| Thursday, December 6th, 2012, 00:02 UTC | ||
| [00:02:41] | Jonathan_: | Well I was getting that error as well but I'm not now |
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| [00:10:19] | Jonathan_: | Now I have another issue where I can't get into the frontend. From the commandline I get what looks like it starting but end up with no GUI interface. I did to start with but after putting in (what I think are) the backend settings I get this |
| [00:18:18] | \malex\: | is EIT on over the air channels supposed to be so bad? for a lot of network chanenls (ABC, CBS, etc) the descriptions are from completely different shows |
| [00:22:45] | dekarl: | \malex\: yes (for the US) but there also was some bugs related to the description of one event ending up in another |
| [00:25:06] | dekarl: | \malex\: I'm thinking of issues like http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6663 |
| [00:25:07] | \malex\: | dekarl: ah, thanks. i'll have to see if there is a newer 0.26 version i should be using |
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| [00:35:13] | \malex\: | dekarl: hmm, that's possible, though it's happening with the majority of programs on many channels. not sure if they all would have had null descriptions |
| [00:35:45] | \malex\: | i should try adding some debugging config options and see what's going on |
| [00:35:50] | \malex\: | thanks for the pointer |
| [00:40:04] | sheppard: | anyone familiar with haupblast.exe ? |
| [00:40:21] | sheppard: | just curious how I'd get it to send OKAY |
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| [00:46:59] | wagnerrp: | sheppard: that sounds like a windows program... not something you're likely to find help with in here |
| [00:48:09] | sheppard: | wow, a .exe is a windows program? no way |
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| [00:50:41] | wagnerrp: | meaning... mythtv doesn't support any kind of hardware access on windows machines |
| [00:51:05] | wagnerrp: | so there would be no reason for mythtv to be using an IR blaster on a windows machine, or for most of the people in here to have any experience doing so |
| [00:51:25] | sheppard: | wagnerrp: just stop talking |
| [00:51:48] | wagnerrp: | in other words... a linux-centric channel is not going to be the best place to look for help with windows software |
| [00:53:07] | wagnerrp: | my intent was not to be rude, merely informative... |
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| [01:44:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | I'm with wagnerrp on this one. ;-) |
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| [01:49:11] | tonsofpcs: | is there a way for the upnpav 'server' to continuously update clip-length (or whatever needs to happen in that space) so that if a show is being recorded and you start watching by upnp you can watch the whole thing (since the file will eventually be the full show length)? currently it seems that you're limited to the duration available when you start watching |
| [01:51:16] | skd5aner: | dekarl: dude... let's just fork mythbrainz and make tvbrainz ourselves |
| [01:51:38] | skd5aner: | DOH |
| [01:51:43] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: if you know the protocol to know what needs to be done to make that work, by all means do so |
| [01:51:44] | skd5aner: | I mean musicbrainz, ha |
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| [01:53:05] | wagnerrp: | [R]: i think you'll appreciate this one.... |
| [01:53:20] | wagnerrp: | seems a former F1 driver just started a new meme... http://twitter.com/takiinoue/statuses/273714782492831744 |
| [01:53:42] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: I could protocol dive but I wouldn't trust my ability to write the code to make it work. |
| [01:53:43] | [R]: | ROFL |
| [01:53:52] | tonsofpcs: | I'd be glad to mock up some psuedocode though |
| [01:54:06] | ** tonsofpcs is not a coder ** | |
| [01:54:31] | wagnerrp: | i think beirdo might have some understanding of the relevant issue |
| [01:56:17] | tonsofpcs: | heck, you could even present it as a 'stream' so long as the backend can provide the data steadily (and, following this, you could probably stream live channels) |
| [01:57:03] | tonsofpcs: | I do wonder though, is there a http access to the tuner(s) such that I ccould generate a URL for "watch 12.1"? |
| [01:57:46] | wagnerrp: | nope, there is not currently any access to live streaming in the services api |
| [01:59:07] | tonsofpcs: | darn. In theory, those could be provided by UPNPAV as well... (I'm not sure about the practice... I know Serviio supports serving up streams but I think it acts as a reflector for them... that said, I suppose mythtv could do similar) |
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| [02:01:33] | GHirsch516: | will Myth tune into HBO channels using the HDHomerun Prime with Verizon Fios? |
| [02:02:50] | [R]: | GHirsch516: depends on what cci flags they set in your area |
| [02:03:23] | GHirsch516: | I just got off the phone with Verizons support and they said I shouldnt have an issue but I dont think they really knew themselves.. |
| [02:03:49] | wagnerrp: | chances are that no, you will not be able to access them through mythtv |
| [02:04:10] | wagnerrp: | if they are flagged anything but 'copy freely', it will prohibit access by anything but windows MCE |
| [02:04:31] | GHirsch516: | i see |
| [02:04:38] | ** tonsofpcs wonders... what makes MCE so special? ** | |
| [02:04:41] | wagnerrp: | depending on what tuner you have, you can probably find instructions on how to put it into a diagnostic mode that will show you the current copy control flag |
| [02:04:52] | GHirsch516: | MS has some sort of license |
| [02:05:12] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: several million dollars spent making vista/7/8 capable of protecting content from the user |
| [02:05:41] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: and yet, I can still stick a CCD right in front of an LCD.... |
| [02:06:00] | GHirsch516: | im kind of surprised that HBO and Cinemax are the only stations that are copy protected with Fios |
| [02:06:26] | wagnerrp: | verizon and comcast tend to be lenient with that, and only mark the premiums for protection |
| [02:06:35] | wagnerrp: | if you've got time warner, everything is marked for protection |
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| [02:11:46] | GHirsch516: | im really digg'n having Fios tv within xbmc using the myth front end.. |
| [02:11:55] | GHirsch516: | if i only could get hbo though :( |
| [02:12:55] | wagnerrp: | HDPVR and a cable box |
| [02:14:32] | GHirsch516: | wow, nice.. i never seen that product.. i just got the HDHomerun Prime |
| [02:15:12] | wagnerrp: | if you can do digital capture, do it... consider something like an HDPVR as a last resort |
| [02:15:35] | wagnerrp: | external tuners are a pain in the ass |
| [02:15:53] | wagnerrp: | (external tuners being ones mythtv needs an external changer script to control) |
| [02:19:22] | GHirsch516: | what do you use for your htpc? |
| [02:19:52] | wagnerrp: | regular HDHR, and a HVR-1250 |
| [02:20:43] | GHirsch516: | what front end? |
| [02:21:05] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend? |
| [02:21:53] | GHirsch516: | ok |
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| [02:24:46] | GHirsch516: | im liking the the new release of xbmc frodo. The pvr functionality is pretty lean but i think they finally integrated live tv nicely.. |
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| [02:36:53] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: Beirdo: I suppose the upnp framework might also be able to check with the backend/db how long the recording is supposed to run for and set that as the duration too... (just guessing) |
| [02:37:17] | wagnerrp: | right now, the upnp framework doesn't use duration, it uses file size |
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| [02:38:11] | tonsofpcs: | ah |
| [02:38:24] | tonsofpcs: | anyway, back to current realities |
| [02:38:38] | tonsofpcs: | looking at the mythweb status page, I see the following: |
| [02:40:23] | tonsofpcs: | Current: Encoder 1: WBNG-DT, ends at 10p; Encoder 3: WBGH-HD, ends at 10p. (two encoders per tuner so this is two different tuners). Schedule: 10pm: Encoder 1: WIVT-2; Encoder 3: WBNG-DT.... |
| [02:41:39] | tonsofpcs: | why doesn't it just keep WBNG-DT on Encoder 1? Also, since I have four tuners (2x HDHR-Duals) and there's four ATSC channels in the area, is there a way I can set 1:1 but have it automatically map as necessary if one of the HDHRs disappears? |
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| [02:42:47] | wagnerrp: | how many tuners do you see on the status page in mythweb? |
| [02:43:13] | tonsofpcs: | 8 encoders (4 tuners) |
| [02:43:29] | wagnerrp: | ok, just making sure it wasn't something with virtual tuners |
| [02:43:45] | tonsofpcs: | (I'd also then change them to handle 3 each as one of the ATSC muxes has 3 visual programs) |
| [02:44:09] | wagnerrp: | actually, it's useful to have more virtual tuners than channels on a mux |
| [02:44:18] | wagnerrp: | mythtv uses virtual tuners to account for overlap |
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| [02:44:35] | wagnerrp: | say you have back-to-back recordings on a single channel |
| [02:44:45] | tonsofpcs: | it doesn't seem to be doing so here... in fact, it seems to be cutting a tune-away when it shouldn't need to |
| [02:44:48] | wagnerrp: | and you want to add padding to both, start one early, end the other late |
| [02:44:55] | tonsofpcs: | especiall since I have 10s pre-padding and 15s post-padding set. |
| [02:45:09] | wagnerrp: | it can use virtual tuners to allow a single physical tuner to handle that |
| [02:45:15] | wagnerrp: | padding is set in minutes, not seconds |
| [02:45:25] | tonsofpcs: | global, not local |
| [02:45:50] | wagnerrp: | the global setting is not padding for discrepancies in time, but to account for hardware |
| [02:46:04] | wagnerrp: | hardware that may take some amount of time to turn on |
| [02:46:14] | ** tonsofpcs loads it up so he's talking about the right config option ** | |
| [02:46:35] | wagnerrp: | recording padding is done per recording rule, and is only granular to the minute |
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| [02:52:49] | tonsofpcs: | ok, set them all to four... I guess that setting is in mythfrontend somewhere... |
| [02:53:05] | tonsofpcs: | I know that somewhere I was able to set in seconds a pre- and post-roll for recordings |
| [02:53:29] | wagnerrp: | but that padding doesn't do what you think |
| [02:53:54] | wagnerrp: | it is only applied if the tuner isn't in use elsewhere |
| [02:54:13] | tonsofpcs: | right, I read that. I get that. |
| [02:54:51] | tonsofpcs: | it won't record extra on the end of a 9pm 1hr or on the beginniing of a 10pm 1hr if I'm recording both. |
| [02:56:00] | tonsofpcs: | I'm using it for slop for temporal differences. I don't mind if that 15s ends up in the 'next show'. I do mind if I miss it. |
| [02:57:09] | tonsofpcs: | anyway, it shouldn't be retuning Encoder 1 and Encoder 3 (Tuner X-0 and Y-0) if Encoder 1 is useful where it is and Encoder X-1 and Y-1 are available too... |
| [02:57:34] | tonsofpcs: | I kinda expect it to just set the first tuner to the first thing I ever use, the second to the next, the third next, the fourth next, then if/when it gets a conflict retune as necessary. |
| [02:57:47] | tonsofpcs: | This clearly is not what is happening. |
| [02:58:35] | wagnerrp: | if you add padding to the recording rules, the tuner will be forced to stay on mux during the show change, and that will automatically happen |
| [02:59:06] | tonsofpcs: | but I shouldn't need to add padding. Tuning takes non-zero time. |
| [02:59:25] | tonsofpcs: | Even if tuning did take zero time, it's a waste of resources to move tuners around when it isn't necessary. |
| [03:00:39] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i've never looked into the scheduler to see what it would take to make selection of tuners a bit more intelligent |
| [03:00:58] | tonsofpcs: | well, is there a way that I can 'prioritize' a channel to a specific tuner? |
| [03:01:04] | wagnerrp: | no |
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| [03:01:38] | tonsofpcs: | I mean, since I have 4 tuners and 4 channels, can I just say "If you want to record from 7, try Tuner 1 first. From 8? Tuner 2; from 34, Tuner 3; from 42, Tuner 4" |
| [03:02:02] | [R]: | why |
| [03:03:21] | tonsofpcs: | first, less retunings = fewer lost GOPs. second, I can tweak the antenna systems per-tuner to be better for the channels on that tuner. third, easier to track issues |
| [03:03:38] | tonsofpcs: | I'm sure there's plenty of other reasons, but this should easily be enough. |
| [03:03:55] | [R]: | if youd ont want a tuner to use cahnenl |
| [03:03:57] | [R]: | dont put it in the list |
| [03:04:40] | tonsofpcs: | I still want it to be available — in case tuner 3 and 4 die (power supply or networking issues), tuner 1 and 2 should be able to still provide for most things |
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| [04:18:55] | skd5aner: | sphery: you around? |
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| [05:44:44] | sheppard: | ugh |
| [05:44:49] | sheppard: | yay hardlock |
| [05:45:01] | sheppard: | goddamn crappy hdpvr |
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| [06:47:43] | FinnTux: | hey. got a problem with watch recordings list. I have few recordings that show up on list only through "All Programs". If I scroll down to the program on the left list the right side says ""There are no recordings in your current view" |
| [06:48:20] | FinnTux: | Recording plays ok if I start it via "All Programs" |
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| [06:56:14] | dekarl: | skd5aner: but but but... Then we have to copy all the persons. Isn't one Hoff enough? |
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| [07:00:39] | FinnTux: | oh here it is http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11200. compile time... |
| [07:01:13] | sheppard: | NoTrans: Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=75, backend=72) |
| [07:01:14] | sheppard: | buh? |
| [07:01:39] | dekarl: | tonsofpcs: if you have as many tuners as physical channels, why not look at mumudvb and just stream all channels to the network and record with a bunch of iptv recorders? No more returnes, no more issues due to multirec and back2back not being 100% |
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| [07:03:33] | dekarl: | sheppard: that sounds like running a 0.26 mythweb against a 0.25 backend (from looking at the list of bumps http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Myth_Protocol ) |
| [07:04:43] | sheppard: | I set in the myth control center to run 0.26 |
| [07:04:51] | sheppard: | just do a dist-upgrade? |
| [07:05:45] | dekarl: | sounds good (I'm not so good with ubuntu updates, though) |
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| [08:05:15] | sheppard: | was looking at grabbing a black magic card for capping component video, but no spdif/optical input =/ |
| [08:09:57] | henkpoley: | Why is this happening ? :: TVRecEvent mythcorecontext.cpp:299 (ConnectToMasterServer) ERROR: Master backend tried to connect back to itself |
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| [08:11:22] | dekarl: | sheppard: according to the vendor the hdpvr has optical audio input, see http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html |
| [08:15:30] | sheppard: | dekarl: yes, I have one of those. the driver is awful so far |
| [08:15:46] | sheppard: | also, will mythtv not record a program that's already in progress? |
| [08:16:12] | dekarl: | sheppard: it does record a program in progress if it can't find a later showing |
| [08:18:29] | sheppard: | Alright |
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| [08:31:42] | tonsofpcs: | dekarl: that's a power hog... although interesting |
| [08:32:03] | tonsofpcs: | also, see redundancy/failover possibilities |
| [08:33:47] | sheppard: | Encoder 1 [ HDPVR : /dev/video0 ] is local on mythbuntu and is recording 'She-Ra: Princess of Power' on TOONR. This recording is scheduled to end at 2:00 AM. |
| [08:33:50] | sheppard: | :O |
| [08:35:25] | tonsofpcs: | she-ra! |
| [08:41:48] | dekarl: | tonsofpcs: I keep reading of people who run it on small devices like the elgato netstream (device similar to HDHR), so it can't be that bad |
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| [08:51:31] | dekarl: | see http://mumudvb.braice.net/mumudrupal/node/57 |
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| [08:58:15] | be_good_johnny: | hi everyone. I'm unable to get my frontend up and running. when I run mythfrontend I don't get into the frontend after the intial setup screen |
| [08:58:35] | be_good_johnny: | http://pastebin.com/mgX4UdWi |
| [08:58:40] | be_good_johnny: | Hoping someone can help me |
| [09:02:18] | be_good_johnny: | And there is nothing in the logs |
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| [09:04:21] | dekarl: | be_good_johnny: 2012-12–06 14:48:05.856679 E Unable to connect to database! |
| [09:04:35] | dekarl: | sounds like your database is not listening on 192.168.1.40 |
| [09:05:53] | be_good_johnny: | Any idea on what I should be looking at to fix it? |
| [09:06:21] | dekarl: | which distribution is that? |
| [09:06:35] | be_good_johnny: | Arch Linux |
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| [09:08:43] | dekarl: | hmm, no idea. there should be a my.cnf with a line "bind-address = <someip>" see http://articles.slicehost.com/2011/3/10/confi . . . rver-on-arch |
| [09:09:34] | dekarl: | that adress should likely be 0.0.0.0 (to listen on all available addresses) |
| [09:11:44] | be_good_johnny: | I haven't been able to find that line in /etc/mysql/my.cnf but blocked out skip-networking |
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| [09:14:06] | be_good_johnny: | under that guide the spot where it would be it isn't there http://pastebin.com/wVXEPTZv |
| [09:16:22] | sheppard: | is there a multithreaded variant to mythcommflag in 0.26? |
| [09:16:23] | dekarl: | if you removed a line "skip-networking" that might be all it takes |
| [09:17:10] | dekarl: | sheppard: what would that be good for? its faster then realtime on most hardware anyway. You can just run multiple in parallel (e.g. when recording multiple programs at the same time) |
| [09:17:12] | sheppard: | 17 minutes later it's still trying to find the logo |
| [09:17:28] | sheppard: | oh |
| [09:17:30] | sheppard: | next stage! |
| [09:18:04] | be_good_johnny: | I commented it out but it didn't help |
| [09:18:21] | dekarl: | be_good_johnny: just to be sure. you did restart the mysql server after the change? |
| [09:18:34] | be_good_johnny: | I just did that. About to test |
| [09:19:01] | dekarl: | if the frontend is remote it might also be a firewall that got enabled by default |
| [09:21:04] | sheppard: | 100fps, so slow :( |
| [09:21:32] | sheppard: | can't wait to see how my first recording comes out |
| [09:27:30] | sheppard: | Dec 6 02:26:08 mythbuntu mythlogserver: mythcommflag[4590]: E Decoder avformatdecoder.cpp:4506 (GetFrame) decoding error#012#011#011#011eno: Unknown error 541478725 (541478725) |
| [09:27:34] | sheppard: | wuh-oh |
| [09:28:05] | KaZeR: | hi there |
| [09:37:55] | dekarl: | sheppard: #10816 has the same error with mythtranscode, #11159 has playback issues with HD-PVR and 0.26. So its not just you, but I've no idea what that could be. |
| [09:37:55] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10816 ** | |
| [09:37:55] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11159 ** | |
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| [09:41:41] | be_good_johnny: | At the moment I can't even get into mysql. I think something is up with it. I removed it and reinstalled |
| [09:42:15] | be_good_johnny: | But still have can't connect ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| [09:44:48] | sheppard: | dekarl: thank you so much |
| [09:44:55] | sheppard: | MythLogBot: thanks to whomever coded you |
| [09:47:52] | sheppard: | SHE-RA! |
| [09:54:48] | sheppard: | well |
| [09:54:53] | sheppard: | recording has commercials |
| [09:55:00] | sheppard: | and livetv doesn't seem to like writing to a nfs share |
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| [10:15:42] | dekarl: | sheppard: mythtv likes to record to local disks. you can move the files around to remote backends later (within the same storage group) http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Storage_Groups |
| [10:16:23] | sheppard: | I was doing recorded stuff to the nfs share without incident |
| [10:16:31] | sheppard: | just didn't seem to like livetv |
| [10:16:46] | dekarl: | you can even script that based on various events http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_System_Events |
| [10:19:21] | dekarl: | can you move the disk and hdpvr to the same computer? its one point of failure less (e.g. switch hickup, accidential cable pull, etc) |
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| [10:24:36] | sheppard: | hdpvr is on one box, storage is on another |
| [10:24:44] | sheppard: | but backend runs on hdpvr box |
| [10:31:14] | be_good_johnny: | is there anywhere else I have to specify who can connect to the database? I just blew it away and recreated. No Joy |
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| [10:37:09] | branden_: | So when you mark something to be cut, does it cut the frame you marked or the frame after? |
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| [10:44:44] | branden_: | Sorry disconnect |
| [10:44:51] | branden_: | if someone said something I did not get it. |
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| [11:14:56] | stuartm: | after |
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| [11:22:44] | be_good_johnny: | is there anywhere else I have to specify who can connect to the database? I just blew it away and recreated. No Joy |
| [11:23:05] | lapion: | anyone how to prevent a mce remote control unit from "double taping" |
| [11:25:06] | lapion: | *tapping |
| [11:28:35] | stuartm: | lapion: in the lirc config you can specify the repeat rate |
| [11:32:50] | sheppard: | be_good_johnny: are you just trying to talk to mysql, or myth as well |
| [11:33:09] | dekarl: | sheppard: The MythTV way would be running the master backend (and likely database) on the storage box and a slave backend on the hdpvr box. With frontends all around. Record locally and move it later to the big disk. |
| [11:34:25] | be_good_johnny: | I am trying to do the initial connection. Once I set the settings in the mythfrontend setup I get dropped back out then it doesn't connect up I just get database error connection |
| [11:34:26] | sheppard: | Hmmm |
| [11:34:48] | sheppard: | be_good_johnny: what os is the frontend box? |
| [11:35:44] | be_good_johnny: | Arch Linux |
| [11:35:56] | be_good_johnny: | Error is here http://pastebin.com/mgX4UdWi but that is all I get |
| [11:36:28] | sheppard: | be_good_johnny: have you tried mysql -udbusername -p -hremote.box.ip.here ? |
| [11:36:54] | be_good_johnny: | No. Do I do that on the frontend? |
| [11:37:03] | sheppard: | yes |
| [11:38:01] | be_good_johnny: | I got: ERROR 2005 (HY000): Unknown MySQL server host 'remote.box.ip.here' (0) |
| [11:38:03] | be_good_johnny: | [mythtv@lounge ~]$ |
| [11:38:14] | sheppard: | like |
| [11:38:15] | sheppard: | not literally |
| [11:38:18] | clever: | you need to give it the actual ip of the mysql server |
| [11:38:22] | be_good_johnny: | Sorry I just realised |
| [11:38:37] | sheppard: | and change dbusername |
| [11:38:41] | sheppard: | to mythtv |
| [11:38:48] | sheppard: | or whoever has permission to access the mysql database |
| [11:39:25] | be_good_johnny: | so it would be mysql-mythtv -p -192.168.1.40 ? |
| [11:39:43] | clever: | mysql -u mythtv -p -h 192.168.1.40 |
| [11:39:48] | sheppard: | what clever said |
| [11:40:19] | be_good_johnny: | ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.40' (111) |
| [11:40:46] | clever: | is mysql configured to listen on that ip? |
| [11:41:07] | sheppard: | be_good_johnny: are you logged in remotely to the other computer? |
| [11:41:15] | sheppard: | via ssh/whatever |
| [11:41:20] | clever: | (run 'grep bind-address /etc/mysql/my.cnf' on the mysql server) |
| [11:41:32] | be_good_johnny: | yeah because it is the garage |
| [11:41:37] | sheppard: | and do exactly what clever said |
| [11:41:56] | sheppard: | clever: I've got a feeling he hasn't added the user |
| [11:42:07] | be_good_johnny: | without the ' |
| [11:42:11] | clever: | the last error implies that it couldnt even connect |
| [11:42:12] | sheppard: | or forgot the @% |
| [11:42:13] | clever: | be_good_johnny: yeah |
| [11:43:31] | be_good_johnny: | is that command meant to be run on the backend? |
| [11:43:34] | justinh: | woohoo. I finally got mythnetvision to do *something* |
| [11:43:37] | clever: | be_good_johnny: yes |
| [11:43:51] | justinh: | stupid me didn't have the latest python bindings installed |
| [11:44:18] | be_good_johnny: | okay ran that. Do I need to restart mysql and then try the frontend? |
| [11:44:30] | clever: | be_good_johnny: that command doesnt change anything, what was the output? |
| [11:44:31] | justinh: | no |
| [11:44:40] | be_good_johnny: | Nil output |
| [11:44:44] | justinh: | what? |
| [11:44:54] | justinh: | oh wait.. maybe my.cnf is just in /etc |
| [11:45:12] | clever: | if it didnt exist, it should have given an error saying so |
| [11:45:30] | justinh: | but if the line is totally missing from the .cnf file... that'd be *weird* |
| [11:45:31] | be_good_johnny: | it is there because I commented out the skip-networking before |
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| [11:45:47] | be_good_johnny: | Yeah that line isn't in it. I looked for it before |
| [11:45:52] | sheppard: | justinh: normal for rhel |
| [11:45:56] | clever: | be_good_johnny: and your sure its at 192.168.1.40? |
| [11:46:21] | be_good_johnny: | Yep. I'm ssh in at the moment and set static |
| [11:46:34] | clever: | be_good_johnny: can the frontend ping that ip? |
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| [11:46:58] | be_good_johnny: | yep. Just did it then. |
| [11:47:30] | sheppard: | yeah |
| [11:47:37] | sheppard: | he needs to do a proper grant for the user |
| [11:47:57] | clever: | sheppard: nope, the error 111 above is 'Connection refused' |
| [11:48:03] | clever: | its not even getting that far |
| [11:48:09] | clever: | be_good_johnny: netstat -anp|grep 3306 |
| [11:48:15] | clever: | be_good_johnny: what does this give, on the backend? |
| [11:48:17] | justinh: | rhel does some pretty silly things by default |
| [11:48:46] | justinh: | like when you install applications it doesn't automatically set them up to run as services when you'd logically assume they'd want to be running. e.g. apache |
| [11:48:53] | be_good_johnny: | no output |
| [11:49:01] | clever: | be_good_johnny: ps aux|grep mysql, how about this? |
| [11:49:16] | justinh: | so mysql server isn't even running. that's a bad miss |
| [11:49:41] | sheppard: | justinh: just because I installed a program, doesn't mean I want it running |
| [11:49:50] | justinh: | sheppard: you might. I generally do |
| [11:49:59] | justinh: | rhel is just jobs for the boys. and MONEY |
| [11:50:00] | be_good_johnny: | http://pastebin.com/Tbp3kvnN |
| [11:50:18] | justinh: | most linuxes I've tried have pretty fatal flaws. they're all different :P |
| [11:50:56] | clever: | be_good_johnny: ok, so mysql is running, but its not listening over tcpip |
| [11:51:01] | clever: | did you restart it after you took out skip-networking? |
| [11:51:08] | be_good_johnny: | yes |
| [11:51:50] | be_good_johnny: | Just restarted it just incase |
| [11:52:05] | clever: | be_good_johnny: try this again, netstat -anp|grep 3306 |
| [11:52:21] | be_good_johnny: | Nil output |
| [11:52:40] | clever: | ok, might need to force it to listen on the network, not sure how they configured it at compile time |
| [11:52:48] | clever: | be_good_johnny: add this to the my.cnf, bind-address 192.168.1.40 |
| [11:52:55] | clever: | and restart again |
| [11:54:48] | be_good_johnny: | No it is hanging on starting |
| [11:55:01] | clever: | check the log files in /var/log/ |
| [11:55:13] | justinh: | syntax error in my.cnf ? ;-) |
| [11:55:31] | be_good_johnny: | I got this when I installed mysql http://pastebin.com/ePjjzMXy |
| [11:55:47] | justinh: | gah. rekong... DIE! |
| [11:55:54] | justinh: | rekonq, even. JUST DIE! |
| [11:55:58] | justinh: | DIE IN A FIRE! |
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| [11:56:41] | be_good_johnny: | error: http://pastebin.com/gfBGR2a0 |
| [11:56:45] | justinh: | oh wait.. I don't have to kill it. it crashes all by itself |
| [11:57:17] | justinh: | be_good_johnny: there you go. unknown option --bind-address |
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| [11:57:31] | be_good_johnny: | That is what we just add though |
| [11:57:54] | justinh: | don't think it should be '--bind-address' anyway |
| [11:58:20] | justinh: | maybe just "bind-address=ip.ad.dr.ess" |
| [11:58:31] | clever: | yeah |
| [11:59:06] | justinh: | oh god. don't tell me your distro has put in their own *special* customisation |
| [11:59:30] | clever: | # Instead of skip-networking the default is now to listen only on |
| [11:59:30] | clever: | # localhost which is more compatible and is not less secure. |
| [11:59:46] | clever: | the comments in my version imply that tcpip was disabled by default in older versions |
| [12:00:02] | be_good_johnny: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythfrontend |
| [12:00:21] | be_good_johnny: | So do I remove the bind? |
| [12:02:52] | be_good_johnny: | okay the bing need to be bind-address = 192.168.1.40 for it to restart |
| [12:03:41] | clever: | yep |
| [12:03:49] | clever: | now try connecting again, from the frontend |
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| [12:05:43] | be_good_johnny: | nope. Just keeps reconnecting me back to the database configuration page. If I disable skip-networking then I don't come back but don't enter the gui just sit in the cmd line |
| [12:06:01] | clever: | no, with the cli, mysql -u mythtv -p -h 192.168.1.40 |
| [12:06:43] | be_good_johnny: | Does this need tobe done direct on the computer not over ssh |
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| [12:08:10] | clever: | be_good_johnny: it works fine over ssh |
| [12:08:42] | be_good_johnny: | Okay. I just did it on the actual machine but after putting my password in it hasn't come back as yet |
| [12:09:49] | be_good_johnny: | Okay it came back with the same error as before that it can't connect |
| [12:10:13] | clever: | what was the exact error? |
| [12:10:47] | be_good_johnny: | ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.40' (111) |
| [12:11:26] | clever: | ok, check this again, netstat -anp|grep 3306 |
| [12:11:50] | be_good_johnny: | nil output |
| [12:12:08] | be_good_johnny: | [root@media media]# telnet 192.168.1.40 3306 |
| [12:12:10] | be_good_johnny: | Trying 192.168.1.40... |
| [12:12:11] | be_good_johnny: | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| [12:12:12] | clever: | ok, mysql isnt fixed then, no point in trying anything else till that works |
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| [12:17:06] | be_good_johnny: | I don't think I've ever had so much trouble setting myth up before |
| [12:17:22] | clever: | neither have i |
| [12:18:52] | be_good_johnny: | I've been stumped for days |
| [12:19:45] | sheppard: | is mysqld on your box calling my.cnf? |
| [12:19:55] | sheppard: | Bcause your ps output doesn't look normal |
| [12:20:23] | sheppard: | and there's no conf.d or anything under arch that's passing options to mysql? |
| [12:21:12] | be_good_johnny: | ? I wouldn't know how to tell. |
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| [12:22:57] | be_good_johnny: | previously when I ran this it failed at the end: http://pastebin.com/3igwS271 |
| [12:24:52] | be_good_johnny: | does this look right: http://pastebin.com/ufWATUSE it is my /usr/share/mythtv/mc.sql |
| [12:26:28] | be_good_johnny: | error 2003: http://faq.webyog.com//content/23/15/en/error . . . connect.html |
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| [12:36:05] | be_good_johnny: | is this better: [root@media media]# netstat -anp|grep 3306 |
| [12:36:07] | be_good_johnny: | tcp 0 0 192.168.1.40:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 5057/mysqld |
| [12:36:08] | be_good_johnny: | tcp 0 0 192.168.1.40:3306 192.168.1.40:35387 TIME_WAIT - |
| [12:36:10] | sheppard: | yes |
| [12:36:13] | sheppard: | that's much much better |
| [12:36:19] | sheppard: | and on |
| [12:36:24] | sheppard: | GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| [12:36:28] | sheppard: | you need |
| [12:36:37] | sheppard: | it to be mythtv@'%' |
| [12:36:48] | sheppard: | or 192.168.1.% |
| [12:37:00] | sheppard: | er |
| [12:37:03] | sheppard: | or 192.168.1.'%' |
| [12:37:42] | be_good_johnny: | Sorry where do I change that? |
| [12:37:52] | sheppard: | on |
| [12:37:53] | sheppard: | sec |
| [12:38:50] | sheppard: | http://pastebin.com/RPVv05fV |
| [12:38:51] | sheppard: | there |
| [12:39:21] | be_good_johnny: | Do I run that? |
| [12:39:25] | sheppard: | run that on the backend, inside of mysql |
| [12:39:44] | sheppard: | like: mysql -uroot -p |
| [12:39:48] | be_good_johnny: | okay standby |
| [12:39:50] | sheppard: | then paste it in at the mysql> prompt |
| [12:41:15] | be_good_johnny: | Do I run each light by itself? |
| [12:42:16] | sheppard: | sure |
| [12:42:39] | be_good_johnny: | I'm getting some errors |
| [12:43:12] | sheppard: | pastebin |
| [12:44:15] | be_good_johnny: | http://pastebin.com/rkJibhJi |
| [12:45:36] | sheppard: | sorry I'm tired |
| [12:45:44] | sheppard: | one second |
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| [12:46:23] | sheppard: | okay |
| [12:46:24] | sheppard: | jsut do |
| [12:46:34] | sheppard: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [12:46:41] | sheppard: | flush privileges; |
| [12:47:25] | be_good_johnny: | done |
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| [12:51:35] | be_good_johnny: | Do I get out of mysql and restart it then try the frontend |
| [12:52:36] | sheppard: | don't have to restart it |
| [12:52:39] | sheppard: | leave mysql with \q |
| [12:55:03] | be_good_johnny: | And I'm in. But now as soon as I go to watch tv I get kicked straight backout |
| [12:55:30] | sheppard: | lol |
| [12:55:36] | sheppard: | if it's not one thing, it's 12 others. |
| [12:56:38] | be_good_johnny: | yep. I had issues with the tuners but thought a patch had fixed (something about race condition) maybe it hasn't. |
| [13:02:51] | be_good_johnny: | They did work when I scanned in channels earlier so I'm wondering what the go is |
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| [13:13:37] | be_good_johnny: | Thanks for your help everyone. Much appreciated. Before I call it a night has anyone got any ideas re the tuners not working? |
| [13:13:50] | be_good_johnny: | They did setup ok and find the channels |
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| [13:24:07] | be_good_johnny: | How do I find out which user runs myth? |
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| [13:39:08] | justinh: | depends how the package you installed sets things up |
| [13:39:16] | justinh: | ideally they'd create a user called 'mythtv' |
| [13:39:35] | justinh: | ps -ef |grep myth :-) |
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| [13:40:30] | justinh: | doh. already left |
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| [14:07:08] | xavierh: | ping www.omgubuntu.co.uk |
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| [14:16:51] | xavierh: | hmm |
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| [14:59:19] | sheppard: | grr |
| [14:59:28] | sheppard: | slow write errors go away if I turn off immediate commerical stuff |
| [15:04:18] | sheppard: | where do I define mythcommskip methods/flags |
| [15:04:23] | sheppard: | or is it all in mythtv-setup |
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| [15:57:18] | justinh: | talk about a waste of screen space, that blog |
| [15:58:24] | justinh: | the very idea that some people like Unity. Hilarious! |
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| [16:06:32] | sphery: | sheppard: disable the setting you enabled in mythtv-setup: "Start auto-commercial-detection jobs when the recording starts: If enabled, and Auto Commercial Detection is ON for a recording, the flagging job will be started as soon as the recording starts. NOT recommended on underpowered systems." |
| [16:07:11] | sphery: | sheppard: note, also, that this may not fix the problem if you have an underpowered system--because it will still allow it to commercial flag the recording that completed at 9pm while it records the show that started at 9pm |
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| [16:07:38] | sphery: | sheppard: so you may need to set job queue start/end time to only include a period when you're unlikely to record |
| [16:07:58] | sheppard: | yeah, it's some funky issue with async stuff in zfsonlinux causing the slowdown I think |
| [16:08:20] | sheppard: | iowait on fileserver is 0, but peaks to 10% on the backend doing the encoding |
| [16:11:52] | sphery: | ah, AIUI, "underpowered" has a very different meaning with ZFS (and, probably, especially on Linux) |
| [16:12:09] | sphery: | (what would be considered powerful for other filesystems may be nowhere near enough for ZFS) |
| [16:12:28] | sphery: | IIRC, wagnerrp was saying he needed some 6GB+ to run it acceptably on his BSD box |
| [16:12:40] | wagnerrp: | ZFS doesn't eat up a whole lot of power, unless you're doing deduplication, or live compression |
| [16:12:43] | sphery: | (of RAM that is) |
| [16:12:46] | sheppard: | 64gb ram on the fileserver, dual xeon 2620's |
| [16:12:48] | wagnerrp: | for normal usage, memory is more important |
| [16:13:11] | wagnerrp: | 6GB is the recommended minimum from FreeNAS |
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| [21:25:58] | devinheitmueller: | Wow, HD-PVR sold out on Newegg. I wonder if it's the beginning of the end…. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116030 |
| [21:28:04] | wagnerrp: | end of manufacturing of those things? |
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| [21:28:52] | devinheitmueller: | yup |
| [21:29:32] | devinheitmueller: | Why would they continue? The HD-PVR2 is more functional cheaper, and better in essentially every way (except they haven't shipped a version with the IR blaster yet). |
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| [21:52:49] | wagnerrp: | and little chance for a linux driver? |
| [21:58:00] | devinheitmueller: | Hard to say. |
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| [21:58:23] | devinheitmueller: | Anything is possible with the right incentives. :-) |
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| [21:58:51] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i'd rather see support for the colossus than the hdpvr2 |
| [21:59:09] | devinheitmueller: | For the TV capture market, that doesn't surprise me. |
| [21:59:09] | wagnerrp: | never was a fan of usb hardware |
| [21:59:30] | awalls: | colossus +1 |
| [21:59:33] | devinheitmueller: | The appeal of the external USB appliance is really there for the gaming market. For a HTPC, an internal card is a better choice. |
| [21:59:45] | wagnerrp: | even if having an internal card doesn't mean much because i have to be capturing from an external cable box anyway |
| [22:00:02] | devinheitmueller: | (it's attractive to the gaming market because the pass-through lets you put the device right next to the TV) |
| [22:00:31] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, but one less cable and power brick is nice. |
| [22:00:49] | justinh: | well, so much for nvidia helping with flash playback. flashplugin still tears like hell :-( |
| [22:00:57] | justinh: | damn BBC & their Adobe love |
| [22:01:05] | devinheitmueller: | Oh, and the generation of encoders in the Colossus and HDPVR2 is worlds better than the original HDPVR. |
| [22:01:12] | wagnerrp: | well even that, you could break warranty on the old one and mount it internally, using the PSU's DC supply, and a USB header |
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| [22:01:36] | wagnerrp: | i just don't trust USB |
| [22:01:44] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: yeah, but who really wants to do that? |
| [22:02:19] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mounting_the_HD-PVR_Internally |
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| [22:03:30] | justinh: | somebody should just do a 3rd party plugin. To hell with site T&Cs once & for all |
| [22:03:57] | justinh: | play the flash stream directly instead :-) |
| [22:04:04] | awalls: | no emi shielding insikde pc chassis doesnt sound like a good idea |
| [22:04:28] | awalls: | best to leave usb devices outside the chassis |
| [22:05:00] | wagnerrp: | it gets that noisy in there? |
| [22:05:20] | justinh: | no noisier than it is for a pci tuner |
| [22:05:33] | justinh: | possibly less noisy than it is for a pci tuner |
| [22:05:45] | wagnerrp: | well presumably the PCI tuner is designed to handle that environment, but the USB tuner isnt |
| [22:05:47] | justinh: | PCs can still kick out nasty RF on USB ports anyway |
| [22:06:00] | justinh: | nah, the PSU still has to be adequately decoupled |
| [22:07:18] | wagnerrp: | i mean there are a number of USB tuners shoved onto PCBs with a PCI/USB hub |
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| [22:08:49] | devinheitmueller: | It's not a PCI versus USB thing – it's all about RF shielding and thermal design. |
| [22:09:57] | justinh: | tuners generate RF energy too, don't forget |
| [22:09:58] | devinheitmueller: | And it's just as possible to have sh**ty PCI devices as your an with USB devices – except when PCI devices do unexpected things they are far more likely to take the entire system with them. |
| [22:10:22] | tonsofpcs: | well, regenrate... |
| [22:10:26] | justinh: | there are plenty of unshielded crappy USB tuner devices I bet |
| [22:10:32] | wagnerrp: | i've had plenty of USB hard drives cause a kernel panic during data transfer |
| [22:10:32] | wagnerrp: | s |
| [22:10:38] | devinheitmueller: | Most USB tuners don't have shielding. |
| [22:10:40] | justinh: | tonsofpcs: no, they need a local oscillator still AFAIK |
| [22:11:19] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: that's a failure of the Linux kernel developers responsible for the USB stack, not a failure of USB as an architecture. |
| [22:11:32] | wagnerrp: | i've had PCI devices prevent a system from booting, but i don't know if i've ever had one take a system down |
| [22:11:33] | tonsofpcs: | justinh: well, that depends on design (pure DSP tuners can exist) but yea, there is always some hash generated by any electronics. |
| [22:11:56] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: I have. |
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| [22:12:09] | justinh: | I've seen USB devices preventing a PC booting up |
| [22:12:13] | tonsofpcs: | if you want to see this happen, grab an old PC, stick a spare PCI nic in it, rip it out while running. |
| [22:12:18] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: sure, but it's still USB doing something it was never originally intended to, heavy data transfer |
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| [22:12:44] | justinh: | wagnerrp: just do what the systems we built at work do. Use USB for everything |
| [22:12:50] | devinheitmueller: | USB was designed for heavy data transfer, for some definition of "heavy". |
| [22:12:51] | justinh: | main storage.. USB to sata! |
| [22:12:58] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: I thought USB was built to be /universal/ for any /serial/ data transfer.... |
| [22:13:30] | wagnerrp: | sure, for any serial data transfer of a few Mbps |
| [22:13:35] | justinh: | yeah but if the bus crashes, just pull the device & re-plug it. not much hassle there |
| [22:13:44] | justinh: | surely, the designers thought |
| [22:14:05] | tonsofpcs: | USB 1.0 was 1.5 Mbps or 12 Mbps, 2.0 was 480... |
| [22:15:28] | wagnerrp: | right, but there's no dedicated IC managing the transfer. it's all put on the host |
| [22:16:12] | devinheitmueller: | How did we get on this trolling topic again? |
| [22:16:24] | tonsofpcs: | you mean a USBHC? |
| [22:16:44] | tonsofpcs: | devinheitmueller: wagnerrp's lack of trust for USB. |
| [22:16:48] | wagnerrp: | preferring colossus over an HDPVR2 |
| [22:17:01] | tonsofpcs: | that said, I'm ok with Gig-E (or better) for everything. |
| [22:17:03] | justinh: | everybody's lack of trust for USB.. everybody in the know, anyway |
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| [22:17:44] | tonsofpcs: | justinh: USB has plenty of useful properties for a variety of systems. Is it the 'universal' solution? no, not really. |
| [22:18:40] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: I figured the following is going to come to somebody's attention here eventually: http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?page_id=2271 |
| [22:20:09] | wagnerrp: | so the driver is already written, just not publicly available? |
| [22:20:23] | devinheitmueller: | Yup. |
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| [22:42:08] | justinh: | meh. nvidia-settings couldn't cure the flashplugin funk. HATE Adobe |
| [22:42:38] | justinh: | of course if I was one of the sheeple I could just use iplayer on my iDevice & be all full of glowing love for propriatary crap |
| [22:43:00] | justinh: | which generally just happens (TM) when stuff just works (TM) |
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| [23:25:19] | EvilGuru: | justinh: Flash on my box works for youtube and spread betting, but crashes for most everything else |
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