| Monday, December 17th, 2012, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:09] | justinh: | I was saying nothing I'd put myself through the inconvenience of dist-upgrading for |
| [00:00:18] | justinh: | different world, those ;-) |
| [00:00:44] | justinh: | I've not spend enough time with the new incarnation of mythmusic to figure out how the hell it works yet |
| [00:02:02] | dekarl: | I didn't intend to suggest that these were your words. I just thought I might toot the "0.26 is great" horn again for all the bystanders :D |
| [00:02:48] | dekarl: | Ohh, no smolt to quickly get some 0.25 vs. 0.26 adoption number? |
| [00:03:27] | ** wagnerrp pokes jams ** | |
| [00:04:35] | justinh: | when the majority of stuff just works for me I'm rarely in a big hurry to update these days |
| [00:04:57] | justinh: | it wasn't so bad before the kids came along ;-) |
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| [00:12:47] | dekarl: | justinh: you aren't running with the patch applied since last december by any chance? Might as well push it to fixes/0.25 if its tested. its not as if the change is super complex ;) |
| [00:13:55] | jams: | it's running now |
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| [00:16:50] | dekarl: | ty |
| [00:17:17] | justinh: | dekarl: I can't remember what I'm running on my backend code-wise |
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| [00:25:19] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: fairly low, less than 7% |
| [00:25:32] | dekarl: | hmm, last update 2012-11–21? |
| [00:25:34] | wagnerrp: | probably because most people are just using what came stock with 12.04 |
| [00:26:21] | dekarl: | and I'm getting http 500 when trying to update (mythbuntu with security pin set) |
| [00:26:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it's a recurring issue that hasn't been tracked down yet |
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| [00:29:31] | dekarl: | at least "video source count == 0" is <50% again |
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| [01:12:49] | tonsofpcs: | if i'm not updating the scheduling via EIT/ETT, can I still display their contents somehow? |
| [01:13:12] | [R]: | what? |
| [01:13:26] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [01:13:58] | tonsofpcs: | [R]: I have guide data/schedule from schedulesdirect, I have EIT update disabled as it breaks things, but I still want to be able to manually check it for updates... is it possible? |
| [01:14:06] | tonsofpcs: | thanks wagnerrp. |
| [01:14:42] | [R]: | theres apps that you can use to view the eit data... |
| [01:14:47] | tonsofpcs: | any way I can access the full TS from a HDHR that's being controlled by mythtv without disrupting tuning? |
| [01:16:00] | tonsofpcs: | [R]: any suggested apps? I was going to just dump the TS and throw it into an MPEG analysis platform and probe it til it complies with my wishes... |
| [01:16:26] | [R]: | the linuxtv website has some stuff |
| [01:16:31] | [R]: | i dunno if itworks iwth the hdhr though |
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| [05:05:13] | wagnerrp: | i'm not seeing anywhere in the makespecs that would define the binary as qmake-qt4 |
| [05:05:34] | wagnerrp: | for reference, it points to /usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/freebsd-g++ |
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| [06:35:56] | Elv13: | Hi, I just installed mythtv for the first time in a year (from git), it work fine and all, but downloading fanart/movie description doesnt seem to so anything |
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| [06:56:06] | darkstarbyte: | I have got a feature request, because it does not seem to be a part of mythtv |
| [06:56:10] | darkstarbyte: | . |
| [06:56:36] | darkstarbyte: | How about tracking all the shows that come up even if they are not listed in the channels |
| [06:56:42] | [R]: | what? |
| [06:56:43] | darkstarbyte: | ?* |
| [06:57:03] | darkstarbyte: | I saw white collar the other day |
| [06:57:06] | darkstarbyte: | the machine was up |
| [06:57:17] | darkstarbyte: | and it does not have it in the listings of tv shows. |
| [06:57:49] | darkstarbyte: | What if a tv show takes a one month break and you did not set a recording rule for it? |
| [06:58:13] | darkstarbyte: | You can't tell it to record in the case you are not able to later mark it. |
| [06:58:54] | [R]: | huh? |
| [06:59:15] | darkstarbyte: | I guess I will just leave then |
| [06:59:18] | darkstarbyte: | Good night. |
| [06:59:23] | [R]: | lol |
| [06:59:40] | darkstarbyte: | Well if someone can't understand me, then I need to go to sleep. |
| [07:00:05] | darkstarbyte: | So good night |
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| [07:14:45] | dekarl: | elv13, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup only cares about pictures, but http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_Library#Metadata_Lookup also pulls in remote texts |
| [07:15:04] | dekarl: | not sure what you are asking though |
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| [07:23:02] | Elv13: | I found the first problem, it was using mython3 |
| [07:23:06] | Elv13: | python* |
| [07:23:25] | Elv13: | now it download the metadata fine and the script work, but I still can't see the fanart |
| [07:24:48] | Elv13: | dekarl: any idea? |
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| [07:35:47] | dekarl: | Elv13: do you use a theme that shows the fanart? |
| [07:36:22] | Elv13: | mythbuntu theme. it just show not fanart and "?" as cover |
| [07:37:15] | dekarl: | hm, that should show the art |
| [07:37:42] | Elv13: | I used wget to download the image link from the log, the image is fine |
| [07:37:53] | Elv13: | so its myth or the database filler |
| [07:39:48] | dekarl: | hmm, I just went through the first link and everything worked |
| [07:40:43] | dekarl: | mythmetadatalookup.log and or mythbackend.log from the last run might give some insight |
| [07:44:07] | Elv13: | I can't find that log |
| [07:44:22] | Elv13: | I run the backend as regular user |
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| [08:25:20] | justinh: | gah. loads of people having problems with WoL on 3.x kernels, it seems |
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| [08:37:49] | justinh: | wonder if I can wake the machine up with IR.. some MCE receivers allegedly support that, but will mine, and will the BIOS? |
| [08:49:26] | cesman: | justinh: I think that largely depends on your BIOS and to an extend, your remote. |
| [08:49:51] | cesman: | If you have a remote connected via USB and your BIOS supports waking via keystroke... |
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| [09:28:29] | justinh: | cesman: could work, but it seems none of the previously working methods of waking my frontend are working with the kernel I'm running |
| [09:32:33] | justinh: | it's weird, even timed wakeups aren't working |
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| [14:11:40] | Seeker`: | argh, jerky HD video needs to die |
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| [14:21:15] | Seeker`: | Any ideas on how to get a more consistent framerate when decoding HD on a GT430? |
| [14:31:55] | dekarl: | it depends |
| [14:32:21] | dekarl: | rolling back the drivers to a working version has been mention wrt vdpau sometimes |
| [14:33:23] | dekarl: | or try http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#CPU_Frequency_Scaling |
| [14:38:10] | Seeker`: | Might give VDPAU Normal a go when I get home, have been using high |
| [14:38:49] | Seeker`: | I'm not using an AMD or Intel Atom or i-based processor, so those instructions don't work for me |
| [14:40:12] | Seeker`: | I tried disabling Compositing in the xorg.conf, which kills Unity in 12.10 apparently, so I've set it in ccsm to disable compositing on fullscreen windows, which didn't seem to make much difference. Don't know if thats because compositing isn't the issue, or because it doesn't actually fix the compositing issue |
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| [16:45:52] | lordking: | Hi, after playing a recording and pressing esc the last frame of the video is still visible. Only after switching with ctrl+alt+f2 and back to ctrl+alt+f7 the mythtv menu is visible. How come? I recently installed the ati driver |
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| [17:04:16] | wagnerrp: | lordking: because you're trying to use ATI graphics on Linux |
| [17:07:33] | lordking: | wagnerrp: Okay, strange thinge is, that I just recently installed the driver, everything was fine before... its just that sometimes my edit recordings doesnt show the current frame which can be quite annoying |
| [17:07:45] | lordking: | So now I fixtroyed things |
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| [17:08:11] | wagnerrp: | trying to use ATI graphics on Linux for anything more than a 2D desktop is a minefield |
| [17:08:17] | lordking: | ATI is what I have now... is there anything I could check or do? |
| [17:08:34] | wagnerrp: | discrete or embedded? |
| [17:08:44] | lordking: | Yeah I read about that, nvidia seems to be way better. This used pc came with an ATI card |
| [17:09:13] | wagnerrp: | AGP or PCIe? |
| [17:09:40] | lordking: | PCIe |
| [17:09:44] | lordking: | 4350 |
| [17:09:49] | lordking: | passive cooling |
| [17:09:57] | wagnerrp: | you can pick up a decent nVidia card for <$30 |
| [17:10:40] | lordking: | Is there one you would recommend? |
| [17:13:18] | wagnerrp: | this one looks good... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134146 |
| [17:13:41] | wagnerrp: | this one is $15 (after rebate), but it has a fan... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150640 |
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| [17:16:02] | lordking: | Yeah ok great, thanks! And if you would have any idea where I could at least try to tweak settings for the ati card – I would really appreciate it |
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| [17:16:45] | wagnerrp: | honestly, no... the only ATI hardware i've attempted to use on Linux in recent history was a Rage 128 |
| [17:17:00] | wagnerrp: | everything else has been nvidia or intel |
| [17:17:37] | lordking: | Ok thanks anyway! Maybe I will have luck later on. Otherwise I still can switch to nvidia |
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| [17:21:03] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: WTF is gauthier attempting to accomplish? |
| [17:21:08] | Seeker`: | wagnerrp: strage definition of 'recent' :P |
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| [17:21:32] | wagnerrp: | the hardware may not be recent, but the laptop is powered on and on the desk to my left |
| [17:22:37] | Seeker`: | wouldn't be more efficient to replace it with something a bit more modern? |
| [17:23:11] | wagnerrp: | laptops with UXGA screens aren't cheap |
| [17:23:20] | wagnerrp: | it still makes for a decent thin terminal |
| [17:23:35] | Seeker`: | ah, fair enough |
| [17:26:10] | Unguided: | Hello all. Looking for video cards for hi def playback in the states. Do any of the ati/amd cards work or is nvidia with vdpau the best choice? |
| [17:26:23] | wagnerrp: | no, yes |
| [17:27:06] | Unguided: | Ok. That makes the choice easy. wagnerrp arent you using mythtv in a jail on bsd? |
| [17:27:12] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [17:27:31] | Unguided: | are you using freebsd pcbsd? |
| [17:27:38] | wagnerrp: | freebsd |
| [17:27:48] | Unguided: | witout gui? |
| [17:27:59] | wagnerrp: | correct, no local X terminal |
| [17:29:37] | Unguided: | I thought you were the one who recommended to me. I just wanted to say thanks for the great idea. |
| [17:29:57] | wagnerrp: | the only real trouble is lack of tuner support |
| [17:30:06] | wagnerrp: | which can be worked around depending on the tuners you use |
| [17:30:44] | Unguided: | im usinf the hdhr primes. whats your take on xbmc using mythtv for a backend for tv playback? |
| [17:30:54] | wagnerrp: | none at all, never tried |
| [17:31:48] | Unguided: | supposedly windows will be able to connect to myth for playback. sounds cool anyway. Whats the work around for the primes? |
| [17:31:58] | wagnerrp: | work around? |
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| [17:32:27] | Unguided: | referring to lack of tuner support for your earlier text |
| [17:32:41] | wagnerrp: | no, i mean you work around the limited tuner support on freebsd by choosing from the handful of tuners that are supported |
| [17:33:01] | Unguided: | ahh. sorry i missed understood |
| [17:33:15] | Unguided: | *misunderstood |
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| [17:46:42] | lapion: | hello I cannot seem to find where I can enable video setting during playback |
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| [17:52:05] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
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| [17:59:33] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: he wants to record hourlong segments but keep only two. at least thats my guess |
| [17:59:56] | wagnerrp: | but... why would you want to do that? |
| [18:00:59] | Unguided: | the evening news? |
| [18:01:30] | wagnerrp: | then just record the evening news |
| [18:04:36] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, not looking at all the history here, but keeping the last two would ensure you always had the latest news |
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| [18:05:13] | jams: | dekarl, can you try updating your smolt profile that was getting a 500 error yesterday |
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| [18:06:32] | jams: | either your really quick or someone else just submitted one :) |
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| [18:14:29] | gpd: | any idea why my mythtv-frontend uses 10–40% of CPU when idle on the front screen? |
| [18:14:40] | gpd: | I found a post about timezone bu tthat hasn't helped |
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| [18:16:55] | gpd: | MythTV Version : v0.26.0-62-g3d7a20c |
| [18:19:49] | jams: | gpd which painter are you using opengl or qt? |
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| [18:20:08] | gpd: | opengl – with nvidia card and vdpau |
| [18:20:54] | jams: | look under the appearance settings section, whats the paint engine |
| [18:21:25] | gpd: | ThemePainter variable in mythweb is opengl |
| [18:21:29] | gpd: | i think that is the same |
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| [18:22:10] | jams: | set it to QT and see if it goes away. If it does then you have the answer |
| [18:22:32] | gpd: | hmm – seems to be auto on the frontend settings – will change |
| [18:25:06] | gpd: | ok – down to 2% with QT great. |
| [18:27:22] | jams: | that looks better, but really the opengl with hardware accel shouldn't be using that much cpu. |
| [18:27:54] | jams: | i assume your using the nvidia binary drivers? |
| [18:29:49] | gpd: | yes |
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| [18:34:39] | gpd: | it is also using 28% of memory – i.e. 855M RES and 1188 VIRT – which seems crazy |
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| [18:36:31] | jams: | thats not unheard of depending on the theme in use |
| [18:36:31] | gpd: | the other thing is that mysql seems to randomly peak to 100% for a good few seconds. |
| [18:36:48] | gpd: | if i turn on mysql logging – then i can see a continuous stream of these statements: |
| [18:36:51] | gpd: | 3 Prepare SELECT chanid, useonairguide, channel.sourceid FROM channel, dtv_multiplex WHERE serviceid = ? AND networkid = ? AND transportid = ? AND channel.mplexid = dtv_multiplex.mplexid |
| [18:40:00] | gpd: | that query doesn't even make any sense to me – what is the ? going to match? |
| [18:40:08] | jams: | are you using eit? |
| [18:40:13] | gpd: | yes |
| [18:40:45] | kormoc: | gpd: the ? is a parameter for the query, it'll be filled in with values when you execute the query |
| [18:40:57] | jams: | don't know much about that..but about the ? is what kormoc just said |
| [18:41:09] | kormoc: | gpd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepared_statement |
| [18:41:31] | gpd: | ok – htat makes more sense – however – it is still being executed about 10 times per second |
| [18:41:54] | gpd: | is that normal when using EIT? |
| [18:41:54] | kormoc: | gpd: that's normal. as guide data flows in, we have to process it. thus, the queries |
| [18:42:01] | gpd: | ok- no problem |
| [18:43:08] | dekarl: | jams, tada http://smolt.mythtv.org/client/show/pub_7ee60 . . . b6b7c01bcfef |
| [18:43:15] | jams: | cool |
| [18:43:53] | jams: | was hoping it would work..now to take the server back out of debugging mode |
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| [18:48:10] | dekarl: | gpd: I have a index to make that faster in the pipe. And some fixes have already been pushed to master to not call that statement to often |
| [18:49:43] | dekarl: | gpd: see http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11053 |
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| [18:51:00] | gpd: | dekarl: thanks – I'll keep an eye out |
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| [20:44:08] | Unguided: | Hello all. Whats the best remote to use with mythtv |
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| [20:57:35] | jams: | Unguided, that really depends on you i guess. For simple usage a MCE reciever/remote or streamzap reciever/remote are popular |
| [20:58:04] | Unguided: | streamzap? |
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| [21:13:15] | wizbit: | how close are we to 0.26.1 ? |
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| [21:13:26] | dekarl: | dzen: mythtv records to one file per recording. |
| [21:13:41] | dzen: | okay |
| [21:14:09] | dekarl: | are you recording DVB? If so, which version of mythtv are you running? |
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| [21:14:36] | dzen: | no, I'm just trying to stream from a .m3u file to my xbmc |
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| [21:15:31] | dekarl: | dzen: how is mythtv involved in that? Sounds like something between streaming server and xbmc |
| [21:16:01] | dzen: | dekarl: -> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FreeBox :) |
| [21:16:57] | dekarl: | hmm, Free.FR -> MythTV -> XBMC? |
| [21:17:08] | dzen: | yes |
| [21:19:05] | dekarl: | what version of MythTV are you running? ( see e.g. mythbackend --version ) |
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| [21:19:45] | dekarl: | and can you pastebin the backend log around a recording? |
| [21:19:52] | dzen: | MythTV Version : v0.25 |
| [21:19:55] | dzen: | the macos version |
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| [21:22:24] | dekarl: | Hmm, I don't know where the logfiles are put on osx. |
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| [21:22:52] | Guest58894: | HI Guys, having lirc problems, fresh install,12.04.1, using mce, irsend returns error "irsend: timeout" |
| [21:23:34] | Guest58894: | Any help would be appropriated |
| [21:23:45] | dekarl: | dzen: are you trying LiveTV or recording for watching later? |
| [21:24:03] | dzen: | I'm trying LiveTV |
| [21:24:46] | dekarl: | can you try MythTV 0.26, LiveTV with the IPTVREcorder is known broken in 0.25 iirc |
| [21:24:52] | dekarl: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.26#IPTV_Recorder |
| [21:25:59] | dzen: | okay |
| [21:26:50] | dzen: | http://www.avenard.org/files/mythtv/mac/ |
| [21:27:00] | dzen: | there is only 0.25 version of the backend |
| [21:27:05] | dekarl: | ^- jya you about? |
| [21:27:31] | wizbit: | mythfrontend on a mac? yuk.. wipe os x and install linux :D |
| [21:28:01] | dzen: | the backend :) |
| [21:29:07] | dekarl: | no suggesting of linux vms for the backend on a nice bsd/osx box please ;) |
| [21:29:43] | dekarl: | there is a build script for osx, see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Mac_OSX_build |
| [21:30:13] | dzen: | a linux box will come when I'll have found a correct htpc build :) |
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| [21:34:11] | dzen: | so, thx for teh help dekarl :) |
| [21:34:28] | dzen: | maybe one day, I'll build mythtv on my freebsd |
| [21:34:30] | dzen: | see ya |
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| [21:34:59] | ** wizbit wonders how many hits on google 'lirc problem' shows ** | |
| [21:35:51] | dekarl: | dzen, I hear that xbmc can stream livetv from a freebox directly like this http://play.with.free.fr/index.php/freebox-tv . . . f-dans-xbmc/ |
| [21:36:06] | dekarl: | oh, bad timing |
| [21:40:24] | jams: | Unguided, http://www.provantage.com/streamzap-usbir2~7STRE001.htm |
| [21:41:03] | Unguided: | jams: thank you |
| [21:42:34] | jams: | The remotes have a good feel, and the best part is when you buy a streamzap thats what you get. unlike an mce where it could mce variation. |
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| [23:01:59] | jya: | dekarl: I'm here |
| [23:02:34] | jya: | for mythbackend on a mac, I would install it using macport instead |
| [23:02:57] | dekarl: | dzen didn't stick around :( |
| [23:04:27] | jya: | actually, I've been using for my testing a mac 0.26 backend that is using IPTV capture, works well |
| [23:04:45] | jya: | along with HLS recorder |
| [23:05:36] | dekarl: | I think he may have been using 0.25 without guide data in livetv mode... |
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| [23:10:44] | Tobbe5178: | can someone tell me where to find the option so all new recordings is flagged for commercials? |
| [23:11:08] | Tobbe5178: | i know where it used to be but due to disk crash ive had to reinstall and now i cant find it |
| [23:12:42] | dekarl: | Tobbe5178: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Commercial_detection#Miscellaneous says its in the default jobqueue settings |
| [23:13:15] | Tobbe5178: | i've already looked there |
| [23:13:18] | Tobbe5178: | and its not there |
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| [23:17:13] | dekarl: | Tobbe5178: hmm, in 0.26 it might have moved to the recording rule templates |
| [23:18:17] | Tobbe5178: | i have "allow commercial detection job" enabled in mythtv-setup |
| [23:18:22] | Tobbe5178: | so that part is ok |
| [23:18:38] | Tobbe5178: | you mean in each individual recording rule? |
| [23:18:51] | dekarl: | what version are you running? |
| [23:18:53] | Tobbe5178: | thats is going to be anoying very quickly to set every time |
| [23:18:55] | Tobbe5178: | 0.26 |
| [23:19:04] | dekarl: | ahh, try http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/71c65ba . . . 591af/mythtv |
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| [23:23:18] | Tobbe5178: | thats probably it |
| [23:23:34] | ** Tobbe5178 thinks wiki should be updated properly with this info ** | |
| [23:24:43] | Tobbe5178: | now the question is, what is the default template and where do you find it |
| [23:25:10] | Tobbe5178: | never mind, found it |
| [23:25:52] | dekarl: | help in updating the wiki with the latest findings is appreciated (note that the installed base is till mostly on 0.25) |
| [23:26:11] | Tobbe5178: | the default template is set to flag commercials |
| [23:26:23] | Tobbe5178: | it was already ok |
| [23:26:32] | Tobbe5178: | but im not getting any flagging automaticaly |
| [23:26:45] | Tobbe5178: | (job must be started manualy on each recording) |
| [23:28:42] | dekarl: | hmm, I'm out of ideas (not using the commercial flagging myself). |
| [23:29:42] | Tobbe5178: | rules with the comflag checkbox set works, but those without that checkbox doesnt take the settings from the default template |
| [23:29:57] | Tobbe5178: | im prety sure this was working before my disk crash |
| [23:30:04] | Tobbe5178: | and i had 0.26 there too |
| [23:30:12] | dekarl: | Oh, that makes sense. |
| [23:30:16] | Tobbe5178: | thanks for pointing me to the right commit at least |
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| [23:49:38] | bill6502: | Tobbe5178: Are the recordings that aren't being commflagged scheduled through mythweb (as opposed to the frontend GUI?) |
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