MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

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Wednesday, January 2nd, 2013, 00:07 UTC
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[03:20:08] wagnerrp: all forum software should have some mechanism that second-guesses users trying to respond to old threads
[03:20:45] wagnerrp: 87 months has to be some kind of a record... http://www.mythtvtalk.com/no-audio-live-tv-af . . . 0/#post61242
[03:27:00] [R]: lol
[03:27:36] wagnerrp: "Warning: You seem to be suffering from a temporary bout of stupidity. Are you sure you want to post this?"
[03:37:06] [R]: rofl
[03:37:15] [R]: i bet theres a phpbb plugin for that
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[16:54:08] GreyFoxx: n
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[17:24:27] tonsofpcs: anyone know where I can go as a consumer to complain to Tribune about bad data?
[17:25:58] Captain_Murdoch: tonsofpcs, on their website? if you're a SD user, you complain to SD who complains to tribune for you and others in your area. :)
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[17:35:21] skd5aner: tonsofpcs: as Captain_Murdoch, submit a support ticket to schedules direct, they will then represent the issue on your behalf to TMS... they're quite reponsive to help and try and resolve issues
[17:36:40] skd5aner: There is a forum, but they prefer (actually, require) you to use the built-in ticket system that you can access when you log in to your account
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[18:31:16] tmkt: Hey Hey anyone know if BD-E5400 plays nicely with myth?
[18:31:46] tmkt: seems to work via dlna
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[20:48:04] wagnerrp: sphery: wonderful... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Mythfilldata . . . ;oldid=56992
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[21:08:46] tonsofpcs: can I run mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all with a backend running?
[21:09:34] [R]: of course
[21:09:41] [R]: you never stop the backend
[21:09:43] tonsofpcs: thanks :)
[21:09:49] tonsofpcs: setup does...
[21:09:58] [R]: thats bedcause setup changes thigns
[21:10:04] [R]: like tuners
[21:10:07] [R]: which the backend uses
[21:11:48] tonsofpcs: would be nice if mythfilldatabase outputted where it was pulling the data from... hmm...
[21:12:08] [R]: huh?
[21:16:04] FLeiXiuS: tonsofpcs, Pretty sure mythfill will tell you. But most of the time you configure SD...
[21:16:44] tonsofpcs: it tells me what it does, talks about the HTTP POST but doesn't say what server it connects to to pull the data.
[21:17:27] [R]: turn on some verboseness
[21:18:28] sphery: wagnerrp: nice
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[21:21:48] sphery: wagnerrp: btw, what's the verdict on find_orphans.py and 0.26? Specifically for http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/536220#536220 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/536221#536221
[21:22:30] tonsofpcs: wagnerrp: (kinda related) could wikipedia's lowercase title template be stolen for things like that? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tem . . . ;action=edit
[21:31:46] sphery: tonsofpcs: what are you trying to do with mythfilldatabase?
[21:32:02] sphery: tonsofpcs: generally, mythbackend should be running mythfilldatabase for you
[21:32:37] tonsofpcs: sphery: tribune's data was wrong this morning, I wanted to see if it was fixed.
[21:33:13] sphery: ah, well, if your system isn't too underpowered to run --dd-grab-all, you may want to set it up so it always does
[21:33:41] tonsofpcs: I just want tribune to push the data that they are given...
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[21:34:14] sphery: For setting up --dd-grab-all, see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 49416#449416
[21:35:17] john__: hello I have a hopefully short question : my main htpc broke and I had to run my recording of a laptop for a few days, the unfortunately I was not able to use the same mythconverg and now I want to merge the two db's, I guess I just have to append the recorded and recordedprogram tables, how can I do that
[21:36:15] wagnerrp: sphery: if they're not working, i'll take a look them later tonight
[21:39:48] sphery: wagnerrp: I have a feeling it's actually more of a misunderstanding in the case of the "wants to delete 226 shows that still work" or a "the wiki doesn't say 0.26, so I'm assuming it doesn't work" in the case of the other
[21:40:59] sphery: john__: there's no supported way to "merge" multiple MythTV databases... What you should do is use the one that has most of your history (the old one) and then take shows recorded when running on the laptop and stick them in Video Library
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[21:41:28] john__: oh
[21:41:30] john__: yes
[21:41:33] john__: doh
[21:41:34] sphery: john__: then, over time, you may re-record the episodes you recorded during that few days on a laptop, at which point you can delete either the copy in Video library or in Watch Recordings
[21:41:40] john__: I should have thought of that
[21:41:43] john__: its not that many
[21:41:46] john__: thanks
[21:41:51] sphery: yeah, especially since it's not that many :)
[21:41:59] john__: what the best way to export them
[21:42:10] john__: is there a way just to preserve them I no conversion
[21:42:13] sphery: that said, IMHO, anyone who does anything more than watch and delete recordings (i.e. if you archive recordings) should be moving them to Video Library
[21:42:22] sphery: the UI is much better for managing a large collection of video
[21:42:42] sphery: yeah, no export necessary--just copy the files over to a Videos Storage Group directory and re-scan
[21:42:44] john__: the laptop has an atom inside so I really dont want to do re-encoding
[21:43:03] sphery: ideally, you'll run mythlink.pl on the laptop to create "useful" file names
[21:43:09] john__: but how will it no what they are ? or will the export on the laptop rename them ?
[21:43:17] sphery: and then use a copy that dereferences the link to give the file the good name
[21:43:39] john__: kind of like mythlinks !
[21:43:47] sphery: yeah
[21:43:53] john__: doh yes I should have come up with that.... thanks a mile
[21:44:03] john__: lets see if I can get it to work... :D
[21:44:07] john__: bye
[21:44:12] sphery: john__: something like: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/531638#531638
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[21:44:15] sphery: good luck
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[21:54:50] sphery: skd5aner: is this saying this is a dup? it seems to contradict what you said. http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11261#comment:1
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[22:38:07] skd5aner: sphery: no... he's saying his problem was fixed with #11079, I'm saying mine isn't
[22:38:07] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11079 **
[22:38:34] skd5aner: sphery: those changes were applied and backported, and I still get the same issue... so, I wish that guy really wouldn't have put that on my ticket
[22:39:10] skd5aner: sphery: read the last line of my original bug report
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[22:41:29] Unguided: hello all. Im setting up mythbuntu in vbox for the first time "dry run." Once I get the hdhr primes setup, will I be able to see live tv with out a schedules direct membership?
[22:41:55] skd5aner: sphery: I will go test again, however
[22:42:26] Unguided: schedules direct only provides the epg data correct?
[22:42:28] earthworm: Anyone know why mythtv can't get a channel lock for me all of a sudden? I'm using a PlayTV DVBT tuner, it's worked fine before.
[22:42:47] [R]: earthworm: bad signal
[22:42:57] sphery: skd5aner: yeah, I got that you were saying those changes didn't help you, but was confused since a) he says his works with those changes and b) I wasn't exactly sure what he was trying to say/add to the ticket
[22:43:07] earthworm: My signal is pretty crappy, but it always worked okay before now
[22:43:19] earthworm: I've plugged in to a booster as well
[22:43:31] skd5aner: sphery: seems to actually be working for me right now?
[22:43:38] skd5aner: sphery: well, maybe...
[22:43:45] sphery: Unguided: getting the HDHR Prime set up without Schedules Direct is much more difficult than just doing it right in the first place
[22:43:45] skd5aner: not getting the same error
[22:43:58] sphery: Unguided: There's also a 7-day free trial at Schedules Direct, so why not use that for the test
[22:44:21] sphery: Unguided: oh, and setting up in a VM is likely to add complexity, too... but if you feel you must
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[22:44:43] sphery: earthworm: also could be changes to the transmissions... might need a channel rescan
[22:44:47] skd5aner: Unguided: yea – use the free trial SD has... but, in theory... yes, you could attempt to do it without SD, but it'd be kinda painful
[22:45:47] Unguided: Because it is a a virtual machine so I can learn what I am doing. Im totally new to *nix. All I was trying to do is see if i can "see" live tv and change channels. I dont even know how to add drives to the system etc.
[22:46:26] Unguided: I didnt want to hose the real machine right off the bat
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[22:48:31] _klk_: hi all. not sure if this is the best place to ask this question. i'm wondering if there's a STB on the market with a tuner for ATSC/QAM and outputs via HDMI, and has some way of controlling the tuner without a remote (e.g. web API)
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[22:48:39] skd5aner: sphery: getting past my original error, but ffmpeg bombs out immediately
[22:48:46] Unguided: sphery: the frontends dont do any recording right? I didnt mean my last post to sound like a smart ass. I just wanted to run through the install so I knew what to expect etc.
[22:49:23] sphery: Unguided: backends record, frontends display
[22:49:30] earthworm: sphery, Just did a rescan mate, splatted my database by mistake so setting up all over again  :(
[22:49:32] earthworm: Argh!
[22:50:02] Unguided: sphery: Thats what I thought. Did you see my response to your response?
[22:50:08] earthworm: I've added all the channels found to my DB, then run that SQL script that reorders the channels for UK freeview
[22:50:12] sphery: earthworm: perhaps I should have mentioned the "always remember to back up the database before any major changes to settings or configuration" :)
[22:50:38] earthworm: I did and then formatted over it like a tw@t, lol
[22:50:48] sphery: oops
[22:51:10] earthworm: I now have BBC 1 on there twice, both are channel number 1, and I've tried to set the first to not visible
[22:51:28] earthworm: Is it by any chance picking up the first anyway and trying to tune to that?
[22:51:45] sphery: could be... try deleting the bad one?
[22:52:10] earthworm: Trouble is being sure that IS that bad one  :)
[22:52:25] earthworm: I wanted to enable one, then the other to prove which was best
[22:52:29] sphery: hehe, I'm a few thousand miles too far to help you on that one
[22:52:58] earthworm: It'd be really really nice if MythTV looked and signal strength and just picked the best one for you and ignored duplicates
[22:56:42] earthworm: Balls, it was just using the 1st one
[22:56:56] earthworm: Oh well, know what to do now
[22:57:12] earthworm: Stupid Yorkshire facing TV arial
[22:59:03] earthworm: How do you actually delete a channel anyway?
[22:59:19] earthworm: I can only see a delete ALL channels button
[22:59:42] Unguided: sphery: how do i add drives to the system? What I am trying to do is install to one hard drive. then add other hdd's to record to.
[23:00:29] earthworm: Unguided, look in the storage groups page of settings
[23:00:40] skd5aner: sphery: #11261 can be closed – I can't replicate the error anymore
[23:00:40] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11261 **
[23:00:42] earthworm: You can add whatever folders of whatever drives
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[23:01:10] skd5aner: sphery: although ffmpeg is broken again and it wants all new command line switches than what nuvexport is trying for h.264 :P
[23:01:18] sphery: skd5aner: thanks for the update...
[23:01:26] sphery: and, yeah, of course :)
[23:01:50] skd5aner: so, it's still just as "broke" but at least I might be able to do something about it – at least for my case
[23:01:58] sphery: skd5aner: pick your resolution... invalid, dup, ?
[23:02:02] sphery: fixed?
[23:02:24] skd5aner: sphery: put as dupe... since it liekly was related...
[23:02:25] sphery: works for me
[23:02:30] sphery: (though "me" would mean you :)
[23:02:32] Unguided: ok. earthworm: I dont have to tell ubuntu they exist like you do windows?
[23:02:36] sphery: ok, thanks
[23:02:53] Unguided: earthworm: I dont have to tell ubuntu they exist like you do windows?
[23:03:15] skd5aner: Might have been a weird library mismatch or something going on, although I'm usually vigilant about that stuff – especially when bugsl ike this happen
[23:04:04] skd5aner: Beirdo: ping?
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[23:09:58] earthworm: Unguided, when you install, you tell it where to mount the drives, so on mine I have /mediasda /mediasdb and so on
[23:10:14] earthworm: You can add more when you want
[23:11:15] Unguided: earthworm. I was gonna install with just the install hard drive. then go back and add the media drives after. to learn.
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[23:11:48] Unguided: earthworm: I was gonna install with just the install hard drive. then go back and add the media drives after. to learn.
[23:12:32] earthworm: That's probably okay, yeah
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[23:12:51] earthworm: They'll be a setting somewhere to set where it mounts the new one
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[23:13:29] Unguided: ok. I will try that. thanks. Thats why I set up the virtual machine
[23:15:23] earthworm: I had changed some setting or other before to allow my 2 tuners to both be used for recording, can anyone help me remember what it might have been?
[23:16:00] ** skd5aner goes to hack at some perl with a huge, dull machette **
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[23:18:00] wookey: Hi guys – when I use mythfrontend on my laptop it works nicely except that the sound is quite often just white noise instead of the sound.
[23:18:30] wookey: sometimes it starts playing like that, sometimes is goes from working to kshhhhhhhhhhhhhh in mid-play
[23:18:49] wookey: the client is 0.25.2-dmo3 on debian wheezy
[23:19:21] wookey: the server is 0.25.1-dmo3 on wheezy
[23:19:37] wookey: video works fine. Any clues as to what might be amiss?
[23:19:51] earthworm: Pulseaudio did that to me the other day, had to change to ALSA annoyingly
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[23:24:37] wookey: I appear to be already using alsa.
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