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| [00:02:33] | natanojl: | skd5aner: dmfrey I believe |
| [00:02:50] | skd5aner: | thanks |
| [00:04:24] | natanojl: | np |
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| [02:15:22] | Korny: | evening |
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| [13:50:16] | jarle: | skd5aner: You can also reach him on Google+ (Daniel Frey) |
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| [15:15:06] | DarkPhonix: | hi all, |
| [15:15:14] | DarkPhonix: | HDPVR (gaming edition) any knows inssues with nix? |
| [15:15:22] | DarkPhonix: | seems to crash my box every time i try dumping video0 |
| [15:22:50] | DarkPhonix: | no core dump no thing just a FREEZE |
| [15:58:09] | DarkPhonix: | ok im slot :( i have a hdpvr gaming edtion. the second i cat /dev/video the pc freezes.. no core dump, no kernel panic just FREEZE |
| [15:58:17] | DarkPhonix: | hooked it up to w winblows pc works fine |
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| [16:31:06] | GWG: | I'm trying to figure out a design for multiple backends. I haven't done that in a while, since I simplified my system 4 years ago. Anyone around who might let me bounce ideas off of them? |
| [16:41:32] | wagnerrp: | shoot |
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| [16:43:21] | dj_who: | hi, i have problem with mythmote integrated in android mythfrontend it is not showing my frontend |
| [16:43:49] | wagnerrp: | did you configure your frontend to listen on its control socket, and listen on a network accessible address? |
| [16:44:46] | GWG: | I'm in the planning stage |
| [16:44:51] | GWG: | The question is this. |
| [16:45:07] | GWG: | I am building a new system which will be on, which is low power |
| [16:45:24] | dj_who: | stand alone mythmote is working when configured pcaddr:6546 |
| [16:45:40] | GWG: | I'm wondering if I can set up a second system that would be woken up by the first one and do the transcoding as needed. |
| [16:45:53] | GWG: | Because the low-power system won't do that very fast |
| [16:46:36] | wagnerrp: | GWG: define "low power" |
| [16:46:46] | GWG: | AMD Fusion |
| [16:46:51] | wagnerrp: | because i have a "low power" frontend with a 3.3GHz dual core Ivy Bridge cpu |
| [16:46:51] | GWG: | Mini-ITX board |
| [16:46:57] | wagnerrp: | it idles at 25W |
| [16:47:03] | GWG: | This idles at much lower |
| [16:47:10] | wagnerrp: | probably not |
| [16:47:48] | wagnerrp: | figure at those low wattages, take whatever the system is going to pull, and then double it due to inefficiencies in the power supply |
| [16:48:18] | GWG: | The estimate is 20W |
| [16:48:45] | GWG: | There are other reasons I'm doing it. |
| [16:48:56] | wagnerrp: | so the difference between a crappy, low power 1.5GHz machine, and one with some real meat behind it, are about $5/yr in electrical costs |
| [16:49:01] | GWG: | I referring to low-power as in, less powerful processor. |
| [16:49:33] | wagnerrp: | there are really only two good reasons for running multiple backends |
| [16:49:50] | wagnerrp: | either (a) you want more hard drives or tuners than you can reasonably fit in one machine |
| [16:50:31] | wagnerrp: | or (b) you want to access an antenna or LNB and it's more convenient to place a remote backend near the line, than pull the line back to a single backend |
| [16:50:51] | wagnerrp: | nearly every other scenario is an example of overthinking the problem |
| [16:51:38] | dj_who: | wagnerrp can You maybe say why standalone mythmote is working? |
| [16:51:53] | GWG: | wagnerrp: The hard drive one. |
| [16:51:55] | wagnerrp: | i don't know what you mean by "standalone" mythmote |
| [16:52:10] | wagnerrp: | since it should only function in combination with some instance of mythfrontend |
| [16:52:20] | GWG: | But, as long as I'm doing that, the more powerful machine doesn't need to be spun up all the time. |
| [16:52:31] | wagnerrp: | GWG: in which case i would tell you to buy a proper motherboard, rather than an intentionally restrictive mini-itx one |
| [16:52:40] | dj_who: | on android you can install mythmote app (this work fine) |
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| [16:53:00] | wagnerrp: | hard drives can be spun down when idle, CPUs can be downclocked when idle |
| [16:53:08] | GWG: | Agreed. |
| [16:53:16] | GWG: | But the fan noise was hurting my sleeping |
| [16:53:21] | dj_who: | and an android mythfrontend with integrated mythmote (and this mythmote is not working) |
| [16:53:46] | wagnerrp: | i didn't realize mythmote functioned as a playback client |
| [16:53:53] | wagnerrp: | i' |
| [16:54:07] | GWG: | wagnerrp: Mythmote was superseded by Dan Frey's MythTV for Android. |
| [16:54:09] | wagnerrp: | m not sure if mythmote connects to the old control socket, or the new (http) services socket |
| [16:54:13] | GWG: | That does have playback capabilities |
| [16:54:22] | wagnerrp: | the old control socket needs to be manually enabled |
| [16:54:29] | wagnerrp: | the new services socket will always be enabled |
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| [16:54:44] | wagnerrp: | and in either case, that machine profile needs to be configured to listen on a network accessible address in mythtv-setup |
| [16:55:06] | wagnerrp: | or, those options in mythtv-setup need to be left blank so mythfrontend can auto-select the addresses it wants to listen on |
| [16:55:42] | wagnerrp: | GWG: another problem with going for compact systems... |
| [16:55:55] | wagnerrp: | a small system means you have little room available for large, slow, quiet fans |
| [16:56:01] | wagnerrp: | and large, efficient heatsinks |
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| [16:57:08] | dj_who: | it's also importand i think than android mythfrontend is connecting with pc backend |
| [16:57:37] | wagnerrp: | is your frontend and backend on one machine or separate? |
| [16:57:45] | dj_who: | but also automatic backend detection is not working |
| [16:57:52] | dj_who: | yes |
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| [16:58:19] | wagnerrp: | that wasn't a yes or no question |
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| [16:59:03] | dj_who: | ;] yes both are on the same machine |
| [16:59:51] | wagnerrp: | then it's entirely possible you've configured mythtv on that machine to only listen on 127.0.0.1 |
| [17:00:00] | wagnerrp: | in which case UPNP (for autodetection) will be disabled |
| [17:00:09] | wagnerrp: | and mythtv will not be listening on an address mythmote can access |
| [17:00:12] | GWG: | wagnerrp: It isn't compact. It is the same size as a MicroATX case. It replaces the extra motherboard space with drive space. |
| [17:02:14] | dj_who: | i think all addreses are not the loopback |
| [17:03:22] | dj_who: | standalone mythmote connected to 192.168.1.2:6546 is working fine |
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| [17:03:32] | dj_who: | but icheck the upnp |
| [17:03:52] | wagnerrp: | then check your frontend and make sure the frontend control socket is enabled |
| [17:04:44] | wagnerrp: | wait... 6546 is the network control socket |
| [17:04:55] | wagnerrp: | meaning mythmote controlling an instance of mythfrontend |
| [17:05:01] | wagnerrp: | NOT in standalone mode |
| [17:05:17] | wagnerrp: | in standalone mode, it will be connecting to the backend either on port 6543 or 6544 |
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| [17:07:54] | dj_who: | i dont get it |
| [17:08:24] | wagnerrp: | there's two modes... standalone mode where the application behaves itself like a frontend, connecting to the backend directly |
| [17:08:34] | wagnerrp: | and remote mode, where it allows remote control over another frontend |
| [17:08:47] | wagnerrp: | in standalone mode, it should either be connected to port 6543 or 6544 |
| [17:08:48] | dj_who: | on backend setup i have listening on 192.168.1.2:6543 and 6544 |
| [17:08:59] | wagnerrp: | in remote mode, it should either be connected to port 6546 or 6547 |
| [17:09:40] | wagnerrp: | 6543 is the backend protocol, 6544 is the backend services api, 6546 is the frontend control socket, 6547 is the frontend services api |
| [17:17:16] | dj_who: | so if standalone mythmote connects to 6546 and not standalone mythmote can' connect i assume that the autodetection of the NOT standalone mythmote(from android mythfrontend) detects only frontends on 6543 and 6544 ports |
| [17:18:37] | wagnerrp: | i'm guessing autodetection of both frontend and backend occurs over upnp |
| [17:18:52] | wagnerrp: | which should be active so long as mythtv is told to listen on the network, and not 127.0.0.1 |
| [17:19:18] | dj_who: | one more check (backend setup has hang) |
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| [17:21:40] | dj_who: | i i cant find upnp |
| [17:21:50] | dj_who: | in frontend settings now |
| [17:22:01] | wagnerrp: | there are no upnp options |
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| [17:23:41] | dj_who: | no where to set frontend addres to 192.... |
| [17:23:53] | wagnerrp: | that's in mythtv-setup |
| [17:23:56] | dj_who: | or check if it's checked |
| [17:23:57] | wagnerrp: | first section, first page |
| [17:24:19] | dj_who: | there is already setted up |
| [17:24:56] | dj_who: | as i said |
| [17:28:22] | dj_who: | hmm in myth buntu control center i have backend role : Secondary backend and think should be primary |
| [17:29:33] | dj_who: | maybe that's the problem |
| [17:31:50] | dj_who: | pc is listening on 6543 and 6547 ports |
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| [17:45:07] | Lomion0815: | Whenever I seek in the editor h.264-HD the picture is strangly scrambled. Have there been any h.264 or i-frames changes recently? |
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| [18:07:42] | pyrodex: | trying to get some help with mythweb... I am using mythbuntu repos and running 0.26+fixes but when I try the default mythweb config that comes with localhost/mythweb isn't working |
| [18:08:41] | pyrodex: | right now I am getting forbidden |
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| [18:29:26] | Swipular: | I've looked but could not find an answer to this.. When I try and transcode I get and error "Unable to open FFMPEG/mpeg4 codec" but mythffmpeg has the mpeg4 codec so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. |
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| [18:34:02] | Swipular: | anyone awake? |
| [18:34:36] | wagnerrp: | where did you see this error? |
| [18:35:11] | Swipular: | In the log file -> /var/log/mythtv/mythtranscode.log |
| [18:35:45] | Swipular: | Thanks for responding btw |
| [18:35:56] | wagnerrp: | can i see the log file? |
| [18:36:45] | Swipular: | sure one sec |
| [18:38:08] | Swipular: | here it is http://pastebin.com/5pfpVQiW |
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| [18:43:25] | Swipular: | I checked mythffmpeg and it does have mpeg4. There is no other version of ffmpeg installed so I'm not sure where that error is coming from. |
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| [18:44:36] | wagnerrp: | just so you know, this is going to try to transcode to MPEG4 ASP (divx), which is probably not what you want |
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| [18:46:02] | Swipular: | I'm using the mpeg2 autodetext profile. Should I be using something else? |
| [18:46:18] | wagnerrp: | what are you wanting to do? |
| [18:46:47] | pyrodex: | Anyone able to help me with mythweb in ubuntu 12.04 LTS? I've never had this much damn problem and not sure what is going on... |
| [18:47:00] | pyrodex: | Right now I'm getting this File does not exist: /var/www/mythweb/skin_url |
| [18:47:19] | Swipular: | well h264 would be grand but mainly looking to get the size down without too much quality loss |
| [18:48:13] | wagnerrp: | if you go into the settings, and change the transcoding profile to 'lossless', it will cut out the your marked cutlist, and remux to a PS |
| [18:48:21] | wagnerrp: | cutting 30–40% off the file |
| [18:48:23] | Swipular: | pyrodex: is the file there? I think the mythweb files live in /user/share/mythtv/mythweb |
| [18:48:58] | pyrodex: | I did a git clone |
| [18:48:58] | wagnerrp: | it will do this in all of about 3 minutes, since it's really doing little more than copying the file |
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| [18:50:03] | wagnerrp: | pyrodex: if you're not going to use mythbuntu's mythweb packages, you really need to talk to ubuntu people on how to manually set up a web application |
| [18:50:38] | Swipular: | wagnerrp: thanks I'll give that a try, is mythtranscode not able to transcode to mpeg4? I suppose I could always throgh a hard drive at it if space becomes a problem. |
| [18:50:42] | pyrodex: | I tried to use mythbuntu's packages... |
| [18:50:52] | pyrodex: | I apt-get purge'ed and started fresh |
| [18:51:27] | wagnerrp: | Swipular: to be honest, it's really not worth the time and electricity to recompress recordings to H264, as compared to the cost of just getting more hard drives |
| [18:51:55] | wagnerrp: | transcode for compatibility with specific devices, or the ability to stream over a bandwidth limited network, not for file size |
| [18:52:17] | Swipular: | pyrodex: I had problems with the packages too (on debian) it did not completely set up the apace configs. had to do a little editing |
| [18:53:37] | Swipular: | wagnerrp: thanks again. I am streaming to xbmc front ends but I don't think that will be a problem (live tv is not) I am out of drive bays on my server though! |
| [18:54:22] | wagnerrp: | XBMC on normal PC hardware should have no problem handling mythtv's recordings |
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| [18:56:13] | Swipular: | wagnerrp: I have Xios boxes on the front ends and they work like a champ. |
| [18:57:04] | wagnerrp: | i don't know what those are |
| [18:59:07] | Swipular: | wagnerrp: android devices but they can be reflashed to run linux. $114 a piece and the handle 1080 video with no problem. I have a central server with the media on it and 1 of those on each tv (4 of em) |
| [19:00:28] | Swipular: | grrr, switched to lossless and am getting a differnet error.. |
| [19:00:31] | Swipular: | "Deadlock detected. One buffer is full when the other is empty" |
| [19:00:47] | wagnerrp: | huh... you are running 0.26, right? |
| [19:00:55] | wagnerrp: | i thought that bug was only affecting master at the moment |
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| [19:01:09] | Swipular: | think so let me confirm |
| [19:01:29] | Swipular: | yeah "MythTV Version : v0.26.0" |
| [19:02:46] | Swipular: | seems there is a way to manually fix it |
| [19:03:26] | Swipular: | need to remux the file.. |
| [19:03:39] | wagnerrp: | that shouldn't have any effect |
| [19:04:58] | Swipular: | hmm.. get that from the wiki.. could be a different problem with the same error.. |
| [19:05:16] | Swipular: | is there anything I can do? |
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| [19:08:44] | Swipular: | ah |
| [19:08:50] | Swipular: | seems it's a known bug |
| [19:09:06] | wagnerrp: | it's a recurring bug |
| [19:09:19] | wagnerrp: | it get's fixed for one release, and finds its way back in |
| [19:11:47] | Swipular: | found the bug report but no updates in a while |
| [19:13:20] | Swipular: | Well everything but that seems to work great so it's a monor annoyance not a show stopper. |
| [19:14:34] | Swipular: | I'll have to read up on using script to do the transcode I suppose |
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| [20:32:11] | Bray90820: | is there a way to check if your backend is running |
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| [22:53:28] | Bray90820: | is there a way to check if your backend is running |
| [22:54:52] | [R]: | ps |
| [22:55:39] | Bray90820: | hum |
| [22:56:10] | Bray90820: | here is my output of ps |
| [22:56:19] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gnHzKGtx |
| [22:57:09] | Bray90820: | is it running or not |
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| [23:01:17] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, 'ps aux | grep mythbackend' |
| [23:03:56] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 here is the output |
| [23:04:05] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bLLQuJ21 |
| [23:05:35] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, the eleventh item on that line is the command that is running. (it's after the start-timestamp and the running-timestamp) |
| [23:05:40] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, so, is it running? |
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| [23:07:00] | Bray90820: | yes it is running |
| [23:07:08] | Bray90820: | that's what i was afraid of |
| [23:07:20] | Bray90820: | like always things arn't recording again |
| [23:07:22] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, correct, it is running |
| [23:08:16] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 things just arn't working well for me at all |
| [23:08:48] | Bray90820: | i remember a little bit ago we were talking about me deleting stuff the wrong way |
| [23:09:00] | tgm4883: | i remember that |
| [23:09:37] | Bray90820: | and i had seems to clear it up with the find orphans script |
| [23:09:58] | Bray90820: | and everything worked fine and everything |
| [23:10:31] | Bray90820: | but i haven't touched anything related to mythtv since then |
| [23:10:56] | Bray90820: | and yesterday i notised something didn't recored that was scheduled to record |
| [23:11:34] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, I've got to run to the store for a few minutes. it's probably better for us to start troubleshooting from scratch, so if you could pinpoint when a recording was scheduled to take place (that was missed) and let me know the time and name of the show and pastebin your backend logs, I'll look at it when I get back |
| [23:12:56] | Bray90820: | ok thank you |
| [23:25:29] | Bray90820: | here is my backend logs |
| [23:25:30] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PzjXLkVa |
| [23:25:52] | Bray90820: | the recording should have taken place 3/16 at 7:00 CDT |
| [23:26:34] | Bray90820: | and idk if i am write or not but from the information i can gather it seems as if mythtv is off by a day |
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| [23:28:13] | Bray90820: | it loos like this file was recorded on saturday march 9th |
| [23:28:15] | Bray90820: | 1712_20130309020000.mpg |
| [23:29:15] | Bray90820: | but the original air date of that recording was the day before on the 8th |
| [23:29:28] | Bray90820: | so i have no idea what's going on with that ether |
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| [23:30:31] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 it actually seems like all my recordings are off by one day like that |
| [23:36:00] | RagingMind: | can channels from different sources have the same#? |
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