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Monday, November 5th, 2012, 00:01 UTC
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[00:02:31] stuartm: right, just because it's listed in configure output doesn't mean it's required, in fact pretty much the opposite
[00:03:10] stuartm: it will check for most required deps and warn explicitly on those before you even get as far as building
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[00:05:48] PSU: just upgraded to 0.25–3 from 0.24...volume for speech is low, but seems normal for sound effects. is this possible? any fixes?
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[00:08:09] ertyu_: PSU, are you getting multi channel instead of stereo previously or some such?
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[00:09:25] stuartm: PSU: you mean sound effects outside mythtv?
[00:09:42] PSU: ertyu_: yeah, that may be it...seems like surround is no longer working
[00:10:24] PSU: not getting the center channel now, that's it!
[00:10:33] PSU: which is where speech normally comes from
[00:11:40] PSU: is that a common problem? it was working fine under 0.24
[00:12:16] ertyu_: did you go through the sound settings and check they are still logical and correct?
[00:12:26] PSU: let me check
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[00:14:28] PSU: hmm, dumb ? ... is that under mythtv-setup?
[00:16:05] ertyu_: its in the setup on the front end
[00:16:06] stuartm: no, mythfrontend > Setup >Audio
[00:16:15] PSU: thanks guys!
[00:21:06] PSU: hmm, set to ALSA:pulse 5.1. when i try to test the center channel, i don't have anything.
[00:21:36] stuartm: eww, pulse
[00:21:55] PSU: :P
[00:22:12] PSU: this is just an old Dell box. nothing fancy here, but it was working under 0.24
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[00:25:35] PSU: hmm, settings look fine
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[00:26:08] PSU: wonder if i need to check the upconvert stereo to 5.1 surround box?
[00:26:49] ertyu_: if the test doesn't work, then something isn't right with your audio path/setup
[00:27:32] PSU: ok, any suggestions where to look for errors?
[00:28:32] PSU: looking in the console, there are a few messages when i run the test
[00:28:48] PSU: ALSA: no playback control master found on mixer device default
[00:29:00] PSU: ALSA: unable to open mixer. volume control disabled
[00:31:50] ertyu_: did you upgrade the OS at the same time?
[00:32:16] PSU: nope
[00:32:44] PSU: guess i should look for upgrades to that driver?
[00:32:48] PSU: or soundcard
[00:33:19] ertyu_: not sure what the best approach is
[00:33:29] PSU: ok, but that probably wouldn't hurt, right? :)
[00:33:35] ertyu_: you can try the other interface options in the settings
[00:49:03] PSU: looks like i need to change the default card...it's using the stereo pulseaudio rather intel surround
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[02:17:10] wagnerrp: seems monoprice is down
[02:18:31] [R]: oh snap
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[02:19:44] wagnerrp: i was right in the middle of putting together an order about 45 minutes ago, and the site stopped responding
[02:19:47] wagnerrp: still not back up
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[03:23:30] fleixius: wagnerrp, you around?
[03:23:36] wagnerrp: uh huh
[03:24:01] fleixius: You have PXE root NFS frontends with suspend working right?
[03:24:09] wagnerrp: no
[03:24:34] wagnerrp: havent use NFS root in years
[03:25:00] fleixius: I I have the system suspending and waking correctly, but my frontend/X server don't resume.
[03:25:19] wagnerrp: what application are you using to trigger the suspend?
[03:25:27] fleixius: pm-suspend
[03:25:35] wagnerrp: i recall something like s2ram last time i tried
[03:25:47] wagnerrp: or maybe sususpend
[03:25:57] wagnerrp: anyway, it had a bunch of additional command line options
[03:26:06] wagnerrp: including ones that would recycle the graphics memory
[03:26:33] wagnerrp: different motherboards and graphics would require slightly different options to get it to work properly
[03:26:38] fleixius: Are you using thick clients?
[03:26:48] wagnerrp: isn't everyone?
[03:26:55] wagnerrp: mythtv cannot run on thin clients
[03:27:09] wagnerrp: not unless you're running 10GbE or something
[03:27:16] wagnerrp: standard gigabit doesn't have the throughput
[03:27:38] fleixius: true, diskless is what I meant.
[03:27:46] wagnerrp: yes, all my machines are diskless
[03:27:51] wagnerrp: all but the server, anyway
[03:28:08] fleixius: Gotcha, what're you doing rather root nfs? PXEing into ram?
[03:28:15] wagnerrp: iSCSI
[03:28:18] fleixius: ahh
[03:28:46] wagnerrp: i PXE into a custom kernel and initramfs that loads the iSCSI drivers, connects to and mounts the disk, and then pivots into it
[03:29:41] wagnerrp: gah... monoprice is still down
[03:30:20] fleixius: Why'd you go iscsi targets rather nbd/nfs roots
[03:30:27] fleixius: Out of curiosty
[03:30:33] fleixius: aksdjajdasjd this keyboard sucks
[03:31:09] wagnerrp: tired of dealing with the finickiness of not having a "disk", and how that affects the init process
[03:31:27] fleixius: For me, its mostly STALE fs bull with nfs
[03:31:37] wagnerrp: plus there was an appreciable boost in performance with iscsi over nfs
[03:32:29] fleixius: that would depend on the number of clients polling the storage, but right now I havent had any problems with nfsv4
[03:32:37] wagnerrp: plus the plan was hatched with the expectation iscsi support would eventually be built into ZFS
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[03:33:20] wagnerrp: there's still not yet any in-kernel support in freebsd
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[03:33:32] wagnerrp: so while the commands are available in the filesystem utilities
[03:33:40] wagnerrp: they're not actually hooked up to anything
[03:33:46] fleixius: I dont even use the nfs functions built into my zfs pool...at least I wont until it's upgraded to v4
[03:35:10] fleixius: I always had issues with iscsi bootable targets, how much of a pita was that getting going lol
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[03:38:47] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Wagnerrp#iSCS . . . _progress.29
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[03:40:05] wagnerrp: i actually have one slave backend booting using this method, using two local recording disks
[03:40:28] wagnerrp: the only real difficult part was parsing the new disks out of the kernel logs
[03:40:58] wagnerrp: since the open-iscsi tools don't tell you directly where it attached the disks to
[03:48:02] fleixius: Yah, reversing formatting from others output always sucks – great idea though on iscsi. I'm working on getting my suspend resuming correctly without having to restartX
[03:53:05] wagnerrp: anyway, the advantage of this, i can use one root image that gets updated periodically, and snapshot/clone it for dedicated images for each system
[03:53:34] wagnerrp: none of the funky shared NFS root and union overlay of most netboot schemes
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[04:03:32] fleixius: Yeah right now I do single root image with custom mounted home directories per client. The backend is a VM so I have the choice of esxi snapshots of ZFS.
[04:06:03] wagnerrp: eeeeww
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[04:08:23] fleixius: Oh it's sexy, works flawlessly, awesome performance.
[04:09:42] fleixius: Managing is easy, and upgrading is even easier.
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[04:13:35] wagnerrp: not sure how it can be easier or better performing than freebsd jails
[04:13:43] wagnerrp: unless you need to run multiple OSs
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[04:15:23] fleixius: Multiple OS's was a factor, but I haven't hit my threshold for r/w slowdowns. Even using my zpool for esx storage.
[04:15:45] wagnerrp: im not talking about, just the overhead from a virtualized system instance
[04:15:56] fleixius: Oh there's hardly any overhead.
[04:16:18] fleixius: At least any noticeable. The storage hardware is given specifically to the VM
[04:16:33] wagnerrp: it's unnecessary overhead
[04:16:58] fleixius: It allows me to contain one hardware platform for all of my servers, while keeping performance maxed
[04:17:12] fleixius: I went from an entire rack down to 4U's ;-)
[04:17:35] fleixius: 4U and some jbods
[04:17:40] wagnerrp: so? you can do that by just running everything on a single system image (assuming everything can run on one OS)
[04:18:14] fleixius: My network is entirely too complex for a single box with multiple functions.
[04:18:24] wagnerrp: but that's exactly what you have
[04:18:35] wagnerrp: just using multiple images
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[04:19:19] fleixius: I have a single box, yes with multiple OS virtual machines. Yet, my mythsetup only requires one of those VM's
[04:19:31] fleixius: as my storage image is the same image that hosts the backend
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[04:19:53] wagnerrp: but i don't understand how that is more flexible than jails
[04:20:02] wagnerrp: on a single instance of freebsd
[04:20:40] wagnerrp: again, assuming all your applications can run on freebsd
[04:20:50] fleixius: Because I can't host VM's with just freebsd
[04:21:09] wagnerrp: so?
[04:21:40] wagnerrp: im missing some fundamental explination
[04:21:58] wagnerrp: you're saying you need to run a hypervisor because you need to run VMs
[04:22:12] wagnerrp: but i don't see why you need to run VMs
[04:22:31] fleixius: Precisely, and you're saying I dont need VMs because I can place all of the functions on a single image.
[04:22:44] wagnerrp: correct
[04:23:12] fleixius: However, I can't do that and maintain the usability and dedication of hardware with a single instance of bsd.
[04:23:44] wagnerrp: that's only an issue if you need to run something other than bsd
[04:23:45] fleixius: I have company virtual machines and several networks virtualized, that I can't give up.
[04:24:59] wagnerrp: you can use the VIMAGE driver to give jails their own dedicated network stack, bridged to your physical uplink
[04:25:44] wagnerrp: lets you do any funky networking you please, possibly short of pf. i think there may be some complications still with that
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[04:27:14] fleixius: But is that wrapped in a usable GUI providing complete manageable flexibility? I enjoy the point-and-click aspect as it should be. But, rarely do I have to modify anything. I'd have to see the numbers / benefits, I hardly doubt it's a noticeable performance increase.
[04:27:41] fleixius: Noticeable over an esxi infrastructure.
[04:28:08] fleixius: Plus my love for BSD hasnt always been faithfull
[04:28:11] fleixius: faithful *
[04:28:11] wagnerrp: that depends on whether i can get a couple people contracting me for the same price as a commercial esxi license
[04:28:14] wagnerrp: :)
[04:28:24] fleixius: ha!
[04:31:47] fleixius: The amount of time they have developing vpshere, it'd be a long road ahead of you to get something close to what they have. But you'd be getting paid ;)
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[04:32:42] wagnerrp: well the problem with my scheme, it doesn't have the guaranteed isolation of a full VM, which is what commercial users are actually looking for
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[08:11:14] waxhead: hi everyone..
[08:11:17] waxhead: back again...
[08:11:27] waxhead: turns out the problem I was having was locale related...
[08:11:38] waxhead: now, the problem I'm having is recordings aren't expiring....
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[08:16:17] waxhead: oh... I think I see my error now...
[08:16:24] waxhead: I've accidently renamed the backend
[08:23:29] waxhead: actually no... I changed the frontend name... not the name of the backend or hostname
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[09:49:24] CiaranG: A problem I've had several times recently – 1. record film, 2. edit out adverts, 3. transcode/export to mythvideo, 4. watch, and near the end (say 10 minutes) the sound suddenly goes *way* out of sync with the video. Anyone else seen this?
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[12:23:51] Sharky112065: anyone know if the HDHR3-US will record 4 channels using multiplexing like the older version 1 white boxes? I noticed it has only one coaxle connection on the back but they say it has two tuners. My white box version 1 has two coaxle connectons.
[12:24:19] Sharky112065: I need to repalce one of my white box version one hdhhomerun
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[13:58:17] wagnerrp: Sharky112065: the HDHR3 will record two multiplexes
[13:58:43] wagnerrp: mythtv limits you to up to five channels per multiplex
[14:08:04] PSU: wagnerrp: You helped me last week in adding new channels to my listings. I upgraded to 0.25–3 from 0.24 and the new channels appeared after using the "fetch for channels" option. Now for some reason my listings data includes the new channels, but there is only guide data for one day (today) on these channels. I tried the mythfilldatabase with the "--dd-grab-all" option, but there is still "NO DATA" for anything past today on these new
[14:09:49] wagnerrp: could you pastebin the log from mythfilldatabase?
[14:11:10] PSU: sure, where does that log file reside? or would i need to re-run with an option to log?
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[14:13:50] wagnerrp: you ran it from the command line, the logs would be straight to the terminal you ran it from
[14:14:32] PSU: ok, let me re-run the dd-grab-all
[14:23:11] PSU: at the end of running "mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all," I got this error "Application asked to unregister timer 0x2c000001 which is not registered in this thread. Fix application."
[14:23:30] wagnerrp: not an issue
[14:23:42] PSU: ok, uploading log now...sec
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[14:25:22] PSU: http://pastebin.com/DLqtCaRv
[14:30:39] stuartm: actually, it needs fixing, but it's not going to cause any visible problems, it's a warning of a technicality and nothing more
[14:31:43] PSU: ok, so that wouldn't be a result of my missing DATA, or vice versa?
[14:41:39] stuartm: no, unconnected
[14:41:55] stuartm: run with mythfilldatabase -v xmltv
[14:42:30] PSU: ok
[14:48:12] PSU: stuartm: http://pastebin.com/667M2YVh
[14:52:34] stuartm: PSU: sorry, was that with --dd-grab-all too?
[14:53:53] PSU: stuartm: sorry i just ran "mythfilldatabase -v xmltv" ... what do you want me to run? happy to re-run :)
[14:54:24] stuartm: mythfilldatabase -v xmltv --dd-grab-all
[14:54:34] PSU: ok, try 2 or 3... :)
[14:54:40] stuartm: since we want to debug why it's not grabbing _all_ data
[14:55:05] PSU: gotcha
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[15:03:19] PSU: stuartm: http://pastebin.com/Zq13YDXb
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[15:19:42] stuartm: ok, that's clearly strange – it's downloading 5 MB of compressed data but believes that it's only receiving two days worth
[15:20:02] wagnerrp: useless phone co CSRs...
[15:20:38] wagnerrp: i just want to know whether the IPTV boxes use ethernet or coax...
[15:21:04] PSU: stuartm: wow, very strange :)
[15:21:05] stuartm: PSU: I don't know much about datadirect/schedulesdirect myself, I maintain the xmltv side, I'm going to see if I can get one of the SD people or at least an SD using dev to take a look
[15:21:36] stuartm: it might be a problem with the data, a discontinuity or something
[15:21:47] PSU: stuartm: that would be awesome; do you need me to provide my account details in a PM?
[15:23:06] stuartm: PSU: I'll let you know
[15:23:19] PSU: ok, thanks again!
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[15:43:54] Captain_Murdoch: HDHomeRun Prime refurbished for $99 on woot today for anyone interested. non-prime for $49.
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[16:32:45] Sharky112065: wagnerrp: how many multiplexes does the original hdhomerun record? Is it 4? or is it two like the HDHR3?
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[16:41:05] Sharky112065: Captain_Murdoch: yeah I ordered a non prime to replace an original hdhr v1 white box that the signal strength keeps fluctuating on. I'm just hoping it can record the same number of multiplexes that the original box did
[16:41:58] Sharky112065: $49.00 became $60.00
[16:42:23] Shadow__X: hey guys I have this problem http://pastebin.com/zwxYPeNF . I already ran mysqlcheck again then ran optimzie_mythdb.pl as per the wiki but it seems like there is still one problem. When I try to skip through a recording a seeking box comes up for a few seconds then eventually the recording skips forward. This is on mythtv 0.25.3, are the seeking tables for the recordings messed up?
[16:42:31] Sharky112065: 5 bucks shipping and they charged me tax even though they don't have a presence in my state
[16:50:10] Sharky112065: also remember they are refurbished units
[16:50:29] Sharky112065: so will be hit and miss probably as to if you get a good one.
[17:01:22] Shadow__X: got it just had to setup a userjob with this mythcommflag --file %FILE% --rebuild and just run it for the affected files
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[17:01:43] wagnerrp: Sharky112065: there are two different versions that you need to be concerned about
[17:01:51] wagnerrp: there is a two-tuner HDHR, and a single-tuner HDHR
[17:01:55] wagnerrp: one tuner means one multiplex
[17:02:11] wagnerrp: one multiplex means up to five simultaneous recordings of channels on that multiplex
[17:02:26] wagnerrp: note that overlapping recordings on a single channel count as two simultaneous recordings
[17:03:02] wagnerrp: also, if you're recording off broadcast channels, you're typically not going to get much benefit out of multirec, beyond the ability to add padding and do overlapping recordings on one tuner
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[17:39:50] Sharky112065: wagnerrp: ok im even more confused now. the specs for the hdhr3 say it has two tuners, but only has one coax connection. The old white box hdhr says it has two tuners and has two coax connections. I'm wondering if they both have the same number of multiplexes. In other words will I have the same functionality I now have by replacing the white box one with the newer black hdhr3 unit? I do
[17:39:50] Sharky112065: do back to back recording with padding so I want the same functionality I now have,.
[17:47:23] wagnerrp: the old one has two tuners
[17:47:26] wagnerrp: the new one has two tuners
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[17:57:53] Sharky112065: wagnerrp: ok thanks. guess it uses an internal splitter
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[17:59:30] Sharky112065: Out of 4 of the old ones, 2 have gone bad with fluctuating signal strength. Well one is still usable but glitchy when I watch shows that were recorded with it.
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[18:07:28] Sharky112065: I wonder why no one writes recording software that can use one tuner without multiplex that can record back to back programs with padding? seems like the channel's recording for both shows could be buffered to a file for buffering and then two seperate files could be created pulling data from the buffer file...
[18:07:34] Sharky112065: hope that made sense
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[18:08:05] wagnerrp: makes a lot of sense, no one has yet felt sufficient desire for that capability to do so
[18:08:06] Sharky112065: sure would save on tuners
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[18:08:35] Sharky112065: so peple have always had lots of money to throw at tuners?
[18:08:42] wagnerrp: seems the proper combination of desire and motivation has not yet met in one person
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[18:09:29] wagnerrp: with digital tuners, that behavior is already done... with analog tuners, you're usually talking cable channels, and you can pick up shows on a later repeat
[18:09:35] Sharky112065: ok.. seems like someone would have wanted it by now. too bad im not a programmer
[18:09:57] wagnerrp: neither am i, neither are a number of mythtv developers
[18:11:09] Sharky112065: Well what I mean is.. I used to write c code over 18 years ago, but I'm old now and have trouble remembering things wihtout having to write them down now :)
[18:11:26] Sharky112065: so that is not an option for me
[18:11:33] wagnerrp: sure it is
[18:11:42] wagnerrp: you're just not sufficiently motivated to do so
[18:13:09] Sharky112065: And how is that behavior already done wiht digital tuners? My ceton's do not multiplex.
[18:13:11] dekarl: Sharky112065: I'd like that feature for DVB recorders... but coding it is way more expensive then getting some more tuners :)
[18:13:33] wagnerrp: sure they do, if you have them configured to run in standard QAM mode
[18:13:51] wagnerrp: if you're using them as cablecard tuners, you can only record one channel at a time
[18:13:55] Sharky112065: I have cable cards in them..
[18:14:03] Sharky112065: need it for encrypted channels
[18:14:05] wagnerrp: and any overlap due to padding requires additional tuners to cover the overlap
[18:15:01] wagnerrp: Sharky112065: rest assured, most good ideas with respect to mythtv have already been had
[18:15:09] Sharky112065: OK, I was just wondering if there was an underlying reason it was not being done. Microsoft does not do it, when I had sagetv they told me it would be too difficult to rework the scheduling.....
[18:15:13] wagnerrp: that idea just needs someone willing to spend the time programming it
[18:15:44] Sharky112065: depends on each persons definition of good ideas
[18:16:48] Sharky112065: I have shaken my head several times on seeing a developer saying something was not needed because of this or that because they only saw it through their narrow vission of what their needs were
[18:17:08] wagnerrp: that's exactly right... their narrow vision of what their needs are
[18:17:34] wagnerrp: people are only going to spend time developing something they think they would find useful
[18:17:48] Sharky112065: Unless there is money involved
[18:17:56] Sharky112065: Then they do what they are told
[18:18:04] wagnerrp: where useful is defined by something they are personally going to use, or something someone pays them a commensurate amount for
[18:18:32] wagnerrp: if they don't find it useful, they're going to work on something else they do find useful
[18:18:49] wagnerrp: and then there's a sliding scale of how useful something is, compared to how much time it will take to do
[18:19:19] wagnerrp: back to my original point, there hasn't yet been someone who desired to have that feature, and was sufficiently motivated to program it
[18:19:54] wagnerrp: i know i can recall people requesting that feature at least five years back
[18:20:09] wagnerrp: but none of them have yet stepped up and produced it
[18:20:47] Sharky112065: Most of the code is there already isint it? when you watch live tv doesent it write what you are watching to disk?
[18:21:07] dekarl: maybe someone should put it on kickstarter ;)
[18:21:52] Sharky112065: what is kickstarter?
[18:22:13] wagnerrp: do you know what programming bounties are?
[18:22:20] Sharky112065: yes
[18:22:25] wagnerrp: think of the reverse
[18:22:35] stuartm: PSU: suggestion from another user is to delete the temporary files relating to mfdb from the /tmp directory
[18:22:44] wagnerrp: someone has an idea, and throws it up on a board for people to fund it
[18:24:18] Sharky112065: Oh yeah I remember that now.. its not just for mythtv.. ok
[18:24:39] Sharky112065: saw it on the news a while back
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[18:35:30] Sharky112065: guess I might take a crack at it. Have to learn c++ first, as I only know c. I'll try to tackle my problem with channel 111 apearing above 104,105,106,... in the guide first
[18:39:11] Sharky112065: thanks for the info. im off to sleep for a bit
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[18:43:20] PSU: stuartm: sorry just saw your note...can i just blow away all files from /tmp? then should i try the full update again?
[18:46:29] stuartm: PSU: Sharky112065's the one to ask, it was his suggestion, he's seen the problem before
[18:49:26] PSU: hey Sharky112065...pls see my question to stuartm...thanks!
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[18:52:39] wagnerrp: could be a while before you get a response... he's "off to sleep for a bit"
[18:53:27] PSU: haha...guess i'll blow away all of tmp then at least try :)
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[19:25:09] PSU: wohoo!!!! good job Sharky112065, and thanks for the support wagnerrp and stuartm! i now have listings! :)
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[20:11:47] Toast: Configure is disabling mythmusic because it can't find libtag. I have debian libtaglc2a installed which the prepackaged mythmusic lists as a dependency. How can I fix this? Thanks.
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[20:18:04] stuartm: libtaglc2a isn't the right library, I've no idea what it is ... you want libtag which on some distros may be packaged as taglib
[20:18:06] Finswimmer: Hello, I have a storage group for recordings which consists fo 3 folders on 3 different hdds. Now one hdd is full: 0b available. MythTV tries to record in this directory and fails, obviously. I have read that mythTV should detect a full directory and record to another...
[20:18:15] Finswimmer: What can I do? Thank you!
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[20:22:07] bill6502: Toast: In *buntu, its: sudo apt-get install libtag1-dev, or perhaps sudo apt-cache search libtag will locate what you want.
[20:22:55] Toast: bill6502: libtag1-dev looks promising. Thanks.
[20:22:59] Toast: stuartm: Thanks.
[20:23:05] bill6502: np
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[20:24:41] Toast: That fixed it :)
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[22:00:33] wagnerrp: kormoc: RDV was in the other channel asking about getting #11180 committed
[22:00:33] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11180 **
[22:01:25] kormoc: wagnerrp, looks good to me
[22:01:42] wagnerrp: IReboot: ^^^^
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[22:19:22] gryphon68: reinstalled Ubuntu on my Myth Backend, recordings directory was left untouched on a different drive. restored database, mostly good. But Mythweb Preview images are not working on old recordings. How can I regenerate these images or move them to the proper place
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[22:46:06] IReboot: kormoc and wagnerrp: thanks for looking at those patches. It obviously help my Lossless Cut utilities functionality.
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[22:56:31] Sharky112065: PSU: glad to hear it worked. back to bed for me.
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[23:04:34] PSU: :)
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