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| [08:36:59] | stuartm: | just installed a new distro and mute/0% volume no longer mute the audio, it's very quiet but still there |
| [08:37:10] | stuartm: | any ideas? |
| [08:37:18] | stuartm: | pulseaudio isn't installed |
| [08:37:28] | wagnerrp: | its using log scaling |
| [08:37:38] | wagnerrp: | and 0 is set to -40dB or something |
| [08:37:48] | stuartm: | software volume is also disabled |
| [08:37:58] | wagnerrp: | (unfounded guess) |
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| [08:43:24] | stuartm: | iirc we're supposed to disable audio output entirely when muted to prevent this happening, wondering if that's changed |
| [08:45:43] | stuartm: | we're not muting the mixer anymore :/ |
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| [20:09:23] | Beirdo: | yay for Tampa Bay! |
| [20:09:39] | Beirdo: | James Shields pitched a 2-hit complete game shutout. |
| [20:09:48] | Beirdo: | Thank you, I'll take the 68 points! |
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| [20:16:35] | wizbit: | Found 72 new conflicting DVB channels |
| [20:16:40] | wizbit: | something is seriously wrong here.. |
| [20:16:53] | wizbit: | there will be no tv for me until i fix it :-S |
| [20:19:41] | neufeld_AFK is now known as neufeld | |
| [20:25:22] | natanoj: | i have a problem which i'm having trouble pinning down to exactly what is wrong... i have a Hauppauge HVR-1300 card with MPEG encoder which have worked fine with mythtv 0.24, but now after upgrading to 0.25 i can't get anything to work anymore. I get this in the log output: http://pastebin.com/4D6DwfJ1 |
| [20:27:11] | wagnerrp: | is this a combo frontend/backend? or dedicated frontend/ |
| [20:27:16] | natanoj: | there seems to be some problem with the v4l2 setup of the card? previously i could just dd or cat the video dev and get a working mpeg, but now when i do that the audio is just loud noise... could there be a problem with the card? (we had a power outage when i was in the middle of my upgrade so the system might be a bit in a shaky state, but i think i have got stuff working) |
| [20:27:27] | natanoj: | it is a pure backend (headless server) |
| [20:27:37] | natanoj: | i get that error as soon as i start the backend |
| [20:27:49] | wagnerrp: | try unmounting NFS, and having the frontend hit the backend, rather than the storage directly |
| [20:28:05] | wagnerrp: | wait... you get that error when you start the backend? |
| [20:28:10] | wagnerrp: | the frontend cannot run without the backend |
| [20:28:53] | wagnerrp: | ignore me.... im looking at the wrong pastebin |
| [20:29:39] | natanoj: | yes, and i'm not using nfs for my frontends anymore anyway... |
| [20:29:56] | wagnerrp: | any chance your digital side is kicking in and running EIT? |
| [20:30:57] | natanoj: | don't know, i'm honestly not exactly sure what EIT is... |
| [20:31:39] | natanoj: | i gave up using the DVB part of the card long ago, now i just use the composite input and let my separate DVB box handle the reception |
| [20:33:22] | natanoj: | but i can watch the picture fine, have tried xawtv on X forwarding on the "analog" video dev as well and it works (not sure about the audio there though). and video on the mpeg dev works using dd but the audio is just loud noise... should i continue looking at mythtv or take a closer look at the card instead? |
| [20:39:27] | natanoj: | ok might be something with the card.. tried grabbing some audio and frames with xawtv and it is just noise |
| [20:39:53] | Beirdo: | wow, cut it pretty close today... minidisc holds 80min. I recorded 78m48s |
| [20:42:35] | wagnerrp: | natanoj: you have this set up as an MPEG encoder card, not a V4L2 card, correct |
| [20:42:36] | wagnerrp: | ?? |
| [20:42:53] | wagnerrp: | ... fat fingered that one twice |
| [20:43:29] | natanoj: | wagnerrp: yes, just tried the v4l2 device now but it seems to be the same result for the sound, just noise... and mythtv cannot properly control it |
| [20:44:59] | Beirdo: | ahhh, digital transfer from minidisc -> USB via SPDIF (coax) |
| [20:45:50] | Beirdo: | and I REALLY need to get this hooked to the sound board. mics in the sound booth really don't cut it |
| [20:47:15] | Beirdo: | I think I had the violin a bit too hot. crap. |
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| [20:52:56] | natanoj: | i think the card might be bad :( but then it is kind of strange that i get errors on setting input and norm from mythtv (which i can do just fine using v4lctl) |
| [20:54:03] | wagnerrp: | an... electric violin? |
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| [20:54:24] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:54:28] | Beirdo: | condenser mic |
| [20:54:51] | Beirdo: | I had it a bit too hot in the mix, at least from the live recording I made :) |
| [20:55:02] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if a bow would even work properly with electric pickups |
| [20:55:16] | Beirdo: | it would be the strings that would be the limiting factor |
| [20:55:28] | Beirdo: | not being metal, hard to pick up a magnetic field change |
| [20:55:53] | Beirdo: | you'd have to do acoustic micing like on a acoustic/electric (or a piezo) |
| [20:56:59] | Beirdo: | but the praise leader actually asked if I could send her a copy of the live recording, so I'm transferring it to the computer so I can do so. |
| [20:57:30] | Beirdo: | haha, I could hear the minidisc mechanism ticking away in a quiet period |
| [20:57:48] | Beirdo: | not surprising figuring the mics are an inch from the recorder |
| [20:59:29] | Beirdo: | I hope when we build the new church we can get some condensers hung from the ceiling over the congregation |
| [21:00:01] | Beirdo: | and that we get the drums and piano miced too |
| [21:00:03] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:00:08] | Beirdo: | I don't ask much |
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| [21:05:45] | wagnerrp: | sphery: prime user on 0.24... |
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| [21:24:46] | wizbit: | is there a way to make mythtv scan for channels on a selected dvb transmitter? |
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| [21:29:03] | n1md4: | Hi. Sorry to ask, but can someone hold my hand through IR testing? I've a MythTV is installed, and fully working. The capture card is a Nova-T 500 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-T-500 with Snowboard remote. |
| [21:32:17] | n1md4: | cat /proc/bus/input/devices ends with Name="IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver"; along with a bunch of other settings (I'm unsure what's relevant). |
| [21:35:19] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ah, that's the problem |
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| [21:41:25] | n1md4: | How might I check which version of dib0700 firmware I'm using, I've both 1.10 and 1.20 present on my system. |
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| [21:57:01] | devinheitmueller: | Seriously? The user with crummy MPEG2 recording waits until fifteen paragraphs in on the 4th email to indicate that he's running a hypervisor? |
| [21:57:07] | ** devinheitmueller slams head into wall. ** | |
| [21:57:13] | wagnerrp: | heheheh |
| [21:57:15] | wagnerrp: | you seem angry |
| [21:57:22] | devinheitmueller: | OH REALLY? YOU THINK!? |
| [21:57:25] | devinheitmueller: | Grrr..... |
| [21:57:39] | Seeker`: | devinheitmueller: that quickly?! |
| [21:58:09] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, I'll tell you why "ATSC is unwatchable." Because you've got a dumb setup. |
| [21:58:11] | devinheitmueller: | Grrr..... |
| [21:58:36] | ** Seeker` goes to find the tranquiliser gun ** | |
| [21:59:00] | ** devinheitmueller goes back to debugging OSX kernel memory corruption bugs.... ** | |
| [21:59:13] | wagnerrp: | how is he going to use the livecd? |
| [21:59:21] | wagnerrp: | that would require him rebooting his system |
| [21:59:30] | wagnerrp: | and killing all those other single-application virtual machines he has running |
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| [22:01:06] | devinheitmueller: | He apparently booted an Ubuntu 8.04 CD and didn't see the issue. |
| [22:01:16] | devinheitmueller: | s/CD/Live CD/ |
| [22:01:59] | wagnerrp: | well... you know my feelings on that subject |
| [22:02:25] | devinheitmueller: | Try a three or four year old distro to see if it still works? |
| [22:02:43] | wagnerrp: | no, virtualization/hypervisors |
| [22:02:49] | devinheitmueller: | :-) |
| [22:03:25] | wagnerrp: | of course my feelings are irrelevant, as im just a stupid troll who needs to shut up every time that topic comes up |
| [22:03:46] | devinheitmueller: | Step #1: don't use hypervisors. |
| [22:04:01] | devinheitmueller: | Step #2: if you choose to disregard Rule #1, don't come bitching to me when it doesn't work. |
| [22:04:01] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 ** | |
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| [22:04:21] | wagnerrp: | i need to stop telling people they're using virtualization for reasons that are a side effect, rather than an advantage, of virtualization |
| [22:04:50] | wagnerrp: | i need to stop assuming people aren't running commercial grade, clustered HA systems at their homes |
| [22:04:54] | lucas^: | I just recorded an NFL game for my brother over in Afghanistan |
| [22:05:04] | lucas^: | it was off CBS, so I'm assuming 1080p |
| [22:05:14] | wagnerrp: | no, there is no broadcast 1080p in the US |
| [22:05:16] | devinheitmueller: | CBS is never in 1080p |
| [22:05:22] | devinheitmueller: | Probably 1080i. |
| [22:05:27] | lucas^: | well, it's 22 GB in any case |
| [22:05:39] | wagnerrp: | CBS and NBC are almost always 1080i, FOX and ABC are almost always 720p |
| [22:05:44] | lucas^: | his internet is beyond terrible |
| [22:06:00] | wagnerrp: | figure 6–7GB/hr on average |
| [22:06:00] | lucas^: | what's the bare minimum resolution I could go and have this still be watchable |
| [22:06:15] | wagnerrp: | can you give him a "highlights" version? |
| [22:06:21] | devinheitmueller: | You could have just recorded the SD feed. Would have been much smaller. |
| [22:06:31] | lucas^: | I stripped out the commercials and the halftime show and all that nonsense |
| [22:06:35] | wagnerrp: | cut out all but the ~20 minutes or so of actual gameplay? |
| [22:06:43] | lucas^: | I don't follow football and so I can't tell what exactly is the good stuff |
| [22:06:44] | devinheitmueller: | Also, in most cases it's not about the resolution but rather the bitrate. |
| [22:06:46] | wagnerrp: | should get you down under 2hrs |
| [22:06:52] | wagnerrp: | erm... 2GB |
| [22:07:11] | lucas^: | he tells me he downloads 300MB episodes of Louie / Breaking Bad overnight |
| [22:07:23] | lucas^: | and that was at his old base, he needs to pay for internet at Bagram |
| [22:07:50] | wagnerrp: | mmm... nothing like video piracy over milnet satellite uplinks... |
| [22:08:06] | lucas^: | I'm just going to hope that this falls under fair-use |
| [22:08:46] | devinheitmueller: | Was going to say, that uplink is probably costing more than the hubble. Your tax dollars at work :-) |
| [22:08:54] | wagnerrp: | what you're doing... not really, but no one is going to care |
| [22:09:11] | wagnerrp: | those FX/AMC shows? not in the slightest |
| [22:09:24] | [R]: | didnt you ever see that episode of family guy |
| [22:09:33] | [R]: | where peter tried taping nfl and the fbi came and shot the vcr? |
| [22:10:12] | lucas^: | I guess in 16:9 presentation it'd be 427x240 |
| [22:10:33] | lucas^: | with a x264 crf of 25, that ought to do it |
| [22:11:26] | wagnerrp: | with those parameters, and cutting out all the garbage where they're doing replays, staring at people on the sidelines, and generally anything other than actual gameplay |
| [22:11:39] | wagnerrp: | you're probably down in the <50MB range, and it will look like garbage |
| [22:11:47] | lucas^: | I just cut the commercials, but I guess I could cut more out |
| [22:11:57] | lucas^: | there's still like 2 hrs of content |
| [22:12:02] | lucas^: | I was blown away by that |
| [22:12:15] | lucas^: | given how much waiting around you do when watching an actual game |
| [22:12:16] | wagnerrp: | if they're not running around, or at least lined up facing each other, delete it |
| [22:12:16] | [R]: | you were blown away by how much of a waste of tiem sports are? |
| [22:12:17] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:12:45] | wagnerrp: | seriously... four quarters, 15 minutes each, there's probably less than 15 minutes total of actual game time |
| [22:12:58] | wagnerrp: | and half of that is in the last quarter |
| [22:13:28] | lucas^: | absolute minimum I guess would be 1:30 |
| [22:13:44] | lucas^: | cut about 10 seconds before the gameclock actually starts |
| [22:14:06] | wagnerrp: | generally, the game clock does not stop after each play |
| [22:14:10] | lucas^: | and then immediately cut on an incomplete pass / etc. |
| [22:14:24] | wagnerrp: | it just keeps going, and they have a whole lot of time to set up before they get a penalty |
| [22:14:26] | lucas^: | why couldn't my brother just watch hockey |
| [22:14:42] | lucas^: | 15 minutes of solid coverage, maybe three commercial breaks each period |
| [22:14:50] | lucas^: | or wait, was it 20 |
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