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Friday, January 11th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
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[00:03:05] rumblebumble: This behavior when away once he rebooted
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[00:08:13] Bray90820: Anyone know why my frontend is really slow and only accepts localhost instead of 127.0.0.1
[00:08:46] Handyguy: I had that behaviour last night!
[00:08:55] Handyguy: is it a new FE?
[00:09:31] Bray90820: well i installed it like a week ago
[00:09:44] Handyguy: has it ever worked?
[00:09:46] Bray90820: but it all started when i updated from 0.25.2 to 0.25.3
[00:09:54] Bray90820: it worked before i updated
[00:10:00] Bray90820: now everything is going bad
[00:10:40] Bray90820: sometimes it even completely freezes and i have to restart the computer
[00:11:00] Handyguy: in my case it was a new FE and new BE. I was getting messages like all tuners busy and was really really slow. Noting was using the tuners.
[00:11:13] Bray90820: one place it freezes is when i change localhost to 127.0.0.1
[00:11:48] Bray90820: handyguyi had that as well
[00:12:01] Handyguy: my disk was full on the server (I was restoring backup vids) and it wasnt keeping up with deletes from live TV.
[00:12:21] Bray90820: that's not me
[00:12:23] Handyguy: and just ground the BE to a halt which also effected the FE
[00:12:33] Bray90820: i havent recorded anything yeat
[00:13:12] Handyguy: make sure something isnt consuming resources on BE. Could be something else taking disk i/o or cpu
[00:13:31] Handyguy: top will tell you
[00:13:38] Handyguy: same on FE
[00:13:59] Handyguy: sorry if I'm stating obvious
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[00:17:10] Bray90820: my cpu is fine
[00:17:24] Bray90820: only like 5% usage
[00:17:44] Handyguy: on both fe and be?
[00:17:57] Handyguy: or are they the same machine?
[00:18:02] Bray90820: total on hole system
[00:18:07] Bray90820: they are the same
[00:19:01] Handyguy: Sorry, I'm not deep into it enough to offer more help
[00:19:09] Bray90820: alright
[00:19:19] Bray90820: at least you tried
[00:19:33] Handyguy: the windoze guys would insist you rebooted before doing further troubleshooting
[00:20:08] Bray90820: well i am on ubuntu 12.04
[00:20:23] Bray90820: and i have rebooted
[00:21:15] Handyguy: yeah, that + .26 got me in trouble now starting from scratch. on .26. Never had issues installing and setting up .24. grrr
[00:21:42] Bray90820: im using 0.25
[00:21:48] Bray90820: 0.25.3
[00:22:25] Handyguy: Any idea why my FE cant play a video from a storageGroup? recordings and live TV are fine.
[00:22:36] Bray90820: handyguy how did you uninstall it
[00:22:40] Handyguy: I also have all the meta data for the vids showing fine
[00:22:52] Bray90820: handyguy im sorry i dont know
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[00:23:17] Handyguy: I didnt uninstall anything. I just did a fresh install of everything.
[00:24:02] Handyguy: my upgrade effed up everything
[00:24:04] Bray90820: fresh install of ubuntu?
[00:24:29] Handyguy: mythbuntu actually, yes
[00:26:45] Handyguy: I shouldnt have had to do that but I had so many issues. I was mainly worried about video archives which were backed up. Going fresh worked for me. except the issue I have with a remote FE not playing the vids.
[00:27:38] Bray90820: ugh that would be so much work for me to reinstall everything
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[00:28:34] Handyguy: yeah, oh, and I had to do it TWICE on thebackend because right after the install update manager locked up and effed up a ton of stuff.
[00:29:15] Bray90820: if i could just purge mythtv then it would all be fine
[00:29:17] Bray90820: but no
[00:29:21] Bray90820: purge does not work
[00:30:24] Bray90820: anyone else know how to completely remove mythtv and all it's setting
[00:31:36] Handyguy: try googling apt-get for some examples?
[00:32:09] Bray90820: well i do know how to remove mythtv but it keeps all the settings and everything
[00:32:53] Bray90820: purg mythtv should in theory work but it keeps all the setting and everything
[00:33:21] Handyguy: yeah, cause they are in the mysql database (many anyway)
[00:34:01] Bray90820: so do i also have to purg mysql
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[00:35:11] Handyguy: well, idk for sure. never did that. mysql is a database platform that many different things can use. If you purge mysql you could break something else.
[00:35:38] Bray90820: ugh
[00:36:17] Handyguy: you would probably just want to delete the mythconverg database from mysql as part of a complete removal (if it doesnt do it automagically)
[00:37:16] Bray90820: how would i do that
[00:37:55] Handyguy: you could install an sql query tool and see if there are other database (or do it from command line), if no other dbs then just purge mysql should di the trick. if other dbs then....
[00:38:02] Handyguy: ok, do this......
[00:38:18] Bray90820: im not going to bother
[00:38:18] Handyguy: you SURE you want to delete the mythtv database?
[00:38:25] Bray90820: since i dont even know what that means
[00:38:58] Bray90820: i am sure by the way
[00:39:21] Handyguy: mythtv stores all its stuff in a database, everything except for a few config files and the media files (video,pictures, etc)
[00:39:31] Handyguy: ^^ thats background ^^
[00:39:57] Bray90820: so you dont know how to remove it?
[00:40:03] Handyguy: you can log into the database from the command line
[00:40:05] Handyguy: I do
[00:40:24] Bray90820: do you mind walking me through it
[00:40:27] Bray90820: if not it's ok
[00:40:31] Handyguy: I'm gona try and guide you...
[00:40:56] Bray90820: thank you
[00:41:06] Handyguy: first you will need to know your myswl root password, thats probaboly gona be the hard part.
[00:41:12] Handyguy: mysql
[00:41:17] Handyguy: but maybe not
[00:41:40] Bray90820: how would i get the passwork
[00:41:44] Handyguy: we can try with a user that has su
[00:42:14] Handyguy: brian
[00:42:26] Handyguy: opps, trying out on my system!!!
[00:42:34] Bray90820: so should i use
[00:42:36] Bray90820: sudo su
[00:42:51] Handyguy: hold on....
[00:42:56] Bray90820: ok
[00:43:10] Bray90820: i will be right back
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[00:47:48] Handyguy: bray – for me, my root password is the same as my su users password. ....
[00:48:53] Handyguy: to login to mysql from command line....
[00:48:57] Handyguy: mysql -u root -p
[00:49:08] Handyguy: enter your root password
[00:49:25] Handyguy: to make myth go away type....
[00:49:51] Handyguy: drop schema 'mythconverg';
[00:50:15] Handyguy: it will then blow away everything!!! make sure thats what you want
[00:50:27] Handyguy: its fastm, just a second to do it
[00:51:01] Handyguy: it will keep users and permissions but that shouldnt matter
[00:51:46] Handyguy: oh, and you need to do that from your backend machine
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[00:52:49] Handyguy: -------------------------------
[00:53:35] Handyguy: anyone know what could cause a front end to not be able to play a video from a storage group yet it sees meta data and can play recordings fine. Thanks!
[00:53:39] Handyguy: --------------------------------------------
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[00:55:14] Bray90820: i will have to leave soon tho
[00:55:33] Handyguy: me too, i tyoped the instructons up there ^^^^^
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[00:58:28] Bray90820: that didn't do like anything
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[01:01:35] Bray90820: Handyguy your guide didn't work
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[01:06:54] Handyguy: what didnt work?
[01:07:01] Bray90820: it's saying mysql is having an error
[01:07:43] Handyguy: like it cant login?
[01:07:50] Bray90820: i entered...
[01:07:51] Bray90820: drop schema 'mythconverg';
[01:08:02] Handyguy: and you need that semicolon at the end of the line
[01:08:16] Bray90820: yea i added it
[01:09:00] Bray90820: it says
[01:09:01] Bray90820: You have an error in your SQL syntax
[01:09:13] Handyguy: hmmm, idk. I did the same but dropped a test database
[01:09:25] Handyguy: try without the quotes
[01:09:53] Bray90820: ok
[01:10:27] Handyguy: did it work?
[01:10:33] Bray90820: i think it worked
[01:10:46] Bray90820: it said teh database didn't exist
[01:10:52] Handyguy: no message comes back and its fast
[01:11:03] Bray90820: but i have to go anyways i will be back tho in like 20–30 minutes
[01:11:03] Handyguy: to confirm type.....
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[01:11:10] Handyguy: bye
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[01:24:58] Da_Coynul: pretty soon XBMC is going to be a viable replacement for mythfrontend
[01:27:32] Da_Coynul: tried it last weekend and it worked great with myth .26 backend
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[01:28:03] Da_Coynul: only thing missing is commercial skipping
[01:28:31] Da_Coynul: but that is in the works
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[01:46:02] Bray90820: anyone wanna help me
[01:46:42] Bray90820: i am having some massive mythtv errors so i was going to start fresh wit mythtv
[01:46:50] Bray90820: so i entered...
[01:46:50] Bray90820: mysql -u root -p
[01:47:08] Bray90820: then i typed...
[01:47:08] Bray90820: drop schema 'mythconverg';
[01:47:39] Bray90820: and i get this error
[01:47:40] Bray90820: ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ''mythconverg'' at line 1
[01:49:29] Bray90820: anyone know what's going on?
[01:51:26] clever: names must be quoted with `` not ''
[01:51:58] clever: or not quoted at all
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[01:55:21] Bray90820: clever were you talking to me?
[01:55:28] clever: Bray90820: yes
[01:55:34] Bray90820: what do you mean
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[01:56:08] clever: Bray90820: do drop database mythconverg; instead
[01:56:32] Bray90820: alright i will try that
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[02:02:23] Bray90820: Can't drop database 'mythconverg'; database doesn't exist
[02:02:37] Bray90820: eventho both the front and backends are both installed
[02:03:10] [R]: a program being installed has nothign to do with a database existing
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[02:04:53] Bray90820: ahh
[02:05:00] Bray90820: ahh
[02:05:00] Bray90820: ok
[02:05:07] Bray90820: thank you
[02:05:25] Bray90820: i will be back in a second with another error i am having
[02:05:50] emhs_: So, anyone know if it's at all possible (with additional non-free libraries or some such) to access copy-once or copy-never channels via a cablecard in MythTV?
[02:06:50] wagnerrp: no, open source applications can never access DRM'd material
[02:07:27] emhs_: wagnerrp: So no one has broken the DRM code and illicitly distributed it yet? Pity.
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[02:07:43] [R]: that would be highly illegal
[02:07:49] emhs_: It would, wouldn't it.
[02:07:56] Bray90820: now when i try to start the backend it hangs at using localhost of server
[02:07:57] wagnerrp: on comcast, you should be able to access anything but the premiums
[02:08:18] emhs_: By premiums you mean HBO, showtime and the like?
[02:08:30] wagnerrp: yes
[02:08:39] emhs_: Good. I don't buy those anyway.
[02:08:43] emhs_: Thanks for the info.
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[02:09:09] Bray90820: clever now when i try to start the backend it hangs at using localhost of server
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[02:10:30] Bray90820: actually the message is...
[02:10:41] Bray90820: using local host value of server
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[02:18:20] Bray90820: Anyone know why the backend would hang at using local host value of server
[02:23:54] [R]: enable more verbosity
[02:25:52] Bray90820: R were you talking to me
[02:26:33] [R]: you're the only one talking
[02:30:31] Bray90820: lol
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[02:30:53] Bray90820: what did you meen by that then
[02:31:13] [R]: mythbackend --help
[02:32:08] Bray90820: i should enter
[02:32:12] Bray90820: mythbackend --help
[02:32:18] Bray90820: in the terminal
[02:32:21] Bray90820: ?
[02:35:23] Bray90820: or what
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[02:38:50] Bray90820: well now it's telling me to run the backend because i am 8 versions out of date
[02:39:08] FnC: anyone around and care to help me trouble shoot? I recently set up mythbuntu again, with 2 new hdhomeruns... i was able to recored a single show, but everything else ive scheduled shows recorded but it only 1 min long, but appears to have nothing
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[02:44:10] FnC: this is the only line in the backendlog that looks like something Unknown tuner type = 0xffffffff80000000
[02:44:47] FnC: and then Failed to initialize multiplex options
[02:46:31] Bray90820: thank you to anyone who has helped me
[02:46:41] Bray90820: all my problems seem to be fixed
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[05:34:09] Bray90820: wpuld there be anything wrong with me changing my mythtv database password
[05:39:54] wagnerrp: nope, just make sure you do the appropriate GRANT command to do so
[05:40:31] Bray90820: could i manually change it in the frontend
[05:41:05] wagnerrp: database passwords can only be performed by a user with the necessary privileges
[05:41:13] wagnerrp: and the mythtv account does not have them
[05:41:21] wagnerrp: so mythfrontend cannot make them, even if it were programmed to
[05:41:36] Bray90820: alright
[05:41:39] wagnerrp: understand, your database accounts and your system accounts are completely independent, with no relation to each other
[05:41:49] Bray90820: then i wont bother changing it
[05:42:19] Bray90820: unless it's easy to change
[05:42:41] wagnerrp: to be honest, i've never actually looked up how to delete an old password
[05:42:54] Bray90820: ahh then i wont bother
[05:43:18] wagnerrp: but creating a new one is... GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO 'mythtv'@'127.0.0.1' IDENTIFIED BY '<password>';
[05:43:27] wagnerrp: run from the mysql shell as the root user
[05:43:48] Bray90820: yea im not going to bother
[05:43:51] Bray90820: but thanks anyway
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[05:57:08] Bray90820: do you by any chance know about the mythbox plugin for xbmc
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[06:07:50] Bray90820: it can't connect to mythtv backend
[06:07:55] Bray90820: mythbox that is
[06:08:22] Bray90820: and i think the reason is that in mythtv i put localhost insted of 127.0.0.1
[06:08:27] Bray90820: instead
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[06:12:29] Bray90820: so anyone know
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[06:45:32] Bray90820: Anyone know why i have to use the work localhost instead of 127.0.0.1 when configuringing mythtv
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[06:51:23] Bray90820: word not work
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[07:15:09] rumblebumble: I was looking at Ticket #11159
[07:15:09] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11159 **
[07:15:51] rumblebumble: Just wondering how to tell if this patch has been submitted to 0.26 fixes yet
[07:16:55] rumblebumble: I can see there is a patch against 0.26 and one against master, but how can I tell when it has been submitted
[07:16:57] rumblebumble: thanks
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[08:04:47] toeb: Bray90820: did you check what stuartm said about some distros mapping localhost to something different from 127.0.0.1
[08:05:33] Bray90820: toeb i did not
[08:07:09] Bray90820: the only probelum i am having right now is i have to put the word localhost insted of 127.0.0.1
[08:07:20] Bray90820: it hangs if i put 127.0.0.1
[08:11:41] Bray90820: and i think not being able to use 127.0.0.1 is causing problems for my front end which is on my raspberry pi
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[08:20:42] Shadow__X: Bray90820: you put localhost as the ip for the backend and you are trying to run a frontned on another machine?
[08:36:33] Bray90820: Shadow_X yes
[08:36:41] Bray90820: i try to use 127.0
[08:36:48] Bray90820: 127.0.0.1
[08:37:06] Bray90820: but the hole thing freezes and the computer needs to be restarted
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[08:43:38] Shadow__X: no like the actual ip of the machine
[08:43:53] Shadow__X: the ip you use to access it on the network
[08:49:00] Bray90820: shadow are you saying i put the ip on the frontend
[08:49:15] Bray90820: or do i put the ip on the backend
[08:50:08] Bray90820: shadow_x
[08:50:43] Shadow__X: yes?
[08:51:00] Bray90820: do i put the IP on the front or back end
[08:51:38] Shadow__X: what is the ip of the backend on your network
[08:52:11] Bray90820: 192.168.1.8
[08:53:26] Shadow__X: then put that in the backend setup
[08:54:54] Bray90820: ok
[08:55:08] Bray90820: why did it default to localhost
[08:55:50] Shadow__X: because if you are running a combined backend frontend it will be localhost
[08:56:14] Shadow__X: there are 2 spots on the same setup page that asks for an ip right
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[08:56:48] Bray90820: let me check
[08:58:38] Bray90820: yes
[08:58:46] Bray90820: and apperently they were 127.0.0.1
[08:59:07] Shadow__X: which ones ask for an ip
[08:59:21] Bray90820: on the frontend that is on the same computer as the backend it was localhost
[08:59:32] Bray90820: but both spots had 127.0.0.1
[08:59:39] Shadow__X: right now we are focusing on backend setup only
[09:00:00] Bray90820: ok
[09:00:35] Bray90820: last time i checked the backend had 127.0.0.1 in both spots so i changed then to 192.168.1.8
[09:00:55] Shadow__X: ok so you changed both spots to 192.168.1.8
[09:00:58] Shadow__X: ?
[09:01:10] Bray90820: yes
[09:01:34] Shadow__X: ok there isnt any other places that mention an ip in the backend setup right?
[09:03:58] Bray90820: none that i can find
[09:04:21] Bray90820: should i check if the backend on my other machine works now?
[09:04:46] Shadow__X: you are running 2 backends?
[09:05:00] Bray90820: no
[09:05:16] Bray90820: i was by acadent until like 4 hours ago
[09:05:24] Bray90820: accident
[09:05:42] Bray90820: and it was causing massive stability errors
[09:06:28] Bray90820: wait i am prob confusing you arnt i
[09:06:45] Shadow__X: well i am confused if you actually want 2 backends or just one
[09:06:58] Shadow__X: if you want 2 then one will be the master and the other will be a slave
[09:07:06] Bray90820: i want 1 i ment frontend when i said backend
[09:07:42] Shadow__X: ok so you want to test the frontend now? make sure the ip is 192.168.1.8 in the frontend
[09:08:13] Bray90820: well i entened 192.168.1.8 earlyer in the frontend and it couldn't connect to mysql
[09:09:09] Bray90820: just so you know the frontend is mythbox in xbmc
[09:09:37] Shadow__X: ok
[09:10:01] Bray90820: so should i test the frontend now?
[09:10:43] Shadow__X: sure
[09:10:55] Bray90820: will do
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[16:58:37] lentferj: sometimes I have the problem on my SBE that mythbackend starts before the iface has received it's address via dhcp
[16:58:49] lentferj: then mythbackend stops with
[16:58:52] lentferj: QMulticastSocket: setsockopt – IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP Error
[16:59:19] lentferj: is there any option for mythbackend to keep trying for a certain amount of time on startup?
[16:59:46] lentferj: I mean, if the MBE goes down the SBE will try re-connecting, too
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[18:30:44] tgm4883: lentferj, mythbuntu?
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[18:50:36] lentferj: tgm4883: no, debian squeeze
[18:50:53] tgm4883: lentferj, not sure then
[18:51:16] tgm4883: I was going to suggest editing the upstart job, but IDK what the startup scripts look like for the backend in debian
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[21:07:27] Seeker: Hard drive is dying :(
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[21:53:20] Bray90820: does anyone know why my frontend looses connection with mysql
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[22:06:14] skd5aner: can we automatically filter any conversation on the mailing list or in here the mentions the Raspberry Pi?
[22:06:24] skd5aner: It's getting old... quickly
[22:10:45] jheizer: lol
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[22:18:58] Bray90820: so i am trying to install 0.25 with mythbuntu control center but all that seems to be installing is 0.26
[22:19:08] Bray90820: 0.26 has some playback errors
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[23:16:31] tgm4883: Bray90820, MCC just enables/disables certain repos, It's more than likely you installed 0.26, then removed that repo, activated the 0.25 repo and tried upgrading the package (which 0.26 > 0.25 so that won't work).
[23:16:40] tgm4883: in any case, there isn't enough info there for me to help you
[23:17:08] Bray90820: i have 0.26 installed and i want to remove it and install 0.25
[23:17:39] Bray90820: idk what other information your looking for
[23:18:24] tgm4883: How are you trying to install 0.25?
[23:19:28] Bray90820: well i tried mythbox and the ubuntu software center
[23:19:35] Bray90820: both gave me 0.26
[23:20:43] tgm4883: Did you disable the 0.26 repo?
[23:21:04] Bray90820: i'm not sure
[23:21:22] tgm4883: You selected 0.25 in MCC?
[23:22:09] Bray90820: well i selected 0.26 installed op26 then uninstalled it and selected 0.25 again reinstalled but it was 0.26
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[23:35:11] tgm4883: Bray90820, sorry, had to fix something here
[23:35:31] tgm4883: Bray90820, did you happen to refresh your package list (eg. apt-get update)?
[23:37:37] Bray90820: i did
[23:37:49] Bray90820: waite
[23:37:51] Bray90820: no i didn't
[23:37:56] tgm4883: I know ;)
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[23:42:19] Bray90820: tgm4883 i just tried that and it still is 0.26
[23:42:35] tgm4883: you uninstalled it, updated, and attempted reinstall?
[23:42:39] Bray90820: at least that's what it says when i enter...
[23:42:47] Bray90820: mythbackend --version
[23:43:06] tgm4883: Bray90820, what is the output of 'dpkg -l mythtv-backend'
[23:43:21] Bray90820: with or without the quots
[23:43:30] tgm4883: without
[23:43:38] Bray90820: ok
[23:45:05] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=p7eKueNm
[23:46:02] tgm4883: Bray90820, ok, can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache show mythtv-backend | grep Version'
[23:47:57] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cUUzvtUM
[23:49:07] tgm4883: ok, one last one to pastebin 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythbuntu*'
[23:49:53] tgm4883: err, make that
[23:49:57] tgm4883: ok, one last one to pastebin 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythbuntu*.list'
[23:51:14] Bray90820: ok
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[23:52:26] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BAijSvSU
[23:52:31] Bray90820: and on that note i will brb
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[23:53:05] tgm4883: Bray90820, ok, so when you get back, go into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[23:53:32] tgm4883: find the mythbuntu files with 0.26 (or maybe it's 0_26) in the name, and delete them via 'sudo rm <filename>'
[23:53:39] tgm4883: then apt-get update
[23:53:48] tgm4883: then remove and reinstall the packages
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