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| [00:33:00] | sphery: | ugghhh... I had a recording rule to re-record movies I've already recorded in SDTV but haven't watched, yet, if they re-aired in HDTV. |
| [00:33:40] | sphery: | I just saw a new recording of Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, and noticed that the rule that recorded it was any time/any channel, so I deleted the rule |
| [00:33:54] | sphery: | Then I remembered the custom rule mentioned above--and it turns out that's what I deleted. |
| [00:34:16] | sphery: | I'd had that rule for about 18mos and it hadn't yet hit, so I totally forgot about it |
| [00:34:40] | sphery: | on the bright side, I know it worked. On the not-so-bright side, I have to now figure out what the rule was. |
| [00:34:47] | wagnerrp: | well it's not like Planes, Trains, and Automobiles was actually in HD |
| [00:34:55] | wagnerrp: | and... don't you have database backups? |
| [00:35:15] | sphery: | it's widescreen in the re-record (maybe upscaled 480p?) |
| [00:35:34] | sphery: | I can't look into a database backup--I'm supposed to use the UI! :) |
| [00:35:43] | sphery: | thanks for the reminder, though |
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| [00:37:30] | sphery: | anyway, seems it was marked hdtv in the listings |
| [00:37:44] | sphery: | and, technically, it /is/ 1080i (now--after scaling :) |
| [00:37:58] | sheppard: | if they have the original film, they can release it in whatever resolution they want |
| [00:38:02] | sheppard: | EXTRA FILM GRAIN! |
| [00:38:04] | sphery: | but much better than the 2GB/2hr SDTV version I had recorded earlier |
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| [00:47:01] | Demon_Fox: | Is there anything else that will make cut points for videos outside of mythtv, because it is not possible for me to do it with mythtv? |
| [00:49:38] | sphery: | seems it's just a Re-record SDTV in HDTV example plus add in extra table recorded and recorded.recgroup = 'Movies' AND recorded.programid = program.programid |
| [00:53:06] | sphery: | Demon_Fox: why can't you do it inside mythtv? |
| [00:53:31] | sphery: | only reason I can imagine is if you have a corrupt recording that crashes playback or something |
| [00:53:34] | Demon_Fox: | sphery, Something is broken down the line, and I can give you a paste bin of the information I have. |
| [00:53:43] | Demon_Fox: | Not the video |
| [00:53:53] | sphery: | so what doesn't work? |
| [00:53:55] | Demon_Fox: | Hold on I will get everything together again. |
| [00:53:57] | sphery: | what symptoms do you see |
| [00:54:14] | Demon_Fox: | It can't find the defined storage directories |
| [00:54:23] | sphery: | what is "it" |
| [00:54:24] | Demon_Fox: | It is in mysql |
| [00:54:31] | Demon_Fox: | mythbackend |
| [00:54:32] | sphery: | are you saying that you can't /transcode/? |
| [00:54:36] | sphery: | editing should work fine |
| [00:54:40] | Demon_Fox: | It errors out for me |
| [00:54:40] | sphery: | transcoding may fail |
| [00:54:47] | sphery: | mythbackend errors? |
| [00:54:54] | sphery: | then you can't even play the recording, right? |
| [00:54:59] | Demon_Fox: | Should I give you everything I have first |
| [00:55:02] | sphery: | we are talking about a recording here, right? |
| [00:55:10] | sphery: | not a Video Library video (formerly MythVideo) |
| [00:55:18] | Demon_Fox: | Mythtv seems to be broken |
| [00:55:23] | Demon_Fox: | I can give you what I have |
| [00:55:25] | sphery: | if you can play a recording, you can hit E to edit |
| [00:55:31] | Demon_Fox: | That works |
| [00:55:35] | Demon_Fox: | transcoding does not |
| [00:55:39] | sphery: | right |
| [00:55:49] | Demon_Fox: | error code 150 |
| [00:55:55] | sphery: | so yeah, transcoding to cut the commercials may not work |
| [00:56:28] | Demon_Fox: | !darkstarbyte fetch and compile the information |
| [00:56:48] | sphery: | in which case the best option is a) play back the recording in MythTV (it will automatically skip the cut sections, anyway), and b) have sufficient hard drive space for the extra 1/3 of the recording you would have cut out |
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| [00:57:01] | darkstarbyte: | yes |
| [00:57:09] | sphery: | and since HDDs are cheap, again (even getting down to $79.99 for a 2TB)... |
| [00:57:31] | Demon_Fox: | I am not archiving them |
| [00:57:41] | sphery: | I don't think I'll be able to help with the transcoding part, though |
| [00:57:53] | sphery: | I don't transcode anything (due to the fact that it's not worth it since HDD space is cheap) |
| [00:58:23] | sphery: | then why would you transcode it--wouldn't it be a waste if you're just going to watch and delete |
| [00:58:39] | Demon_Fox: | My pentium 4 transcodes at 200+fps |
| [00:58:48] | Demon_Fox: | My quad core machine 600fps |
| [00:58:51] | Demon_Fox: | dvd quality |
| [00:59:08] | sphery: | but why transcode if you're not keeping it? |
| [00:59:19] | sphery: | "because it's fast" isn't a good reason |
| [00:59:23] | Demon_Fox: | To stream on upnp and delete later. |
| [00:59:56] | sphery: | ah, so because you have a garbage player/protocol, so you don't get automatic skipping of cut sections |
| [01:00:16] | sphery: | another solution is just run mythfrontend and don't be hamstrung by UPnP |
| [01:00:32] | sphery: | and take advantage of all the features and functionality of mythfrontend |
| [01:01:04] | sphery: | anyway, though, I don't know anything about the transcoder other than the fact that it's temperamental on a good day and downright broken for many videos |
| [01:02:03] | darkstarbyte: | http://dpaste.com/845606/ |
| [01:02:09] | darkstarbyte: | http://dpaste.com/845609/ |
| [01:02:16] | darkstarbyte: | http://dpaste.com/845610/ |
| [01:02:44] | Demon_Fox: | Best bot ever |
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| [01:02:49] | ** darkstarbyte thanks ** | |
| [01:03:16] | sphery: | isn't it mythtranscode that's failing? if so, look at the mythtranscode log file |
| [01:03:28] | Demon_Fox: | More than that though |
| [01:04:19] | Demon_Fox: | It can't find the places I told it to store things |
| [01:06:14] | Demon_Fox: | I only archive video from channels that are not annoying |
| [01:06:39] | sphery: | because the user running mythbackend (and, therefore, mythtranscode) doesn't have access to /home/branden directory, and, therefore, doesn't have access to /home/branden/myth/2/ |
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| [01:07:04] | Demon_Fox: | user branden is running it. |
| [01:07:13] | sphery: | and the fix is not to grant permissions on /home/branden (which would be counter to all of Unix design), but to move all those directories to somewhere else more appropriate |
| [01:07:20] | sphery: | server data shouldn't be in a home directory |
| [01:07:58] | Demon_Fox: | everything is 777 except for /home/branden |
| [01:07:59] | sphery: | it should be in a directory set aside for server data, such as /srv/mythtv/ |
| [01:08:30] | Demon_Fox: | How about /home/mythtv |
| [01:08:34] | Demon_Fox: | set to 777 |
| [01:08:51] | sphery: | and /home/branden is almost definitely 700 or 750--or should be |
| [01:08:58] | Demon_Fox: | 700 |
| [01:09:07] | sphery: | what distro |
| [01:09:09] | Demon_Fox: | The darkstarbyte bot posted it. |
| [01:09:11] | Demon_Fox: | slackware |
| [01:09:28] | sphery: | and you're sure it's running mythbackend as user branden? |
| [01:09:43] | Demon_Fox: | I started it |
| [01:09:44] | sphery: | isn't it started by a start script (and/or wrapper script) that sets the user to something like mythtv |
| [01:09:59] | sphery: | the best place would be something like /srv/mythtv |
| [01:10:05] | Demon_Fox: | I have to start it every boot |
| [01:10:45] | Demon_Fox: | Why are you so set on /srv/mythtv? |
| [01:10:59] | sphery: | some distros (that don't care to follow the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, FHS) use /var/lib--which is technically-speaking wrong, but /much/ better than any home dir |
| [01:11:03] | wagnerrp: | because that's where you serve files out of |
| [01:11:16] | wagnerrp: | while /var/lib is where you have transient runtime data |
| [01:11:24] | ** sphery believes in standard ** | |
| [01:11:36] | Demon_Fox: | Slackware hates anything but tradition being in / |
| [01:11:44] | sphery: | http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html# . . . IDEDBYSYSTEM -> "/srv : Data for services provided by this system" |
| [01:12:03] | sphery: | slackware, 20 years of tradition, unhampered by progress? |
| [01:12:21] | Demon_Fox: | I also set it to use /mnt/store before and it could not find it, and decided to use /mnt/store because that was the hard coded default |
| [01:12:21] | ** wagnerrp is a freebsd user, where /var is supposed to be no more than a couple percent of your disk space ** | |
| [01:12:25] | sphery: | you can use /usr/share/mythtv/data if you prefer |
| [01:12:36] | sphery: | or /var/lib or /var/local or ... |
| [01:12:44] | sphery: | but /srv is correct according to FHS |
| [01:12:57] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, Slackware is called BSD linux |
| [01:13:04] | sphery: | /mnt/store is better than /home |
| [01:13:24] | Demon_Fox: | sphery, I set it there before, and it could not find it, and decided to use /mnt/store |
| [01:13:34] | Demon_Fox: | It makes no sense |
| [01:13:38] | sphery: | though /mnt is supposed to be for file systems mounted by the administrator temporarily |
| [01:13:56] | Demon_Fox: | I used to have a huge hard drive hooked up |
| [01:14:07] | Demon_Fox: | Then on the newer kernels it no longer spins down. |
| [01:14:08] | sphery: | mythtv will find it if a) you configure Storage Groups properly (using mythtv-setup) and b) you set system permissions properly |
| [01:14:17] | Demon_Fox: | I know |
| [01:14:33] | Demon_Fox: | Just like the vp8 spec, I am going to scream. |
| [01:14:49] | Demon_Fox: | Neither make any sense |
| [01:15:06] | sphery: | first step is to choose a location outside of /home, then move the data over there |
| [01:15:12] | sphery: | then we can fix the permissions |
| [01:15:24] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i've gone through all this with him... no idea what's going on |
| [01:15:30] | sphery: | likely you'll want it to be 775 mythtv:mythtv or something |
| [01:15:32] | wagnerrp: | i'm sure it's something stupid and simple |
| [01:15:38] | wagnerrp: | but what that is.... i have no clue |
| [01:15:46] | sphery: | maybe ACLs? |
| [01:16:22] | sphery: | or are you using some auto-mounter functionality that's too slow? |
| [01:17:03] | Demon_Fox: | I don't automount anything for mythtv data |
| [01:17:22] | Demon_Fox: | The only thing I have ever done like that was adding my external hard drive to fstab |
| [01:17:35] | Demon_Fox: | I had to remove it for obvious reasons |
| [01:18:21] | sphery: | well, I'm not sure what would be causing the issue, but it sounds like it's below mythtv |
| [01:18:43] | Demon_Fox: | I guess I will downgrade slackware and see what happens |
| [01:19:35] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, Do you have to manually mount drives with FreeBSD? |
| [01:20:09] | wagnerrp: | with UFS formatted drives, yes... through fstab like normal |
| [01:20:15] | wagnerrp: | ZFS does its own thing |
| [01:20:25] | Demon_Fox: | What about ext* |
| [01:20:28] | wagnerrp: | mount points are stored against the partition definitions |
| [01:20:30] | wagnerrp: | ext? |
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| [01:20:39] | wagnerrp: | what's this nonsense? |
| [01:20:44] | Demon_Fox: | ext * file systems |
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| [01:20:56] | Demon_Fox: | ext 2, ext 3, and even ext 4 |
| [01:21:09] | wagnerrp: | on FreeBSD? you're speaking of madness... |
| [01:21:32] | Demon_Fox: | Lets see if i can find one that you're using that I am using. |
| [01:21:48] | wagnerrp: | i'm using ZFS |
| [01:22:28] | wagnerrp: | the frontends and one backend run JFS, but that's just in an iscsi disk image hosted on ZFS |
| [01:23:04] | Demon_Fox: | What about xfs? |
| [01:23:12] | wagnerrp: | no freebsd support |
| [01:23:30] | Demon_Fox: | BTRFS? |
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| [01:23:45] | wagnerrp: | why mess with BTRFS when you have ZFS? |
| [01:23:45] | Demon_Fox: | or even REISER? |
| [01:23:57] | wagnerrp: | no MurderFS either |
| [01:24:05] | Demon_Fox: | I can't seem to find support for ZFS in the kernel |
| [01:24:18] | wagnerrp: | it's not GPL3 compatible |
| [01:24:54] | Demon_Fox: | Is it licensed under BSD, or the formally know dwtfyw license? |
| [01:25:04] | Demon_Fox: | known* |
| [01:25:17] | wagnerrp: | some custom Sun open source license |
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| [01:26:38] | wagnerrp: | anyway, BTRFS was only developed as Linux's counter to ZFS, since ZFS would never be compatible to add to the kernel sources natively |
| [01:26:53] | wagnerrp: | there is one third party project out of LLNL that produces kernel modules for ZFS |
| [01:27:20] | Demon_Fox: | Starting to sound like to much work |
| [01:27:36] | wagnerrp: | nah, all you have to do is run freebsd |
| [01:27:46] | Demon_Fox: | Thinking about it |
| [01:27:54] | wagnerrp: | you should be doing that anyway... :P |
| [01:28:15] | Demon_Fox: | I hope my external drive will be able to spin down again. |
| [01:28:56] | Demon_Fox: | So far anything newer than the 2.6.* series in linux, my drive will no longer spin down. |
| [01:29:16] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, Will I have to make a lot of packages again? |
| [01:29:30] | Demon_Fox: | I am tired of writing package making scripts |
| [01:29:39] | wagnerrp: | damn straight! hand built packages for all! |
| [01:30:15] | sphery: | spin down for power save? |
| [01:30:25] | wagnerrp: | or to detach |
| [01:30:25] | Demon_Fox: | To save ear ache |
| [01:30:30] | sphery: | what type of drive? |
| [01:30:47] | Demon_Fox: | brand or what? |
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| [01:31:07] | sphery: | don't newer drives often have their own spin up/down settings built into firmware? |
| [01:31:14] | sphery: | I know my WD Greens dow |
| [01:31:15] | sphery: | do |
| [01:31:24] | Demon_Fox: | Seagate |
| [01:31:32] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [01:31:38] | Demon_Fox: | It errors when I use hdparm to force it. |
| [01:32:09] | sphery: | weird |
| [01:32:29] | Demon_Fox: | On multiple distributions. |
| [01:32:36] | Demon_Fox: | and kernels |
| [01:34:55] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, Gentoo can use the BSD kernel |
| [01:35:27] | wagnerrp: | so can debian |
| [01:35:31] | wagnerrp: | all of which makes little sense |
| [01:37:10] | Demon_Fox: | Honestly I think Gentoo's package manager was a great idea, but not in python |
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| [01:42:39] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, What do you think of the apple version of BSD? |
| [01:44:33] | wagnerrp: | what do you mean? |
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| [01:48:58] | Demon_Fox: | They use a slightly modified version of the BSD kernel |
| [01:49:56] | wagnerrp: | no, they use a blend of the BSD4.3 and FreeBSD userlands, but their own completely independent Mach kernel |
| [01:50:24] | Demon_Fox: | I got some bad info again, perhaps I can find the source. |
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| [01:51:31] | wagnerrp: | Mach is a microkernel, structurally far different from the monolithic BSD kernel |
| [01:51:49] | Demon_Fox: | I wonder who darwin is then? |
| [01:52:07] | wagnerrp: | darwin is OSX, or at least the open source portion of it |
| [01:52:20] | wagnerrp: | meaning without their GUI frontend (cocoa/aqua) |
| [01:52:30] | Demon_Fox: | thanks for the clarification. |
| [01:52:35] | Demon_Fox: | I am out. |
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| [01:55:04] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if i can get shielded headphone cable |
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| [01:56:04] | wagnerrp: | something in my desktop has started putting out a nice hum |
| [01:56:16] | wagnerrp: | and the headphone cable is running alongside it as a nice antenna |
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| [02:31:55] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: fan with a bearing issue running slower than normal, creating a larger inductive field, mayhaps? |
| [02:32:15] | wagnerrp: | possible, the fans in there are all several years old |
| [02:32:16] | tonsofpcs: | also, all headphone cable *should* be shielded (I'm sure cheap ones aren't) |
| [02:34:13] | wagnerrp: | well you've got three contacts, left, right, and ground |
| [02:34:19] | wagnerrp: | where's the independent shield? |
| [02:35:35] | tonsofpcs: | you could always use mic cable, like Belden 8451 / 9451 |
| [02:35:49] | tonsofpcs: | the shield gets grounded. |
| [02:36:45] | wagnerrp: | right, but it's still coupled into the audio signal |
| [02:37:07] | wagnerrp: | i should just use my controller box to the opposite side of the desk, so the headphones don't interfere with the desktop |
| [02:37:28] | tonsofpcs: | you should just plug your headphones into an external amp that takes a balanced input ;) |
| [02:38:15] | wagnerrp: | well it is an external amp |
| [02:38:20] | wagnerrp: | sort of |
| [02:38:20] | tonsofpcs: | ah, that's the real difference between 8451 and 9451! 8451's paper sheath lets you strip the jacket but keep the shield, 9451 is designed to strip both. |
| [02:38:27] | wagnerrp: | technically, the amp is in the subwoofer |
| [02:38:37] | wagnerrp: | this is the little controller box between the PC and the subwoofer |
| [02:38:38] | tonsofpcs: | your headphones have subwoofers? |
| [02:38:59] | wagnerrp: | computer speakers have subwoofers, this is plugged into the speakers |
| [02:39:11] | tonsofpcs: | oh, ewww. |
| [02:39:14] | wagnerrp: | (or rather the associated controller box) |
| [02:39:27] | tonsofpcs: | computer speakers are known for being poorly shielded and having poor PSU filtering |
| [02:40:25] | wagnerrp: | they're 400W computer speakers |
| [02:40:33] | tonsofpcs: | we can get an FM station on most computer speakers in one of the rooms at work (the diodes turn into slope detectors). Wrapping the speaker with foil makes it stop (and totally useless) |
| [02:41:34] | tonsofpcs: | anyway, back to watching TV. Try plugging the headphones right into the PC :) |
| [02:41:50] | wagnerrp: | i used to pick up what i think was air traffic from medevac helicopters |
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| [02:42:11] | wagnerrp: | plugging it into the PC would require reaching around to the back |
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| [03:40:30] | sphery: | wagnerrp: are you able to check if there's an issue with sendmail or do we need to ping Bei rdo or someone? |
| [03:40:57] | sphery: | seems no messages have gone through for 3 1/2 hours, which could be a very quiet period, but seems unusual |
| [03:41:18] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [03:41:35] | wagnerrp: | oh, nothing on the mailing list? |
| [03:41:36] | sphery: | I think sometimes when the server restarts, it failed to run for some reason, so even just checking to see if it's running would be useful |
| [03:41:39] | sphery: | yeah, mailing lists |
| [03:42:47] | bill6502: | I could add yet another comment about LocalHostName just to see if the list is working ;) |
| [03:43:19] | sphery: | hehe |
| [03:48:57] | wagnerrp: | mailman appears to be working fine |
| [03:49:06] | wagnerrp: | but admittedly, i'm not entirely sure what im looking for |
| [03:49:28] | sphery: | is sendmail running, too? |
| [03:50:08] | wagnerrp: | postfix, and yes |
| [03:50:10] | wagnerrp: | as is mailman |
| [03:50:31] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [03:54:52] | sphery: | don't remember exactly what failed before and I've lost my irc logs, so can't find any more specific info |
| [03:55:19] | sphery: | guess we'll assume it's working for now |
| [04:09:05] | squidly: | My frontend is hanging up at the "Locking input Devices" |
| [04:10:50] | squidly: | Anyone have that or have a fix? |
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| [17:26:05] | tonsofpcs: | hey, any suggestions for satellite-provided channels that I can use for training folks on steerable reception? Something public that has a webpage describing their feed, footprint has to include north-east US (anything that hits CONUS or Canada should do fine) |
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| [18:05:36] | jams: | is mytharchive storage group aware or able to access remote files on the backend (without nfs)? |
| [18:06:20] | wagnerrp_: | it's storage group aware, it has to be |
| [18:06:26] | wagnerrp_: | but i don't believe it can access content remotely |
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| [18:06:56] | jams: | ok..that falls in line with what i'm seeing. |
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| [18:17:34] | jams: | According to the log it failed attempting to access myth://192.168.1.6:6543/filename.mpg. But since that access attempt came from within mythburn.py it makes sense that it would fail. |
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| [19:47:54] | Gremlyn: | hi all, having a problem with mythtv after restarting my computer where the mythbackend is 'down', as in the front end can't connect to the backend, even though mythbackend is running. here is my mythbackend error log: https://gist.github.com/4288070 |
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| [19:52:12] | kormoc: | Gremlyn: kill all the running mythbackend processes and restart it. seems like it's running multiple times |
| [19:52:34] | Gremlyn: | kormoc, only one instance running |
| [19:52:43] | Gremlyn: | restarting the process does make it work again |
| [19:53:13] | kormoc: | something was holding the port open. If it happens again, you can use netstat -ln to see what's using what ports |
| [19:53:34] | Gremlyn: | it's consistent that it happens at boot everytime |
| [19:53:57] | kormoc: | reboot and check netstat and see what's up then |
| [19:54:17] | dekarl: | well, this line says something has the port open already "Dec 14 10:41:08 gremyth mythbackend[24788]: E CoreContext serverpool.cpp:407 (listen) Failed listening on TCP 127.0.0.1:6543 – Error 8: The bound address is already in use" |
| [19:55:09] | dekarl: | mysql not being reachale is fishy, too |
| [19:55:19] | Gremlyn: | hrm, not seeing it open with netstat, but I'll reboot and try again |
| [19:57:07] | Gremlyn: | yeah nada opening that port |
| [19:58:14] | Gremlyn: | maybe it is trying to access stuff before it's brought up? |
| [19:58:50] | dekarl: | what distribution is that? |
| [19:58:57] | Gremlyn: | ubuntu 11.10 |
| [19:59:04] | Gremlyn: | (I know I need to upgrade :P) |
| [19:59:29] | bas-t: | you mean mythbackend is accessing mysql to soon? |
| [19:59:31] | dekarl: | its only one step to mythbuntu 12.04 LTS :) |
| [19:59:58] | Gremlyn: | yeah, I tried to upgrade and broke a bunch of stuff, and haven't had time to sort it out |
| [20:00:04] | Gremlyn: | bas-t: maybe? |
| [20:00:21] | dekarl: | Gremlyn: I'm guessing you are using the mythbuntu packages (doesn't matter which flavour of Ubuntu you are using them on) so it should be waiting for mysql |
| [20:01:12] | Gremlyn: | I am, dekarl |
| [20:01:24] | bas-t: | but having broken a bunch of stuff, who knows... |
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| [20:01:59] | Gremlyn: | stuff was only broken when I tried to update to 12.04, but luckily I had a full image backup and reverted, so stuff isn't broken now |
| [20:03:56] | bas-t: | well, it's not working right, as in broken imo |
| [20:04:14] | Gremlyn: | well, this specific part, yeah, but it isn't related to the OS upgrade |
| [20:04:26] | bas-t: | i get that |
| [20:05:43] | bas-t: | have you tried restarting mysql and afterwards restart myht? |
| [20:06:45] | Gremlyn: | if I restart mythbackend after a reboot, everything is fine |
| [20:07:24] | bas-t: | so it does not wait for mysql to come up? |
| [20:07:30] | Gremlyn: | doesn't seem to |
| [20:09:10] | bas-t: | i'd say: make a dump of your database and do a fresh install of mythbuntu 12.04 LTS |
| [20:09:24] | Gremlyn: | is there a debug setting I can set for logging? |
| [20:09:30] | bas-t: | when you find the tgime, that is... |
| [20:09:55] | Gremlyn: | bas-t, that is my plan hopefully over christmas break |
| [20:11:15] | bas-t: | so your machine is nut up 24/7? otherwise you could just wait some days |
| [20:11:59] | Gremlyn: | myth is the easy part, it's all the other customisations I've got that broke when I tried to upgrade :P it's a full HTPC controlled with a remote only (for the wife's sanity) |
| [20:12:27] | bas-t: | it's only ten days until christmas, why bother to sort it out? |
| [20:12:40] | Gremlyn: | the machine doesn't restart often, but I always forget to check mythbackend when I reboot |
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| [20:12:49] | Gremlyn: | yeah, that is assuming I get to it over christmas |
| [20:14:02] | bas-t: | did not document your tweaks then? i made that mistake a few times too |
| [20:14:16] | Gremlyn: | some I didn't |
| [20:14:58] | bill6502: | Gremlyn: If you're using the stock /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf (like this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythtv . . . end.upstart) then the backend waits 15 seconds for mysql to be up. |
| [20:15:21] | Gremlyn: | going to grab an extra hard drive and mirror the install so I can go through and find all my tweaks |
| [20:15:35] | Gremlyn: | think I am bill6502, will take a look |
| [20:15:53] | bas-t: | good thinking |
| [20:18:09] | bill6502: | To avoid confusion in the backend logs, I'd comment out the two respawn lines. Just to ease troubleshooting. That my prevent the problems with IP addresses being in use. |
| [20:19:16] | bill6502: | Also, when using netstat in *buntu as kormoc suggested, be sure to use sudo. I like: sudo netstat -pant | grep myth |
| [20:19:20] | Gremlyn: | bill6502, my mythtv-backend.conf looks like that, except I have sleep 2 instead of sleep .5 |
| [20:19:59] | Gremlyn: | thanks, I did sudo bill6502 :) |
| [20:20:46] | Gremlyn: | comment out the respawn lines in the .conf? |
| [20:20:50] | Gremlyn: | what confusion is it causing? |
| [20:22:07] | Gremlyn: | commented out those lines, and changed to 0.5 just for kicks... rebooting |
| [20:22:27] | bill6502: | Gremlyn: Just the multiple startups in the log. And possibly the "Error 9: The address is not available" |
| [20:22:34] | Gremlyn: | ah |
| [20:23:51] | bill6502: | It won't fix a thing, just trying to hone in one a single problem. Which appears to be mysql going away (just by looking at that single log you posted.) |
| [20:24:34] | Gremlyn: | yeah |
| [20:26:42] | Gremlyn: | https://gist.github.com/4288390 |
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| [20:35:30] | bill6502: | Gremlyn: If you do: sudo start mythtv-backend now, it will start correct? |
| [20:35:31] | Gremlyn: | yeah |
| [20:35:31] | bill6502: | OK, please try this: in /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf, add sleep 10 just before the line where mythbackend is started. Then try you reboot test again. If it works, I'll explain why ;) |
| [20:35:31] | Gremlyn: | I run "sudo service mythtv-backend restart" and it works every time |
| [20:35:31] | Gremlyn: | ok will do |
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| [20:35:32] | Gremlyn: | that would be this line: LANG=$LANG /usr/bin/mythbackend --syslog local7 --user mythtv |
| [20:35:48] | bill6502: | Understood. What I'm after is the IPv6 addresses not being up at boot time. After the system is up, restarting the backend works. I've had a problem similar to this. That's why the sleep 10 suggestion. I've got more details, but lets see if it works first. |
| [20:36:03] | bill6502: | Gremlyn: yes, just before that line. |
| [20:36:47] | Gremlyn: | rebooting |
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| [20:37:27] | bill6502: | It sounds like you're doing restarts, as opposed to cold boots (which is where I've got the problem) correct? |
| [20:37:40] | Gremlyn: | both cause the problem |
| [20:37:55] | Gremlyn: | but generally just reboots, yeah |
| [20:38:21] | Gremlyn: | and.... functional at boot! |
| [20:38:35] | Gremlyn: | so you think ipv6 was hanging it up? |
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| [21:51:42] | bill6502: | Gremlyn: It is. And I lied. In my case it's the Unique Local Address that always fails on my box, not the Link Local like yours (I just booted up the host that fails to check.) Could you pastebin the output of your ifconfig eth0 (just curious, it won't fix anything.) |
| [21:53:03] | Gremlyn: | http://pastebin.com/uMnnd5ur |
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| [22:06:38] | bill6502: | Gremlyn: Thanks, just another clue. That and your disable IPv6 on your router test. Why one of my boxes fails every cold boot, and the other doesn't has me going (both run IPv6). I even run MythTV over IPv6 on both of my boxes. Maybe you've highlighted the reason why more users aren't complaining about it — most don't have IPv6 routers (or its turned off on them by default.) |
| [22:07:15] | Gremlyn: | yeah, I have Tomato on my router and explicitly had to enabled with with an init script |
| [22:08:26] | Gremlyn: | setting ipv6 is another I want to do whenever I have the time |
| [22:10:09] | Gremlyn: | setting up* |
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| [22:14:39] | Tobbe5178: | short question, where do you find the checkbox to enable auto commflagging? |
| [22:16:00] | Tobbe5178: | had a bit disk crash and had to rebuild my mythtv box and i know i found it in older versions but now it must have been moved and info i have found so far points both to the frontend setup and mythtv-setup but still cant find it |
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| [22:54:36] | skd5aner: | gotta love when chutt uses WMC because MythTV can't do what he needs it to do |
| [22:54:42] | skd5aner: | :S |
| [23:01:13] | stuartm: | when no open source application can do it |
| [23:02:04] | stuartm: | because evil cable companies employ copy protection |
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