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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012, 00:05 UTC
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[00:29:31] oobe: my backend runs as root lol
[00:30:15] oobe: I remember modifying my init scripts so it ran as a user but for some reason on this install it had no glitches with root
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[00:54:57] sl1ce: yea my backend is running under user mythtv, mythtv user must not have permission to write to my recording location
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[01:15:48] tgm4883: sl1ce, where is your storage group for recordings?
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[01:19:32] sl1ce: i have my recordings going to a mounted drive in /mnt/
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[01:20:21] sl1ce: when start mythbackend from root it works good
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[01:53:55] ertyu-m: ok, I've spent far too much time debugging digital video, the artifacts in the video test movies drive me nuts
[01:54:11] ertyu-m: at least they are consistent between profiles, telling me there are rendering issues, it's just the content
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[02:26:31] sl1ce: still no luck when mythtv runs as user mythtv, can't access my recordings from frontend running as a different user
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[02:36:28] skd5aner: ls -la /place/where/you/store/recordings... make sure the mythtv user has W access or is in a group that does, pretty simple to check and fix
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[02:39:58] koffel: Hey all can i use spif input on a hdpvr with mythtv .23?
[02:40:21] [R]: yes
[02:40:41] koffel: Is there a easy way to do it?
[02:42:04] [R]: the same as not using the spdif
[02:42:52] koffel: I did that but it crashes when i use spif
[02:43:00] [R]: "it" crashes?
[02:43:14] koffel: Mythfrontend
[02:43:27] [R]: the frontend has nothing to do with your hdpvr...
[02:45:22] koffel: Wonder why the frontend crashes when i use spif
[02:46:03] [R]: first of all... there is no spif... second of all what do you mean it crashes when you "use spdif"?
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[02:47:40] koffel: If i use spdif on hdpvr as audio input and start the mythfrontend it starts and says please wait then goes right to desktop
[02:48:24] [R]: your recordings might be corrupt
[02:48:32] [R]: what does the frontend log say
[02:49:38] koffel: Says error unknown recording type
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[02:51:29] [R]: you should file a bug report and include a small sample of the file and the backend logs from recording and the frontend logs from playback
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[02:54:44] koffel: I will
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[03:07:19] jgautier: any ideas?
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[10:17:58] ahhughes: how can I tell what version of mythtv I have installed using apt?
[10:19:16] clever: ahhughes: mythfrontend --version
[10:28:46] ahhughes: that just started the frontend.
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[10:30:26] ahhughes: got it, apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend
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[11:03:12] dekarl: ahhughes: mythfrontend.real --version ^^
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[12:03:27] ahhughes: Im just about to upgrade my mythbuntu machine... anyone know if I need to stop the backend/frontend or anything todo this safely? Im also assuming I just open the update manager and hit update
[12:04:06] ahhughes: havent done this in ~9months so its a big fingers crossed moment (but am taking a backup just in case)
[12:05:22] dekarl: ahhughes: you might want to manually stop the backend just in case. Are you updating from "old" to 12.04 LTS?
[12:05:43] dekarl: If so, be aware that the minimum supported version on 12.04 LTS is mythtv 0.25-fixes
[12:08:50] ahhughes: I think this is still 11.04
[12:09:03] ahhughes: I cant look right now as its doing a backup
[12:10:44] ahhughes: dekarl, how do I stop the backend?
[12:11:51] dekarl: run "sudo service mythtv-backend stop"
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[12:13:13] dekarl: ahhughes: If I understand correctly you can update Ubuntu 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 LTS but there might be some fallout (there's been reports of some customized things breaking when updating to 12.04)
[12:13:37] dekarl: you might want to first update mythtv / packages while staying on Ubuntu 11.04
[12:13:48] ahhughes: will do
[12:14:06] ahhughes: ok, backend stopped... just have frontend and welcome to kill now
[12:14:11] ahhughes: not sure how tho :'(
[12:15:17] dekarl: "sudo killall mythfrontend", "sudo killall mythfrontend.real" "sudo killall mythwelcome", something like that. "top" and then "u" "mythtv" will help you find the process names
[12:16:07] clever: dekarl: 'killall' can take multiple programs at once
[12:16:15] dekarl: do you intend to also update your mythtv version between versions? (e.g. 0.24-fixes to 0.25-fixes)
[12:16:26] dekarl: clever: thanks, I'm never sure how the linux variant works :)
[12:16:27] clever: it can even take a username directly, but that would also nuke shells
[12:16:40] stuartm: killall *
[12:16:42] ahhughes: done
[12:16:56] ahhughes: well I have an error with ubuntu now, so might go try sort that out.
[12:17:18] ahhughes: dekarl, not sure how the best want to update is.
[12:17:55] dekarl: ahhughes: depends on where you come from and where you want to go (version wise)
[12:18:14] stuartm: I wonder if I can persuade the ubuntu folk to at least pass --version/--help etc through in their wrapper script
[12:20:28] dekarl: tgm4883: superm1: -^
[12:22:15] stuartm: is anyone using wireless headphones with Myth? I'm struggling to find a half decent but cheap set, that ideally allows me to switch between headphones/speakers at the flick of a switch (even better if it's on the headphones themselves)
[12:22:58] dekarl: sounds like a use case for pulseaudio SCNR
[12:23:38] stuartm: if the solution means using PA I'd rather just forget the whole idea :)
[12:24:53] stuartm: seems most analogue RF ones suffer from interference/hiss, bluetooth means lousy battery life and a seperate audio device, IR might be an option although I'm dubious about the sound quality and the possible reception issues, that leaves Digital RF
[12:26:16] stuartm: Digital of course being the most expensive :/
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[12:32:26] stuartm: bah, I'll just get an extension for my wired ones
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[12:50:07] Guest87843: can i install 0.24 fixes front end on a 03.2.0-23-generic platform
[12:50:31] Guest87843: as it suggest 0.25 fixes in the packet manager
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[18:57:07] wagnerrp: dmfrey: there is a way to set up a "dummy" recorder
[18:57:18] wagnerrp: you just feed it some generic mpeg2 file existing on your filesystem
[18:57:35] wagnerrp: and give it a dummy video source with channel
[18:57:48] dmfrey: ok
[18:58:03] wagnerrp: but you need some kind of configured tuner, or else the scheduler will report a fault and the backend will terminate
[18:58:30] dmfrey: but i do need to subnet it some way as well so 2 master backends aren't on the same network
[18:59:32] wagnerrp: two master backends can operate just fine on the same physical and logical subnet
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[18:59:44] wagnerrp: the issue is that any UPnP devices will detect both frontends
[19:00:11] wagnerrp: and in regards to mythtv's own UPnP autodetection, it may have trouble selecting the proper one
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[19:02:57] dmfrey: my home network is on 192.168.10 and vbox in nat mode will assign a dhcp address in 10.0.2 (usually 10.0.2.15) for a guest (10.0.2.2 is the host address for android emulator), so I should be ok to have that on my laptop, but not sure how to get the android emulator to talk to it since it too wants to use 10.0.2.2
[19:03:59] wagnerrp: configure your android device to have an extra alias on the other subnet
[19:04:43] dmfrey: i will have to check if the emulator allows for that
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[19:54:01] sl1ce: i checked my write permissions for user myth tv and it has all the flags drwxrwxrwx 2 mythtv mythtv 16384 Oct 24 02:19 .
[19:54:52] sl1ce: but when the backend runs as mythtv user it won't create any files
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[20:05:35] wagnerrp: what directory do you have mythtv configured to write to?
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[20:10:09] sl1ce: a drive that i mounted in /mnt/
[20:10:30] sl1ce: its /mnt/threeoffour/MythTV/
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[20:26:49] sl1ce: want me to pull the log for you?
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[20:39:34] neufeld: sl1ce: you might have checked this, but do you have read permission in the parent chain? If /mnt or /mnt/threeoffour are 0700 and owned by somebody else, then you won't be able to get to your writing dir.
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[20:43:58] sl1ce: yea my three of four user is owned by a different user
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[21:11:47] sl1ce: it always trys to find the file remotely when the backend runs as mythtv
[21:11:50] sl1ce: PlaybackBoxHelper: CHECK_AVAILABILITY 'myth://192.168.2.151:6543/2823_20121024010000.mpg' file not found
[21:12:17] sl1ce: what would make it try to run as a remote frontend?
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