scanner does pretty well for that

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adam__:

it would work, but half the channels it found would give me crap.

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adam__:

ntsc

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wagnerrp:

no such thing

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wagnerrp:

unless you're talking analog cable

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wagnerrp:

in any case, dvb-scan is for digital tuners, not analog

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adam__:

yeah, I have just basic cable

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wagnerrp:

and analog cable users should be pulling a channel lineup from their schedules direct account

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adam__:

i dont have one

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is next to worthless without guide data

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wagnerrp:

and in north america, the mythtv, xmltv, and various other open source television communities set up schedules direct to license the data

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adam__:

yep, that was my problem, It would find 200+ channels, but no guide data, and half of em wouldn't work

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wagnerrp:

after abuse on the old zap2it service forced tribune to terminate it

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wagnerrp:

you only have 125 channels maximum on basic analog cable

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wagnerrp:

if you have 200+ channels, those are digital, and nearly all of them will be encrypted and unusable

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wagnerrp:

usually only the local broadcast channels will be retransmitted unencrypted, and that is likely to go away

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adam__:

so I'm following the pages http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DVB_search and http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Adding_Digital_Cab . . . SA/Canada%29

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adam__:

my tv with no box get 60 something channels, so I should get all of those right?

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wagnerrp:

depends on your tuner, depends on whether they're analog or digital

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wagnerrp:

when your tv picks up channels... give an example of one of the numbers

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adam__:

29

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wagnerrp:

29 is an analog channel

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wagnerrp:

a digital channel would be something like 29_1, or 29.1

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wagnerrp:

what tuner do you have?

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adam__:

Hauppauge 150 I think

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wagnerrp:

which would be an analog-only tuner, no digital capability

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wagnerrp:

those guides you were reading, and the dvb-scan utility, would be worthless

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adam__:

sorry, its a hvr-1250

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wagnerrp:

which last i checked did not support analog

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wagnerrp:

(under linux)

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wagnerrp:

that may have changed

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wagnerrp:

but it's a framegrabber, so you wouldn't really want to use it for analog anyway

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adam__:

it worked with regular tv, which is digital now, i dunno about analog

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wagnerrp:

digital tv, it works great

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wagnerrp:

i've had one in my backend for... five years?

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adam__:

the problem I was having was changing channels with live tv, it wouldn't change to some of the channels the scanner found, then segfault or quit

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wagnerrp:

it's supposed to work, but the frontend often has trouble during livetv if the backend fails to lock onto a channel

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wagnerrp:

the trouble with scanning digital cable is you're going to have a lot of encrypted channels that are completely unusable, and a lot more channels that are nothing more than an entry in the program table

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wagnerrp:

they don't actually carry any information

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wagnerrp:

or they're a placeholder for an on-demand channel that will only sometimes carry information

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sphery:

wagnerrp: no, haven't bought one, yet

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wagnerrp:

i've got my old desktop that i'm considering making an additional frontend

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wagnerrp:

or, i may just swap it out with the guts of my current dev box

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adam__:

yeah, thats why I'm using those 2 pages to narrow down the list to the ones I need

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wagnerrp:

but it's lacking a power supply and graphics card

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adam__:

Then I've got to figure out the program guide stuff

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sphery:

yeah, looking at my logs, it seems someone recommended the gt520

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sphery:

which I've seen on sale for cheap

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wagnerrp:

you'll need to manually align your channels to the XMLTV IDs on the schedules direct website

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sphery:

adam__: guide is easy for North American users--just go to http://www.schedulesdirect.com/ and sign up

[03:12:20]

sphery:

it's the best $25/yr I spend

[03:12:23]

wagnerrp:

do understand that with that card, you're likely to only get the local broadcast channels

[03:12:30]

wagnerrp:

not the 60+ analog channels your TV receives

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adam__:

dont have the cash to do that sphery

[03:13:25]

adam__:

I can get discovery channel, thats not a analog channel

[03:13:37]

sphery:

don't have the cash for $25/yr = ~ $2/mo = ~ $0.07/day ?

[03:13:49]

sphery:

but you have the cash for a cable subscription

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wagnerrp:

then your time warner is far more lax than most

[03:14:14]

wagnerrp:

time warner is notoriously strict for their content protection

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sphery:

if that's the case, you're probably better off using a cable-co provided DVR than a high-end, luxury DVR like MythTV

[03:14:53]

adam__:

cable came with my apartment :)

[03:15:12]

sphery:

and you don't get a DVR with it?

[03:15:57]

sphery:

anyway, I'm just trying to say that MythTV is Free, but it's pretty expensive

[03:16:26]

kormoc:

If you don't have $25/year to spend on something, you likely should re-think some life decisions...

[03:16:28]

wagnerrp:

is this actually time warner? or some local cable redistributer?

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adam__:

I'll pay for the guide when I can,

[03:16:46]

adam__:

Time Warner

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wagnerrp:

i saw you were connected through road runner, so i assumed it was time warner cable

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[R]:

sphery: you sound like that sally struthers commerical for the poor kids in africa

[03:17:28]

[R]:

only 7 cents a day

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sphery:

well, you will almost definitely be unable to get any kind of guide data via EIT (cable companies have no incentive to provide guide data in standard formats when they can "encourage" use of their equipment by providing guide data in some company-specific way that their equipment understands)

[03:17:45]

wagnerrp:

to feed sally struthers?

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[R]:

lol

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sphery:

and since Schedules Direct is the only legal source of listings data available in the US other than EIT

[03:18:23]

adam__:

actually some of the EIT data came through, only about 2 channels though, lmao

[03:18:24]

sphery:

you're setting up a glorified VCR

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wagnerrp:

you will get EIT data from the retransmitted local channels

[03:18:51]

wagnerrp:

but broadcast channels typically only provide the FCC mandated minimum of 12 hours

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sphery:

where you'll have to manually program it to record from 8–9 on Tuesday and call it NCIS or whatever

[03:19:28]

adam__:

thats fine for right now

[03:19:52]

adam__:

I'll look up the TV Guide and find out whats on...

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[R]:

woah, did i hop in a time machine and am i back in 1980?

[03:21:04]

[R]:

do they still print tv guide?

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wagnerrp:

they even have a tv guide channel

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wagnerrp:

of course it no longer actually provides EPG data

[03:21:35]

wagnerrp:

just reruns of old tv series

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adam__:

http://www.tvguide.com/

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[R]:

they used to have curb your enthusiasm on there

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sphery:

[R]: hehe, just saw your comment

[03:24:28]

sphery:

(about the 7c/day)

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[R]:

lol

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** wagnerrp waits in anticipation of a response... http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /348969.html **

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sphery:

wagnerrp: hehe, yeah

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bray90820:

Anyone wanna look at my logs and tell me what is going on with my sockets

[04:47:54]

bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WQiLzPJJ

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[R]:

if xbmc isn't working

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[R]:

you should talk to the xbmc people

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bray90820:

there might be other stuff going on other then socket errors

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bray90820:

oh oops

[04:49:16]

bray90820:

sorry

[04:49:24]

bray90820:

i thought i was in the XBMC channel

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bray90820:

[R]: altho it is having problems connecting to mythtv

[04:50:37]

[R]:

does mythfrontend work?

[04:51:42]

bray90820:

myth front end works yes but i think it's a backend problem

[04:52:27]

[R]:

if mythfrotnend works

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[R]:

theres nothing worng with the backend

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bray90820:

here are my backend logs

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bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=grQQPPmt

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[R]:

if xbmc is doing stupid thigns

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[R]:

you should talk to the xbmc people

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bray90820:

but it is having problems connecting on more then one computer

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bray90820:

every install of xbmc

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[R]:

[09:49:05] [R] if xbmc isn't working

[04:55:20]

[R]:

[09:49:09] [R] you should talk to the xbmc people

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bray90820:

they are telling me my mythtv recorder is busy

[04:57:46]

bray90820:

and it's not an xbmc error

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[R]:

well if you have problems using mythfrontend let me know

[04:59:03]

bray90820:

but the back end is having the problem

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bray90820:

backend

[05:10:00]

bray90820:

[R]: here are my front-end logs

[05:10:01]

bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MD6YRNgF

[05:10:06]

bray90820:

there are some errors in there

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[R]:

i dont see any errors

[05:11:22]

bray90820:

Apr 24 00:00:19 aaron-Inspiron-1090 mythlogserver: mythfrontend[10472]: E CoreContext lirc.cpp:208 (Init) LIRC: Failed to connect to Unix socket '/var/run/lirc/lircd'#012#011#011#011eno: No such file or directory (2)

[05:11:40]

[R]:

sounds like you dont have lirc set up

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bray90820:

?

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[R]:

i.e. not an error

[05:12:26]

bray90820:

Apr 24 00:00:19 aaron-Inspiron-1090 mythlogserver: mythfrontend[10472]: E CoreContext cecadapter.cpp:128 (Open) CECAdapter: Failed to load libcec.

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[R]:

sounds like you dont have libcec

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[R]:

i.e. not an error

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bray90820:

Apr 24 00:00:19 aaron-Inspiron-1090 mythlogserver: mythfrontend[10472]: E CoreContext jsmenu.cpp:91 (Init) JoystickMenuThread: Joystick disabled – Failed to read /home/aaron/.mythtv/joystickmenurc

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bray90820:

Apr 24 00:00:18 aaron-Inspiron-1090 mythlogserver: mythfrontend[10472]: E CoreContext AirPlay/mythraopconnection.cpp:1405 (LoadKey) RAOP Conn: Failed to read key from: /home/aaron/.mythtv/RAOPKey.rsa

[05:13:30]

bray90820:

Apr 24 00:00:18 aaron-Inspiron-1090 mythlogserver: mythfrontend[10472]: E CoreContext bonjourregister.cpp:68 (Register) Bonjour: Failed to register service.

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[R]:

must you flood the channel?

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bray90820:

i am just sending the errors because you are saying there are none

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[R]:

none of those are errors

[05:14:42]

bray90820:

the word error is right there

[05:14:48]

** [R] gives up **

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bray90820:

this one should be a real error

[05:15:27]

bray90820:

Apr 24 00:00:17 aaron-Inspiron-1090 mythlogserver: mythfrontend[10472]: I thread_unknown signalhandling.cpp:194 (SetHandlerPrivate) Setup Bus error handler

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bray90820:

Anyone else around to help me

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ServerSage:

bray90820: You need to actually go through the setup of lirc.

[05:28:32]

ServerSage:

bray90820: From the looks of your spam above, you have it installed but don't have it configured properly. You're also missing the libcec library.

[05:29:15]

bray90820:

ServerSage: is libcec needed for mythtv to work properly

[05:29:56]

ServerSage:

bray90820: If you want to use CEC, yes. You posted the error, not me.

[05:30:06]

bray90820:

what is cec

[05:30:34]

ServerSage:

bray90820: Google it.

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bray90820:

that is not what i want

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Not trying to be a douche, but some research on your part is expected.

[05:31:24]

bray90820:

well i am just kinda at a loss here

[05:31:52]

bray90820:

i am having what clearly is a Mythtv error but people in here keep sending me back to the xbmc channel

[05:31:54]

ServerSage:

bray90820: what was the original question? I wasn't at my computer, and my queue doesn't go back that far.

[05:32:23]

bray90820:

i can't connect mythtv to xbmc

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bray90820:

any xbmc on any computer i try

[05:32:43]

ServerSage:

bray90820: Does mythfrontend work?

[05:32:56]

bray90820:

it's a backend issue

[05:33:17]

bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=grQQPPmt

[05:33:20]

ServerSage:

bray90820: Ok...does mythfrontend work?

[05:33:27]

bray90820:

why should that matter

[05:33:38]

bray90820:

that link is my backend logs by the way

[05:35:30]

ServerSage:

bray90820: Sigh...This isn't the XBMC support channel. It's the mythtv support channel. You'll get help with mythtv, not xbmc.

[05:35:47]

bray90820:

i am not looking for help with xbmc

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ServerSage:

bray90820: What is your backend doing/not doing? I'm not going to dig through your log file right now, I'm at work.

[05:36:59]

bray90820:

i am not trying to be mean at all but if i tell you my error you are just going to send me back to xbmc again when mythtv is clearly the culprit

[05:37:23]

ServerSage:

bray90820: I asked what the original question was. You told me it was getting XBMC to work with the backend.

[05:37:48]

ServerSage:

bray90820: So, what is the backend doing/not doing?

[05:38:16]

bray90820:

well the backend has some error in it which is preventing me to connect to some front ends

[05:38:34]

bray90820:

the xbmc channel told me that it was because my mythtv recorder is busy

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ServerSage:

bray90820: So some frontends work?

[05:38:51]

bray90820:

yes

[05:39:02]

ServerSage:

bray90820: Are those frontends xbmc or mythfrontend?

[05:39:14]

bray90820:

lets just say this

[05:39:18]

bray90820:

it's not an xbmc error

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ServerSage:

bray90820: For christ's sake, just answer the question.

[05:39:35]

bray90820:

ok

[05:39:40]

bray90820:

mythfrontend works

[05:39:42]

bray90820:

xbmc does not

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bray90820:

now i bet you want me to ask in xbmc right

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ServerSage:

bray90820: What are you using within xbmc to connect?

[05:40:07]

bray90820:

cmyth

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Stop making assumptions, just makes an ass out of you...and umption. If you run xbmc from the command line do you get any output from it that might point to the problem?

[05:41:07]

bray90820:

i am not making assumptions

[05:41:19]

bray90820:

even the xbmc channel is telling me it's a mythtv error

[05:42:07]

bray90820:

it was working and then suddenly stopped and so i went to another computer installed xbmc on that and it did not work so i tried it on my android tablet and it did not work

[05:42:15]

ServerSage:

bray90820: "now i bet you want me to ask in xbmc right" that is an assumption. I don't care what the xbmc channel is telling you. I'm not the xbmc channel. Either you can work with me, or I can go back to ignoring you. Sheesh.

[05:42:23]

ServerSage:

bray90820: No updates done recently that might break it?

[05:43:17]

bray90820:

i do apologize i am truly not trying to be mean i am just a bit on edge because for the past 3 days everyone in here has asked me teh same question and then said go to xbmc

[05:43:27]

bray90820:

it seems as if no install of xbmc will work

[05:43:37]

bray90820:

meaning something in my backend is stopping it

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Is this when trying to watch live tv? Or a recording? Looks like livetv in the log file.

[05:44:50]

bray90820:

it's just trying to connect mythtv to the backend

[05:45:00]

bray90820:

no

[05:45:15]

bray90820:

it's trying to connect mythtv to xbmc

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bray90820:

xbmc says "failed to connect to the mythtv database"

[05:46:43]

bray90820:

altho the previous working install of xbmc does sorta work

[05:47:09]

bray90820:

it loads the live tv but then whenever i try to exit the live tv or view any guide info it hangs

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ServerSage:

bray90820: What version of mythtv do you have installed on the backend?

[05:47:23]

bray90820:

and i have to manually shutdown the computer

[05:47:25]

bray90820:

0.26

[05:47:46]

bray90820:

i do REALLY appreciate the help

[05:48:06]

ServerSage:

bray90820: What time was the xbmc connect attempt? This is too much log to dig through while working.

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adam__:

that would tell me that xbmc doesnt have the right port/username/password or if its the backend you have it setup to only connect from localhost

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bray90820:

the half working one or the not working one

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ServerSage:

adam__: Was my first thought, but he indicated mythfrontend was working from remote systems.

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ServerSage:

bray90820: both

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bray90820:

hum

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bray90820:

let me check

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Have you verified the portion of the backend setup that adam__ referenced?

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adam__:

can you connect to mysql with the frontend with mysql on the command line?

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bray90820:

i have checked that over and over again

[05:50:15]

bray90820:

that's the first thing i thought of

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bray90820:

ServerSage: should i just try to connect to the front ends again

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bray90820:

and send you new logs

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adam__:

is it an ipv6/ipv4 issue?

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Sure, but you should try what adam__ just suggested too. From one of the frontends trying connecting to the backend using mysql.

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[R]:

just starting the frotnend does that

[05:52:15]

[R]:

the frontend works

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bray90820:

adam__: how woudl i do that

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[R]:

nothign wrong with mysql

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bray90820:

adam__: how would i do the mysql thing you were suggesting

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adam__:

mysql ipaddress -u username -p password

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bray90820:

from the terminal?

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adam__:

yep

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bray90820:

ok

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bray90820:

would teh mysql ip address be the ip address of the mythtv backend

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adam__:

yep

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bray90820:

is the username the database username

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adam__:

yep

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bray90820:

i got an error

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bray90820:

Unknown suffix 'e' used for variable 'port' (value '5eNhiJw1')

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bray90820:

mysql: Error while setting value '5eNhiJw1' to 'port'

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bray90820:

wait

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bray90820:

let me send that in a pastebin with more info

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Did you use -p or -P?

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bray90820:

ahh that's why

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bray90820:

i used P

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ServerSage:

bray90820: If you use a capital P it's port, lower case p is password.

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bray90820:

-P

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bray90820:

ok

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ServerSage:

bray90820: The more eye friendly way is mysql --host=ipaddress --user=username --password=password mythconverg

[06:01:52]

bray90820:

i got a BUNCH of stuff when i used lowerase letters

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bray90820:

should i pastebin it

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adam__:

yeah, but I was just trying to see if he could connect

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ServerSage:

bray90820: What was the very last line of output?

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adam__:

does it say mysql> at the bottom?

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bray90820:

it does not

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bray90820:

wait did you want me to do this on my backend computer

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adam__:

then it did't connect

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adam__:

no, you have to be able to do it from the frontend

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ServerSage:

adam__: It won't, the mythtv user (which I assume he is using) doesn't have access to the default mysql database. He would need to connect to the mythconverg database, which is what I suggested above.

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bray90820:

then i did not connect

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bray90820:

so what should i do now

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adam__:

oh, yeah duh...

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Run the mysql I suggested above. Replacing the needed stuff.

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ServerSage:

bray90820: mysql --host=ipaddress --user=username --password=password mythconverg

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bray90820:

yes the last line is mysql

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ServerSage:

bray90820: So, as [R] said earlier, mysql is fine. :) Now we know 100% for sure.

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adam__:

ok, the only other thing i can think of is ipv4/ipv6

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bray90820:

i still need to send the new logs

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adam__:

if you are trying to connect ipv6, and mysql is set to only listen ipv4 it will mess up

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bray90820:

i am using IPV4

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ServerSage:

adam__: Wouldn't it have failed when using mysql on the command line?

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adam__:

nope ServerSage, the IP addres 192.168.11.11 or whatever is ipv4 only, will alway work

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ServerSage:

adam__: Which is what the frontend is setup to use...

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ServerSage:

adam__: Or cmyth rather.

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adam__:

i dont know xmbc so i dunno

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bray90820:

wait where did you get 192.168.11.11 from

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ServerSage:

bray90820: He was just giving an example IP.

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adam__:

it was just a random ipv4 string

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bray90820:

oh ok

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ServerSage:

bray90820: I'm a bit stumped to be honest. If mythfrontend works from a machine, there is no reason cmyth/xbmc shouldn't work.

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bray90820:

i will send the longs

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bray90820:

hang on

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adam__:

i just know mythtv will you both, and if mysql isnt setup right it wont connect

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adam__:

will use both*

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ServerSage:

adam__: To be honest, I've not played with myth in a mixed ipv4/ipv6 environment.

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adam__:

if you have mythtv to try on both, but mysql to only listen on ipv4, mythtv wont connect

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adam__:

but I cant be 100% on anything I say, because I'm just learning mythtv myself

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bray90820:

here are my new logs

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bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aCK4YP3t

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[R]:

Apr 24 01:07:52 Server mythlogserver: mythbackend[26765]: C ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:1294 (HandleVersion) MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 75!

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[R]:

stop using broken crap

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Looks like your version of cmyth and your version of the backend don't like each other. Your frontend is talking v8, your backend is v75.

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bray90820:

how could i fix that

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Upgrade to a newer version of cmyth.

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ServerSage:

bray90820: You must have upgraded your backend recently, and that is what broke your setup.

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bray90820:

because it seems like all xbmc front ends do not work

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bray90820:

i did not upgrade my backend

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bray90820:

i have no idea how it got broken

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ServerSage:

bray90820: All your xbmc systems won't work if they are using the same version of cmyth.

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ServerSage:

bray90820: They are trying to talk to the backend with an OLD version of the API. The backend won't allow it.

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bray90820:

and it is the latest version i think

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bray90820:

i just installed xbmc on monday and it didn't work

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Dunno what to tell you, but I can say emphatically that this is NOT a mythbackend problem.

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bray90820:

ok

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bray90820:

Thank you for actually taking the time insted of saying does mythfrontend work "yes" then ask the xbmc people

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ServerSage:

bray90820: You might want to post something in the cmyth forums.

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ServerSage:

bray90820: To be honest, if mythfrontend works, it's not a myth problem. I just took you on the journey to prove it.

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bray90820:

thank you

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ServerSage:

bray90820: No problem, good luck. I've never had a good experience with xbmc and mythtv, hope your luck is better than mine.

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bray90820:

it has worked for me until this error

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bray90820:

is there a supported front end for windows

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ServerSage:

bray90820: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Windows

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bray90820:

thank you

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ServerSage:

bray90820: np. But really, why not run linux? hehe.

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bray90820:

because i use another app that only runes well on windows

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bray90820:

and netflix

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bray90820:

And because one of my computers/tablets has a clover trail processor

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adam__:

try to change the quick tuning setting in mythtv-setup to Live Tv only

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Just giving you a hard time. :)

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bray90820:

:P

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bray90820:

i know

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adam__:

its in the Input connections

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bray90820:

adam__: are you talking to me

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adam__:

yep

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bray90820:

What are you telling me to do?

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adam__:

backend, mythtv-setup change Input connections setting for quick tuning to Live Tv only

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bray90820:

what would that do

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adam__:

its just a guess, but it might work

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bray90820:

What would it do tho

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ServerSage:

bray90820: Try it, can't hurt. You can always change it back.

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adam__:

im not really sure to tell the truth,

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adam__:

FileRingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv/livetv/1712_20130424060752.mpg): OpenFile(): File too small

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adam__:

was one of your errors, and that fixed it for me

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bray90820:

did not work

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adam__:

damn, was hoping

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bray90820:

:P

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adam__:

I'll try to install xmbc tomorrow and see what its like

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bray90820:

thank you

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bray90820:

i never expected that

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adam__:

well, I'm trying to help, but havn't used xmbc, so it would help if I've used it too

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bray90820:

thank you

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bray90820:

i guess i could change the mythtv socket

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adam__:

that should be fine

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bray90820:

i could change it to match xbmc

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adam__:

i dunno much about sockets, i dont know if that would work

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bray90820:

i shouldn't then

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adam__:

well, i gotta sleep l8r

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bray90820:

I FIXED IT

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bray90820:

it was a mysql error

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bray90820:

apparently the bind-address in my.cnf was set to the loopback

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bray90820:

instead of my backend ip

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lapion:

sphery, I am using ext4fs so thats not the problem.

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rhpot1991:

should the IMDB lookup button in the videos section of mythweb work?

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rhpot1991:

gives me the green ajax pending and then nothing else

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bray90820:

ServerSage: so i fixed my problem it turned out that teh IP Address in my.cnf is set to the loopback instead of my real IP address

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wagnerrp:

loopback is a real ip address, just one not routeable from the network

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comingatyoubro:

i update schedules direct about an hour ago, but when running mythtv config it's still pulling the old listing, even though i deleted them

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