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| [00:17:28] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: do you know of any way to read the timezone data back out of a mysql database without requiring special access to those tables? |
| [00:17:49] | kormoc: | the active timezone or all the timezone data? |
| [00:18:18] | wagnerrp: | all would be better, active would probably be sufficient |
| [00:18:34] | kormoc: | SELECT @@global.time_zone; |
| [00:18:41] | kormoc: | That's pretty much all you can do without access to the tables |
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| [00:19:08] | wagnerrp: | and thats nothing but a name |
| [00:19:28] | kormoc: | yeah |
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| [00:19:43] | wagnerrp: | in the bindings, rather than having to add a bunch of code to properly manage timezones in the mysql syntax |
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| [00:20:11] | wagnerrp: | im loading in the /etc/localtime zoneinfo file and making sure im always passing UTC into the queries |
| [00:20:29] | wagnerrp: | that works fine for linux and freebsd.... maybe not for osx... certainly not for windows |
| [00:21:02] | wagnerrp: | if i can't get a proper zoneinfo file, i fall back to a static offset, which means it's not going to be correct going across transitions |
| [00:27:36] | kormoc: | you can set mysql time zones with set session timezone="+0:00" |
| [00:27:39] | kormoc: | or similar |
| [00:27:50] | sphery: | wagnerrp: no... I still have the services proxy on my dev box, but haven't put it in, yet... need to, though, for the logging stuff |
| [00:28:09] | sphery: | then have mythweb use the logging stuff through that proxy |
| [00:29:22] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: i need to do timezone handling independently for interfacing with the backend protocol and services api anyway |
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| [00:43:10] | sphery: | wow, very impressed with bas-t... quick response on moving the bug report from our trac to mythbuntu theme's bug database and no argument and actually said thanks for the links. |
| [00:43:16] | sphery: | if only it were always that easy |
| [00:44:14] | sphery: | maybe tgm4883 should try to recruit him to help :) |
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| [01:31:11] | tgm4883: | sphery, yep, that would be helpful. I'm planning on pulling out some of the more recent additions as it seems to cause some issues |
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| [02:05:30] | UForgotten: | so is mythbuntu still the most active distro? kinda looks that way from the web. |
| [02:05:47] | tgm4883: | UForgotten, I would say it's the most used |
| [02:06:56] | tlhiv_laptop: | i have several video files that have multiple audio "tracks" in them, but mythtv video player appears to play the last track instead of the first ... how can i override this? |
| [02:07:06] | UForgotten: | I guess it beats rolling your own. too bad mythdora appears to be dying. maybe I can get some fuduntu linux ppl interested in it. |
| [02:07:31] | wagnerrp: | assuming your tracks are properly labeled in language, it should pick the one of your selected language |
| [02:09:08] | tlhiv_laptop: | wagnerrp: well there seem to be some that have multiple track (streams) in the same language |
| [02:09:27] | wagnerrp: | it should pick the first in that case |
| [02:09:33] | wagnerrp: | and the first should be the not-commentary one |
| [02:09:34] | tlhiv_laptop: | for example, several have a "default" audio track "mplayer -aid 1" and a commentary track "-aid 2" |
| [02:10:26] | tlhiv_laptop: | it's choosing the -aid 2 |
| [02:10:36] | tlhiv_laptop: | although my player settings do not indicate this |
| [02:11:44] | tlhiv_laptop: | when i play the file manually with mplayer via the command line i get --> http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/qT3jA92O |
| [02:12:00] | tlhiv_laptop: | -aid 1 plays fine and -aid 2 is the commentary track |
| [02:12:20] | tlhiv_laptop: | mythtv seems to be playing -aid 2 (or perhaps it's playing them both) |
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| [02:15:26] | tgm4883: | UForgotten, is there a problem using Mythbuntu? |
| [02:15:48] | wagnerrp: | probably doesnt like ubuntu |
| [02:16:24] | wagnerrp: | rather than something against mythbuntu in particular |
| [02:16:26] | tlhiv_laptop: | actually i'm using the mythtv default player and it is selecting "2: Undetermined AC3 2ch" audio track instead of "1: Undetermined AC3 1ch" |
| [02:16:40] | wagnerrp: | well theres your problem |
| [02:16:44] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, perhaps, I fail to see why he's talking about getting fuduntu ppl interested in it |
| [02:17:10] | wagnerrp: | lacking any other information, it's choosing the "better" audio track |
| [02:17:28] | tlhiv_laptop: | hehe ... what makes "2" better than "1"? |
| [02:17:39] | wagnerrp: | two channels, as opposed to one |
| [02:17:53] | wagnerrp: | stereo, mono |
| [02:18:42] | tlhiv_laptop: | ah ... ok can i permanently set it for one particular video via mysql or something? |
| [02:18:52] | wagnerrp: | not that im aware of |
| [02:19:14] | wagnerrp: | although if you use the ISO rather than the transcoded version, it would probably work automagically |
| [02:20:17] | tlhiv_laptop: | is there a way to take the video and the audio track that i want and either remove the other audio track or transcode it without that track and without having to reencode anything (simply copy)? |
| [02:20:34] | wagnerrp: | yeah, remux it |
| [02:20:41] | wagnerrp: | preferably to something better than avi |
| [02:21:13] | tlhiv_laptop: | hehe |
| [02:21:40] | UForgotten: | tgm4883: yeah, its ubuntu XD |
| [02:22:04] | tgm4883: | UForgotten, ah ok, that is a good reason. |
| [02:22:24] | tlhiv_laptop: | mencoder -o bar.avi -aid 1 -oac copy -ovc copy foo.avi |
| [02:22:29] | tgm4883: | UForgotten, so I suppose you compile all of your packages like wagnerrp then? |
| [02:22:30] | tlhiv_laptop: | this seems fine (and it's fast) |
| [02:22:42] | tgm4883: | UForgotten, or are you just too much of a hipster to like Ubuntu? |
| [02:22:44] | UForgotten: | nope. nothing against mythbuntu, lots of work has clearly gone into it. just don't like dealing with stupid ubuntu-isms |
| [02:23:52] | [R]: | wtf is an ubuntu-ism? "it works"? |
| [02:24:52] | UForgotten: | look I didn't come here to start a distro gripe fest. was just curious what distros are more popular. |
| [02:25:58] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu is by far the most popular, if for no other reason than they told their users to enable the stats mechanism |
| [02:26:12] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:26:13] | UForgotten: | heh. |
| [02:26:27] | wagnerrp: | there are assuredly considerably more mythbuntu users than show up on smolt, and considerably more from other distros |
| [02:26:34] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, if that is the case, I far underestimated my power |
| [02:27:13] | wagnerrp: | im just saying those smolt numbers can't really be trusted as a statistically proper sampling |
| [02:27:20] | ** tgm4883 remembers "Die Hard 3" where bruce willis is wearing a sandwich board in harlem ** | |
| [02:27:37] | UForgotten: | yippie kay yay melon farmer |
| [02:27:47] | wagnerrp: | i should have the smolt stuff moved into the libraries and controlled by the backend early on in 0.27 |
| [02:28:58] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I don't think you can hold that against us. You can only use the stats available. |
| [02:29:14] | tgm4883: | If our users want to stand and be counted, then I think that has to mean something |
| [02:29:22] | wagnerrp: | no, certainly not |
| [02:29:42] | wagnerrp: | im just saying it's not going to be a reliable count |
| [02:30:01] | tgm4883: | meh, nothing is a reliable count |
| [02:30:19] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt doubt mythbuntu accounts for easily better than 50% of the user base |
| [02:30:27] | UForgotten: | not since jerry nelson died |
| [02:30:44] | tgm4883: | you could check SD numbers, but that would be US only. You could turn it on by default, but that wouldn't count people without an internet connection |
| [02:31:04] | wagnerrp: | but for 0.24 and previous, you would think everyone ran mythtv on fedora |
| [02:31:04] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [02:31:08] | tgm4883: | You could ask everyone to send in an email, but requiring people to do something is never 100% |
| [02:31:33] | UForgotten: | yeah you should just turn it on by default andh ave ppl opt out like most user data collection stuffs |
| [02:31:44] | wagnerrp: | no, but as it is currently, its a bit hidden |
| [02:32:03] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, should just put it at the end of the web mythtv setup |
| [02:32:07] | tgm4883: | "do you want to be counted" |
| [02:32:14] | wagnerrp: | yeah, something like that |
| [02:32:36] | wagnerrp: | instead of tucked away in some frontend setup wizard most users dont even know exists |
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| [02:38:33] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I'd agree. I'd say we do have some swing. Back when I was watching the numbers, you could see the movement based on things we'd do. IIRC, there was a jump when we asked people to be counted. But much after that, you can see that changes in numbers of 32-bit vs 64-bit after we went 64-bit as recommended/default |
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| [04:08:15] | Shadow__X: | what do you get out of knowing a rough estimate of how many mythtv systems are in use? I am not sure if that information is mentioned somewhere |
| [04:08:47] | [R]: | how much longer until myth takes over the world |
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| [09:18:20] | n1md4: | monkeypet69: Yes, I am using LIRC. |
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| [09:36:40] | Specka: | hi all |
| [09:38:34] | Specka: | mythtv 0.25 fresh install is there anyway of updating mythvideo Metadata Bulk like the old version Jamu.py could be run to do the mass updates is there anyway in 0.25 to do this |
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| [10:36:13] | stuartm: | Specka: mythmetadatalookup |
| [10:38:34] | Specka: | stuartm how do i kick it off have over 1100 items and running the --refresh-all-rules etc has updated any of the Metadata at all |
| [10:39:15] | Specka: | within 48 hr only maybe 20 items out of 1100 have updated with metadata |
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| [12:09:56] | toeb: | Specka: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup |
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| [12:57:33] | wagnerrp: | stuartm, toeb: mythmetadatalookup is only for recordings |
| [12:57:43] | wagnerrp: | not mythvideo/Video Library stuff |
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| [12:59:43] | rhce7320: | Is there any way to recover the frontend setup password? |
| [13:00:00] | wagnerrp: | likely stored in plain text in the database |
| [13:00:25] | rhce7320: | backend...? |
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| [17:02:45] | mkrufky: | hi guys... im having a problem ever since i upgraded to ubuntu precise. (im not blaming ubuntu nor myth for this, just saying) ... I am using a Nettop ION 330 as my dedicated frontend, and it all ran very nicely with (i forgot which version of mythbuntu) and now after I've upgraded to the mytbuntu "precise" build, now i have choppy playback.... . all plays very nice for a few seconds, then i lose audio and all is choppy. i checked and i am inde |
| [17:03:54] | mkrufky: | after the upgrade and experiencing this problem i figured "maybe its an upgrade issue" so i wiped away the partition and installed mythbuntu from scratch... still choppy playback. im pretty sure its a configuration issue in the frontend machine |
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| [17:10:31] | mkrufky: | ... i'll stick around all day. hopefully someone can help — i am holding off watching Revolution (hopefully its worth watching?) until I can fix my mythfrontend .... dont really have much of a choice, :-/ |
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| [19:15:29] | mkrufky: | anybody want to help with my choppy playback issue on my fresh install on my dedicated mythfrontend on a ION 330? |
| [19:16:28] | Sharky112065: | im not gonna be here long, but what does the log file say for the frontend? |
| [19:16:37] | mkrufky: | i'll grab it, brb |
| [19:18:26] | mkrufky: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213499/ |
| [19:19:50] | mkrufky: | hmm, obviously, scoll to the bottom, Sharky112065. ever since this fresh install when i watch a recording its fine for a few seconds, then gets all choppy and i lose audio |
| [19:20:01] | mkrufky: | older builds worked fine |
| [19:20:15] | mkrufky: | i am using VDPAU |
| [19:21:46] | mkrufky: | ...and now im seeing from the logs i should increase the size of my audio buffer... i guess this is somethng new? i'll try that |
| [19:21:52] | stoth: | sounds like the audio is playing too slowly. |
| [19:22:12] | Sharky112065: | I was about to suggest that from looking at the log file |
| [19:24:52] | mkrufky: | i did 'echo 128 | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm3p/sub0/prealloc' and it didnt help |
| [19:25:54] | mkrufky: | updated log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213510/ |
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| [19:28:58] | mkrufky: | any idea how to fix this? |
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| [19:29:07] | Sharky112065: | W CoreContext util-nvctrl.cpp:62 (CheckNVOpenGLSyncToVBlank) NVCtrl: OpenGL Sync to VBlank is disabled. |
| [19:29:49] | mkrufky: | ok i'll try nvidia-settings -a "SyncToVBlank=1" |
| [19:32:51] | Sharky112065: | mkrufky: what did ... cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm3p/sub0/prealloc say after you set it? |
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| [19:34:02] | devinheitmueller: | mkrufky: you may wish to also try a different deinterlacer mode. |
| [19:34:27] | devinheitmueller: | "Video sync method can't support double framerate (refresh rate too low for 2x deint)" |
| [19:34:32] | Sharky112065: | E CoreContext mythplayer.cpp:2308 (VideoStart) Player(1): Video sync method can't support double framerate (refresh rate too low for 2x deint) |
| [19:34:48] | devinheitmueller: | Sharky112065: great minds think alike. :-) |
| [19:34:51] | Sharky112065: | jinx |
| [19:35:09] | mkrufky: | synctoblank didnt help either |
| [19:35:13] | mkrufky: | oh, ,.... |
| [19:35:41] | mkrufky: | when i did "myth@ripples:/var/log/mythtv$ echo 128 | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm3p/sub0/prealloc" |
| [19:35:41] | mkrufky: | it responded with "128" |
| [19:36:05] | mkrufky: | ie, nothing |
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| [19:37:01] | mkrufky: | aha, ok so ill change the deint |
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| [19:40:26] | Sharky112065: | also try setting alsa to 576 as well, but it is most likely a video settings issue |
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| [19:42:39] | Sharky112065: | and one last suggestion from me, maybe increase your ringbuffer size in mythsetup. |
| [19:46:27] | mkrufky: | still having the same problem — i turned off deinterlacing, i have a nice receiver i think it'll handle that in hardware |
| [19:47:15] | mkrufky: | where in mythsetup can in increase the ringbuffer size? |
| [19:47:18] | devinheitmueller: | It is highly unlikely that your receiver does deinterlacing. They almost all just pass through the video unmodified. |
| [19:47:28] | mkrufky: | ah, ok |
| [19:47:55] | mkrufky: | well, until i figure out whats up with the choppy playback, ill leave the deinterlacer set to none |
| [19:48:04] | devinheitmueller: | sure |
| [19:48:09] | Sharky112065: | I think it was under the general settings one on mythsetup |
| [19:48:21] | Sharky112065: | but dont jack it up to max |
| [19:48:22] | kormoc: | ring buffer size is purely for live tv |
| [19:48:31] | Sharky112065: | ah ok. then nvm |
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| [19:50:14] | mkrufky: | hmm, ok so then ive tried all suggestions thus far and still no change |
| [19:50:31] | mkrufky: | this all used to work before up updated the distro .... |
| [19:51:03] | mkrufky: | i updated and had this problem, and instead of trying to debug it then, i wiped my partition and installed mythbuntu (precise) fresh and still have the same issue |
| [19:51:24] | kormoc: | upgrade/downgrade video drives (Nvidia?) |
| [19:51:36] | mkrufky: | and here is the latest log after trying the above: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213574/ |
| [19:51:39] | kormoc: | playback in vlc and see if it's having similar issues? |
| [19:52:04] | mkrufky: | vlc is playing back fine |
| [19:52:18] | kormoc: | slim playback profile? |
| [19:52:54] | mkrufky: | it was originally set to slim but i changed it to normal ... i will change it back to slim again now if you say thats what i should be using for the ION 330 |
| [19:53:14] | mkrufky: | this was that asrock nettop ion330 that iamlindoro was talking about a few years ago |
| [19:53:22] | kormoc: | yeah, slim is pretty much the normal usage case |
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| [19:53:53] | devinheitmueller: | mkrufky: you captured to disk and tried playing back on another machine right? Narrowed down whether this was a capture or a playback issue? |
| [19:54:39] | kormoc: | devinheitmueller, I believe the played fine in vlc on the box would indicate it's a playback issue with myth |
| [19:55:02] | tgm4883: | I think I've got a 330 in my frontend with 12.04 installed, i'll have to check when I get home |
| [19:55:32] | devinheitmueller: | kormoc: Yeah, indeed (didn't see he did that) |
| [19:56:47] | mkrufky: | switched to VDPAU slim with deinterlacer set to none and it still has the same problem |
| [19:57:24] | mkrufky: | and i confirm that playback on a different machine is just fine, using the same exact recorxing |
| [19:57:28] | mkrufky: | *recording |
| [19:58:54] | mkrufky: | myth plays the file fine on another machine, vlc plays fine on the machine in question, mplayer pays fine on the machine in question ... only myth is having the problem :-( |
| [20:00:47] | mkrufky: | :-( it's too back the protocol isn't backwards compatible.... i would just install an older mythfrontend for now, but it wont work with my backend :-/ |
| [20:02:21] | kormoc: | mkrufky, are you using the nvidia drivers or the nv driver? |
| [20:02:52] | mkrufky: | nvidia |
| [20:03:06] | kormoc: | downgrade/upgrade? |
| [20:03:19] | mkrufky: | i'll see if there's an upgrade available |
| [20:04:48] | mkrufky: | hmmmm |
| [20:04:59] | mkrufky: | there is nvidia-current, nvidia-173 and nvidia-96 |
| [20:06:01] | mkrufky: | i guess i'll try each of them :-/ |
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| [20:07:44] | Sharky112065: | mkrufky: hope you get it figured out, im going back to bed (sick). Looks like there are ppl here to help you now. |
| [20:08:00] | mkrufky: | thanks Sharky112065 ... no luck yet, but i appreciate the help :-) |
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| [20:39:28] | mkrufky: | the other nvidia drivers dont work at all... not sure why that is... but after switching back to 'nvidia-current' its back to normal, still with the same choppy playback issue |
| [20:40:14] | mkrufky: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213674/ |
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| [22:14:12] | nordle: | Hello. Got a strange issue (probably only strange because I don't know the answer). I've just moved house, so I deleted the channels, the tv source, the dvb cards. Then started again, adding the cards and doing a channel search. MythTV finds 142 new "conflicting channels". I've tried deleting again, but same issue. How can I have conflicting channels on a new scan? |
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| [22:23:30] | tlhiv_laptop: | nordle: i had issues with some music doing similar things, and i simply deleted the entries in the mysql database using phpmyadmin |
| [22:24:16] | mkrufky: | im still looking for help debugging my choppy playback issue on my fresh install mythfrontend....... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213816/ |
| [22:25:33] | mkrufky: | when i enable the on-screen "playback data" it always shows the 8mb audio buffer as 0% or 1% full ... is that normal? |
| [22:25:48] | mkrufky: | er, my bad, i meant 0% or 1% available |
| [22:25:52] | tgm4883: | mkrufky, I'll head home in the next 30 minutes, takes about 20 minutes to get home but I'll check what I got when I get there |
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| [22:25:59] | mkrufky: | thanks tgm4883 |
| [22:28:56] | nordle: | tlhiv_laptop: ok, I'll have a poke around (having backed up the db first :) ). One other theory appears to be, the aerial is picking up from two transmitters. This is _possible_, but would surprise me, as its a small aerial (but does have a massive booster attached). |
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