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| [00:20:09] | bill6502: | jm|laptop: Re your experience with Android, was it MythTV Android Frontend? |
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| [00:22:17] | jm|laptop: | bill6502: my experience was with RPi backend – xbmc+cmyth addon |
| [00:22:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | bill6502: It was me on Android – and that app would not run successfully on my phone. (Samsung Captivate on CyanogenMod 10 Nightlies [JB]) |
| [00:23:02] | bill6502: | Thanks, then J-e-f-f-A, what version of MythTV and MAF please. |
| [00:24:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | bill6502: 0.25-fixes currently – specifically MythTV Version : v0.25.3-33-g1d4d50b-dirty (only 'dirty' due to a mythlcdserver patch) – And what is MAF? |
| [00:24:54] | bill6502: | Asking because 0.26 allows compression and ETags to improve download times. MAF = MythTV Android Frontend 'cause I'm too lazy to cut and paste it. |
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| [00:25:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | ah. ;-) I un-installed MAF a while ago – let me try with the latest... |
| [00:25:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | PS: My DB is quite large – 500+ channels, 1054 recordings at this moment (was 1800+ in the past) |
| [00:26:27] | bill6502: | MAF 1.0.4 has improvements that do DB additions 100 entries at a time for users with huge collections. |
| [00:28:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | I *think* I tried this version – I seem to remember that update... /me tries installing it again to test... |
| [00:29:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | PS: My phone has a single-core 1Ghz ARM Cortex A8 – if it matters – not exactly a speed demon, but not too shabby. |
| [00:30:23] | bill6502: | Will probably get the same result with 0.25 (no compression or ETags,) but I'd be interested to hear the result. |
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| [00:32:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | woops, hit " " instead of "." in the Ip address... now can't cancel to fix it... waiting on "Retrieving Master Backend Details" – how long till it times out and I can fix it? ;-) |
| [00:34:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | heh, I just killed it and restarted. Entered http: address to my backend... taking it's time doing the initial retrieve... |
| [00:35:18] | bill6502: | Let me get you the command to test from a browser... |
| [00:36:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | bill6502: I have a couple of Android "Mini PCs" on the way – if it doesn't work on my phone well, perhaps it'll work better on them... They're coming from China – so I probably won't have them till mid-march... |
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| [00:36:45] | bill6502: | From a browser on your tablet/phone: <BackendIP>:6544/Myth/GetHostName |
| [00:37:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | that returns, from a local browser session on my backend anyways... |
| [00:37:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | returns: <String>mythbackend</String> |
| [00:38:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | My phone is still trying to Retrieve the Master backend Details... |
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| [00:39:00] | bill6502: | Good, I'd try from the phone just to test. I don't know why its hanging. |
| [00:39:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | ah, I see you said to try that from the phone – I suspect it will be the same – / me tries. |
| [00:42:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | From the stock browser – nothing displayed on my phone... /me tries Chrome... |
| [00:42:57] | bill6502: | I also suggest typing: mythbackend --quiet --nodblog --setverbose upnp on your Master Backend, so you can see the requests coming from the phone. Although at this point, I wouldn't expect anything. |
| [00:43:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | I've got a few recordings going right now, so I can't do that at the moment. |
| [00:44:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | woops, my bad... had typed /Mythtv/ instead of /Myth/ – works in Chrome – going back to Android OS browser... one sec. |
| [00:45:19] | bill6502: | It only changes the verbose level, as if you'd started the backend with it. But if you're not comfortable with it OK. |
| [00:45:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yep, that worked fine, just like on my Backend. |
| [00:46:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | I don't think 'mythbackend' is resolvable on my network though, by name... /me opens a shell on his phone to check. |
| [00:47:34] | bill6502: | It isn't for me, always used IPs. Although now I've got avahi working, so I just use the "Scan Network" selection in setup. |
| [00:47:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | Actually, I lied. It resolves... |
| [00:48:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | oh wait, no it doesn't... |
| [00:48:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | (micro text on cell phone ssh session!) It's getting a response from 'search.dnsassist.verizon.net' instead... d'oh |
| [00:48:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | maybe I could place an entry in my router... /me checks. |
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| [00:52:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ok, maybe that will resolve it... added to DNS entries on my router, and now can ping locally by dns name (mythbackend) on my phone... |
| [00:53:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | Trying again – still hanging after 20 secs... Should it be 'instant'? |
| [00:54:21] | bill6502: | Nearly, just a few seconds for me. But I only have WiFi access. |
| [00:54:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, I'm on my wifi... but it's still not returning... |
| [00:56:24] | bill6502: | Did you only enter an IP address, as opposed to entering http://....:6544? |
| [00:56:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | Nope, entered the full string as shown in the example. |
| [00:56:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | including the trailing slash / |
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| [00:57:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | ie: http://192.168.1.19:6544/ |
| [00:57:28] | bill6502: | OK, you only need the 192.168.1.123, the rest will be filled in by default. |
| [00:57:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | Oh... Well, then the example should just be an IP! ;-) |
| [00:58:13] | bill6502: | But what you just typed looks fine, as long as that's your backend's IP. |
| [00:58:57] | bill6502: | Yeah, I think its a bit of a secret but it's there for folks who need something else e.g. a different port number. |
| [00:59:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Let's see... 10 seconds so far... no change. |
| [00:59:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | oh, wati, it just came back... |
| [00:59:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | *wait |
| [00:59:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | No luck... force-closes when I clicked on "Recordings" – "Unfortunately, MythTV Android Frontend has stopped" |
| [01:00:05] | ** J-e-f-f-A taps "Report" ** | |
| [01:00:27] | bill6502: | Can I talk to you with a PM? |
| [01:00:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | sure. |
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| [01:47:44] | Deanis: | HI! youtube.py is broke or something. It dies when it tries to access youtubes family movie page. Is there an updated version of the youtube.py or mythtv .25 on mythbuntu or, peral to fix? |
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| [10:48:40] | alan`: | hey i'm looking for the cx18 firmware, ivtv is down. putting my hardware into a newer system when the old one died and can't retrieve the firmware from the old hard drive |
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| [12:29:55] | lapion: | is there any module that automatically handles the necessity mythslave servers ? |
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| [14:32:18] | smoothifier: | hi guys. i just installed a new os and i'm trying to restore the mythtv database. it is having trouble connecting. i just ran the mc.sql script and have my passwords set at the default, and i went into mysql and made sure that I had all privileges for mythtv and that the password was set correctly. I feel pretty dumb but i seem to be stuck here |
| [14:32:43] | smoothifier: | by it having trouble connecting, I mean the restore script is not connecting |
| [14:33:54] | smoothifier: | i put the mysql.txt and config.txt into /home/mythtv/.mythtv and the values are populating |
| [14:38:31] | smoothifier: | there don't seem to be any tables after I run the mc.sql script. is this normal? |
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| [15:11:48] | smoothifier: | ok, just ran nmap and port 3306 is an open port. i'm not sure what i'm missing here |
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| [15:25:27] | wagnerrp: | correct. mc.sql does not create tables |
| [15:25:32] | smoothifier: | Ok, so I must have a problem. I changed 192.168.1.50 to 127.0.0.1 in config.xml and now it's restoring |
| [15:25:37] | wagnerrp: | it only creates the database, and sets some engine defaults |
| [15:25:50] | smoothifier: | yeah, i had a look at it since i typed that |
| [15:25:54] | wagnerrp: | it sounds like your mysql server (my.cnf) is not configured to listen on the network |
| [15:26:11] | smoothifier: | i had bind address of 0.0.0.0 |
| [15:26:17] | smoothifier: | but maybe there is something else missing |
| [15:26:40] | wagnerrp: | the default permissions set by mc.sql only work for the local system |
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| [15:27:21] | smoothifier: | you probably addressed this in the docs and i didn't see it |
| [15:28:08] | smoothifier: | but if mysql is listening on 3306 (because of my nmap scan) is it something else? |
| [15:28:26] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#modify_perm_mysql |
| [15:28:42] | smoothifier: | thanks, raymond. i appreciate it |
| [15:29:17] | smoothifier: | yep, i remember that part. |
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| [16:01:44] | wagnerrp: | what kind of idiot would think it were acceptable to register the 'mythtv' account name on the mythtv wiki? |
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| [19:07:23] | jpabq: | wagnerrp: does the services API provide a mechanism for creating a new recording rule? Based on the documentation on the wiki I am guessing no, but figured you where more authoritative ;-) |
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| [19:08:43] | tgm4883: | jpabq, yes |
| [19:08:52] | tgm4883: | jpabq, I've got that working in my unity scope |
| [19:09:18] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp could probably show you the code that does it though. He's amazing |
| [19:09:46] | jpabq: | tgm4883: cool. That could be useful sometimes — especially when I need to test back-to-back recordings, and need to create a bunch of rules. |
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| [19:48:27] | MaStr--: | Hi, I need some help about transcoding. I'm not sure If I understood it correctly |
| [19:49:24] | MaStr--: | I'm using DVB-S cards on one master and one slave backend |
| [19:49:44] | MaStr--: | and I want to reduce the size of the recorded files |
| [19:50:04] | [R]: | where is wagnerrp when you need him |
| [19:50:21] | MaStr--: | I saw, there is an option for mp4 encoding but I can't choose them |
| [19:50:53] | MaStr--: | I understand the different transcoding options not really (and I think the wiki page is non consistent to the menu of 0.25) |
| [19:50:56] | MaStr--: | :) |
| [19:51:38] | ** MaStr-- uses MythTV since 0.18 and never needed it until these days ** | |
| [19:52:24] | wagnerrp: | it's a good chance your DVB-S recordings are already h264 |
| [19:52:39] | wagnerrp: | meaning any format mythtranscode currently supports will merely result in a larger file size than you already have |
| [19:52:58] | MaStr--: | ok |
| [19:53:16] | MaStr--: | but, then why is this option there (beside cutting commercials)? |
| [19:53:55] | wagnerrp: | it's there for back when people used crappy framegrabbers and hideously underpowered backends that couldn't do anything better than RTJPEG |
| [19:54:08] | MaStr--: | ok |
| [19:54:33] | tgm4883: | jpabq, sorry, got sidetracked https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . vrServices.h |
| [19:54:43] | MaStr--: | overall that explains it, I already deactivated it a while ago |
| [19:54:43] | tgm4883: | jpabq, notice there is a AddRecordSchedule |
| [19:55:24] | tgm4883: | jpabq, I've got that working here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbu . . . vservices.py |
| [19:56:32] | jpabq: | tgm4883: Nice. Thanks! |
| [19:57:08] | MaStr--: | wagnerrp: but, what is the reason, when I export with mythnuv2mkv.sh to mp4 or something different that the file has around 1/3 filesize ? |
| [19:57:32] | MaStr--: | and keeping the resolution the same |
| [19:57:46] | MaStr--: | (or I misconfigured mythnuv2mkv) |
| [19:57:48] | wagnerrp: | then you may have mpeg2 content, in which case you could expect around half to one third the file size recompressing to h264 |
| [19:57:50] | tgm4883: | jpabq, yep, let me know if you have any questions/comments |
| [19:58:32] | jpabq: | tgm4883: I will hopefully have time to give it a try later today. |
| [19:58:56] | wagnerrp: | whatever the case, mythtranscode does not support the use of h264 encoding outside of the HLS mode |
| [19:59:31] | MaStr--: | wagnerrp: ok |
| [20:00:54] | MaStr--: | is there a way to reduce the recording output in this setup ? for example for daily trash stuff |
| [20:00:59] | Korny: | So i tried using xmbc 12 new mythtv addon |
| [20:01:13] | Korny: | I'm not sure what it did but accessing my backend got stupid slow |
| [20:01:31] | wagnerrp: | reducing the recording output? mythtv records exactly what is being transmitted by your broadcaster |
| [20:01:54] | Korny: | MaStr--, I just delete stuff after 2 days for daily stuff, live tv gets deleted in 24 hours |
| [20:02:14] | Korny: | I would just suggest getting more HD space if 6 gigs an hour is really that painful :/ |
| [20:02:45] | wagnerrp: | DVB-S... so it could be more, but it's more likely considerably less |
| [20:03:30] | Korny: | wagnerrp, think a low end i3 could keep up with commercial flagging and general mythtv backend stuff? |
| [20:03:46] | Korny: | I'm thinking of building an unraid box and a seperate mythtv box |
| [20:03:55] | Korny: | to lower power consumption from my 125 watt chip |
| [20:04:04] | MaStr--: | Korny: I already have ~148Gb for auto rotating ; 150G for long keeping like Big Bang theory |
| [20:04:12] | wagnerrp: | absolutely... but i'm not a fan of unraid |
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| [20:04:22] | Korny: | I'm running flexraid right now on my server |
| [20:04:30] | Korny: | whcih I like, |
| [20:04:31] | wagnerrp: | MaStr--: yikes... the average mythtv installation runs several terabytes |
| [20:04:41] | ** Korny has 6 tb for dvr function ** | |
| [20:04:46] | Korny: | 4 1.5's |
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| [20:04:58] | MaStr--: | Korny: wow |
| [20:05:07] | Korny: | MaStr--, tahts not that unsusual |
| [20:05:19] | wagnerrp: | i've got 3 2's, plus 7+2 750's |
| [20:05:19] | MaStr--: | Korny: until the last weeks it was ok |
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| [20:05:42] | stuartm: | MaStr--: fwiw, resolution isn't an absolute indicator of picture quality, you can have HD video (e.g. youtube) that looks pretty rubbish compared blu-ray (etc) at the same res – generally the lower the bitrate the worse the quality |
| [20:05:49] | MaStr--: | Korny: we are not keeping stuff, if it was seen once (or I export it to mp4 ) |
| [20:06:20] | stuartm: | although in the US HD is mpeg2 not H.264, so there is some room for compression |
| [20:06:38] | Korny: | Mythtv shoudl be deleting old recordings if your HD is full MaStr-- |
| [20:06:46] | MaStr--: | yes yes |
| [20:06:49] | MaStr--: | this is all active |
| [20:07:33] | MaStr--: | I was alredy tweeking around with the delete priorities because I encountered problems with "just finished recording and I delete it now" stuff |
| [20:07:48] | Korny: | Maybe I'm missing what you're asking? Are you asking if you can transcode on the fly, You could setup a job to start on a recording start |
| [20:08:01] | Korny: | and delete the orginial when completed... |
| [20:08:24] | Korny: | I just find it easier to ad a HD though :/ |
| [20:10:04] | MaStr--: | I asked to reduce the filesize with transcoding it afterwarts down to a better encoding or bitrate (or whatever) |
| [20:10:43] | MaStr--: | because now I'm getting some troubles because of unseen stuff and disk space |
| [20:10:56] | Korny: | did you run the command to delete orphaned files |
| [20:10:59] | MaStr--: | I have a few GB left on the hard disk, which I can dynamically add |
| [20:11:01] | Korny: | speaking of which, what is that command |
| [20:11:10] | Korny: | on .026 |
| [20:11:13] | Korny: | 0.26 |
| [20:11:18] | MaStr--: | I'm on 0.25 |
| [20:12:17] | Korny: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py |
| [20:12:24] | Korny: | I'm not even sure if that works with 0.26 |
| [20:12:59] | jpabq: | tgm4883: do you have an example of how to use that? I admit, I am not great with python — although I really should learn it. |
| [20:13:07] | MaStr--: | no, I didn't know that *trying* |
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| [20:14:07] | tgm4883: | jpabq, I kinda have an example |
| [20:14:08] | tgm4883: | sec |
| [20:14:37] | Korny: | python /path/to/script.py |
| [20:14:40] | Korny: | ? |
| [20:14:54] | MaStr--: | Korny: it saves me 26 MB XD |
| [20:14:54] | tgm4883: | jpabq, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbu . . . guide-mythtv |
| [20:15:03] | tgm4883: | jpabq, line 325 |
| [20:15:21] | tgm4883: | jpabq, let me know if that doesn't make too much sense |
| [20:15:32] | jpabq: | tgm4883: thanks |
| [20:16:02] | Korny: | wagnerrp, is there an equivlent to that script for 0.26? |
| [20:17:54] | Beirdo: | !help |
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| [20:18:49] | wagnerrp: | as far as i know, that script should work in 0.26 |
| [20:18:57] | wagnerrp: | beirdo! |
| [20:19:04] | wagnerrp: | back from the dead/job! |
| [20:20:00] | MaStr--: | another question: Can I extract or modify the syslog that I get a logfile which recording was deleted because of which rule/cause ? |
| [20:20:04] | Beirdo: | yeah, kinda :) |
| [20:20:29] | Beirdo: | you'll have to give me a few more weeks before I have time to start catching up on myth itself :) |
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| [20:22:32] | MaStr--: | about the disc-space topic: since i installed MythTV I have the intention to use the space I have.. because always adding some would only result in add more space |
| [20:23:07] | wagnerrp: | MaStr--: mythtv's autoexpirer runs at minimum every 15 minutes |
| [20:23:29] | wagnerrp: | as you use up space for other things, mythtv will automatically start deleting content to free up more space |
| [20:23:45] | Beirdo: | oh, and my frontend and TV don't agree on audio... |
| [20:23:52] | MaStr--: | I use seperate partitions |
| [20:24:04] | Beirdo: | HDMI audio out is buggered... so I can't play back.... |
| [20:24:10] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [20:24:19] | Beirdo: | so I shut the frontend off for now |
| [20:24:43] | Beirdo: | I'll have to fix that... and my borked firewall... one of these days |
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| [20:28:50] | MaStr--: | wagnerrp: can I grep the output and the decisions of the autoexpirer somehow? |
| [20:29:24] | ** MaStr-- adds now his last 120 GB to the recording partition ** | |
| [20:30:06] | wagnerrp: | sure, i don't know what the line is specifically |
| [20:30:12] | wagnerrp: | should be fairly trivial to spot |
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| [20:32:14] | Korny: | sigh where is find_oprhans.py lol |
| [20:33:34] | MaStr--: | wagnerrp: yes you are right, I'm sorry.. should have seen this |
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| [20:39:11] | MaStr--: | but in fact, the SendDeleteMessage is calles but at this point the function does not know why it should delete the recording |
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| [20:44:06] | MaStr--: | but the idea how the autoexpire works for current running recordings is good :) |
| [20:44:13] | MaStr--: | I like it |
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| [21:21:10] | MaStr--: | how can it be that the "Space used" count of my new partition differs between mythtv's opinion and df's opinion |
| [21:21:17] | MaStr--: | we are talking about 3GB |
| [21:21:23] | MaStr--: | or 4 GB |
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| [21:39:27] | MaStr--: | anyway. Thank you, I'll upgrade my raid in the next month .. |
| [21:39:42] | MaStr--: | bye |
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| [21:41:00] | leopard79: | Hello everyone, |
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| [21:42:49] | leopard79: | I got a question concerning the file size of live tv recording. Is it possible to split them automatically maybe every 30 minutes or 1 GB? |
| [21:43:23] | clever: | leopard79: i think it should split automaticaly when one show stops and another starts |
| [21:43:30] | clever: | if you have the guide data |
| [21:43:39] | tgm4883: | that would be my assumption as well |
| [21:44:14] | [R]: | no assumption |
| [21:44:15] | [R]: | thats how it works |
| [21:44:38] | wagnerrp: | if you have no guide data, it automatically splits at the top and bottom of the hour |
| [21:44:48] | [R]: | is that new? |
| [21:44:56] | leopard79: | thats right :). the problem is a bit more difficult. I just got a small box with a 32 gig ssd. for livetv i set up a 6 gig ram drive. |
| [21:45:00] | wagnerrp: | or every 30 minutes |
| [21:45:03] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure |
| [21:45:13] | wagnerrp: | leopard79: that's retarded, just use normal disk space |
| [21:45:18] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:45:56] | leopard79: | I know, but I dont want livetv to write to ssd all the time. I think thats no good ;) |
| [21:46:15] | wagnerrp: | right, just let it record to your normal recording drives |
| [21:46:29] | wagnerrp: | leave the SSD to things that need high IO performance, like boot up and the database |
| [21:46:36] | leopard79: | hehe, thats the problem, there are none ;) |
| [21:47:15] | leopard79: | I basically watch livetv all the time and don't make recordings. But my girlfriend is keen on this pause feature |
| [21:47:33] | wagnerrp: | you have a machine with an SSD, enough memory to give it a 6GB ram disk, and no bulk storage? |
| [21:47:52] | leopard79: | and I like the GUI of mythtv very much. |
| [21:48:13] | leopard79: | right. its an intel NUC device |
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| [21:48:37] | leopard79: | I could connect an usb storage though... |
| [21:48:42] | wagnerrp: | usually such small machines operate as dedicated frontends |
| [21:48:53] | wagnerrp: | with some big server elsewhere with all the hard drives and tuners |
| [21:49:49] | leopard79: | Yes, I know. I think I am not the typicall mythtv user ;). In my case its just a better settop box. |
| [21:50:13] | leopard79: | Just thought that there is an easy way to configure mythtv to split the files. |
| [21:50:34] | wagnerrp: | nope, if you have guide data, it splits at the natural splits in the data |
| [21:50:52] | wagnerrp: | no NAS anywhere on the network? |
| [21:50:59] | clever: | only problem i can see, is if you leave it paused for 6 hours |
| [21:51:06] | clever: | it will keep recording, and probly wont expire any of it |
| [21:52:10] | leopard79: | thats exactly what happend. 6gb is just enough for 1,5 hours of hd live tv. after that, the whole box crashes. |
| [21:52:26] | leopard79: | no NAS connected |
| [21:54:03] | leopard79: | zapping of cause helps, but who wants to zap every our during a sport event ;) |
| [21:54:32] | leopard79: | so as I see there is no possiblity to set up an max file size? |
| [21:54:38] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [21:55:10] | clever: | you would need 2 or 3 hours of disk space for it to work stable i think |
| [21:55:15] | clever: | and not pause it for that long |
| [21:56:31] | leopard79: | ok, thanks for your help. I already thought about 16 gig of ram which would give me about 13 to 14 gig for the ram disk. maybe that's enough than... |
| [21:56:38] | leopard79: | ram is cheap these days ;) |
| [21:56:53] | wagnerrp: | why not just get a little laptop drive or something? |
| [21:57:25] | clever: | assuming no guide data, it would make 1h hours (acording to wagnerrp), so worst case, it will be playing a full 1h file, and making a second |
| [21:57:32] | clever: | plus a 3rd hour for safety |
| [21:57:35] | wagnerrp: | half hour |
| [21:57:52] | clever: | ah, you said top and bottom of the hour at first |
| [21:58:11] | tgm4883: | I've not read backlog, but don't forget super long events (sporting events) |
| [21:58:28] | clever: | yeah, if you have guide data, and its a long show, things can get worse |
| [21:58:44] | leopard79: | the NUC only has an msata connection and no space for a notebook drive :( |
| [21:59:13] | leopard79: | yes, I got guide data, maybe I can switch it off (just kidding) |
| [22:00:34] | leopard79: | so thanks again for your answers. Somehow I'll make it work :). Bye... |
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| [22:00:49] | wagnerrp: | madness... |
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| [22:19:49] | wagnerrp: | why do people have to go and overcomplicate things with proxies, and multiple web servers, and pulseaudio? |
| [22:20:13] | Beirdo: | because we aren't stupid automotons? |
| [22:20:44] | wagnerrp: | "will mythweb work with my pair of round-robin balanced web servers?" |
| [22:20:54] | wagnerrp: | seriously, dude, too much equipment at home |
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| [22:21:23] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [22:21:31] | Beirdo: | yeah no kidding |
| [22:21:54] | Beirdo: | OK, that's way over the line for sure |
| [22:25:55] | wagnerrp: | i don't mind people doing insane crap like that |
| [22:26:02] | wagnerrp: | but if they do, they should know what they're doing |
| [22:26:12] | wagnerrp: | and shouldn't need to go to the mailing list for some pretty simple questions |
| [22:26:17] | EvilGuru: | Normally they are following some fruitloop on a blog |
| [22:26:36] | EvilGuru: | Who did something crazy, hacked it til it worked, forgot half the steps, then blogged about it |
| [22:28:10] | wagnerrp: | speaking of "hacking until it works", i still haven't managed to get my ipv6 tunnel back up ever since my ISP switched me from ADSL to ADSL2 |
| [22:28:32] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Different BRAS |
| [22:28:40] | EvilGuru: | And some have been known to eat Ipv6 packets |
| [22:28:44] | wagnerrp: | i think they're silently dropping any packets tagged as using the tunneling protocol |
| [22:28:50] | EvilGuru: | (Well, tunnelled IPv6) |
| [22:28:52] | wagnerrp: | protocol #41 or some such |
| [22:28:52] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/41 ** | |
| [22:29:36] | wagnerrp: | although i don't know my way around low level networking to now how to properly detect that |
| [22:30:48] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Send something else down the port (netcat at the other endpoint) |
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| [22:31:08] | EvilGuru: | Will see if everything on #41 is being dropped or just tunnelled stuff |
| [22:31:08] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/41 ** | |
| [22:31:55] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what you mean |
| [22:32:12] | EvilGuru: | On a server run netcat and get it to listen on port 41 |
| [22:32:22] | wagnerrp: | i'm not talking about port 41, i mean protocol 41 |
| [22:32:24] | wagnerrp: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#Tunneling |
| [22:32:28] | EvilGuru: | Right, sorry |
| [22:32:51] | wagnerrp: | like protocol 47 is some kind of special VPN support that sometimes gets filtered |
| [22:33:17] | wagnerrp: | and "vpn aware" routers are ones that are "smart" enough to simply allow that traffic rather than intentionally block it |
| [22:33:17] | [R]: | we do ipsec at my work |
| [22:33:20] | [R]: | thats 50/51 |
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| [22:35:29] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Yeah, that's GRE, I've seen some ISPs filter it to force people to upgrade to business accounts |
| [22:36:01] | wagnerrp: | no, i think it's just this POS westell router that replaced the wonderful old 675 |
| [22:36:40] | wagnerrp: | oh, and my bridged /29 turned into a routed /32 |
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| [23:18:59] | BogusTrumper: | Hello, everyone. I'm having a problem getting Hulu to work through MythTV version 0.25 |
| [23:19:24] | BogusTrumper: | Search returns no results, and trying to Browse gives an error. |
| [23:19:49] | BogusTrumper: | Running "hulu.py -v" works, but "hulu.py -T" to generate the tree raises an error. |
| [23:20:34] | BogusTrumper: | I'm happy to start a forum post on this if that's the best way to try to get this resolved, but I thought I'd check here in case anybody had some insight. |
| [23:29:08] | wagnerrp: | mailing list post? we don't have a forum |
| [23:29:53] | BogusTrumper: | ...so mythtvtalk.com is dead? |
| [23:30:02] | wagnerrp: | it's unofficial |
| [23:30:09] | BogusTrumper: | fair enough |
| [23:30:55] | BogusTrumper: | I'll see if I can find anything in the mailing list, then. Thanks. |
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