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| [01:15:54] | ** wagnerrp wonders how much several terabytes worth of remote storage would cost ** | |
| [01:16:35] | wagnerrp: | at some point, it's probably cheaper to colocate your own hardware |
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| [01:19:26] | tonsofpcs: | that point is around 5GB... |
| [01:19:33] | tonsofpcs: | web hosts have gotten stingy. |
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| [01:20:37] | wagnerrp: | damnit... IP changed and i missed it |
| [01:20:41] | wagnerrp: | haven't gotten email all day |
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| [01:47:45] | sheppard: | wagnerrp: bulk data warehousing isn't that terrible. some services will even ship you a drive when you want to retrieve data, or let you send them a drive to populate data |
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| [01:48:22] | sheppard: | amazon offers it for a cost, and I think you only pay for bw |
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| [01:52:34] | Demon_Fox: | Anyone else having problems with storage directories |
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| [01:52:40] | Demon_Fox: | I even set /mnt/store |
| [01:52:56] | Demon_Fox: | and it can't find it or anything so it was using the default of /mnt/store |
| [01:53:02] | Demon_Fox: | which what is said. |
| [01:57:08] | Demon_Fox: | Better yet where is the configuration stored, perhaps I can post it on here? |
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| [03:19:33] | hmm: | hi can anyone help me figure out how to transcode recordings to mp4 instead of mpeg2? I have myth 0.26 installed. Under the mythtv-setup: recording profile I see two profile groups Ceton Recorder and Transcoder. I can't change any settings under the Ceton Recorder profile but I can under Transcoder which I already changed to mp4. |
| [03:19:57] | Demon_Fox: | that is a container |
| [03:20:05] | Demon_Fox: | and if you mean mpeg4 |
| [03:20:10] | Demon_Fox: | which one? |
| [03:20:15] | Demon_Fox: | xvid or h.264? |
| [03:20:30] | hmm: | I dunno I just clicked on the option for mp4. I assumed mythtv already had a codec?\ |
| [03:20:31] | Demon_Fox: | I mean |
| [03:20:45] | hmm: | Do I need to download a package? |
| [03:20:48] | Demon_Fox: | there is h.263 and h.264 |
| [03:21:06] | Demon_Fox: | How fast is your computer? |
| [03:21:13] | hmm: | AMD A10. |
| [03:21:18] | hmm: | Is that fast enough? |
| [03:21:20] | Demon_Fox: | clock? |
| [03:21:26] | hmm: | default clock speed |
| [03:21:40] | Demon_Fox: | It ranges from 1.6Ghz to 3.2Ghz |
| [03:21:46] | hmm: | oh.. 3.2 |
| [03:21:49] | Demon_Fox: | One being twice as fast as the other |
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| [03:21:57] | hmm: | wait 4.2ghz |
| [03:22:02] | Demon_Fox: | overclocked? |
| [03:22:18] | hmm: | I think it might be... I got the A10 5800K |
| [03:22:24] | hmm: | 4.2 ghz with max turbo |
| [03:22:31] | Demon_Fox: | If you want h.264 which is supposed to be half the size of mpeg2 |
| [03:22:55] | hmm: | yes. that's what I want. I don't intend to keep any of the recordings |
| [03:22:57] | Demon_Fox: | hmm, that applies on to one core |
| [03:23:03] | wagnerrp: | hmm: you don't want to transcode to mp4 using mythtranscode |
| [03:23:15] | hmm: | oh? what do I use to transcode? |
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| [03:23:22] | wagnerrp: | anything it outputs will be MP4ASP in a .nuv container |
| [03:23:27] | Demon_Fox: | I use ffmpeg |
| [03:23:32] | Demon_Fox: | something like |
| [03:23:40] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, you don't want to transcode at all, unless you're doing it for use on an embedded dddddevice |
| [03:23:43] | wagnerrp: | like a phone |
| [03:24:13] | DrTodd: | hi all....I'm having trouble getting listing for a channel...can anybody help? |
| [03:24:19] | wagnerrp: | just use the lossless mpeg2 -> mpeg2 clipping |
| [03:24:24] | hmm: | Hmm... well I wanted to transcode, so that when I watch videos over the network, it could fast forward faster.. not sure if that happens... but I assume there's less data that needs to be transfered. |
| [03:24:32] | wagnerrp: | and if you're out of storage, buy more storage |
| [03:24:45] | Demon_Fox: | ffmpeg -i input.mpg -acodec faac -ab 128k -scodec copy -vcodec libx264 -preset veryslow -profile high -tune film output.mkv |
| [03:24:47] | hmm: | I am only using a 100mbit eithernet |
| [03:24:51] | Demon_Fox: | I get around 10fps |
| [03:24:52] | wagnerrp: | if you're watching videos over the network, you're talking about content that's going to be 16Mbps at peak |
| [03:25:18] | wagnerrp: | wired network is not your bottleneck on broadcast television |
| [03:26:07] | hmm: | Hmm.. ok... so it would take too long to convert to h264? |
| [03:26:07] | Demon_Fox: | That 10fps is for 480p, like on dvd |
| [03:26:19] | Demon_Fox: | I would say so |
| [03:26:23] | wagnerrp: | right, HD transcoding is _very_ slow |
| [03:26:28] | hmm: | wow.... didn't realize it was that slow |
| [03:26:29] | [R]: | that's what she said |
| [03:26:46] | Demon_Fox: | xvid is faster though |
| [03:26:56] | wagnerrp: | sufficiently slow that you're not saving yourself much in reduced storage costs compared to the increased electrical usage needed to transcode the content |
| [03:27:08] | hmm: | is xvid ugly compared to h264? |
| [03:27:17] | Demon_Fox: | larger files |
| [03:27:24] | Demon_Fox: | faster encoding |
| [03:27:27] | wagnerrp: | it is much less efficient |
| [03:27:43] | wagnerrp: | MPEG4ASP (xvid) is only modestly more efficient than MPEG2 |
| [03:27:51] | wagnerrp: | h264 is usually 2–3x more efficient |
| [03:28:07] | Demon_Fox: | h.264 is supposed to be half the size of mpeg2 |
| [03:28:21] | Demon_Fox: | Unless you use a hardware encoder |
| [03:28:35] | hmm: | I see... I always thought h.264 and xvid files were 1/4 the size of mpeg2 |
| [03:28:36] | Demon_Fox: | then it will be larger, usually. |
| [03:28:50] | Demon_Fox: | animations they dominate mpeg2 |
| [03:28:52] | wagnerrp: | that doesn't mean they're encoded by someone who knows what they're doing |
| [03:28:54] | Demon_Fox: | I mean |
| [03:28:59] | Demon_Fox: | on animations they dominate mpeg2 |
| [03:29:08] | wagnerrp: | the drop the resolution, and compromise quality |
| [03:30:11] | hmm: | how big is a mpeg2 file supposed to be? On verizon fios I recorded about 1:30h of discovery channel stuff and it took about 10gigs.. is that normal? |
| [03:30:17] | Demon_Fox: | perhaps if you go from yuv444 to yuv420 and use x264 |
| [03:30:34] | wagnerrp: | that's about right... digital recordings are typically 6–7GB/hr |
| [03:30:41] | Demon_Fox: | hmm, I would strip out commercials which saves 20% of space on average |
| [03:30:43] | wagnerrp: | and no one uses yuv444 |
| [03:30:58] | wagnerrp: | stripping commercials (and converting to a PS) saves 35–40% |
| [03:31:04] | hmm: | oh.. is there a setting to automatically get rid of commericals while recording? |
| [03:31:14] | Demon_Fox: | no, only after |
| [03:31:24] | wagnerrp: | no, you must go into edit mode, make a cut list, and perform a lossless mpeg2 -> mpeg2 transcode |
| [03:31:34] | hmm: | ohh I see... does it work well enough such that it doesn't accidently cut off material? |
| [03:32:06] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, It is having trouble finding my directories for storage |
| [03:32:18] | wagnerrp: | by "it", you mean "you"... you define the cutlist it uses for clipping |
| [03:32:27] | Demon_Fox: | then it says using the hard coded default of /mnt/store |
| [03:32:39] | Demon_Fox: | hmm, There is an automatic way, but this way is faster |
| [03:32:49] | hmm: | oh.. so I have to define the cut points, meaning I have to actually watch the thing? |
| [03:33:05] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, then I go into there and set /mnt/store and it still can't it. |
| [03:33:21] | wagnerrp: | hmm: you can usually do it in about 3–4 minutes for an hour long show in edit mode |
| [03:33:21] | Demon_Fox: | hmm, You can skip through it |
| [03:33:37] | wagnerrp: | Demon_Fox: means you haven't yet defined anything for that host in mythtv-setup |
| [03:33:46] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, I did |
| [03:33:57] | wagnerrp: | you ran mythtv-setup, on that machine? |
| [03:33:59] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, How can I grab the configuration to show you? |
| [03:34:01] | Demon_Fox: | I did |
| [03:34:26] | wagnerrp: | open mysql, "select * from storagegroup;"... pastebin the outpit |
| [03:34:43] | hmm: | ok.. thanks for the tips... |
| [03:35:09] | hmm: | another stupid question, when you delete using the frontend, does it delete the files right away or does it need to enter a queue or something? |
| [03:35:31] | wagnerrp: | it queues it up for the autoexpirer |
| [03:35:38] | wagnerrp: | which will clear it the next time it runs |
| [03:35:46] | wagnerrp: | it runs at minimum every 15 minutes |
| [03:35:48] | hmm: | when does the auto expire kick in? after there's no room? |
| [03:36:02] | wagnerrp: | it will run faster if you are actively recording |
| [03:36:09] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, hold on, I set some kind of password |
| [03:37:02] | hmm: | I set it to delete several hours ago, but I still see all the videos in the directory. |
| [03:38:48] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, Do you know where the config file for mysql is, so I get the password? |
| [03:38:58] | wagnerrp: | ~/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [03:38:59] | DrTodd: | anybody available to help with listings problem? |
| [03:39:11] | Demon_Fox: | oh I will just can't it then |
| [03:39:29] | wagnerrp: | DrTodd: can't help until you ask a specific question |
| [03:42:00] | wagnerrp: | DrTodd: chances are all your old analog channels will not be available over digital cable |
| [03:42:11] | wagnerrp: | they will be encrypted, and inaccessible without a cable box |
| [03:42:30] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, it says no database selected |
| [03:42:44] | wagnerrp: | with comcast, you can get a cablecard tuner, rent a cablecard from comcast, and use that to get access to anything short of the premium channels |
| [03:42:53] | wagnerrp: | Demon_Fox: the database will be defined in that file |
| [03:43:03] | wagnerrp: | probably mythconverg, run "use mythconverg;" |
| [03:43:04] | DrTodd: | the basic cable channels are unencrypted |
| [03:43:43] | Demon_Fox: | darkstarbyte will post the contents of config.xml on pastebin |
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| [03:44:03] | darkstarbyte: | http://dpaste.com/845040/ |
| [03:44:25] | wagnerrp: | that "databasename" line |
| [03:45:13] | darkstarbyte: | what about it? |
| [03:45:28] | wagnerrp: | DrTodd: then you will need to go into the channel editor, and define XMLTV IDs for each channel |
| [03:45:43] | wagnerrp: | darkstarbyte: that's the database, you need to "use mythconverg;" |
| [03:45:50] | wagnerrp: | and then run the other command |
| [03:47:07] | darkstarbyte: | shows up now |
| [03:47:17] | wagnerrp: | DrTodd: please do this in channel, i don't wish to keep switching back to PM |
| [03:47:48] | darkstarbyte: | !Demon_Fox you idiot |
| [03:48:07] | darkstarbyte: | jk |
| [03:48:12] | DrTodd: | I've had these sorts of problems before and I've done what has worked in the past but not working at the moment. |
| [03:48:34] | DrTodd: | is there a way to see what schedulesdirect think there is for a given channel.. |
| [03:48:53] | wagnerrp: | zap2it.com shows the same exact data |
| [03:48:54] | DrTodd: | maybe they haven't updated with the recent switchover by comcast? |
| [03:49:16] | wagnerrp: | if you check the specific channel links, the URL will show the same XMLTV ID as used by schedules direct |
| [03:52:51] | darkstarbyte: | Has anyone else using EIT notice that mythtv drops off shows after they are no longer showing on EIT? |
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| [03:53:19] | darkstarbyte: | wagnerrp, I ran what you said and I now get this again |
| [03:53:21] | darkstarbyte: | 2012-12–12 20:51:25.441565 E SG(Default): Unable to find any Storage Group Directories. Using hardcoded default value of '/mnt/store' |
| [03:53:36] | wagnerrp: | no, i was asking to see what it was set for |
| [03:53:44] | wagnerrp: | i wanted you to run that command, and pastebin the results |
| [03:53:49] | darkstarbyte: | oh let me go get that |
| [03:54:25] | darkstarbyte: | it is lost again |
| [03:54:36] | darkstarbyte: | ran mythconverg |
| [03:55:06] | wagnerrp: | echo "select * from storagegroup;" | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [03:55:16] | darkstarbyte: | http://pastebin.com/UDMw7ZAd |
| [03:55:50] | wagnerrp: | how are you running mythbackend? |
| [03:56:01] | darkstarbyte: | a virtual terminal |
| [03:56:08] | wagnerrp: | i mean... the command? |
| [03:56:16] | wagnerrp: | just "mythbackend"? or /etc/init.d/mythbackend start? |
| [03:56:23] | darkstarbyte: | mythbackend |
| [03:57:02] | wagnerrp: | and the machine you're running this on is named 'darkstar'? |
| [03:57:09] | darkstarbyte: | yes |
| [03:57:16] | darkstarbyte: | hence the nick |
| [04:04:39] | darkstarbyte: | then what? |
| [04:05:09] | wagnerrp: | don't know |
| [04:05:23] | wagnerrp: | assuming you're running mythbackend with that same config file, meaning it's hitting the same database |
| [04:05:29] | darkstarbyte: | Am I supposed to run with the init file instead? |
| [04:05:30] | wagnerrp: | actually... |
| [04:05:38] | wagnerrp: | select distinct hostname from settings; |
| [04:06:13] | darkstarbyte: | http://dpaste.com/845051/ |
| [04:07:53] | darkstarbyte: | I might need to downgrade my OS. |
| [04:08:12] | darkstarbyte: | Everything worked, and I would be able to hook up my external hard drive again. |
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| [04:13:24] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, nothing? |
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| [04:13:46] | wagnerrp: | i was expecting to see a second hostname show up, but there was none |
| [04:13:57] | wagnerrp: | only thing left is file permissions |
| [04:14:06] | Demon_Fox: | ok |
| [04:14:10] | Demon_Fox: | I will grab those |
| [04:14:32] | wagnerrp: | i mean as long as the user you're running mythbackend as has them, i can't think of anything else |
| [04:15:30] | darkstarbyte: | http://dpaste.com/845054/ |
| [04:15:39] | darkstarbyte: | I am. |
| [04:16:20] | wagnerrp: | this is a normal linux filesystem, not ntfs or something? |
| [04:16:30] | darkstarbyte: | ext4 |
| [04:16:35] | wagnerrp: | good enough |
| [04:16:41] | darkstarbyte: | ext2 for /boot |
| [04:18:28] | darkstarbyte: | I have 1Mb/s upload, perhaps I can send you an image of my hard drive and you can test it in a virtual machine. |
| [04:18:29] | darkstarbyte: | wait |
| [04:18:39] | darkstarbyte: | You also need the hardware |
| [04:18:48] | wagnerrp: | id rather not |
| [04:19:17] | darkstarbyte: | Any more ideas for this? |
| [04:19:30] | wagnerrp: | not currently |
| [04:20:12] | darkstarbyte: | Could you open up a dialog windows if you have any more ideas, I need to get to some sleep. |
| [04:20:14] | darkstarbyte: | ?* |
| [04:20:23] | wagnerrp: | ok |
| [04:20:52] | Demon_Fox: | night night from that laptop |
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| [07:38:10] | toeb: | hi, anyone an idea how to fix those logmessage of my frontend: MMUnix:CheckMountable: DBus interface error: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) |
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| [08:54:28] | u2641: | hello everyone. I've come hoping someone can help me solve an issue. I have been able to setup my tuners in the setup and scan channels |
| [08:55:02] | u2641: | but I can't get live to play at all. It drops me straight back to the menu. I've looked for backend logs but none are being generated. |
| [08:55:33] | u2641: | So I'm hoping to get this sorted to I can record and watch live tv |
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| [13:40:06] | bsilvereagle: | Is it possible to hav an IR remote do different things based on whether MythTV is in the main menu or wathcing live tv? |
| [13:41:06] | bsilvereagle: | For example, if I'm in livetv and hit "Guide" I expect the reaction from "S". However, if I'm anywhere else I want to be launched into Livetv with the EIT guide open. |
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| [13:47:54] | bas-t: | It should be possible indeed, but since it is not working like you want at the moment it sounds like a feature request to me. |
| [13:51:03] | bsilvereagle: | I found a few ticket requests and it was working for some people back in 08 but I don't think the tickets made it in the stable. Guess it's time for another round. |
| [13:52:16] | bsilvereagle: | next question :P has anyone successfully used softvol + alsa to control volume over HDMI? CEC didn't make it into 3.7 and my remotes aren't programmable. |
| [13:53:17] | bas-t: | 08, that's in the stone age, and yes i succeeded once or twice, never got it back though.. |
| [13:53:55] | bsilvereagle: | I fiddled around for an hour or so last night and didn't succeed. The IR blaster on the HVR2250 isn't alive so that's out too. |
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| [13:54:58] | bas-t: | same goes for the widely spread microsoft RC6 and clones, which i use |
| [13:55:44] | bas-t: | so still using 2 zappers |
| [13:57:12] | bas-t: | xbmc supports softvol over hdmi, but i don't like xbmc... |
| [13:57:48] | sheppard: | I love XBMC, just got livetv working with it. IT's awesome |
| [13:57:50] | bsilvereagle: | I thought it was an alsa thing? or xbmc does it by default? |
| [13:57:55] | sheppard: | gonna need more tuners soon |
| [13:58:16] | bas-t: | xbmc does it by default |
| [13:58:33] | bas-t: | no matter if you use alsa or pulse |
| [13:58:35] | bsilvereagle: | Buidling this for my parents while I'm home over winter break, and my dad settled on myth >> xbmc. |
| [13:59:06] | bas-t: | your dad is a wise man |
| [13:59:34] | bsilvereagle: | so if xbmc does it by default, is there a reason that code hasn't been ported? |
| [13:59:52] | bas-t: | are you kidding? |
| [14:00:13] | bsilvereagle: | ? |
| [14:00:46] | bas-t: | well afik the devs of the two projects don't interact very well |
| [14:00:54] | bas-t: | afaik* |
| [14:01:24] | bas-t: | plus they use different code base |
| [14:01:39] | bsilvereagle: | well I figured as much, but still. If someone you don't like bakes great cookies and you can get their recipe, why not bake great cookies yourself? |
| [14:02:13] | bas-t: | that's the base of microsoft's success |
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| [14:02:53] | bsilvereagle: | haha I guess. It's also the one of the great things about open source |
| [14:03:11] | bas-t: | unlike microsoft... |
| [14:03:22] | bsilvereagle: | the only success stories I'm seeing about softvol have Nvidia cards, this box has integrated intel |
| [14:03:58] | bas-t: | so maybe i can get it back, i have nvidia ion |
| [14:05:21] | bas-t: | btw, where did you read these storys? |
| [14:05:32] | bas-t: | stories* |
| [14:06:24] | bsilvereagle: | ubuntuforums |
| [14:06:28] | bas-t: | maybe they contain the info i need, and sadly forgot |
| [14:06:58] | bas-t: | search for mythtv+softvol? |
| [14:07:08] | bsilvereagle: | basically some .asoundrc mods, uh I was doing HDMI softvol linux |
| [14:07:57] | bsilvereagle: | │ aaas |
| [14:07:59] | bsilvereagle: | 09:06:23 bsilvereagle | ubuntuforums │ adante |
| [14:08:17] | bsilvereagle: | gah. bad paste |
| [14:08:36] | bsilvereagle: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1501027 |
| [14:08:52] | sheppard: | lol |
| [14:09:09] | bas-t: | i'll have a look, thanks |
| [14:12:36] | bas-t: | never heard of 'type softvol' before, i'm going to investigate this evening, you never know.. |
| [14:12:59] | bsilvereagle: | that's the only way I've seen tod o it, you were doing something else? |
| [14:15:13] | bas-t: | yeah, and i don't have sound issues using hdmi for ages, apart from the softvol not working in myth. it works perfectly ok in xbmc, so i doubt if this post leads to anything new. |
| [14:16:08] | bsilvereagle: | do you know how XBMC is doing it? custom alsa confs? |
| [14:16:45] | bas-t: | atm, i'm tweaking debian wheezy so the mate desktop integrates properly, fun project |
| [14:17:13] | bsilvereagle: | how is mate? I saw Fedora was shipping w/ it. I doubt it makes me leave i3. |
| [14:18:13] | bas-t: | mate rocks, i'm almost done |
| [14:18:27] | bas-t: | my asoun.conf: |
| [14:19:00] | bas-t: | pcm.!default { |
| [14:19:00] | bas-t: | type plug |
| [14:19:00] | bas-t: | slave { |
| [14:19:00] | bas-t: | pcm both |
| [14:19:00] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:19:01] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:19:03] | bas-t: | pcm.both { |
| [14:19:05] | bas-t: | type route |
| [14:19:07] | bas-t: | slave { |
| [14:19:09] | bas-t: | pcm multi |
| [14:19:11] | bas-t: | channels 4 |
| [14:19:15] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:19:15] | bsilvereagle: | or pastebin |
| [14:19:17] | bas-t: | ttable.0.0 1.0 |
| [14:19:19] | bas-t: | ttable.1.1 1.0 |
| [14:19:21] | bas-t: | ttable.0.2 1.0 |
| [14:19:23] | bas-t: | ttable.1.3 1.0 |
| [14:19:25] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:19:27] | bas-t: | pcm.multi { |
| [14:19:29] | bas-t: | type multi |
| [14:19:31] | bas-t: | slaves.a { |
| [14:19:33] | bas-t: | pcm tv |
| [14:19:35] | bas-t: | channels 2 |
| [14:19:37] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:19:39] | bas-t: | slaves.b { |
| [14:19:41] | bas-t: | pcm receiver |
| [14:19:45] | bas-t: | channels 2 |
| [14:19:47] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:19:49] | bas-t: | bindings.0.slave a |
| [14:19:51] | bas-t: | bindings.0.channel 0 |
| [14:19:53] | bas-t: | bindings.1.slave a |
| [14:19:55] | bas-t: | bindings.1.channel 1 |
| [14:19:57] | bas-t: | bindings.2.slave b |
| [14:19:59] | bas-t: | bindings.2.channel 0 |
| [14:20:01] | bas-t: | bindings.3.slave b |
| [14:20:03] | bas-t: | bindings.3.channel 1 |
| [14:20:05] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:20:07] | bas-t: | pcm.receiver { |
| [14:20:09] | bas-t: | type hw |
| [14:20:11] | bas-t: | card 0 |
| [14:20:15] | bas-t: | device 0 |
| [14:20:17] | bas-t: | channels 2 |
| [14:20:19] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:20:21] | bas-t: | pcm.tv { |
| [14:20:23] | bas-t: | type hw |
| [14:20:25] | bas-t: | card 1 |
| [14:20:27] | bas-t: | device 7 |
| [14:20:29] | bas-t: | channels 2 |
| [14:20:31] | bas-t: | } |
| [14:20:33] | bas-t: | this is for a shuttle xs35gt an other ion based machines |
| [14:20:35] | bas-t: | ok, my bad, i'll use pastebin next time |
| [14:21:15] | bsilvereagle: | so no softvol |
| [14:21:45] | bas-t: | well, i succeeded once or twice, using this config |
| [14:22:39] | bas-t: | but i compile often from git and i can't remember the head i used... |
| [14:24:19] | bsilvereagle: | ah. |
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| [14:31:38] | bas-t: | have to go, best of luck. |
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| [14:45:27] | bas-t: | bsilvereagle: success! i've got sofvol |
| [14:48:28] | bas-t: | i use 'ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVIDIA,DEV=1' for audio output device, and 'software' as a mixer device and 'PCM' as Mixer controls |
| [14:49:29] | bas-t: | Got to write this down somewhere, as i use two shuttles xs35GTV2 machines as frontends. |
| [14:49:30] | bsilvereagle: | those are myth settings? |
| [14:49:40] | bas-t: | yeah |
| [14:49:46] | bsilvereagle: | haha |
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| [14:50:56] | bas-t: | I did 'rescan' first, btw, i'm using fixes/0.26, today's head |
| [14:51:19] | bsilvereagle: | on a dial up connection, not chance of dl+compile. |
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| [14:51:33] | bas-t: | bummer... |
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| [14:53:33] | bas-t: | maybe someone living near your parents is willing to give you access to their high speed connection, then you can burn it on a DVD |
| [14:54:12] | bsilvereagle: | I was going to the local high school but they recently locked it, and the library limits your dl speed after 50MB |
| [14:55:03] | bas-t: | that's weird |
| [14:55:11] | sphery: | bsilvereagle: you'd need to check what your remote sends when you press Guide button and then check the key bindings in MythTV for TV Playback|GUIDE and the jump point Program Guide |
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| [15:00:36] | bsilvereagle: | sphery: I just got it, i was trying to use the jump livetv in guide but it only works for the straight program guide, like you alluded to. thanks again |
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| [15:12:19] | sphery: | ah, glad you got it (and, yeah, that one has no special handling--only the Program Guide jump point does) |
| [15:15:06] | bsilvereagle: | yeah I've realized that. I was under the impression that there was a jump point for nearly everything, but in the frontend "edit keys" menu I couldn't find a jumppoint for "Watch Recordings". Know of one? |
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| [15:27:48] | jams: | bsilvereagle, the jumpoint is named tv recording playback |
| [15:30:52] | bsilvereagle: | I don't know how I missed it, thanks jams |
| [15:31:59] | jams: | because you were looking for the word "watch" |
| [15:32:12] | jams: | i missed it on the first run through as well |
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| [15:39:01] | ragingmind: | I have a PVR250 and Myth 0.26 and think I have the same issues (unable to watch livetv and LONG delays when starting recordings in progress) as seen in bugs #11211 and #11229 but they haven't been updated in a couple weeks |
| [15:39:01] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11211 ** | |
| [15:39:01] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11229 ** | |
| [15:39:28] | ragingmind: | by chance anyone around that's familiar with the issue? |
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| [15:43:16] | jams: | ragingmind, not me but skd5aner may be around later. I know he has discussed it and live-tv in general with some devs |
| [15:45:00] | ragingmind: | k, thanks :) |
| [15:49:25] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i love how we're always the bad guy when it comes to refusing to assist illegal activity |
| [15:50:06] | Seeker`: | wagnerrp: how could you?! |
| [15:52:09] | ragingmind: | the one thing I've noticed that I don't see in the bug reports is that when playing any of my recordings it shows the program is 7min 55sec shorter than it actually is. for that last ~8 minutes it still plays but the indicator says I'm at the end and the time is stuck at whatever the total – 7:55 happens to be for that particular recording |
| [15:53:30] | bsilvereagle: | I added a button to ~/.mythtv/lircrc and mythtv isn't responding to it. irw sees it and the name irw sees is the name in lircrc. Is there another file that needs modified? |
| [15:54:01] | bsilvereagle: | in case it matters, it's "LiveTV" |
| [15:57:17] | bsilvereagle: | ..mispelled hauppauge, nvm |
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| [15:58:48] | ragingmind: | bsilvereagle, I've never had luck spelling it either |
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| [16:24:27] | bsilvereagle: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870840 |
| [16:24:59] | bsilvereagle: | The frontend and backend are the same machine, any idea how I would mod the hosts file for that since they both have the same hostname? |
| [16:26:02] | wagnerrp: | why would you need to touch your host's file? |
| [16:28:59] | bsilvereagle: | mythweb doesn't see any frontends w/ remote control abilities. That thread insinuates that it's because the backend can't resolve the frontend's hostname. |
| [16:29:15] | bsilvereagle: | I guess the last post of that thread |
| [16:32:15] | wagnerrp: | i guess mythweb doesn't use the database for name resolution of frontends... |
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| [16:35:09] | bsilvereagle: | hence the hosts file. So i think I just need to find the db entry for the frontend and add it to hosts with 127.0.0.1 |
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| [16:41:11] | sphery: | wagnerrp: exactly--and his style was so bold, too... The whole top-posting in defiance! |
| [16:42:20] | bsilvereagle: | where's the db w/ the info? |
| [16:42:26] | sphery: | bsilvereagle: mythweb uses the database for host name resolution |
| [16:42:42] | sphery: | the mythtv database |
| [16:42:46] | bsilvereagle: | so what I'm saying won't work? |
| [16:43:09] | sphery: | but don't go editing it directly... if you have misconfigured IP addresses, change them properly with mythtv-setup or mythfrontend -p |
| [16:43:23] | wagnerrp: | sphery: does it do that for frontends as well? |
| [16:43:37] | sphery: | pretty sure we've fixed all the places where it was using hostname |
| [16:43:53] | sphery: | though you may need to properly configure the host |
| [16:44:17] | wagnerrp: | if it's a combo fe/be, it should be configured |
| [16:44:23] | sphery: | (i.e. set it up as if it were a remote backend--meaning run mythtv-setup, and set only the General settings--for it to work) |
| [16:44:51] | sphery: | don't set SGs or Capture Cards or Video Sources or Input Configuration, and don't run mythbackend |
| [16:45:16] | bsilvereagle: | but if it's a combo doesn't myth-backend need to run? |
| [16:45:33] | wagnerrp: | you said you were running frontend and backend on the same machine |
| [16:45:39] | bsilvereagle: | right |
| [16:45:47] | sphery: | if it's a combo, then yeah, you'd run mythbackend |
| [16:45:47] | wagnerrp: | so it's a combo fe/be |
| [16:46:01] | sphery: | but if it's a combo, the IP address must already be configured for the rest of MythTV to work |
| [16:46:03] | wagnerrp: | he's saying IF it is a dedicated frontend |
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| [16:46:13] | bsilvereagle: | oh, gotcha |
| [16:46:27] | bsilvereagle: | in myth-setup it doesn't seem like there is a place to give the Ip addresses of frontends |
| [16:46:58] | wagnerrp: | there isn't, nor is there a place to give the IP addresses of backends |
| [16:47:10] | wagnerrp: | there's just a place to give the IP address of that profile |
| [16:47:33] | bsilvereagle: | so what was sphery talking about when he said don't edit ti directly and to use mythtv-setup? |
| [16:47:58] | wagnerrp: | the place in mythtv setup where you tell MythTV the IP address of that profile |
| [16:48:04] | sphery: | OK, guess it's using the host name for the remote control stuff |
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| [16:49:55] | bsilvereagle: | the only profiles I'm seeing are recording profiles.Sorry if it seems like I am completely missing something. |
| [16:50:33] | wagnerrp: | settings profile |
| [16:50:41] | wagnerrp: | all settings are keyed to a profile (or global) |
| [16:50:55] | wagnerrp: | and that profile name defaults to the system hostname |
| [16:51:36] | wagnerrp: | on the first page of the first section where you define the IP addresses, you're doing so for that current profile, and all mythtv applications which subsequently use that profile |
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| [16:52:27] | bsilvereagle: | mythtv-setup give mes 1. general 2. Capture Cards 3. Recording Profiles 4. Vid Sources 5. Input 6. Chann Editor 7. Storage 8 System events |
| [16:52:41] | wagnerrp: | the first section being 'General' |
| [16:53:44] | bsilvereagle: | in general there is nothing about profiles |
| [16:53:52] | wagnerrp: | since you're running a backend on that profile (machine), you already configured the settings sphery wants you to |
| [16:54:22] | wagnerrp: | meaning mythweb isn't using the database for name resolution of frontends |
| [16:54:26] | sphery: | but it turns out that the remote stuff does use name resolution, so you'll have to configure that, instead |
| [16:54:38] | bsilvereagle: | ohh. remote stuff? |
| [16:54:45] | bsilvereagle: | getting mythweb to use lirc? |
| [16:54:50] | wagnerrp: | remote control, in mythweb |
| [16:54:54] | wagnerrp: | no, has nothing to do with lirc |
| [16:55:49] | sphery: | the thread you referenced was talking about making MythWeb's remote control (using mythfrontend's Network Remote Control capability) work |
| [16:55:59] | sphery: | and for that you do need hostname resolution |
| [16:56:03] | sphery: | for the rest of mythweb, you don't |
| [16:56:43] | bsilvereagle: | right, I'm after the remote control. So how would I go about configuring it? |
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| [17:21:12] | bsilvereagle: | the backend (localhost) has an IP of 127.0.0.1. The frontned (mythtv) has an IP of 127.0.1.1 . I can telnet to local host but not 127.0.1.1 |
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| [18:36:24] | wagnerrp: | yeah... i remember something about that when the ServerPool stuff first went in |
| [18:36:42] | wagnerrp: | i have no idea why some distros choose to go against standard and use 127.0.1.1 |
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| [19:13:52] | lordking: | Hi everyone! My mythbuntu machine boots up and mythbackend isnt started. I don't know where to look for the cause (no signs of problems in dmesg, mythbackend.log). Do you guys have an idea? |
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| [19:44:53] | wagnerrp: | perhaps it is aborting because the network address you told it to listen on is not available? |
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| [19:55:48] | lordking: | I thought it would at least write something in the backend.log. But anyhow, isn't localhost available from the very beginning? |
| [19:56:16] | lordking: | Its a mythbuntu setup with frontend / backend on one pc |
| [19:57:16] | wagnerrp: | it should write something in your backend log, yes |
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| [20:07:09] | lordking: | Today I tried to add the service again to the runlevels but after a restart nothing happens. If I use "start mythbackend", it is up and running in seconds. Any idea where I could dig? |
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| [21:04:39] | lordking: | Yepp, its here |
| [21:04:58] | bill6502: | Then you don't need to work with SystemV runlevels. Upstart uses that .conf file. If you added links under /etc/rc?.d, I'd take them out. |
| [21:05:52] | lordking: | Okay, thanks for that. I'll take them out again. But still – why wouldn't mythbackend start? |
| [21:05:56] | bill6502: | To start it, I use: sudo start mythtv-backend |
| [21:06:11] | lordking: | Yeah, that works as well |
| [21:06:27] | lordking: | But why wouldn't the backend start automatically after bootup? |
| [21:07:42] | bill6502: | Don't know. Mine does. Note that in that .conf there is a pre-start section. If it fails, the backend won't start. |
| [21:08:04] | bill6502: | There would likely be information in /var/log/syslog for failures. |
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| [21:09:04] | lordking: | Okay... in the prestart section mysql is being stared. Okay. I'll take a look into that. syslog hasn't shown any backend errors, but maybe I'll find mysql errors |
| [21:11:12] | bill6502: | Also note near the top of that file: start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo ..., your network has to be up. |
| [21:11:39] | lordking: | No mysql errors in syslog |
| [21:11:55] | lordking: | Ah okay... and how would I know if that is the case? |
| [21:11:58] | lordking: | Syslog again? |
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| [21:13:21] | bill6502: | Hmmm, not sure what to do without any logging. You can add a line right after: pre-start script in the .conf. For example: echo "The pre-start started" >> /tmp/pre-start-started and |
| [21:13:29] | bill6502: | then check to see if the file is there. |
| [21:13:35] | lordking: | Wait. The PC has an interface, but is not connected. Is that a problem? |
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| [21:14:04] | lordking: | I tried that, added a script section, also an echo as you suggested, but the file is not created |
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| [21:14:29] | Demon_Fox: | wagnerrp, Did you ever figure out anything to try? |
| [21:14:45] | bill6502: | lordking: Very likely. What do you get when you type ifconfig (pastebin please.) |
| [21:18:34] | bill6502: | lordking: Or, if you suspect a network problem, TEMPORARILY change the test from " and net-device-up IFACE!=lo" to " and net-device-up IFACE=lo" |
| [21:20:06] | lordking: | bill6502: okay let me just try that |
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| [21:30:21] | lordking: | bill6502: No luck right now but somehow my vdr pc is now overheated. It beeps and shuts itself down. Seems as if I first need to check the hardware... thank you for your tips though, I'll try them as soon as I get the hardware fixed |
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