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[07:08:34] wagnerrp: xris: it keeps wanting to spell-check my variable names
[07:08:55] xris: wagnerrp: yeah, no idea why IDEs do that. you can disable that in the settings (there are a LOT of settings)
[07:09:12] wagnerrp: spent some time playing with it this afternoon
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[07:09:36] wagnerrp: ran into a bit of trouble with it being unable to detect the mysqldb plugin
[07:09:49] xris: huh
[07:10:03] xris: java + mysql is annoying in general, though
[07:10:15] xris: took me a little effort to get mysql stuff set up with intelliJ, too
[07:10:16] wagnerrp: could be due to to me setting up my runtime environment as a remote (ssh) machine
[07:10:50] wagnerrp: i'm talking about my MySQLdb python imports
[07:10:56] xris: my db is only accessible via proxying over ssh
[07:10:58] xris: ah
[07:11:04] wagnerrp: it complains that module is not installed on the test system
[07:11:23] xris: can you install the python hooks into phpstorm or did you grab pycharm?
[07:11:30] wagnerrp: pycharm
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[07:13:06] xris: I've only dabbled with the python stuff so far
[07:13:10] wagnerrp: i'm thinking it's not too happy with the test system and the local filesystem not lining up
[07:13:23] wagnerrp: i should grab the linux version and see if i can get it running on my bsd machine
[07:13:31] xris: maybe. I've had to install a lot of the php stuff locally and make sure it maps up with the remote stuff
[07:13:37] xris: but haven't had to try that with python stuff yet
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[07:14:42] wagnerrp: i don't think i've got any JRE installed...
[07:15:08] xris: you must have if the app runs
[07:15:16] wagnerrp: on my BSD machine
[07:15:32] wagnerrp: hence... need to install one before i could possibly get the app to run... :P
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[07:18:05] xris: ah
[07:18:08] xris: yes.
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[13:54:12] jya: I'm finally back at my place (after 7 months away)… in the mean time I had upgraded to ubuntu 12.04… My mceusb remove has stopped to work with myth. irw returns nothing
[13:55:05] jya: seems that it's now seen as a keyboard instead.
[13:55:07] jya: http://pastebin.com/4HQqURJH
[13:55:17] jya: I'd like to change as little as possible to my config
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[14:22:32] wagnerrp: jya: you have to prevent Xorg from picking up the device through the input subsystem
[14:22:48] jya: i did already… I added:
[14:23:21] jya: http://pastebin.com/LW9YAqN1
[14:25:14] jya: is it true that lirc / irw isn't the way to use a remote control anymore?
[14:25:45] wagnerrp: you can use Xorg directly, but you only have access to a subset of the buttons
[14:26:02] wagnerrp: since xorg only allows 256 button codes
[14:26:20] jya: i don't really feel like tweaking anything anymore
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[14:26:33] jya: I've spent years getting a remote control working like I want..
[14:26:49] wagnerrp: try just putting the generic line on the server 'Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"'
[14:27:47] wagnerrp: i think that's what i did, but it seems to have gotten flushed out during one update or another
[14:28:12] wagnerrp: so apparently i've just been fortunate that my lircd starts up first and grabs the input before X has a chance to
[14:28:18] jya: i thought making X11 ignore the input is only required as otherwise you would get the data twice
[14:28:25] jya: I don't even get one thing
[14:28:29] jya: nothing, zero, nada
[14:28:46] jya: the only place I see the remote is in lsusb, and dmesg
[14:29:11] jya: where do you add : "Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"'" ?
[14:29:13] wagnerrp: oh. i do recall having to re-learn the lircd.conf, which seemed odd. i hadn't heard anyone else having to do that
[14:29:28] wagnerrp: in the xorg.conf Server section
[14:29:52] wagnerrp: or ServerLayout
[14:29:57] wagnerrp: one of those
[14:30:08] jya: only have a server layout option
[14:30:56] jya: doesn't like that line in ServerLayout
[14:31:00] jya: X won't even start
[14:31:44] wagnerrp: try ServerFlags
[14:32:00] wagnerrp: you may have to make that section yourself
[14:32:32] jya: ah, I had a trailing '
[14:33:14] jya: great , now it doesn't even see my usb keyboard
[14:33:18] wagnerrp: heh
[14:34:33] jya: grrrrrrr… every time I've upgraded ubuntu, I got some crap with lira… they don't seem to ever manage to stick to one method and keep using it… no, they have to change everything
[14:38:01] jams: jya, run ir-keytable it shoudl list the enabled protocols
[14:38:33] jams: if LIRC is not listed as the current protocols then run ir-keytable -p LIRC to switch it
[14:39:12] jams: that should make it work only as a lirc device and things should work like they had previously (as a lirc device)
[14:39:40] jya: jams I'll try… first I've just realised my amp doesn't even start
[14:39:42] jya: #@$@!#$!
[14:41:40] wagnerrp: looks like i'm set to RC-6
[14:42:00] wagnerrp: i wonder if that would explain why i'm missing a couple buttons on my remote
[14:42:21] wagnerrp: specifically, the power and windows buttons
[14:47:08] jya: jams: do you need to run ir-keytable as root ?
[14:50:48] jya: not much luck there either: http://pastebin.com/yEqEXp2b
[14:53:25] jya: ok, i specified to use rc2 (seems to use rc0 as default) now it tells me LIRC protocol as the only enabled entry
[14:53:44] jams: oh you have more then one receiver connected
[14:54:17] jya: sudo irrecord --driver=default --device=/dev/lirc0 test , it fails after 10s with irrecord: no data for 10 secs, aborting
[14:54:22] jams: but I see that LIRC is enabled...along with all those others. is lircd pointing at the right /dev/lirc node
[14:54:43] jya: jams yes.. I have two devices lirc0 and lirc1
[14:54:55] jya: udevadm shows lirc0 being the mceusb one
[14:55:22] jya: http://pastebin.com/6AmwpjWK
[14:58:56] jams: sure does
[15:00:08] jams: since you have more then one the ir-keytable command will need the device specificied. ir-keytable -d rc2 -p LIRC But i'm not for sure that will help as it's already listed as enabled.
[15:00:21] jams: so guess I don't know
[15:00:47] jya: i see my cursor moving on its own in mythfrontend
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[15:27:34] pladijs: Automatic suspend through mythwelcome stopped working. sometimes it works; sometimes it restarts the countdown. sometimes my system suspends while i am listening to music. i am looking at the logs, but there is nothing to be seen when the countdown restarts... should I be looking at /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log or the ones in the folder defined when starting mythwelcome (lots of files there).
[15:29:47] pladijs: This is on 0.26-fixes (v0.26.0-101-g7a2e60f). to be honest: this automatic shutdown has always been problematic; I find that surprising for something that looks quite simple to implement (but then I don't know the first thing about programming)
[15:31:41] pladijs: Also; "mythshutdown --check && echo $?" returns 0, even when watching live-tv or listening to music. Is that normal? Same for --status.
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[15:34:23] pladijs_: there it went and did suspend (on a different pc now)
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[15:41:07] ghoti: So ... I've got an Elgato EyeTV Hybrid that runs fine with the EyeTV software on a Mac, but the unit has a USB id that doesn't seem to be supported by any of the Linux tuner drivers. Is it possible that this EyeTV Hybrid will work with MythTV running on a Mac, when it won't work when running in Linux? That is, will EyeTV drivers for OSX be something that MythTV can talk to, or is this a pipe dream?
[15:41:35] wagnerrp: no. mythtv does not support the tuner APIs used by OSX
[15:41:40] wagnerrp: only those on Linux
[15:42:18] ghoti: Ah, darn, so this tuner is a doorstop.
[15:42:32] ghoti: Thanks.  :)
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[16:16:42] pladijs_: I am getting desperate... mythtv shuts down while playing music, just writing in the logs "checkshutdownserver returned ok to shutdown"... and does not shutdown when the mythwelcome counter gets to zero... and nothing appears in the logs. Now I just saw the countdown jumping from 120 seconds to 300 seconds. what could this be
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[17:38:04] pladijs_: I am really seeing very strange behaviour in mythwelcome. Could this be due to a corrupt database? How do I get a fresh install where I can exclude my own messing around as a cause of the problem, and issues due to sequential upgrading?
[17:39:14] pladijs_: or is it unlikely that upgrading 0.24->0.25->0.26 is causing problems?
[17:40:03] pladijs_: In any case, I started backing up my database... could I now just purge the mythtv packages and re-install them? should I go for 0.25 or 0.26?
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[18:20:00] ThisOneGuy: hi all – I just built the latest from master and now when I play any HDPVR recordings it plays for ~2 seconds and then pauses and dies – can anyone help me?
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[18:34:50] SteveGoodey: ThisOneGuy: Anything in the logs?
[18:37:38] ThisOneGuy: here's one that played for 2 seconds and then got really slow and no audio: http://pastebin.com/cP0Ux66Z
[18:38:28] wagnerrp: AAAAAAAALAALAAAAAAALAAL!
[18:38:56] wagnerrp: have you tried playing without VDPAU?
[18:41:17] ThisOneGuy: I have not
[18:41:19] ThisOneGuy: lemme try
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[18:44:05] ThisOneGuy: Similar effect if I choose "High Quality": http://pastebin.com/GXhKfJ1y
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[18:51:23] ThisOneGuy: I noticed that before upgrading my hdpvr recordings always a hiccup in them after ~2 seconds – could that be related?
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[18:58:46] ThisOneGuy: er "always *had* a hiccup"
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[19:05:25] pladijs_: hmmm... so i backed up the myth-database, purged all packages, and reverted to the 0.25 in quantal. So far setting it up goes smooth, but now under "setup->media settings" there is no "music settings" only "video settings". Any ideas?
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[19:36:58] ThisOneGuy: I reverted to 397d1e929d3a92aeb830aae948a828694911bca9 and playback works again
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[21:52:57] test_: how come you can't watch/record tv in 0.25 or 0.26 with a cband lnb but ku band works fine?
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[22:06:08] Steve-Goodey: From wiki Commercial detection with silence for UK freeviewHD page "to pick up short and/or loud silences". Loud silences, I get that.
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