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Friday, October 12th, 2012, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:49] justinh: stuartm: that was my main reason for trying to do a single record button on the guide grid in mythweb. turned out to be much more difficult than even I envisaged
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[00:41:19] jm|laptop: I have a file that mplayer thinks is 25.00 fps and ffmpeg says is 26.85 fps
[00:41:23] jm|laptop: which is likely to be right?
[00:44:39] wagnerrp: well you shouldnt have anything that is 26.85 fps, unless it's switching between multiple framerates and ffmpeg is giving you an average
[00:44:53] wagnerrp: of course in north america, you shouldn't have anything that is 25 fps either
[00:44:56] jm|laptop: oh.
[00:45:09] jm|laptop: well this is Europe :)
[00:45:31] wagnerrp: oh? for some reason i thought you were in the US
[00:45:37] jm|laptop: mediainfo agrees: Frame rate  : 25.000 fps
[00:45:42] wagnerrp: nevermind that then
[00:47:25] jm|laptop: and recordedmarkup agrees, too
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[03:57:01] lordhedgehog: I have two problems that I suspect are related... My Schedules Direct listings are downloading but not showing in the program guide, and in mythtv-setup, Channel Editor won't open. Any ideas?
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[04:07:42] wagnerrp: mmm... "video series downloaded from the internet"
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[04:40:53] sphery: wagnerrp: perhaps the Big Buck Bunny series?  :)
[04:41:53] sphery: lordhedgehog: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 (in case you happen to read channel logs)
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[05:44:42] Blackrain01: yo
[05:45:02] Blackrain01: Wag, xris, you around?
[05:46:17] xris: ?
[05:46:29] Blackrain01: sup bro
[05:46:36] Blackrain01: Just wanted to swing in and say thanks for your help last night
[05:46:42] Blackrain01: I got everything up and running smooth
[05:48:08] xris: excellent
[05:48:21] xris: I should check and see what recorded today.
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[05:49:04] Blackrain01: the ati issue
[05:49:14] Blackrain01: I had to add radeon.audio=1 to grub
[05:49:39] xris: huh
[05:50:58] Blackrain01: exactly :P
[05:51:02] Blackrain01: to get hdmi audio working
[05:51:23] xris: well, as was said.. ati and linux have never played very well together
[05:52:00] Blackrain01: it was actually a bug introduced with version 12 of ubuntu
[05:52:02] Blackrain01: not an ati issue
[05:52:09] xris: this latest round of distro releases has been odd, though. gnome 3 and systemd really threw me for a loop
[05:54:01] ** xris goes to hunt beer **
[06:11:12] Blackrain01: added radeon.audio=1 to /etc/default/grub
[06:11:19] Blackrain01: ran update-grub
[06:11:21] Blackrain01: bam audio
[06:11:23] Blackrain01: rofl
[06:11:31] Blackrain01: got my mythmote up and runinng on my phone
[06:11:34] Blackrain01: sweeetness :P
[06:11:40] wizbit: mythweb shows 2x recordings what are 'currently recording' however, those were from yesterday and are not being recorded?
[06:11:47] wizbit: ive had this quite a few times
[06:12:55] wizbit: if i restart the backend, it clears itself
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[06:15:55] wizbit: also my tuners start on Encoder 12 to Encoder 19. how can i change those back to Encoder 1 to 8 ?
[06:17:05] wizbit: i dont have any tv recordings i want, i might create a fresh new database for 0.26
[06:18:20] [R]: delete and recreate them
[06:18:34] [R]: you mght nee dto truncate the table, who knows
[06:18:38] [R]: why does it matter what # they are?
[06:19:31] wizbit: im gonna wait until mythtv 0.27.1, then create a new freash clean database for it
[06:19:46] wizbit: its not as if i will lose anything i need
[06:19:57] [R]: lol
[06:20:13] [R]: why wait for 27.1... you shoudl probably just wait for 28.1
[06:20:17] wizbit: i think tvwish is causing problems with stuck 'currently recording'
[06:21:26] wizbit: [R]: im not sure if those encoder numbers are related to me having stuck currently recordings
[06:21:33] wizbit: in upcoming recordings on mythweb
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[06:21:48] [R]: why would your encoder number matter?
[06:22:35] wizbit: im unsure
[06:23:06] wizbit: im just thinking outside the box
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[06:33:28] darkstarbyte: Wow mediatomb brought down X.
[06:33:38] darkstarbyte: and everything screen related.
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[06:34:05] wagnerrp: since when does mediatomb even use X?
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[06:34:16] darkstarbyte: wrong one
[06:34:32] darkstarbyte: I got the name backwords since they both start with m
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[06:35:01] darkstarbyte: Though my mediatomb streams everything from myth
[06:35:19] darkstarbyte: mythtv did it.
[06:35:25] darkstarbyte: When I tried to edit a video
[06:35:49] darkstarbyte: Lets see if it happens again, you will know if I disconnect again.
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[06:41:08] wagnerrp: seems it did it again
[06:42:19] [R]: lol
[06:42:56] darkstarbyte: I narrowed that down
[06:43:22] darkstarbyte: I wonder which logs are useful about now?
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[06:46:47] darkstarbyte: Nothing useful in the Xorg logs
[06:47:47] darkstarbyte: dmesg is only for everything the current boot.
[06:49:27] darkstarbyte: The first few bytes of the video might have some error that is causing some sort of driver bug.
[06:49:42] darkstarbyte: I mean later in it.
[06:50:02] wagnerrp: does that imply hardware decoding?
[06:50:12] darkstarbyte: Anyone using the i915 drivers
[06:50:22] darkstarbyte: Maybe.
[06:50:42] wagnerrp: no, mythtv doesn't support any form of hardware acceleration on i915 graphics
[06:51:09] darkstarbyte: I am not sure how to get any info.
[06:51:48] wagnerrp: is this an old P4?
[06:51:57] darkstarbyte: nocona or something
[06:54:02] wagnerrp: i dont know what that is
[06:54:05] darkstarbyte: You have an idea?
[06:54:10] darkstarbyte: It is an old P4
[06:54:50] wagnerrp: first guess, time to upgrade
[06:56:04] wagnerrp: second guess, there is none, im going to bed
[06:57:20] darkstarbyte: This happened before.
[06:57:40] darkstarbyte: Just not this bad.
[06:57:59] darkstarbyte: On things like American dad and Family guy it does not happen
[06:58:25] darkstarbyte: I don't like either very much, but I have to record them for someone.
[06:58:54] darkstarbyte: Just any non-cartoons I guess.
[06:59:40] darkstarbyte: I am so tired, goog night.
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[07:10:20] jellevl: trying to get 0ccd:0099 to work (Cinergy T Stick Dual) but keeping these errors in dmesg: dvb_usb_af9015: probe of 1–3:1.0 failed with error -1 // usbcore: registered new interface driver dvb_usb_af9015 can someone point me in the right direction ?
[07:14:05] [R]: sounds like not a mythtv problem
[07:14:48] jellevl: its an issue with my dvb-t usb card indeed, as im trying to get some help, searched google for over more then 5 hours now with no solution
[07:15:39] [R]: linuxtv has great documeatntion and mailing lists
[07:16:55] jellevl: tried there irc channel as well but no one there to awnser atm, tried the v4l-dvb as well but doesnt seem to help me
[07:17:12] jellevl: but i understand i can/may not ask the question i had here
[07:17:19] jellevl: sorry for the inconveniance
[07:18:12] ServerSage: jellevl: It's not that you *can't* ask, but chances are pretty good nobody will know the answer here.
[07:19:13] jellevl: ok didnt wanna be a smartass, but i can understand it if i may not ask those questions, atm i will try anything to get it working and maybe other users here use an usb dvb-t device
[07:19:19] jellevl: thats why i tried it
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[17:03:30] Captain_Murdoch: stuartm, I can feel his pain. I spent a couple nights earlier this week upgrading my main two frontends to Fedora 17 from my Fedora 14 nfsroot image so I could future proof myself for 0.27. still need to update my dev system as well since that only has 4.7.2 on it. and then later come the joys of updating the backends with the same 4.7.2 limit. I'm fine with the the new 4.8 target though.
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[18:11:44] stuartm: Captain_Murdoch: yeah, it can be a pain, especially if you leave it a long time and have to upgrade several versions in one go – I find it a lot easier these days to upgrade to the latest version a few weeks after they become available, in that way I can do a simple package upgrade and it's much simpler
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[18:15:17] stuartm: I didn't do that on my production setup (mythbuntu), and have regretted it because instead of dealing with one or two upgrade related problems every 6 months I've hit several all at once in upgrading 2–3 versions back to back
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[18:36:56] Captain_Murdoch: I normally just stay in the same place for years for stability. backends are still CentOS 5.x running MythTV v0.25 because I haven't upgraded yet.
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[18:57:46] stuartm: quiet tonight
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[19:03:44] tgm4883: stuartm, but it's only noon ;)
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[19:04:21] stuartm: heh
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[19:34:40] trumee: wagnerrp: ping
[19:37:36] trumee: are there any ebuilds of 0.26 for gentoo?
[19:40:23] [R]: i should probably update to 26
[19:40:33] [R]: i should probably do general maintannece n my mythbox too... lol
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[20:01:55] justinh: should probably back up your database every night :-P
[20:02:02] justinh: (if you dson't already!)
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[20:03:38] justinh: BTW, on a packagey / upgradey note has anyone else ever seen the Ubuntu Software Centre hiding debconf popups? Packages of the web app I make for work appear to hang when installing the .deb but it's cos the software center app is hiding the debconf messages
[20:03:45] [R]: backups are for sissies
[20:04:14] [R]: taht gui garbage is for sissies also
[20:04:32] justinh: [R]: are you channeling Stallman tonight? ;-)
[20:04:44] [R]: rofl
[20:05:28] stuartm: anyone going to the Nottingham Beer Festival tomorrow?
[20:06:08] [R]: beer is lame
[20:06:10] justinh: gah. Just spend another daft session trying to plug in an SD card to the multi-reader, blind. Next time I buy a plan SD card reader with ONE slot
[20:06:49] justinh: [R] SD cards are lame
[20:07:04] [R]: you're right
[20:07:14] [R]: thats why google isn't having them put in phonex anymore
[20:08:04] justinh: whaaa?
[20:08:25] justinh: not that I would buy a Google branded phone. Can't afford em
[20:08:57] justinh: unexpandable memory, unreplaceable battery, untake-apartable casing... there's an iPatent for that
[20:08:58] [R]: any decent phone is all the same price here really
[20:09:13] [R]: $500–600
[20:09:32] justinh: my phone is a ZTE blade. It's alright for the money :-)
[20:10:09] justinh: my sister has an Android I can't remember the make/model of, but it retails for about £500 SIM free.. and it's about as laggy as mine
[20:10:16] [R]: ZTE is chinese spyware
[20:10:33] justinh: as opposed to plain Google or Apple spyware
[20:10:41] [R]: pretty much
[20:11:05] [R]: if the US government is telling me not to do business with ZTE, i trust them
[20:11:35] justinh: oh I forgot Blackberry spyware. Whoops
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[20:12:10] jams: kk
[20:12:33] justinh: oh, I saw a load of funny stuff when I logged into a server I support in NZ today. EXE files in the user's Downloads folder
[20:12:58] justinh: such as... .net, BB desktop... and some warez
[20:13:16] justinh: odd stuff to have lying around a Linux machine methinks
[20:15:16] justinh: and the sneaky buggers have moved the original machine to a VM now. df found em out. Those long mount point names are pretty unmistakable
[20:16:34] justinh: so, when they come back & ask us why the app isn't running properly again... I got AMMO!
[20:17:24] wizbit: justinh: are you a sys admin now?
[20:17:47] justinh: kinda
[20:17:55] wizbit: nice
[20:18:02] wizbit: i would spend the whole day on irc
[20:18:13] stuartm: I actually trust chinese spyware more than I do american spyware, for a start I'm a long, long way from China and they don't exactly share information with my own government – secondly I'm of no interest whatsoever to the Chinese, I'm not a defence contractor or government worker, in fact I'm just not interesting
[20:18:34] [R]: lol
[20:19:12] stuartm: Google on the other hand, well they'd sell my information to anyone if they saw a profit in it
[20:19:16] justinh: wizbit: I used to, inbetween bits of work.. but since I changed hats I'm a *lot* busier now
[20:19:37] stuartm: advertisers, governments, the guy living across the street from me ...
[20:20:32] wizbit: this weekend mission: upgraded laptop & hackintosh to mountain lion. upgrade server to slackware 14. upgrade 2x frontends to slackware 14. upgrade VPS to slackware 14
[20:21:05] justinh: it's kinda sysadmin-ish, debugging PHP ish, making packages-ish... and I'm currently working on building another custom distro because the CEO has decided OpenSuSE isn't for us. Grrr. Oh, and trying to sort out making a Windows installer for the VM images because some of our usebase are incapable of installing VirtualBox & doubleclicking a .vbox file
[20:23:09] wizbit: sounds like a fun job
[20:23:38] wizbit: you learn lots by doing odd jobs like that
[20:24:06] stuartm: wasn't it an xkcd that posited that Google was just an elaborate cover for building echelon 2.0? That's scarily conceivable, well except for the bit about a government managing to make a success from an IT project and even turning a profit from it
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[20:37:54] justinh: I'm now a lot better bash script writer than I used to be.. been known to fix Atmel C & python scripts too
[20:38:15] justinh: still have to do my crappy old job sometimes though :-\
[20:39:19] justinh: stuartm: surely FB would be a better candidate for Eschelon/Skynet. More people are signed up to that :D
[20:39:42] justinh: whatever happened to G+ anyways?
[20:44:28] stuartm: justinh: google stuff is used on a vast number of websites, they host some popular javascript frameworks for example which are used extensively, then you've got Google Analytics, Google Adverts (Doubleclick etc) in addition to the more obvious google branded services (e.g. Gmail, G+, Google Search, Google Docs, Android, Youtube and on, and on)
[20:45:20] stuartm: even the mythtv.org website sends data on every visitor directly to google, it's pretty much impossible to avoid ever crossing their radar
[20:46:04] justinh: oops forgot about google services
[20:46:31] stuartm: as for Skynet, well that really does exist, only it's UK military network rather than a self-aware system created in the US
[20:46:53] justinh: heh I knew that
[20:47:27] justinh: gah. 216 photos to print
[20:47:57] justinh: still, not bad managing to whittle about 5 bazillion down to that few
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[21:17:33] justinh: ARGGHH. Stupid Picasa. I thought it could filter by tags
[21:27:09] stuartm: oh, and Picasa
[21:31:09] justinh: heh. I don't upload anymore. Would've ran out of space ages ago
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[21:48:25] pyther24_: I have a fedora 17 box running 0.25.2, however the box will never update tv listings unless I run mythfilldatabase, I have been baffled by this problem and have no idea how to troubleshoot it
[21:48:56] [R]: so go into mythtv-setup and tell it to automatically run it
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[21:51:53] pyther: [R]: on "Program Schedule Downloading Options" I have "Automatically update program listings" checked
[21:52:05] pyther: I also have "Run guide data program ata time suggested by the grabber"
[21:52:40] justinh: yeah but.. do you also run mythfilldatabase as the user mythbackend runs as when you run it manually?
[21:53:14] pyther: no I most certainly can try
[21:56:00] pyther: so this is the log from todays run (automatic) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mAtwhiCb
[21:56:07] pyther: however I have no new guide data
[21:59:29] justinh: oh mixing digital (OTA) and SD.. you may have fallen victim to not knowing that your scanned channels must all have xmltvids otherwise they won't be populated with data
[22:00:17] justinh: you'll tend to end up with basically 2 sets of channels. the first you scanned, and actually work, but have no EPG data. The second will be populated by mythfilldatabase, will be untuneable but will have good guide data
[22:00:33] justinh: but that may not be the case since you say running mythfilldb manually seems to work
[22:00:46] pyther: so I only have 3 channels without XMLTV guide data
[22:01:00] pyther: and that is only because comcast screwed and is broadcasting cable channel unencrypted
[22:01:35] pyther: plus those channels don't have guide data from schedule direct to begin with
[22:01:48] pyther: all other channels, have valid (as far as I can tell) xmltvids
[22:02:16] pyther: running as my mythtv user might be the answer
[22:02:19] pyther: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'m2n.leap.lan' (using password: YES)
[22:02:35] pyther: not sure why that didn't hit the logs, but should be easy enough to fix, hopefully
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[22:04:09] justinh: so it ran but couldn't insert any data into the database :-)
[22:04:33] pyther: seems that way, the error log seems to tell a much different story, I'm going to add the user and see what happens
[22:10:58] justinh: I usually do a grant all identified by mythtv on * kinda thing on my mysql
[22:11:22] pyther: that sounds pretty reasonable
[22:11:41] justinh: so long as you never let the internet at the mysql server, yeah :-)
[22:11:57] pyther: yah the box just sits on my lan
[22:12:07] pyther: I'm the only user in my lan, so I trust myself :)
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[22:33:13] pyther: justinh: thanks for the help, I'll keep an eye on my mythbox and see if it'll automatically fetch the data
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