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Saturday, March 23rd, 2013, 00:07 UTC
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[00:27:03] RagingMind: what's the default recording volume for ivtv profiles?
[00:28:32] wagnerrp: do ivtv tuners actually support volume control?
[00:30:08] RagingMind: yeah, I had to turn it up for my pvr250
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[02:26:33] mattwj2002: hi guys
[02:26:48] mattwj2002: well I got my DTA boxes
[02:26:52] mattwj2002: wow talk about crap
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[03:18:35] wagnerrp: indeed
[03:20:24] mattwj2002: wagnerrp: there is no guide or even pay per view
[03:20:32] wagnerrp: nope
[03:20:37] mattwj2002: they are the most basic cable box I have ever seen
[03:21:00] wagnerrp: all the more to get you to shell out for monthly rental
[03:21:00] mattwj2002: all they have is an analog out too :(
[03:21:16] mattwj2002: indeed
[03:24:18] mattwj2002: I probably could record stuff of an old analog card
[03:24:19] mattwj2002: haha
[03:24:24] mattwj2002: *off an
[03:25:45] mattwj2002: :P
[03:26:35] mattwj2002: wagnerrp: did you end up getting a DTA?
[03:26:46] wagnerrp: i had several of them
[03:27:11] mattwj2002: had? now what are you using?
[03:27:18] wagnerrp: antenna
[03:27:22] mattwj2002: ah
[03:27:53] mattwj2002: yeah I'll be definitely hooking up an antenna
[03:28:54] mattwj2002: I have Internet through my cable company so either I get basic cable or I pay an access fee
[03:29:07] mattwj2002: so I might as well have the basic it is about the same
[03:29:09] wagnerrp: who?
[03:29:13] mattwj2002: Comcast
[03:29:21] wagnerrp: get a cablecard tuner
[03:29:45] mattwj2002: that is a good idea
[03:30:10] mattwj2002: I actually have one.....I just don't have a cable card for it
[03:30:26] mattwj2002: until this switch over everything was available through clear QAM
[03:30:33] mattwj2002: for basic tv
[03:31:52] mattwj2002: damn FCC anyways :P
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[03:32:59] wagnerrp: yeah. i have no consolation for that one. it was simply an awful decision on the FCC's part
[03:33:33] wagnerrp: at least when the firewire mandate was removed, it was because cablecard had finally (after several years of waiting) become a viable option
[03:33:57] mattwj2002: that makes sense
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[03:34:12] mattwj2002: so I have a question with the cable cards and Time Warner
[03:34:17] wagnerrp: but this one... was just pointless garbage
[03:34:24] mattwj2002: TVs with cable cards need a box now?
[03:34:25] wagnerrp: cablecards and time warner, also pointless garbage
[03:34:27] mattwj2002: that is stupid
[03:34:57] wagnerrp: are you talking about switched video?
[03:35:13] wagnerrp: yeah. that's time warner's solution to being cheap and having too large of broadcast domains
[03:35:26] wagnerrp: switched video lets them allocate more spectrum to phone and internet use
[03:35:34] mattwj2002: I am talking about how you can't get anything through a time warner cable and a cable card
[03:35:51] mattwj2002: I guess
[03:36:15] wagnerrp: any licensed cablecard software and hardware can access time warner cable
[03:36:21] wagnerrp: the trouble is that mythtv is not licensed
[03:36:30] mattwj2002: oh
[03:36:33] mattwj2002: I didn't know that
[03:36:36] wagnerrp: as no open source software can ever be licensed by any DRM authority
[03:36:42] wagnerrp: the two simply don't mesh
[03:37:09] wagnerrp: the end result is that cablecard tuners are thus only authorized to let us access 'copy freely', or DRM-free, content
[03:37:17] mattwj2002: got ya
[03:37:18] wagnerrp: time warner marks everything as DRM protected
[03:37:39] mattwj2002: now that is just stupid
[03:37:45] wagnerrp: and since no open source software can ever uphold DRM, mythtv doesn't get to play
[03:38:21] mattwj2002: it makes sense why it doesn't work
[03:38:24] mattwj2002: just sucks :)
[03:38:55] wagnerrp: that's a fact that is all the more troubling with the recent push to get a DRM mechanism into the HTML standard
[03:39:20] wagnerrp: it would effectively cut open source out of a large chunk of the internet
[03:39:21] mattwj2002: what in HTML?
[03:39:35] mattwj2002: O.o
[03:39:59] wagnerrp: http://www.webmonkey.com/2013/02/drm-for-the-web-say-it-aint-so/
[03:41:31] wagnerrp: right now, we can only use DRM through flash, because adobe is clueless and their DRM implementation is wide open
[03:41:41] mattwj2002: is that because of the video support in HTML4?
[03:41:45] mattwj2002: HTML5?
[03:42:20] wagnerrp: in order to securely implement DRM in a web browser, you would need closed binaries for your browser, any video plugins, your kernel, your graphics interface, and your graphics drivers
[03:42:41] mattwj2002: O.o
[03:42:49] wagnerrp: which means... no more linux, no more x11, no more firefox or chromium
[03:43:01] mattwj2002: :(
[03:43:05] mattwj2002: bastards
[03:43:49] wagnerrp: people accept DRM as a "necessary evil", because they don't actually understand the full scope of what it demands
[03:44:35] mattwj2002: yeah that is craziness
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[07:58:05] BabThooka: Hello! My MythTV video manager isn't showing the cover art of movies. I have all my local folders in order, and I've followed several how-go's. Is there a bug or something? Should this be working with no problems?
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[12:51:35] hR13: Hi
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[12:53:10] hR13: does anyone has a Mele F10 remote working properly with mythfrontend, I only get some of the remotecontrole side of the remote to work. IE the back button dont work ..
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[13:47:41] wagnerrp: hR13,
[13:47:56] wagnerrp: you have to get it working with lirc first, before you can try getting it to work with mythtv
[13:49:38] hR13: wagnerrp, ok. thanks for the info
[13:49:41] hR13: :-)
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[19:43:22] jarle: After having set up me new backend and restored the backup db mythbackend is not able to connect. I have no problem connecting and reading the db manually as the same user. Any help debugging? I have set the mysql grants that I found on the wiki...
[19:44:16] jarle: maybe I should check if mysql is not running on the default port for some reason??
[19:45:04] clever: jarle: check the mysql config in mythtv-setup
[19:45:36] jarle: clever: that was the first thing I checked, it was "correct"
[19:47:16] clever: what error is mythbackend giving, exactly?
[19:47:33] clever: brb
[19:48:19] jarle: I'm thinking the problem is the default bind-address=127.0.0.1 in mysql config. Will fix it... and retry
[19:48:55] jarle: the error for mythbackend is "Unable to init db connection." and "MSqlDatabase::OpenDatabase(), db object is not valid!"
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[19:55:10] jarle: commenting out bind-address=127.0.0.1 in my.cnf did not seem to help...
[19:56:00] clever: jarle: did you install the qt mysql driver?
[19:56:41] jarle: clever: I just compiled mythtv from source, do I need to install qt mysql driver?
[19:58:07] clever: yes
[19:58:34] jarle: I'm on ubuntu, what package are we talking about?
[19:59:09] jarle: libqt4-sql-mysql probably?
[20:00:18] clever: yeah
[20:01:14] jarle: clever: that did the trick, now I just need to fix the missing MySQL time zone support
[20:02:16] jarle: clever: I did install mythtv builddep packages so I would think this package should be included...
[20:04:18] clever: sounds like a bug in the package deps
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[20:04:32] jarle: clever: would think so...
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