| Tuesday, January 1st, 2013, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | kusznir: I use K9Copy ;-) |
| [00:01:54] | kusznir: | [R] dvdbackup man page indicates it does not result in .iso's of dvds...I'd still have to genisofs or something to get back to that.. |
| [00:02:21] | [R]: | hrm |
| [00:02:24] | kusznir: | J-e-f-f-A: Ok, I looked at some writeups of that online, it was unclear how it works. Does it generate an .iso or just files? |
| [00:02:24] | [R]: | could have sworn it did |
| [00:02:35] | [R]: | regardless... making an iso is easy |
| [00:02:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | kusznir: it can do either. |
| [00:02:55] | kusznir: | Ok, thanks, more to look at! |
| [00:03:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | kusznir: it's got a command-line interface, and a gui 'assistant'. Works well IMHO. |
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| [00:07:18] | kusznir: | Just out of curiosity, will myth video be able to deal with a .VOB file from a dvd extract? |
| [00:07:23] | wagnerrp: | seems like it would be fairly simple to write a utility that would one or the other, and dump the result in a remote storage group |
| [00:07:29] | wagnerrp: | *would use |
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| [00:14:12] | duke_ellington: | I'm having trouble getting my PVR 500 tuner card to work in MythTV. If I try to change the channel in LiveTV, the frontend freezes up, goes black and drops back to the menu with "video frame buffer failed too many times". I also noticed once mythtv has accessed the tuners I can no longer view them properly with VLC. VLC will skip, buffer and the picture sometimes scrambled. Rebooting |
| [00:14:12] | duke_ellington: | or reloading the ivtv module fixes this. Any ideas? I'm using Arch. |
| [00:17:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: MythTV assumes exclusive access to the tuners you have defined btw. So trying to use them when MythTV has them defined is a no-no. |
| [00:19:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: I used a 500 and a 250 for several years before switching to HD. But always used external tuners (Satellite SD boxes) that fed s-video and stereo audio into the PVR-xxx tuners. |
| [00:19:16] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: I've only tried viewing them before and after not when mythtv is using them. |
| [00:19:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: So, you have cable TV service that offers Analog channels I take it? |
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| [00:21:23] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: Yeah analog cable from cox. There are a few few local station in digital too. |
| [00:21:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: If that's the case, you have to make sure it's defined right in MythTV – (used to be IVTV, now I think is MPEG 2 Hardware encoder), plus the channel frequency table set to US Cable. |
| [00:21:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | You can't tune digital with a 500 – Analog only. |
| [00:22:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: After you do that, you'll have to scan for channels as you're doing Analog. |
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| [00:24:18] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: I used the listings service to get the channels imported. channel scanning doesn't work for me. It just zips past and says it couldn't find anything. |
| [00:25:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: so schedulesdirect ? |
| [00:25:12] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: yes |
| [00:26:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: Ok, so do you have both tuners setup as IVTV (might be 'Mpeg 2 Hardware encoder' now)... ? |
| [00:26:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: and the channel-frequency table setup to US Cable ? |
| [00:27:12] | duke_ellington: | yes |
| [00:28:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | Humm... Does your channel listing show any of the analog channels? — and I'm assuming you setup your SD account for the Analog channels, not digital. |
| [00:29:38] | duke_ellington: | I can view the initial chnnel when I start livetv. sometimes I can get lucky and change the channel maybe once without fail but, its slow. yes, all my channels are listed in the channel editor. |
| [00:31:34] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: Capture card type is set to 'MPEG-2 encoder card' for both /dev/video0 and /dev/video1. |
| [00:31:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: Ok, so it's working 'somewhat'... It may be a bug – I dunno – as I'm not sure Analog tuning has gotten much love in a while... And LiveTV is less-than-perfect, but Myth is designed to be a PVR, so little attention has been given to LiveTV. |
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| [00:33:35] | monkeypet: | i find LiveTV to be acceptable for my limited usage. |
| [00:35:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: Maybe try changing the channel-frequency table to one of the other "US Cable" choices – I think there's -hrc and -irc — maybe try each of those in turn and/or increasing the tuning timout? |
| [00:35:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | *timeout |
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| [00:38:11] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: alright I'll give it try here real quick. |
| [00:39:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | monkeypet: What tuner types? It times out most of the time with my HD-PVRs. |
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| [00:42:01] | ZeKoU: | Hi ...I am interested about mythtv support for TV card tuners ... |
| [00:42:27] | wagnerrp: | interested in... developing support? |
| [00:42:38] | wagnerrp: | erm, nevermind, got confused on the channel |
| [00:42:47] | wagnerrp: | anyway, ask your question |
| [00:42:54] | wagnerrp: | we can't answer until we have one |
| [00:43:01] | ZeKoU: | I have ASUS card, and not being able to use it under linux is the only reason why I still have Windows on that box |
| [00:43:26] | wagnerrp: | while there are a few exceptions, mythtv does not directly support tuner cards |
| [00:43:37] | wagnerrp: | we just support the standard Linux capture APIs |
| [00:43:53] | wagnerrp: | and the linuxtv project takes care of writing the drivers |
| [00:43:57] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: I don't know if this helps, but before things go wrong. the verbose from mythfrontend scrolls with Waited XXXXXms for video buffers. |
| [00:44:28] | wagnerrp: | if your tuner card is not currently supported under Linux, they're the people you need to talk to for more information |
| [00:44:47] | ZeKoU: | wagnerrp: linuxtv – thanks....I am have just begin investigating my options... |
| [00:44:57] | wagnerrp: | what tuner card, specifically? |
| [00:45:05] | ZeKoU: | let me check... |
| [00:45:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: Can you schedule recordings on those tuners and everything works ok? |
| [00:47:36] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: I haven't tried recording anything yet. I was more intreseted in the livetv part. |
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| [00:48:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: if LiveTV is what you want, then Myth probably isn't the best choice. It is optimized as a PVR (think TiVo), not for live TV. Everything gets recorded, so when you're watching LiveTV, you're actually ~3 seconds behind Live. |
| [00:52:03] | ZeKoU: | wagnerrp: ASUSTek Tiger Hybrid Capture device |
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| [00:54:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | ZeKoU: according to linuxtv.org, it seems to be supported in Linux: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa713x_devices – do you have a /dev/dvb/adapter0 directory? |
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| [01:01:14] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: I've already been using it tunerless for about 3 years as a media center. I only recently have I tried add a tuner. I liked the idea of distrubuting the cabletv through the home network to different frontends and I thought the program guide was pretty neat. |
| [01:01:44] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: changing freq-table and capture timeout had no effect. |
| [01:02:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: Ah. Well, once you get used to using it as a PVR, you'll never use LiveTV again. ;-) |
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| [01:06:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: What version of MythTV btw? I'm still running 0.25 on my backend, and it works fine with LiveTV on my backend, but one of my frontends times out. But since i basically never watch LiveTV, I javem |
| [01:06:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | ... haven't made an issue of it. |
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| [01:07:50] | duke_ellington: | 0.26 |
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| [01:12:29] | duke_ellington: | J-e-f-f-A: Maybe I'll get luck and it will be fixed in the next release or some system update. |
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| [01:16:44] | duke_ellington: | Anyway, Thanks for the help. Have a Happy New Year. |
| [01:21:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | duke_ellington: no problemo. I don't know if it's "broken" in 0.26 or maybe just for Analog tuning... it's working with HD-PVR and digital tuners here for me on 0.25-fixes though. |
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| [02:56:38] | Unguided: | Hello all. Is myth multithreaded? |
| [02:57:28] | [R]: | very much so |
| [02:58:21] | Unguided: | Wasnt sure. Thank you. I know it is 64bit and assumed it was multithreaded. |
| [02:58:52] | [R]: | its not 32bit or 64bit... its just code |
| [02:59:17] | Unguided: | OK. |
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| [03:42:38] | wagnerrp: | it's whatever bittage you compile it to |
| [03:44:29] | ertyu-m: | I'd like 1 please |
| [03:45:02] | wagnerrp: | you'll need to provide your own gcc backend |
| [03:45:41] | ertyu-m: | sure thing, but I think I'll only support 3 instructions |
| [03:46:14] | wagnerrp: | ooh! RISCy... |
| [03:46:42] | wagnerrp: | although, can you actually be turing complete with just three instructions? |
| [03:47:31] | ertyu-m: | I seem to recall you can do it with 2 |
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| [03:49:57] | Unguided: | wagnerrp: Thank you. Im finally installing pcbsd in vbox to leran. installing myth now |
| [03:50:23] | Unguided: | Only testing though. Not the live machine |
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| [04:25:16] | DouglasK: | Question ... I can record and play recordings, but if I try to watch Live TV, it says it cannot connect to the backend. |
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| [04:27:37] | [R]: | the backend is probably crashing |
| [04:27:41] | [R]: | what do the logs say |
| [04:28:24] | DouglasK: | checking... |
| [04:31:40] | Oleg_: | the New Year will arrive in less than 30 minutes on the East Coast |
| [04:33:21] | DouglasK: | Oleg_, thanks |
| [04:33:42] | DouglasK: | [R] I see no activity on the backend log when I try to play live TV. |
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| [04:33:54] | [R]: | is it crashing? |
| [04:34:59] | DouglasK: | Hm. Nope... same process ID after trying to watch TV and failing. |
| [04:35:23] | [R]: | weird |
| [04:35:25] | [R]: | what versino |
| [04:37:39] | DouglasK: | "2:0.25.2+fixes.20120802.46cab93–0ubuntu1.12.10" from apt |
| [04:40:07] | [R]: | thats pretty old |
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| [04:40:45] | DouglasK: | Hm. I'll find a repository that's more current and add it. |
| [04:40:57] | DouglasK: | Thanks! |
| [04:41:18] | DouglasK: | I'm also thinking I'll go and watch local midnight on the Tele, then get back to this in a few. |
| [04:42:26] | DouglasK: | Say, is there a good ubuntu ppa you can point me at for a more current version? |
| [04:42:53] | purserj: | /win 2 |
| [04:42:55] | purserj: | sigh sorry |
| [04:43:13] | DouglasK: | No worries. :) |
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| [04:44:20] | purserj: | hey quick question, what's the TTL for livetv recordings in 0.26? |
| [04:44:53] | [R]: | a day i think |
| [04:45:05] | [R]: | theres a setting i believ |
| [04:45:30] | purserj: | ah okay, I might hunt it down |
| [04:45:57] | purserj: | it's been playing up a bit for me, expiring them only after an hour or so |
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| [07:23:48] | ejohnson_: | i am getting this error pn my mythbuntu server when I try to connect my xbmc client "Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 72" |
| [07:24:00] | ejohnson_: | mythtv version is 0.25 [v0.25.3-25-g18c793a] |
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| [07:48:16] | DouglasK: | ejohnson_, I had similar, updated to mythtv 0.26.x and it works now. |
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| [11:55:54] | dekarl: | DouglasKAway: try the mythbuntu repos... e.g. enable fixes/0.26 in mythbuntucontrolcenter or via http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
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| [14:24:31] | kslater: | can someone with an HD-PVR check the values for contrast, brightness, colour and hue in capturecard? I seem to remember those used to have values, but I have 0 for all of those fields now. |
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| [14:39:04] | Unguided: | Happy new year all. I was wondering if anyone has their myth server running with storage on say a freenas box? |
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| [16:39:20] | Ede_k: | Happy new year to everyone! |
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| [16:41:42] | Ede_k: | I am new to mythtv and have a problem. If I add my Card Technotrend s2–3600 in the mythtv-setup, my Card gets some kind of detach from the system. |
| [16:42:06] | Ede_k: | dmesg shows: dvb-usb: bulk message failed: -19 (11/0) |
| [16:42:06] | Ede_k: | dvb-usb: bulk message failed: -19 (10/0) |
| [16:43:18] | Ede_k: | scan works. System is Centos 6.3 kernel 3.7.1 mythtv 0.25.3 |
| [16:43:29] | Ede_k: | Any help would be welcome :-) |
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| [16:45:21] | dmfrey: | Captain_Murdoch, ping |
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| [16:46:19] | dmfrey: | Captain_Murdoch, couple of questions about the /Content live stream endpoints |
| [16:48:01] | dekarl: | Ede_k: the internet says you should update the cards firmware http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/dvb-karten- . . . post-3340137 (only in german) |
| [16:49:13] | Ede_k: | dekarl, Thank you! But I am on the newest firmware, the windows tool tells me... :-) |
| [16:50:02] | Ede_k: | of course I googled and found that, before asking here :-) |
| [16:50:27] | dekarl: | thats not so good then :( |
| [16:51:29] | Ede_k: | hehe :-) |
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| [18:57:31] | Igramul: | Hi, I am new to mythtv. I just set up the backend on my home server and I'm currently updating my living-room-PC to ubuntu12.04lts in order to install a compatible frontend. |
| [18:57:46] | Igramul: | Can all backend configuration be done via the frontend? |
| [18:58:16] | [R]: | you can ssh -X to the backedn |
| [18:58:18] | [R]: | and run it that way |
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| [18:59:10] | Igramul: | [R]: that way I ran mythtv-setup |
| [18:59:24] | Igramul: | Is it save to re-run it? |
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| [19:00:10] | [R]: | you acn run it as many times as you want |
| [19:00:32] | Igramul: | ok, but it will kill the backend process, right? |
| [19:01:33] | [R]: | not unless a) you tell it b) its set up to properly do it |
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| [19:01:43] | [R]: | unless you use ubuntu |
| [19:01:45] | [R]: | then it automatically does it |
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| [19:03:20] | Igramul: | I use ubuntu... |
| [19:03:46] | Kuhne: | Hi all, I'm having a problem with Airplay which I can't seem to find any information on the net about. The RAOP server seems not to be able to get the IPv6 address, I get the following error in the logs: Failed listening on TCP [fe80::e269:95ff:fe53:236c%eth0]:5000 – Error 9: The address is not available |
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| [19:04:58] | Kuhne: | It then tries to register on an ever higher port until it finds one. And the clients cannot connect to anything other than 5100... |
| [19:06:17] | jarle: | Any suggestions for a PnP/DNLA android app that works good with mythtv? |
| [19:06:22] | Igramul: | Kuhne: Are You sure You want the service on the ipv6-link-local address? |
| [19:06:41] | [R]: | jarle: therse like 2 on the app store... and tehy use HLS |
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| [19:07:45] | Kuhne: | Igramul: doesn't really matter, I've been unsuccessful trying to change it. I would just like to get it working. Any ideas? |
| [19:07:57] | jarle: | [R]: tried MediaHouse, did not seem to work, was just endlessly browsing without actually displaying any content. |
| [19:08:07] | [R]: | never heard of that |
| [19:08:14] | [R]: | theres tons of discussion about it on the mythtv mailniglists |
| [19:09:06] | jarle: | [R]: my new Asus transformer tablet came with a very good app that seems to be Asus only, on not able to find it on the app store :( |
| [19:09:16] | [R]: | like i said |
| [19:09:18] | [R]: | youd ont want dnla |
| [19:09:23] | [R]: | you want the myth apps that use HLS |
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| [19:09:38] | jarle: | [R]: ok.. |
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| [19:13:38] | kslater: | jarle: I've used http streaming with my Android tablet and it seems to work pretty well. Never had much luck with any of the various Android DNLA |
| [19:13:55] | kslater: | jarle: which app do you use on the TF-201 to do DNLA? |
| [19:14:52] | kslater: | I suppose it doesn't matter that much since I've put down a CM-10 release and lost the pre-installed packages already. |
| [19:15:48] | jarle: | kslater: I've got the new TF300T and that came with an app called "Mittnett" (norwegain title meaning "mynet) |
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| [19:16:08] | jarle: | kslater: it works flawlessly |
| [19:16:27] | kslater: | ah, I'll have to see if that's on my old boss's TF700 and see if I can lift it from there. |
| [19:17:47] | DouglasKAway is now known as DouglasK | |
| [19:19:08] | DouglasK: | btw, MythTV feeding into XBMC is nice. Works a treat. :) |
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| [19:20:51] | kslater: | DouglasK: what do you have running XBMC? |
| [19:21:22] | kslater: | We have an old (original) Xbox. Maybe I should hack it to run XBMC? |
| [19:21:58] | kslater: | gathering dust otherwise |
| [19:22:00] | wagnerrp: | absolutely not |
| [19:22:09] | wagnerrp: | XBMC hasn't run on original xboxes for years |
| [19:22:14] | kslater: | ah |
| [19:22:15] | AndyCap: | kslater: it's not exactly a powerhouse either |
| [19:22:17] | DouglasK: | kslater: I'm running xbmc on a zotac zbox ad-10. |
| [19:22:21] | kslater: | not surprised |
| [19:22:41] | kslater: | DouglasK: what're the specs of that box? |
| [19:22:52] | DouglasK: | kslater, I don't think they support xbmc on the original xbox anymore. |
| [19:23:45] | kslater: | $200 for that box at Walmart? They sell them at Walmart? |
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| [19:24:43] | DouglasK: | kslater, Dual core AMD 1.6Ghz cpu, Radeon HD 6310, 2Gb RAM, 320Gb disc, HDMI output, 2xusb2, 2xusb3, displayport output, eSata available. Size: 5"x5"x1.77". |
| [19:26:06] | DouglasK: | Oh, and I have a WinTV-HVR 850 plugged in. OS is Lubuntu. |
| [19:26:26] | kslater: | Lubuntu? |
| [19:26:35] | kslater: | Lawyer Ubuntu? |
| [19:26:40] | kslater: | Layman Ubuntu? |
| [19:27:06] | DouglasK: | xbmc sometimes has issues with versions of ubuntu using a compositing window manager. xubuntu and lubuntu don't. I think it might stand for light ubuntu, not sure. |
| [19:27:21] | DouglasK: | xubuntu is the lightest you'll find on specs. |
| [19:27:25] | kslater: | light ubuntu |
| [19:27:28] | kslater: | that's good |
| [19:27:31] | [R]: | its lxde |
| [19:27:45] | kslater: | whereas xubuntu is xde? |
| [19:27:49] | [R]: | xfce |
| [19:28:19] | DouglasK: | I went that way because I wanted a full linux system under xbmc. going with OpenElec works out of the box, but the linux base it's on is not normal. |
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| [19:54:09] | Kuhne: | Should you be able to use the photo app on an iPad to display photos on a mythtv frontend with AirPlay? |
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| [20:02:36] | Kuhne: | Apparently not. Found my answer :) |
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| [20:57:43] | Unguided: | Happy new year everyone. Quick question. Can all of my htpcs be backends and frontends? |
| [20:58:26] | [R]: | sure |
| [20:58:29] | [R]: | why would you want to |
| [21:00:41] | Unguided: | In case one goes down and I was thinking it might be easier to put multiple had's into each htpc and share them that way. It was just a thought. Im trying to not use virtualization. So tryin to share teh work across multiple htpcs instead of one backend with all the drives |
| [21:01:08] | Unguided: | *had's should have been hdd's |
| [21:01:09] | [R]: | myth dosent work that way |
| [21:01:33] | Unguided: | Okay. So backend has to have all of the drives? |
| [21:01:35] | [R]: | but you can have multiple slave backends |
| [21:01:37] | [R]: | each with tuners |
| [21:02:09] | [R]: | and i suppose you could nfs mount where you want to put your recordings |
| [21:02:48] | Unguided: | That was the next question. Could I set the recordings to go to a freenas share? |
| [21:03:05] | [R]: | myth needs a directory |
| [21:03:07] | [R]: | what that directory is |
| [21:03:09] | [R]: | is irrelvent |
| [21:04:48] | Unguided: | Ok. I had it in my head that all the directories had to be physically on the backend. That was throwing a monkey wrench in what I was trying to do. |
| [21:05:13] | [R]: | directories are dierctories |
| [21:05:15] | [R]: | linux doesnt care |
| [21:05:38] | Unguided: | Any benefit to using ssd in the frontends? |
| [21:06:21] | [R]: | um |
| [21:06:24] | [R]: | sure |
| [21:06:27] | [R]: | if you like to waste money |
| [21:07:21] | Unguided: | Just checking. I can not find reccomended system requirements for the backend in the wiki. What am I missing? |
| [21:08:27] | [R]: | there isn't? |
| [21:08:49] | [R]: | it'll run on wahtever you throw it at |
| [21:08:56] | [R]: | although flagging and transcode may take ages to run |
| [21:09:07] | [R]: | and of course if its too crappy that the scheduler can't even run, then thats pretty bad too |
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| [21:11:37] | Unguided: | Ok. That helped me out. I have two quad cores and two octacores. I also have four hdhr primes. I was trying to figure out which proc to use. I think the octacore would serve me best. Sorry for dumb questions. Im still trying to figure out what I am doing. |
| [21:13:41] | Unguided: | And I think local storage on the backend would be best for flagging etc. Would you agree? |
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| [21:15:27] | justinh: | local storage is always a better idea than networked |
| [21:16:31] | justinh: | as far as commercial flagging is concerned.. AFAIK it'll only use one CPU per recording being flagged |
| [21:16:52] | Unguided: | I was trying to put the backend on a stand alone server. But if the living room htpc is gonna run all the time, I can make that the backend/frontend with local storage instead of having a separate backend server in my basement. I think I have been over complicating things. I should have listened to wagnerrp but I didnt understand what he was saying to me |
| [21:18:02] | Unguided: | once myth goes back to remove the commercials then it will use more than one core right? |
| [21:18:10] | justinh: | no |
| [21:18:23] | justinh: | not as far as I know anyway |
| [21:18:41] | justinh: | only playback is multithreaded. commflagging isn't. As far as I'm aware |
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| [21:19:33] | Unguided: | ok. wagnerrp recommended vdpau capable vid cards so I should be able to use a dual core with no problems right? |
| [21:20:04] | justinh: | I dunno |
| [21:20:27] | justinh: | I don't do any of that 'HD' stuff |
| [21:21:34] | Unguided: | Fair enough. wagnerrp told me that both of my myth boxes could work together to remove comm but I did nt ask any questions so Im really not sure how that happens |
| [21:22:00] | justinh: | what I'm saying is.. depends what you mean by 'dual core' – and depends what kind of video you get over the cable |
| [21:22:17] | justinh: | but in the main VDPAU should cope with all your decoding |
| [21:22:41] | justinh: | and there's nothing broadcast which a fairly modern dual core CPU can't deal with should VDPAU be a problem |
| [21:23:42] | justinh: | I'm not sure how commflagging jobs would be distributed either. Only one backend |
| [21:24:04] | justinh: | God, I totally don't even believe in tv anymore. Heh |
| [21:24:14] | justinh: | the shite my wife watches puts me off |
| [21:26:11] | wagnerrp: | Unguided: commercial flagging is a batch task |
| [21:26:18] | wagnerrp: | each task gets put into a common queue |
| [21:26:28] | wagnerrp: | and you can have multiple machines pulling tasks out of that queue |
| [21:26:44] | wagnerrp: | you cannot commercial flag a single recording in a distributed manner |
| [21:27:04] | wagnerrp: | but you can be running multiple commercial flagging jobs simultaneously across several machines |
| [21:27:38] | wagnerrp: | as for the server, you're planning on having a lot of storage, and a lot of stuff running on this machine |
| [21:27:57] | wagnerrp: | so even if you don't have a beefy process, you are still going to be physically large hot due to all those drives |
| [21:28:08] | wagnerrp: | most people don't want a big machine in their living room |
| [21:28:17] | wagnerrp: | so you make a dedicated server somewhere out of the day |
| [21:28:29] | wagnerrp: | and a dedicated frontend in your living room, that can be turned on or off at will |
| [21:28:58] | Unguided: | Ok. Did you see my earlier posts? |
| [21:29:27] | wagnerrp: | no, just read the immediate backlog |
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| [21:30:07] | Unguided: | Ok. I think I was way over complicating things and didnt hear you the first time. Im sorry for that. |
| [21:30:11] | wagnerrp: | two octocores? xeon-exs or magny-cours? |
| [21:30:35] | wagnerrp: | justinh: commercial flagging is at least dual core |
| [21:30:42] | justinh: | really? |
| [21:30:53] | justinh: | I didn't think it was multihtreaded yet |
| [21:30:59] | justinh: | I stand corrected then :-) |
| [21:31:24] | wagnerrp: | i know ive seen it max out my systems, and the most i have is dual core systems |
| [21:32:45] | Unguided: | I maxed out my dual core last night just watching HD football but the vid card is not vdpau and it was on windows. Hardly comparing apples to apples |
| [21:33:23] | wagnerrp: | then something was wrong, or that was a very old processor |
| [21:33:32] | wagnerrp: | (or a dual core atom) |
| [21:33:52] | wagnerrp: | ATSC (HD MPEG2) decoding is fairly trivial for any halfway modern processor |
| [21:33:57] | justinh: | unless it was HD football rendered by Adobe Felch |
| [21:34:08] | justinh: | er Flash sorry |
| [21:34:14] | Unguided: | I stand corrected. I wasnt just watching HD football. I had something else going on as well. Sorry |
| [21:34:25] | wagnerrp: | no, they are |
| [21:34:27] | wagnerrp: | very much so |
| [21:36:04] | Unguided: | wagerrp: Thats why I was goona use a network share for the directories. I could then just put one hdd in the living room and the rest in the basement |
| [21:36:29] | wagnerrp: | if you've got everything else in the basement, why not put the backend down there too? |
| [21:37:00] | Unguided: | In my think skull I hadnt thought of that yet :) |
| [21:37:32] | Unguided: | *thick |
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| [21:40:10] | Unguided: | And I was trying to combine a bunch of different servers into one box |
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| [21:43:32] | wagnerrp: | all the more reason not to stuff a heavily loaded machine into your living room |
| [21:44:55] | Unguided: | I agree with you now. I just had to leran the hard way :) |
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| [21:46:00] | justinh: | or if one machine can cope with it all, have it under the lounge & run wires up there :-) |
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| [21:47:26] | Unguided: | yeah. I have bugged the hell out of wagnerrp asking all kinds of questions. Probably drinking by now :) |
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| [23:47:45] | k-man: | any suggestions regarding hardware suitable as a frontend? something silent preferably. and small |
| [23:48:21] | [R]: | tons of discussions about that on the mailing list |
| [23:48:28] | [R]: | theres pages on the wiki where peopl talk about their hardware |
| [23:50:53] | k-man: | thanks [R] |
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