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Tuesday, December 4th, 2012, 00:06 UTC
[00:06:10] darkstarbyte: Anyone got the kernel module: cx23885 to work in recent kernels?
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[00:10:44] darkstarbyte: or the card: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Device 7801
[00:11:05] wagnerrp: do you have an actual name for the card?
[00:11:21] darkstarbyte: Haupauge wintv
[00:11:33] wagnerrp: yes... but there are dozens of those
[00:11:33] darkstarbyte: let me get the exact stuff on the card
[00:11:34] wagnerrp: which one
[00:11:46] darkstarbyte: <darkstarbyte> let me get the exact stuff on the card
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[00:12:34] darkstarbyte: HVR-1800
[00:13:08] darkstarbyte: rev C1E9
[00:13:47] wagnerrp: devinheitmuell-1: any problems with those cards you're aware of?
[00:14:18] darkstarbyte: He is the dev that is working on it.
[00:14:31] darkstarbyte: I was kind of wondering if he fixed the mailbox pointer thing
[00:17:13] Jonathan__: Anyone able to assist with my question above?
[00:18:07] darkstarbyte: hold on I will check
[00:18:32] darkstarbyte: I think that is for the kernel.
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[00:19:01] Cardoe: Isn't the HVR-1800 MCE the Blackbird based card?
[00:19:14] darkstarbyte: Cardoe, I believe so.
[00:19:26] darkstarbyte: Not sure how to check
[00:19:26] Cardoe: So isn't that not controlled by cx23885?
[00:19:42] Cardoe: it had some special variant or something
[00:19:51] darkstarbyte: I think I posted the module earlier, I will repost that.
[00:19:57] darkstarbyte: <darkstarbyte> Anyone got the kernel module: cx23885 to work in recent kernels?
[00:19:59] Jonathan__: darkstarbyte was that to me?
[00:20:33] darkstarbyte: Jonathan__, if it is a kernel patch, then you may need to build one from scratch to get it.
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[00:21:53] Jonathan__: I guess I am stuffed then as that is well above me
[00:24:06] Cardoe: Jonathan__: Submit a bug to your distro to get them to include it
[00:24:40] Cardoe: or try the documented workaround with femon
[00:25:34] Jonathan__: where is that? do you have a link or have I missed it somewhere?
[00:27:52] devinheitmuell-1: sorry, was afk
[00:28:11] devinheitmuell-1: There's still an issue with the 885 based cards across the board where the encoder doesn't always startup.
[00:29:26] devinheitmuell-1: Oh, and on one of the older HVR-1800 variants there is no analog support on *just* the tuner input.
[00:29:40] devinheitmuell-1: (the composite and s-video analog work fine though)
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[00:30:41] darkstarbyte: No over the air capture right now?
[00:30:54] wagnerrp: the encoder is only for analog
[00:30:57] devinheitmuell-1: Well right now, you cannot rely on it for *any* analog.
[00:30:58] wagnerrp: digital should be unaffected
[00:31:05] devinheitmuell-1: Correct, digital should be fine.
[00:31:13] wagnerrp: over-the-air being all digital
[00:31:17] darkstarbyte: So I should upgrade my kernel and try digital again?
[00:31:29] darkstarbyte: Last time I got the mailbox pointer error
[00:31:39] devinheitmuell-1: I don't believe there has *ever* been an issue with digital.
[00:31:45] Cardoe: wagnerrp: Why does logging have to be so complicated? :/
[00:31:47] devinheitmuell-1: Mailbox pointer error? Can you pastebin the output?
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[00:32:00] darkstarbyte: let me create the error again
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[00:32:14] wagnerrp: it is? one file per application instance doesn't seem that complicated
[00:32:19] darkstarbyte: I am using kernel version 3.6.6 just like last time
[00:32:39] darkstarbyte: mythtv trying to use it, make the error.
[00:32:40] Cardoe: all I know is the layout changed again
[00:33:23] Jonathan__: was there somewhere I can look for femon's workaround?
[00:35:34] devinheitmuell-1: I really should find some time to get back those boards. My Linux box with PCIe is in pieces right now.
[00:35:39] darkstarbyte: Maybe just analog
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[00:38:53] darkstarbyte: Wait the firmware is missing for the digital side, I must have just seen the problems with analog.
[00:39:04] darkstarbyte: Any idea where to get it?
[00:39:18] devinheitmuell-1: There is no firmware required for the digital side.
[00:39:22] devinheitmuell-1: Oh wait, nevermind.
[00:39:24] devinheitmuell-1: One sec
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[00:39:28] devinheitmuell-1: steventoth.net/linux/
[00:39:39] devinheitmuell-1: http://steventoth.net/linux/hvr1800/
[00:41:40] darkstarbyte: thanks, I will give this another go.
[00:41:44] devinheitmuell-1: ok
[00:45:19] darkstarbyte: guess what I get
[00:45:20] darkstarbyte: [ 4705.062570] Firmware and/or mailbox pointer not initialized or corrupted, signature = 0xffd5bebc, cmd = PING_FW
[00:45:33] devinheitmuell-1: That always happens the first time. It's not actually a problem.
[00:45:48] darkstarbyte: should I modprobe it again?
[00:46:01] devinheitmuell-1: The logging is in the wrong place so that it always says that the first time – basically it's being done by the code that checks whether to load the firmware.
[00:46:16] devinheitmuell-1: No need to modprobe again – the firmware should be loaded now.
[00:46:25] darkstarbyte: oops, I already did
[00:46:34] devinheitmuell-1: I really should fix that – I thought it was a sign of a problem too until I dug into the source code.
[00:46:50] darkstarbyte: trying mythtv again though.
[00:46:55] devinheitmuell-1: ls
[00:47:01] devinheitmuell-1: wrong window, nm.
[00:48:42] Jonathan__: Cardoe I can't seem to find Femon's workaround do you know where it is?
[00:56:31] darkstarbyte: devinheitmuell-1, I don't mind if you don't fix analog, because now I have tv again
[00:58:41] devinheitmuell-1: heh
[00:58:45] devinheitmuell-1: Glad it's working.
[00:58:53] devinheitmuell-1: Firmware helps.  :-)
[01:00:00] Jonathan__: sorry to be a pain but does anyone know the fermon workaround? I can't find anything on it through google
[01:05:51] devinheitmuell-1: Oh wow, I'm just now realizing which issue Jonathan__ is referring to. Crud.
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[01:10:13] Jonathan__: So you know the issue?
[01:10:32] devinheitmuell-1: Yeah, look at the actual patch. I'm the one who determined the fix.  ;-)
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[01:11:06] devinheitmuell-1: the issue is it's a pretty invasive change and needs to be closely analyzed to determine if it causes any side-effects.
[01:11:10] devinheitmuell-1: That's why it wasn't merged yet.
[01:11:15] Demon_Fox: How big should the hd ring buffer be?
[01:11:27] Jonathan__: And it has to go into the kernel? I'm a noob so a bit lost here at the moment. I had someone here who thought they knew about Linux but they aren't much help
[01:11:36] Jonathan__: and have now gone
[01:11:36] devinheitmuell-1: Yeah, it's a kernel patch.
[01:11:53] Jonathan__: So requires a full kernel build?
[01:11:57] devinheitmuell-1: Or you can build the "media_build" tree and apply it to your existing kernel.
[01:11:59] devinheitmuell-1: see:
[01:12:12] devinheitmuell-1: http://git.linuxtv.org/media_build.git
[01:12:26] Demon_Fox: If your running ubuntu Jonathan__ compiling the kernel is going to get a bit more complicated.
[01:12:34] devinheitmuell-1: (you'll still need to apply that patch, but that would allow you to not have to replace your entire kernel)
[01:12:45] Jonathan__: Arch Linux and yesterday I got errors with media_build
[01:13:02] devinheitmuell-1: Well, they do break it every other day, so I'm not surprised.
[01:13:09] Jonathan__: I think I am out of my depth :(
[01:13:23] Demon_Fox: I think I found a bug in the kernel under usb
[01:13:24] devinheitmuell-1: (in fairness, it only *feels* like every other day. It's probably much more often).  ;-)
[01:13:37] Demon_Fox: setidle says failed, but works
[01:13:45] Demon_Fox: from hdparm
[01:13:53] Jonathan__: ?
[01:14:07] Demon_Fox: clean up need to catch up with the kernel releases.
[01:15:56] Jonathan__: I take it my tuners are unlikely to work without this?
[01:16:15] devinheitmuell-1: Jonathan__: You tell me. I don't know the circumstances of your particular symptoms.
[01:17:47] Jonathan__: Well basically in the backend I get Could not get card info for card /dev/dba/adapter0 (or 1 or 2 or 3) but if I keep scrolling then each one will turn up at somepoint but might not the next time I scroll to it
[01:18:07] devinheitmuell-1: Yeah, sounds like the bug in question could explain that.
[01:18:30] devinheitmuell-1: If you're more comfortable hacking MythTV instead of the kernel, you could jam an msleep(500) after the DVB close() call to achieve the same effect.
[01:18:56] Jonathan__: I would if I new how to do that :)
[01:19:12] devinheitmuell-1: That's something that somebody here probably *could* help you with.
[01:19:19] devinheitmuell-1: (I'm no mythtv developer)
[01:20:11] Jonathan__: Anybody able to help me with the above? (Thanks devinheitmuell-1)
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[01:21:40] Demon_Fox: I am guessing atsc is analog.
[01:21:58] Demon_Fox: I don't know why it is thinking to use analog to scan with.
[01:22:09] wagnerrp: ntsc is analog, atsc is digital
[01:22:54] Demon_Fox: sweat
[01:23:07] Demon_Fox: I thought it was the other way around for a second
[01:25:18] Demon_Fox: I got something with a tv using this antenna before.
[01:26:18] Demon_Fox: failed to find a single channel, hmm.
[01:26:40] devinheitmuell-1: Demon_Fox: Which tuner is it?
[01:27:46] Demon_Fox: hvr 1800
[01:27:59] devinheitmuell-1: Do you have the firmware?
[01:28:09] Demon_Fox: yes
[01:28:22] Demon_Fox: it was last time I did not, and this time it can even detect it.
[01:28:24] Demon_Fox: I am scanning again, and hoping it was my antenna.
[01:28:32] Demon_Fox: I readjusted it.
[01:29:10] devinheitmuell-1: ls
[01:29:16] Demon_Fox: lspci?
[01:29:27] Demon_Fox: dmesg told me last time when it was not loaded.
[01:30:40] Demon_Fox: time to post some dmesg
[01:31:11] Demon_Fox: http://dpaste.com/840994/
[01:31:57] Demon_Fox: You might see it being loaded twice
[01:32:13] devinheitmuell-1: Looks fine.
[01:32:16] Demon_Fox: Should I not be using a front end?
[01:32:19] devinheitmuell-1: (yeah, I see the unload in between)
[01:32:48] devinheitmuell-1: It might make sense to try using "scan".
[01:32:53] Demon_Fox: What is the /dev/path/to/whatever ?
[01:33:00] devinheitmuell-1: Also, you're doing over the air, right? (not digital cable)
[01:33:10] Demon_Fox: air
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[01:33:11] devinheitmuell-1: Could be a sensitivity issue too.
[01:33:25] devinheitmuell-1: Have you tried it under Windows? Validated it can get channels even in optimal conditions?
[01:33:38] Demon_Fox: I own a copy.
[01:33:41] Demon_Fox: I mean
[01:33:54] Demon_Fox: I don't own a copy just a license key, and I install Linux over it.
[01:34:35] devinheitmuell-1: Probably worth a try. If you don't get anything under Windows, then you know your problem has nothing to do with Linux.
[01:34:54] Demon_Fox: It worked fine before
[01:34:59] devinheitmuell-1: Also, you screwed the cable into the right F-connector, right?
[01:35:09] Demon_Fox: I believe so
[01:35:14] Demon_Fox: Let me double check
[01:35:21] devinheitmuell-1: Depending on the board, should be the third one down.
[01:36:27] Demon_Fox: Tried a different one that was labeled tv, so I will give it a try.
[01:37:09] Demon_Fox: Two with similar hard to read names, my bad.
[01:37:15] devinheitmuell-1: np
[01:37:18] devinheitmuell-1: Common mistake.
[01:37:42] Demon_Fox: It is hard to see on those, perhaps if the name was coloured in with black it might be easier to see.
[01:38:04] Demon_Fox: as in filling the engraving with black ink.
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[01:39:30] Demon_Fox: The icon importer works, before it seemed not to.
[01:40:08] Jonathan__: Anyone good at hacking mythtv? So I can try the what <devinheitmuell-1> suggested before?
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[01:45:25] Demon_Fox: sigh
[01:47:46] devinheitmuell-1: Demon_Fox: when did you last validate the scan found channels with a regular TV?
[01:47:54] devinheitmuell-1: Last week? Last year?
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[01:54:58] Demon_Fox: devinheitmuell-1, Last time I messed up and tried analog by mistake
[01:55:07] devinheitmuell-1: ok.
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[01:57:58] Demon_Fox: I don't know why it is trying to download stuff from one of those tv databases
[01:58:33] devinheitmuell-1: Look at the bright side: you could be stuck porting kernel driver code from 2.6.20 to 3.6.6.  :-)
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[02:00:40] Demon_Fox: Did you do that?
[02:00:49] devinheitmuell-1: That's how I get to spend *my* evening.  :-)
[02:01:12] Demon_Fox: I really think they should pay for this.
[02:01:15] devinheitmuell-1: MythTV is way more fun than USB host controller drivers for obscure embedded platforms.
[02:01:49] devinheitmuell-1: cd drivers/usb/dwc_otg_pctv
[02:01:54] devinheitmuell-1: doh, wrong window, again.
[02:01:55] devinheitmuell-1: :-/
[02:02:17] Demon_Fox: Where are you chatting to get this mixed up?
[02:03:01] devinheitmuell-1: I'm going back and forth between IRC and a console. But since the console is inside Virtualbox, the cursor blinks but I'm not actually typing there.
[02:03:41] devinheitmuell-1: My bad though. Sorry about that.
[02:03:50] Demon_Fox: Is there a mythtv setting for something like this:
[02:04:17] Demon_Fox: is there are black edges I would like to use a small tool to mark how many pixels in, to crop
[02:04:33] Demon_Fox: Some show are wide screen with black bars on the side
[02:04:40] Demon_Fox: shows*
[02:04:58] Demon_Fox: Then
[02:05:13] Demon_Fox: otherwise if I don't specify cropping for a certain video go completely lossless
[02:07:09] Demon_Fox: I don't want a data listing, how would I turn grabbing that off?
[02:07:21] Demon_Fox: I just want full EIT
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[02:09:26] Demon_Fox: devinheitmuell-1, The noise ratio thing is failing according to the backend
[02:09:40] devinheitmuell-1: noise ratio thing?
[02:09:47] devinheitmuell-1: Do you mean SNR?
[02:10:04] Demon_Fox: It says it fails to even get signal strength
[02:10:32] devinheitmuell-1: That's bad. On that device it should return signal strength (even though because of a bug it's actually returning SNR)
[02:10:42] devinheitmuell-1: If the call is failing entirely, that's bad news.
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[02:12:23] Demon_Fox: scanning for channels went smooth
[02:12:30] Demon_Fox: It was able to see strength
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[02:14:01] devinheitmuell-1: I'm sorry, I thought you just said it fails to even get signal strength.
[02:14:47] Demon_Fox: That was when I started it up in the terminal, mythtvbackend
[02:14:53] Demon_Fox: I mean
[02:14:57] Demon_Fox: mythbackend
[02:15:02] Demon_Fox: it is very strange.
[02:15:10] Demon_Fox: Must have been a one time error
[02:15:19] Demon_Fox: sorry
[02:15:57] Demon_Fox: I told it not to grab anything from datadirect and now I am mad
[02:17:17] devinheitmuell-1: np
[02:17:20] Demon_Fox: works right now.
[02:17:33] Demon_Fox: Sorry for the log pollution and etc
[02:17:48] devinheitmuell-1: You're getting channels?
[02:18:06] Demon_Fox: Hopefully, I am checking now
[02:18:47] wagnerrp: you know, most stations aren't going to provide more than 12 hours of EIT (FCC minimum)
[02:19:03] wagnerrp: and the data they do provide is likely going to be very terse
[02:19:38] Demon_Fox: Most channels I don't like are the ones, that do not provide the data, so I am good.
[02:19:49] Demon_Fox: I would like to know how to make it scan for EIT again.
[02:20:24] wagnerrp: in the channel editor, just enable EIT
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[02:20:34] wagnerrp: you have to enable it both for the source, and for the individual channel
[02:22:31] Demon_Fox: I got that, I just want it to rescan.
[02:22:38] Demon_Fox: Before I was doing it wrong.
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[02:29:46] devinheitmuell-1: Demon_Fox: are you getting signal lock on channels now?
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[02:33:51] Demon_Fox: yeah
[02:33:54] Demon_Fox: I am
[02:34:05] Demon_Fox: Must have been a one time error
[02:34:27] devinheitmuell-1: Another satisfied customer!  :-)
[02:34:49] Demon_Fox: You really should get paid for your kernel work
[02:34:56] devinheitmuell-1: I do.
[02:35:11] Demon_Fox: I thought you didn't when I asked you a while ago.
[02:35:36] devinheitmuell-1: I used to do it on the side. Now I'm full time doing Linux kernel work.
[02:35:41] devinheitmuell-1: (http://www.kernellabs.com)
[02:35:55] Demon_Fox: When did you get hired?
[02:36:12] devinheitmuell-1: I'm a co-founder.
[02:36:26] devinheitmuell-1: …. but I finally quit my old job and went full-time a few weeks ago.
[02:36:59] Demon_Fox: You must be making more then.
[02:37:06] Demon_Fox: Don't answer that
[02:37:10] Demon_Fox: it was intruding.
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[02:47:29] Jonathan__: Anyone come on recently who can help me hack mythtv?
[02:48:10] wagnerrp: no, but you can ask your question, and if someone has an answer to it, they will do so
[02:48:33] Demon_Fox: He wants kernel compiling help.
[02:48:48] wagnerrp: so in other words, nothing to do with mythtv
[02:48:56] wagnerrp: and not even "hacking"
[02:50:11] Demon_Fox: It needs an experimental patch also
[02:50:20] devinheitmuell-1: wagnerrp: Jonathan__ is looking for where to jam the line into the mythtv codebase that causes it to msleep(500) between closing and opening the DVB device.
[02:50:55] wagnerrp: sounds like something that would be better fixed in the driver
[02:50:57] devinheitmuell-1: People have stuck that line in there in the past – it's to avoid race conditions with closing/reopening the DVB device too quickly.
[02:51:06] devinheitmuell-1: wagnerrp: no sh*t sherlock.  :-)
[02:51:26] devinheitmuell-1: There' s a kernel fix, but it hasn't been merged yet because the code in that area is a bit brittle.
[02:51:44] Demon_Fox: That reminds me, I want to record Elementary. (make reference to no sh*t sherlock comment)
[02:51:51] ** devinheitmuell-1 waits to get kickbanned.... **
[02:51:55] [R]: why not just leave the dvb op[[en?
[02:51:57] [R]: problem solved
[02:52:15] Demon_Fox: You better not get kicked, because you are important around here devinheitmuell-1
[02:52:18] devinheitmuell-1: [R]: you typically don't want to do that on a hybrid tuner, since it will interfere with analog.
[02:52:57] devinheitmuell-1: In cases where the tuner is shared, having both the V4L and DVB side of the device opened at the same time causes in in determinant behavior.
[02:53:27] devinheitmuell-1: Wow, autocorrect blows. Try indeterminant.
[02:54:10] Jonathan__: I only use the digital side not analogue so how would I do that?
[02:54:35] devinheitmuell-1: There should be a checkbox in the tuner configuration called something like "close DVB device when not in use". Uncheck that.
[02:54:53] devinheitmuell-1: (or check it, I don't remember which)
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[02:58:25] Jonathan__: Is that in the backend configuation?
[02:59:05] wagnerrp: by default, it leaves the device open
[02:59:25] Jonathan__: I have the issue as soon as I log into the backend setup
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[02:59:38] devinheitmuell-1: wagnerrp: even the channel scanner leaves it open?
[03:00:02] wagnerrp: not sure about how mythtv-setup operates
[03:00:09] wagnerrp: as far as i know, that setting is only for mythbackend
[03:01:52] Jonathan__: When setting up the card comes up with the error of not being able to identify it but when scrolling through sometimes it comes up identified
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[03:25:08] Jonathan__: The open tuner on demand box is unticked on all adapters
[03:25:14] Jonathan__: just checked
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[07:46:49] wagnerrp: sphery: don't you have delete privileges?
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[09:18:29] Jonathan__: Okay I am hoping someone here might be able to help me hack mythtv to modify a setting as was suggested on here earlier.
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[09:52:19] darkstarbyte: If my external drive is in sleep mode, or what ever it is called
[09:52:40] darkstarbyte: Will mythtv start it up, because I missed a recording.
[09:53:01] darkstarbyte: I think I should allow it to spin down and try it again.
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[09:59:50] darkstarbyte: time to try the record
[10:01:22] darkstarbyte: I have it set to record something now, and it is not.
[10:01:28] darkstarbyte: The drive is not spinning up.
[10:03:31] darkstarbyte: accessing it with thunar will start it up
[10:04:25] darkstarbyte: I am getting lots of error
[10:04:29] darkstarbyte: errors*
[10:04:50] darkstarbyte: ring buffer not open and etc
[10:05:42] darkstarbyte: Invalid argument getting signal noise
[10:05:50] darkstarbyte: I wonder if I need a /mnt/store?
[10:06:28] darkstarbyte: I think if I need it, that I will make it ram disk.
[10:10:27] darkstarbyte: Should I use a cron job to wake up the drive every hour?
[10:10:48] xavierh: I can not remember how to access the experimental http backend setup, any idea ?
[10:11:28] darkstarbyte: If you wrote it, how come you don't remember?
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[10:17:57] darkstarbyte: wow
[10:18:00] xavierh: got it
[10:18:13] darkstarbyte: going to watch recording starts up the disk, but not when I want it to record something
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[10:19:05] darkstarbyte: Any ideas, anyone?
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[10:24:50] xavierh: darkstarbyte: hdparm ?
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[10:26:23] darkstarbyte: what about it?
[10:26:54] xavierh: if you want to disable the stand by
[10:27:11] darkstarbyte: I want it to be able to spin down like before
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[10:52:14] xavierh: http://<backendip:6544/Config required username and password ... ?
[10:52:21] xavierh: http://<backendip>:6544/Config required username and password ... ?
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[11:18:04] stuartm: admin/admin or something like that
[11:18:33] stuartm: it's incomplete though, hence why it was disabled for the 0.26 release
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[11:37:43] xavierh: stuartm: nop, I am trying to change System Event setting remotely, but I don't know how to do it
[11:53:02] stuartm: xavierh: admin/mythtv
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[12:08:07] xavierh: stuartm: thx, tried mythtv/admin but not admin/mythtv :)
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[15:04:55] IReboot: skd5aner: FYI: I just released an update to Lossless Cut (v0.2.1) which my help with that weird "Missing FPS" metadata recording you mentioned yesterday. It will take several hours before the PPA release is available (a Launchpad thing), so you will need to wait.
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[15:08:55] sphery: wagnerrp: yeah, I do, but I wanted to let you verify it's not a bad idea before I just unilaterally deleted them
[15:09:18] sphery: guess I could have just asked... maybe I'm a bit afraid of deleting a page the first time
[15:10:35] wagnerrp: be a man^H^H^Hadmin, go for it
[15:10:36] wagnerrp: :)
[15:10:40] sphery: hehe
[15:10:41] sphery: will do
[15:15:10] wagnerrp: besides, nothing is ever actually deleted
[15:15:16] wagnerrp: we can always undelete if need be
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[15:27:24] sphery: ah, that's good to know... makes it a bit less scary
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[16:10:46] mkrufky: ...i said it a few days ago... we're hiring, if anybody has the right kind of experience and wants to put it to use, PM me asap
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[16:15:15] ** tgm4883 wonders what mkrufky's line of work is **
[16:15:27] wagnerrp: tuner drivers and software
[16:15:32] tgm4883: ah
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[16:19:49] stuartm: tgm4883: http://www.kernellabs.com
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[16:20:13] devinheitmueller: stuartm: he's not speaking on behalf of Kernel Labs in this context.
[16:20:49] stuartm: he didn't specify so it seemed a reasonable assumption
[16:21:02] devinheitmueller: stuartm: understandable, which is why I clarified.  :-)
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[16:26:57] mkrufky: heh sorry i was away
[16:27:03] mkrufky: (which is why i asked for PMs) ;-)
[16:27:12] mkrufky: we're looking for video guys
[16:27:15] mkrufky: embedded linux stuff
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[16:40:28] wagnerrp: for the mediamvp?
[16:42:44] mkrufky: not FOR anything other than cool new stuff that only employees would be in the know about ;-)
[16:43:04] wagnerrp: so.... mediamvp replacement
[16:43:06] mkrufky: heh
[16:43:10] mkrufky: i didnt say that at all
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[17:02:22] ** wizbit wonders if its now safe to remove /etc/rc.d/rc.mythbackend restart from cron **
[17:03:01] ** wagnerrp wonders if it was ever safe to have such a thing in the first place **
[17:03:38] sid3windr: why would one cron that :o
[17:03:57] wizbit: because mythtv keeps on getting stuck upcoming recordings in mythweb
[17:04:11] wizbit: or should i say
[17:04:15] wizbit: currently recording blah
[17:04:21] wizbit: when its not actually recording anything
[17:04:27] wizbit: a restart solves the problem
[17:04:58] sphery: s/solves the problem/solves the symptom/
[17:05:17] wizbit: .26 is a new database for me, its all fresh, but the problem remains
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[17:05:58] sphery: yes, but the problem is that somehow your backend is getting confused
[17:06:05] wizbit: i am using a nova-t 500 dual tuners, each tuner has virtual tuners or whatever you call them
[17:06:09] sphery: and/or mythweb is misinterpreting the data
[17:06:13] wizbit: 4 virtual tuners
[17:06:21] sphery: multiple backends?
[17:06:24] wizbit: nope
[17:06:27] wizbit: single backend
[17:06:34] wizbit: the problem could be mythweb only
[17:06:36] sphery: likely just a mythweb misinterpretation, then
[17:06:40] wizbit: ohhhhhhh
[17:06:46] sphery: I plan to eventually look into it, but haven't gotten a chance
[17:06:49] wizbit: maybe php version problem
[17:06:54] sphery: could be related
[17:07:07] wizbit: why am i the only one getting this problem?
[17:07:37] wizbit: im running php 5.4.7
[17:08:31] wizbit: maybe restarting php might solve it
[17:08:35] wizbit: i could do a test
[17:08:43] wizbit: or restarting httpd
[17:08:44] wagnerrp: you can't "restart php"
[17:09:02] wagnerrp: and that data is not persistent, so restarting apache fixes nothing
[17:09:08] wizbit: ok
[17:09:45] wizbit: so mytnweb need to be more php 5.4 compatible
[17:10:13] wagnerrp: no, the backend is reporting that the program is still recording
[17:10:18] wagnerrp: it has nothing to do with apache or php
[17:10:21] wizbit: oh
[17:10:33] wizbit: i wonder why the backend is doing that
[17:10:45] wizbit: maybe ive setup virtual tuners incorrectly
[17:11:04] wizbit: i have 2 real tuners and each tuner has 4 virtual tuners
[17:11:27] wizbit: virtual is the incorrect word to use
[17:13:47] sphery: I still think mythweb is misinterpreting the data from the backend
[17:14:16] sphery: (this is the problem you have when you reimplement logic in 2 places and one of them doesn't get sufficient attention in spite of massive changes to the other)
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[19:44:13] disputin: anyone know how to turn off screen blanking? I've got a macmini connected directly to my tv, so I don't need a screen saver of any type. I turn the tv off when I'm not using it
[19:45:10] disputin: but about 3/4 of the time, I have to restart lightdm, on tty1 because tty7 is blanked out and won't wake back up.
[19:46:36] disputin: I don't have any screen saver's installed (that I know of)
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[20:15:09] jams: disputin, if you have no screensavers it's probably dpms kicking in. xset -dpms s off
[20:15:11] jams: will disable it
[20:17:49] disputin: ok, let me try that
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[21:02:29] justinh: woohoo! I just made my first custom canned search for mythweb
[21:03:57] justinh: wish I knew what I was doing enough to make a simple record button for the guide grid in mythweb though
[21:04:30] justinh: hmmm canned search needs some work
[21:06:07] justinh: ( program.category="documentary" and ( channel.name like "%BBC%" OR channel.name like "%channel%4" )'; more like
[21:08:58] justinh: oh and program.title NOT like "%cops"
[21:09:01] justinh: jeees
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[21:09:57] justinh: is there any way to make a canned search show only unique programmes?
[21:10:12] justinh: oh never mind
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[22:31:08] toorima: what is the best way to launch xbmc from within mythtv now, I used to launch it from the menu, in 0.24 and earlier, but UI has changed and can't find a way to do it anymore
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[22:41:38] stuartm: it hasn't changed
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[23:05:41] toorima: stuartm: hmm ok, I'll try again
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[23:41:18] justinh: I always like to think of launching other apps from mythtv is a bit like fight club. The first rule of that being..
[23:47:15] wizbit: you do not talk about fightclub
[23:47:34] wizbit: the 2nd rule?
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