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| [02:15:26] | jklaus: | hey guys |
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| [02:16:08] | jklaus: | I'm trying to stream a playlist from mythweb but it is requiring me to re-login between every song. It does this in both VLC and Windows Media Player |
| [02:16:10] | jklaus: | any thoughts? |
| [02:16:49] | wagnerrp: | turn off digest authentication |
| [02:18:48] | jklaus: | wagnerrp do both players have that option? |
| [02:19:12] | wagnerrp: | as in... on your apache, turn off digest authentication so the players dont have to keep passing a password in |
| [02:19:41] | jklaus: | ahh is that an option in mythweb settings? |
| [02:20:14] | wagnerrp: | well it's not default behavior in mythweb (although it is recommended), so you had to have set it up in the first place |
| [02:20:48] | jklaus: | I don't recall having changed anything like that. Though I am running MythBuntu so.. |
| [02:21:31] | wagnerrp: | note, mythweb without at least digest authentication should never be exposed to the internet |
| [02:22:12] | jklaus: | well I'll be using this to pull music over the internet |
| [02:22:13] | jklaus: | :-\ |
| [02:22:24] | jklaus: | anyway to get around that repeating login issue? |
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| [02:22:34] | wagnerrp: | find a player that will store the login |
| [02:23:11] | jklaus: | windows media has a checkbox to save information but it doesn't seem to be doing so |
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| [02:48:14] | jklaus: | wagnerrp have you ever applied a patch to VLC? |
| [02:49:51] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [02:50:40] | jklaus: | http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&a . . . &start=0 |
| [02:50:54] | jklaus: | theres a link to that problem i was talking about... just don't know how to implement it |
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| [03:08:29] | jklaus: | wagnerrp I found a solution.. though I don't believe it to be incredibly eligent |
| [03:09:22] | jklaus: | I'm going to write a little c# to add (username:password) into the URLs for each song in the playlist |
| [03:13:16] | wagnerrp: | if you're doing that, why not just add it straight into the php? |
| [03:13:29] | wagnerrp: | either way, you're breaking security by having the password hard coded |
| [03:13:55] | jklaus: | having it straight in the php? |
| [03:14:16] | jklaus: | yeah I know.. but its the only thing I can do to make it work right now |
| [03:17:33] | jklaus: | at the very least for now I can just use a text find and replace in notepad++ |
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| [06:19:46] | monkeypet69: | i am trying to find osx binaries of mythtv 0.26 |
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| [06:38:52] | fugg: | how to trigger myth to pull DVB-EPG (on-air) data now ? |
| [06:41:01] | dekarl: | fugg, enable it in the video source "use on air guide" or select guide source "EIT only" |
| [06:41:27] | dekarl: | then verify that the default "use this card for active eit scan" is still enabled |
| [06:41:48] | dekarl: | and verify that the channel has gotten the "use on air guide" flag set by the channel scanner. |
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| [06:42:23] | dekarl: | note that you can only have one guide source per channel. either xmltv / SD or EIT |
| [06:43:19] | fugg: | dekarl, i was used to use this for ages but seems 0.25 broke somehow. i have a chan which was unchecked on epg-data, the web-interface won't update it and doing so in the backend's setup won't fill data too. ( on another install i have data) |
| [06:44:55] | dekarl: | the "other install" is mythtv 0.25, too? And its the same channel (on from the same source)? |
| [06:45:28] | dekarl: | if just one channel is missing the guide i'd check that channels "use on air guide" first |
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| [06:47:27] | fugg: | dekarl, yes. strange thing is, the other install runs on x86_64 and has a lot of issues since 0.25 while this new install (same versions, same dish/diseq/whatever) runs very smooth but that epg. |
| [06:49:45] | dekarl: | you should always run 64 bit if the hardware is capable. having three times the registers (only on x86, other 32bit archs usualy have proper register sets) does wonders to tight inner loops in codecs :-) |
| [06:50:43] | dekarl: | if it is a whole mux where all channels don't get EIT it could be that the ONID/TSID of the multiplex is missing in the database |
| [06:51:18] | dekarl: | got to leave for work, ttyl |
| [06:51:39] | fugg: | dekarl, later |
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| [07:51:28] | fugg: | recommendations for the max. number of DVB-S2 cards in one box ? |
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| [07:55:47] | cc999: | hi |
| [07:56:02] | cc999: | anyone know if it is possible to make all front ends play the same thing? |
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| [07:57:09] | fugg: | cc999, if you have enought bandwith |
| [07:57:47] | cc999: | I have 1gb network |
| [07:58:05] | cc999: | got a URL on how to? |
| [07:58:40] | fugg: | cc999, sounds like you would select all frontends at once ? |
| [07:59:11] | cc999: | As an example I am in the bedroom, playing a show, I want to pause, go to kitchen and continue |
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| [07:59:53] | fugg: | nah, that's a complete other story |
| [08:01:13] | cc999: | well if they all play the same thing at the same time, then it would still work that way |
| [08:02:00] | fugg: | not exactly, each frontend has it's own stream |
| [08:02:40] | fugg: | you may press r then space ( record + mark position ) then look from position. |
| [08:02:41] | cc999: | Well I can always do what I am now, but it is SD video, I have a single box and I do modulation on channel 102 |
| [08:03:09] | cc999: | then I have IR eyes throughout the house |
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| [08:03:21] | cc999: | Was just hoping to have HD |
| [08:03:42] | fugg: | cc999, what's your location ? |
| [08:03:48] | cc999: | Las Vegas |
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| [08:04:13] | fugg: | cc999, and there is no HDTV or just lacking h/w ? |
| [08:04:48] | cc999: | When you modulate you lose HD, there is no HD modulators. They only take composite video |
| [08:05:29] | cc999: | I could put in a front end in each room, and connect via hdmi, but then I need to sync playback |
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| [08:06:42] | fugg: | cc999, anything you look is in live-tv group, you can replay that but may need a seek if you move to another frontend |
| [08:07:34] | cc999: | Well I also watch iso movies, and I use vlc for playback. I feel like I am making it harder :) |
| [08:08:37] | fugg: | get some mpg/aci out of that iso's and use the video-part of myth :P |
| [08:08:43] | fugg: | *avi |
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| [08:09:57] | cc999: | Ok so the answer is "it is non-trivial" to make multiple front ends play synchronous content |
| [08:10:50] | fugg: | thing is, each frontend has it's own stream/timing so either use marked positions or seek forward after joining |
| [08:11:34] | fugg: | also, myth has some automatic options to trancode inserted media. |
| [08:11:42] | cc999: | I just read vlc supports something called "Multicat" I guess I need to look into that. |
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| [08:13:15] | cc999: | http://ivoire.dinauz.org/blog/index.php?post/2010/09/02/Multicat |
| [08:14:59] | cc999: | I found another guy with my exact problem! http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /274527.html |
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| [09:16:48] | ManGEE2: | Is there anyone here who is proficient with the Services API? |
| [09:17:50] | fugg: | ManGEE2, i guss wagnerrp is but you may wait a few hours b/c he is usually a bit later present. |
| [09:18:20] | ManGEE2: | no worries. Thanks :) |
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| [10:09:09] | bas-t: | The DefaultStartOffset and DefaultEndOffset options seem to have disapeared from settings in master branch. Is it possible to re-activate this somehow? |
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| [11:43:01] | bas-t: | I think the answer to my earlier question is in commit 71c65ba676. I'll have to explore this as I don't see how exactly I should proceed to get the desired result. |
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| [12:52:51] | fugg: | what to do with this ( slave-backend ) --> E ProcessRequest mythsocket.cpp:304 (writeStringList) MythSocket(8bd41c0:32): writeStringList: Error, invalid string list. |
| [12:55:54] | sphery: | bas-t: no, because there's no need to... |
| [12:56:13] | sphery: | bas-t: they were simply used to specify the start early/end late for new recording rules you create |
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| [12:57:50] | sphery: | bas-t: now you just edit the Default recording rule template to contain the values you want, and all new rules will be created with those values (and you can edit any other value--such as recording group/profile/storage group/...--as desired, too), and you can create new templates that can be applied (so have one for Movies that sets find one/Movies rec group/Movies SG/low priority/..., and another for Default, and another for Kids shows ... |
| [12:57:56] | sphery: | ... and ...) |
| [12:58:37] | bas-t: | sphery: Thanks, I am compiling master right now. Should I get lost somehow, I'll report back. |
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| [13:30:52] | bas-t: | sphery: Come to think of it, I never thought of the DefaultStartOffset thingy as a template in the first place, so I just have to adapt to the idea. |
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| [15:03:54] | bas-t: | I managed to alter the default template. It works fine, from the looks of it. However, mythweb does not follow the rules in the template. Can anyone confirm this behaviour of mythweb? If so, is there a known workaround or known bug involved? |
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| [15:35:26] | fugg: | ok, i did a complete new master/slave/slave setup. according to the respective setups, all is fine, slaves was able to see defaults like channels eight after joining the master/DB and no trouble to setup but ... |
| [15:35:57] | fugg: | if i try to view something from a slave, i get something like this : Metadata Lookup Errored: "mieten, kaufen, wohnen" recorded from channel 1009 at 2012-09–07T17:31:37 (Failed with exit status 128) |
| [15:36:20] | fugg: | where the frontend remains black and hangs forever. |
| [15:39:12] | bas-t: | fugg: which branch? If master, youcould shut off metadata lookup alltogether in the default template, if fixes/0.25 it is clearly in the setup options of your frontend. |
| [15:44:21] | fugg: | bas-t, 0.25.2 but should it not work anyway (without metadata ) ? |
| [15:45:44] | fugg: | bas-t, thing is, i had a running setup on other machines with same versions but looks like it has more bugs on x86_64 so i switched to x86 boxes. |
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| [15:46:35] | bas-t: | fugg: yeah, it should, but do you need it? Btw, are you using packages, or do you compile yourself? What distro are you on? |
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| [15:48:50] | bas-t: | fugg: Are you by any chance using an old database? |
| [15:49:53] | fugg: | bas-t, brand-new setup, had an issue with one chan which would not fetch epg-data. |
| [15:50:46] | bas-t: | fugg: Are you by any chance using an old database? |
| [15:51:17] | bas-t: | One problem at a time please |
| [15:51:58] | fugg: | database -> brand new , only one (solved) issue on setup. |
| [15:52:28] | fugg: | bas-t, furthermore i use myth since the stoneage and only 0.25 makes such noise. |
| [15:53:16] | bas-t: | why use it then? |
| [15:53:39] | fugg: | dependencies (debian) |
| [15:53:59] | fugg: | ... and the hope for improvement |
| [15:55:14] | wagnerrp: | fugg: that error is only supplementary data mythtv attempts to pull from the configured metadata sites (themoviedb.org and thetvdb.com) |
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| [15:55:36] | bas-t: | no, really, I'm on Squeeze, no problem compiling 0.24, 0.25 or master here. Using oppservers repo? |
| [15:55:36] | wagnerrp: | if the lookup fails, you're still left with the initial data provided by your EPG service, or EIT |
| [15:55:45] | fugg: | wagnerrp, but my only/last hint. |
| [15:56:14] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [15:57:05] | wagnerrp: | normally the task would exit successfully, and just return no results |
| [15:57:21] | wagnerrp: | since it returns with 128, that means the grabber script itself is failing |
| [15:57:25] | wagnerrp: | likely due to missing dependencies |
| [15:57:34] | fugg: | i mean, there is nothing else in the log which may make more sense. |
| [15:58:02] | wagnerrp: | run '/usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Television/ttvdb.py -t' on the command line |
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| [15:58:35] | fugg: | all servers or just master ? |
| [15:58:54] | wagnerrp: | anything that might be running a jobqueue |
| [15:59:16] | wagnerrp: | as well as any frontend that might be using the video library |
| [15:59:40] | wagnerrp: | it should warn you "im missing blahblah python module" |
| [15:59:45] | fugg: | not found on slave 2, checking others ... |
| [16:00:10] | wagnerrp: | what prefix did you install to? |
| [16:00:19] | wagnerrp: | perhaps /usr/local/share/mythtv/metadata/Television/ttvdb.py ? |
| [16:00:37] | fugg: | started a find from / |
| [16:00:43] | wagnerrp: | when you ran configure, did it warn that the python bindings would not be installed? |
| [16:01:17] | fugg: | nope, debian has a crapload of deps and i have anything ;) |
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| [16:04:09] | fugg: | however i'm fine with epg and don't need more details from the web but working channels. in the meantime i double-checked wiring, all is fine ( 18.05V from coax to switch @ standby ). |
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| [16:05:44] | fugg: | ttvdb.py doesn't exist on any box, maybe debian has a separate package. will try ro scan channels from a slave to see if the transport is ok. |
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| [16:06:02] | wagnerrp: | i thought you said you compiled and installed it manually |
| [16:06:13] | fugg: | wasn't me |
| [16:06:28] | wagnerrp: | oh, misread something further up |
| [16:06:28] | fugg: | you thought also i'm on ubuntu ;) |
| [16:07:38] | wagnerrp: | well bas-t had asked if you were compiling |
| [16:08:33] | fugg: | weird, "pgrep myth" gives me 2 PID's on slave2 but starting setup don't ask to stop backend before continue......seems to be a locking problem. |
| [16:11:58] | bas-t: | seems to be a packaging problem to me |
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| [16:12:49] | fugg: | bas-t, you mean the *.deb's ? |
| [16:14:17] | bas-t: | yeah, that is the myth debs. All dependencie deb's are fine here. You are not compiling are you? |
| [16:14:52] | bas-t: | if so, you should! |
| [16:15:55] | fugg: | bas-t, i'm used to compile serious things but doubt it will make a difference on myth. |
| [16:16:17] | bas-t: | It makes a huge difference... |
| [16:16:44] | fugg: | where ? |
| [16:16:58] | wagnerrp: | it does? |
| [16:17:15] | fugg: | ok, created a new input connection on slave2, card 4 and started a full-scan , average strenght 94% SNR 82% so not hardware-related. |
| [16:18:30] | bas-t: | wagnerrp: maybe not on ubuntu... |
| [16:18:43] | wagnerrp: | it makes a difference anywhere? |
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| [16:19:57] | bas-t: | Earlier I ran into strange difficulties like fuggs problem. Not anymore while compiling myself |
| [16:20:24] | fugg: | bas-t, when i compile from scratch, i have a reason e.g. using LDAP with openssl instead gnushit or while patching kernels. |
| [16:21:25] | bas-t: | That's ok, I'm just sharing my experience with it... |
| [16:22:01] | wagnerrp: | fair enough, i cant argue with that |
| [16:22:11] | wagnerrp: | i compile just about everything on all my systems out of the same principle |
| [16:23:37] | bas-t: | fugg: are you making any progress? |
| [16:23:39] | tgm4883: | I don't see how that would be a packaging problem. Perhaps an issue with the way things were started but packaging simply puts the stuff in the rigth places |
| [16:24:13] | wagnerrp: | because apparently the packages didnt put anything anywhere |
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| [16:25:10] | bas-t: | have you ever had a look into mythbuntu's packaging system? It's loaded with patches for one thing.. |
| [16:25:22] | tgm4883: | bas-t, um.... |
| [16:25:23] | wagnerrp: | im pressure sure he has |
| [16:25:26] | tgm4883: | yes I have |
| [16:25:28] | wagnerrp: | *pretty sure |
| [16:25:42] | tgm4883: | there aren't that many patches |
| [16:26:04] | fugg: | bas-t, scan worked fine but i found something strange which i never edited/saw before. on (at least) slave 2 the input-group 1 points to "DVB_/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0" which was supposed to be just "Generic". |
| [16:26:09] | tgm4883: | Not entirely sure what you mean by loaded though |
| [16:26:57] | bas-t: | ok, I use big words every now and then, sorry for that |
| [16:27:51] | tgm4883: | 4 patches |
| [16:28:31] | wagnerrp: | limited patches, but it IS loaded with a bunch of supplementary stuff |
| [16:28:51] | tgm4883: | like startup scripts? |
| [16:28:51] | wagnerrp: | MCC and all the application wrappers |
| [16:29:02] | tgm4883: | MCC isn't part of the mythtv packaging. |
| [16:29:07] | wagnerrp: | aside from the typical startup scripts most other distros would provide |
| [16:29:10] | tgm4883: | the wrappers yes, so 2 of those |
| [16:29:19] | wagnerrp: | just frontend and setup? |
| [16:29:25] | tgm4883: | yep |
| [16:29:53] | wagnerrp: | im just saying you guys go well beyond simply packaging mythtv up |
| [16:30:00] | bas-t: | Gentlemen! I did start you off now didn't I? |
| [16:30:19] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I'd say most of our work is MCC type stuff |
| [16:30:31] | bas-t: | where does that leave fugg? |
| [16:30:31] | tgm4883: | although yes, we do packaging work as well |
| [16:30:44] | wagnerrp: | ah, ive never used mythbuntu, so i really dont know how you split all that stuff up |
| [16:31:33] | bas-t: | fugg: just be patient, this storm will die |
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| [16:33:49] | tgm4883: | bas-t, I don't even know the issue |
| [16:33:58] | tgm4883: | I just jumped in to defend our packaging |
| [16:34:09] | fugg: | ok, moving input-group back to generic (all slaves) changed nothing, mythfilldatabase also, will let em'reboot and fix DB then . |
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| [16:35:59] | bas-t: | tgm4883: I'm really sorry if I offended you, please accept my apology. Meanwhile, I like to compile myself, it gets me less troubles. |
| [16:36:10] | ** tgm4883 isn't offended ** | |
| [16:36:39] | bas-t: | thats a good thing |
| [16:37:26] | wagnerrp: | i compile myself just because it means i dont have to worry about dynamic linker errors |
| [16:37:41] | wagnerrp: | its always properly linked against the version i have on hand |
| [16:37:56] | bas-t: | that's why I get less troubles |
| [16:38:20] | wagnerrp: | but thats not really anything to do with what fugg is having problems with |
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| [16:52:36] | bas-t: | wagnerrp: btw, did any of you find the time to look into #7486? It is a good one, if your provider uses nit-other |
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| [16:53:36] | wagnerrp: | i dont know anything about eit |
| [16:57:05] | bas-t: | who does? |
| [16:57:26] | wagnerrp: | preferably someone not in north america |
| [17:01:31] | bas-t: | fugg: in my setup I always have both the 'generic' as well as the *frontend0 entries for any given (DVB) adapter |
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| [17:03:06] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stoffel | |
| [17:03:57] | bas-t: | If that is mixed up, you probably are best off by deleting all your adapters and set them up again. |
| [17:10:28] | bas-t: | I'm a first time user of IRC. What doe this mean? |
| [17:10:32] | bas-t: | ChanServ gives voice to stoffel |
| [17:10:47] | wagnerrp: | stoffel has been voiced |
| [17:11:06] | wagnerrp: | if someone issues a channel-wide mute, voices can still speak |
| [17:12:28] | bas-t: | I don't understand, we can still chat, so what's a channel-wide mute |
| [17:12:46] | tgm4883: | bas-t, nothing is muted |
| [17:12:56] | tgm4883: | but if it did get muted, people with voice can still chat |
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| [17:13:16] | fugg: | voicecheck |
| [17:13:20] | fugg: | :) |
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| [17:15:46] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o wagnerrp | |
| [17:15:52] | wagnerrp: | bas-t: still here? |
| [17:17:17] | wagnerrp: | guess not actively... |
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| [17:36:59] | bas-t: | i'm back |
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| [17:38:07] | dekarl: | bas-t #7486 had a veto by stuartm in http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7486#comment:10 but there's been some fixes around that area of the scanner since then. So mostly the patch needs testing by people who need it and by some who don't need it (so it doesn't break other stuff). |
| [17:38:07] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7486 ** | |
| [17:38:07] | dekarl: | It might be a good idea to provide a PPA with 0.26-fixes + the patch once the release is out, then call for testing. (can be done quite easily using the scripts from packaging/deb) |
| [17:39:08] | bas-t: | I can't use ppa, I'm on debian |
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| [17:39:42] | dekarl: | oh |
| [17:40:22] | dekarl: | I'm not sure how far the "make packaging/deb work on debian and get it in" project is |
| [17:40:31] | bas-t: | but I do need the patch |
| [17:41:08] | bas-t: | wher is that project? |
| [17:41:32] | dekarl: | I take it its a shared system and simply moving to mythbuntu is not an option. |
| [17:42:10] | tgm4883: | we share packaging |
| [17:42:36] | tgm4883: | You could probably use the PPA on debian, although I haven't tried |
| [17:43:10] | bas-t: | I said I don't like packaging |
| [17:43:29] | tgm4883: | so build with the patches added? |
| [17:44:10] | bas-t: | If that helps you to get the patch I want pulled in, yes |
| [17:44:21] | dekarl: | bas-t its about someone taking care of the patch. providing ready made packages for *others* is making it easier to find testers. Other then that just use the packaging scripts to build a known working installation including patches |
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| [17:45:10] | bas-t: | fair enough. can I still help in any way? |
| [17:45:49] | dekarl: | be that someone :D |
| [17:46:49] | bas-t: | I lack the coding skills, I found this a working patch by trail and error |
| [17:47:39] | tgm4883: | what coding skills are necessary? you have a patch right? apply it, compile it, and put it somewhere for people to test with |
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| [17:48:06] | tgm4883: | the suggestion of a PPA was just to make it easier to get more testers |
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| [17:49:06] | bas-t: | OK, will a package made with checkinstall do, providing a list of dependencies? |
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| [17:49:30] | dekarl: | I reread the ticket, dani elk22 asked for a different implementation. that can only be provided by someone with coding skills... maybe the reference was tpwards that |
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| [17:49:51] | tgm4883: | dekarl, you've done more than I. I've not read the ticket |
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| [18:06:29] | bas-t: | Last move from danielk was to give it back to stuarta, milestone changed from 0.25 to 0.26 |
| [18:07:09] | bas-t: | I am not personally interested in pulling the patch in, I already have it |
| [18:09:09] | bas-t: | It's just that whatever solution you guys go for, there are many providers using nit-other, so on behalf of others: make it work please. |
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| [18:19:08] | bas-t: | Should it be that danielk and maybe others are willing to give this one a testdrive, it is as easy as this: |
| [18:19:16] | bas-t: | git remote add -f bas-t git://github.com/bas-t/mythtv.git |
| [18:19:26] | bas-t: | git cherry-pick 4d3ff242d9 |
| [18:20:11] | bas-t: | With that , you could use a ppa to get a vast number of testers |
| [18:20:59] | bas-t: | This goes for fixes/0.25 as well as master |
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| [18:33:11] | fugg: | i have somehow the impression this fu** database is messed up again :( |
| [18:33:47] | fugg: | E TVRecEvent channelbase.cpp:222 (IsTunable) ChannelBase(3): IsTunable(DVBInput,5) Failed to find channel in DB on input '3' |
| [18:35:15] | bas-t: | Is your provider using nit-other too? |
| [18:37:18] | bas-t: | ignore that |
| [18:37:59] | bas-t: | Are you on Squeeze? |
| [18:47:17] | fugg: | bas-t, do you mean me ? |
| [18:48:49] | bas-t: | yes |
| [18:50:01] | fugg: | nah, this is debian sid on kernel 3.5.3 |
| [18:52:49] | bas-t: | That means I cannot help you, I'm on Squeeze, also with kernel 3.5.3. |
| [18:54:17] | fugg: | bas-t, regarding to the logs, there is not that much difference ;-) |
| [18:55:36] | bas-t: | in the deps there should be |
| [18:56:08] | bas-t: | library versions and so on |
| [18:57:52] | bas-t: | I ask you, why would you use a testing version of a distro to build a htpc cluster? |
| [18:58:32] | bas-t: | Isn't that asking for trouble? |
| [19:01:24] | bas-t: | Well 'testing' is wheezy, you are on unstable |
| [19:02:25] | bas-t: | the word says it all |
| [19:04:16] | bas-t: | Maybe today it works, maybe tomorrow not |
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| [19:06:53] | fugg: | bas-t, you are completely wrong in that sense, the "unstable" is not meant for packages at all. it's only dependencies ( and rgose only sometimes) because something may break if e.g. a common library changes and not all packages get it on the same time. |
| [19:07:48] | fugg: | after all, debian sid is more stable than any *ntu release, where rgey stamp stable on alpha. |
| [19:08:09] | tgm4883: | fugg, aren't packages uploaded directly to sid without testing? |
| [19:08:50] | fugg: | tgm4883, that's experimental which has not even a release-name. |
| [19:09:48] | tgm4883: | "Unstable is where packages go after they've been uploaded by the maintainer, and cleared for release by the FTP master. If you use an unstable package, the only thing you can say with any certainty is that it compiled on the developer's system. It may contain horrible bugs." |
| [19:10:02] | fugg: | however SOLVED 99% where the freakin' mythconverg was guilty again. |
| [19:11:10] | bas-t: | OK words, words, let's not fight about that, the main goal was building a 'stable' htpc cluster, wasn't it? |
| [19:11:22] | fugg: | tgm4883, so tell me how could canonical take the sid-repo, patch it to hell and tell it release ? ( even more funny "precise") |
| [19:15:57] | tgm4883: | fugg, canonical syncs the sid repo at the start of the dev cycle, works on their own stuff (new features, fixes bugs, etc), then releases it 6 months later |
| [19:16:48] | tgm4883: | please let me know how that makes sid (which is by definition without testing) is more stable than Ubuntu release |
| [19:16:48] | bas-t: | I guess you are a couple of youngsters, am I right? |
| [19:17:09] | tgm4883: | bas-t, you should probably learn a bit about healthy debate |
| [19:17:48] | tgm4883: | are we not allowed to discuss things? |
| [19:18:42] | bas-t: | sure you are, but where does that leave the main goal? |
| [19:19:11] | tgm4883: | and which main goal would that be? |
| [19:20:18] | bas-t: | helping fugg to build a working htpc cluster |
| [19:22:48] | tgm4883: | bas-t, I'm simply pointing out that I believe fugg to be incorrect in that sid is more stable than Ubuntu precise, which would in turn mean it is a valid option. I for one, have not had any database corruption on my Mythbuntu systems. But since you brought it up, what do your comments about how we must be youngsters add to this main goal? |
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| [19:27:11] | bas-t: | nothing indeed, you are right, about ubuntu precise too, I think. However, I am under the impression, correct me if I am wrong, that this channels purpose is to help other mythtv users with their problems. Not to bash others opinions |
| [19:28:37] | fugg: | haha, went away for a pizza and come back in a battle;) |
| [19:29:43] | fugg: | tgm4883, i'm not here to bash anything but *ntu fails on many parts where all others just work. |
| [19:30:18] | dekarl: | obviously *buntu must be the best distribution as it has >90% market share on smolt ^^ |
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| [19:31:29] | fugg: | dekarl, did you personally tell smolt what you installed ? |
| [19:32:23] | tgm4883: | fugg, the mythtv smolt detects the distro |
| [19:32:52] | dekarl: | fugg, its a script, how can it go wrong when it just reads the distro |
| [19:33:35] | fugg: | tgm4883, dekarl if most people drive a toyota, makes it that car even better than a jaguar ? |
| [19:34:07] | tgm4883: | fugg, strawman argument, jaguar costs more than a toyota right? |
| [19:34:18] | dekarl: | obvisouly it must be better otherwise people would not buy it over a jaguar. The interesting question how you measure performance |
| [19:35:06] | fugg: | tgm4883, most *ntu users coming from winblows, following the hype of a so promoted "user-friendly" distro. |
| [19:36:14] | dekarl: | and I thought they ask what to install to get a working mythtv setup and base their decision on the replies |
| [19:37:22] | tgm4883: | fugg, if it's so broken and user-friendly, then wouldn't they quickly leave for something else? |
| [19:38:18] | fugg: | tgm4883, due to the lack of CLI skills. |
| [19:38:55] | tgm4883: | fugg, you mean they don't leave ubuntu because other distros require more cli skills? |
| [19:38:57] | dekarl: | fugg, lack of CLI skills makes them stay on *ntu over *dows? I can't follow you |
| [19:39:38] | fugg: | dekarl, no but they choose *ntu over another distro. |
| [19:40:29] | dekarl: | Ahh, ok. I think they did move on to Mint, it already has 5% market share! |
| [19:40:49] | fugg: | i ton't tell *ntu worse out of a mood, i tested several versions and any version since (including) koala had massive issues where other distos not had. |
| [19:41:42] | tgm4883: | fugg, ah, so your testing of it was bad so they just have bad releases now. Tell me again about your repeatedly corrupted database |
| [19:42:25] | bas-t: | As I stated earlier, I'm a first time user of IRC. I guess I have to learn a lot about your habits and unwritten rules. |
| [19:42:40] | fugg: | tgm4883, my msqlservers are ok, they carry different DB's where only mythconverg producing partial crap. |
| [19:43:19] | tgm4883: | fugg, well surely if it was mythconverg then it would be more widespread in the mythtv community? |
| [19:43:58] | fugg: | tgm4883, assume most people have a front/back combo and small network. |
| [19:44:13] | tgm4883: | how large is yours? |
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| [19:44:52] | fugg: | actually 154 active nodes and i had to shutdown 82 other nodes because of a broken aircondition. |
| [19:45:22] | tgm4883: | that's a pretty large installation. Mind if I ask where it's at? |
| [19:45:48] | fugg: | tgm4883, in words of country or what ? |
| [19:45:59] | wagnerrp: | type would be fine |
| [19:46:05] | wagnerrp: | hotel, hospital, school, etc... |
| [19:46:10] | tgm4883: | ^ |
| [19:46:37] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: HD-PVR 2 is shipping. Be prepared for the questions about whether it's supported with Myth. |
| [19:46:57] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, is the HD-PVR 2 supported in MythTV yet? |
| [19:47:04] | wagnerrp: | colossus internals? |
| [19:47:09] | devinheitmueller: | nope |
| [19:47:15] | devinheitmueller: | Totally different design. |
| [19:47:20] | tgm4883: | fugg, what wagnerrp said. Hotel, hospitel, school. What type of installation is this? |
| [19:47:45] | wagnerrp: | anything with potential for 3rd party linux support? |
| [19:47:50] | fugg: | tgm4883, wagner, neither of them, mainly used to develop electonics and compile some code. |
| [19:47:51] | devinheitmueller: | I cannot say. |
| [19:48:09] | wagnerrp: | well is it USB? |
| [19:48:20] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: http://hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr2-gaming.html |
| [19:48:41] | wagnerrp: | in other words, not intended for mythtv, just your company's computing system |
| [19:49:31] | tgm4883: | fugg, not sure I understand why you have 154 mythtv nodes |
| [19:49:41] | wagnerrp: | will the PS3 not do 1080p over component video? |
| [19:49:51] | tgm4883: | if it's not some sort of massive frontend installation |
| [19:50:07] | fugg: | wagnerrp, there are just 4 backends and 12 frontends but we talked about the average myth-user which will often have all on one box. |
| [19:50:50] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: beats me. I'm not much of a gamer. |
| [19:51:23] | devinheitmueller: | ... or it could be a limitation of the component receiver chip as opposed to the HDMI receiver. |
| [19:51:42] | wagnerrp: | oh, its HDMI, not analog |
| [19:52:02] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: it supports both HDMI and component. |
| [19:52:11] | wagnerrp: | the thin thing is a breakout connector? |
| [19:52:16] | devinheitmueller: | ... but because the PS3 does HDCP for HDMI, you're supposed to use component. |
| [19:52:19] | devinheitmueller: | yes. |
| [19:52:26] | devinheitmueller: | It's the same connector as on the Colossus. |
| [19:52:33] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [19:52:43] | tgm4883: | fugg, surely there are more than a few people with multiple backend setups that would see similar issues. (although yea almost 98% of the people have 1 host) |
| [19:52:54] | devinheitmueller: | (I' |
| [19:53:06] | devinheitmueller: | (I'm almost certain it's the same connector) |
| [19:53:13] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, How exactly are hosts/cluster defined? |
| [19:53:28] | fugg: | tgm4883, maybe they did the same like me but didn't ask before ? |
| [19:53:50] | wagnerrp: | not sure what you mean |
| [19:54:11] | wagnerrp: | as far as im concerned, a "mythtv cluster" is any mythtv installation with more than one machine |
| [19:54:16] | tgm4883: | fugg, I'm thinking the guys that have done large school/hotel rollouts would have said something. but thats just a guess |
| [19:54:35] | wagnerrp: | i consider myself as having a mythtv cluster, at two backends and three frontends |
| [19:54:46] | wagnerrp: | four machines total |
| [19:54:59] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: I think its about the smolt terms where "cluster" is the count of master backends and hosts is the count of frontends |
| [19:55:00] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, i'm guessing it's just looking at the frontend hostname and then taking all the frontends that have the same backend hostname and makes it a cluster? |
| [19:55:32] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, dekarl yea I'm just trying to break down this info |
| [19:55:37] | wagnerrp: | no, there is a specific UUID stored in the database to define the cluster |
| [19:55:49] | wagnerrp: | one UUID for the host, one for the database |
| [19:55:59] | wagnerrp: | and the one stored in the database is shared by all |
| [19:56:01] | dekarl: | but master and slave backends without frontends won't show up? |
| [19:56:10] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thats the issue |
| [19:56:20] | wagnerrp: | only the frontend currently automatically sends data |
| [19:56:21] | tgm4883: | ah |
| [19:56:35] | wagnerrp: | you can force a backend to send data through the web page |
| [19:56:45] | wagnerrp: | or you can call it manually on that host from the command line, or through cron |
| [19:56:47] | dekarl: | I can imagine some people running with HDHR and the MBE/DB on some always on box and only one dedicated frontend box somewhere |
| [19:56:54] | tgm4883: | is that something on the roadmap? or would it be best to just have a frontend query the database for all UUID's |
| [19:56:58] | tgm4883: | and submit all |
| [19:57:04] | wagnerrp: | but the automated sync only exists on the frontend, and then only on frontend startup |
| [19:57:10] | wagnerrp: | yes, its something i intend to do |
| [19:57:16] | fugg: | tgm4883, see, i did the following order : masterbackend+DB/slavebackend1/slavebackend2/slavebackend3 all installs new, all without errors. after that, i had issues on certain DB related parts which obv. changed without intention. because i have no small green people in my wires, how else would you explain that behaviour ? |
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| [19:57:35] | wagnerrp: | actually, i intend to move the housekeeper out of the backend and into the libraries |
| [19:57:37] | tgm4883: | I wonder if the "only on startup" is why we've seen our numbers drop |
| [19:57:44] | wagnerrp: | and the hardware profile routine into the housekeeper |
| [19:58:06] | dekarl: | tgm4883: I'm wondering what livetv boots count as |
| [19:58:19] | wagnerrp: | livetv boots? |
| [19:58:22] | tgm4883: | dekarl, on the live disk you mean? |
| [19:58:29] | dekarl: | ahh, livecd |
| [19:58:39] | tgm4883: | dekarl, interesting question |
| [19:58:40] | wagnerrp: | livecd... honestly, i dont know how that would work |
| [19:58:53] | wagnerrp: | considering the host-specific uuid is stored on the filesystem |
| [19:59:07] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, can we disable the data being sent on startup? |
| [19:59:13] | tgm4883: | from a frontend option? |
| [19:59:23] | wagnerrp: | its only sent if the user has configured it in the first place |
| [19:59:24] | tgm4883: | eg. mythfrontend --no-send-data |
| [19:59:30] | wagnerrp: | which can only be done through the setup wizard |
| [19:59:35] | tgm4883: | ah |
| [19:59:42] | tgm4883: | dekarl, so no issue then |
| [19:59:50] | wagnerrp: | basically, if it has been run before, it will run again |
| [19:59:58] | wagnerrp: | and disabling it wipes the history that is has been run |
| [20:00:09] | tgm4883: | dekarl, I'm assuming you were wondering about inflated stats due to livecd's sending what would appear to be a new UUID on every startup |
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| [20:00:32] | dekarl: | hmm, the other thing I'm wondering about is the 67% of clusters with 0 video sources |
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| [20:00:45] | wagnerrp: | that is very much concerning |
| [20:00:50] | wagnerrp: | since those mean non-functional systems |
| [20:01:06] | dekarl: | tgm4883: yes, that's what I was wondering about. If the registered UUID is a random number |
| [20:01:08] | wagnerrp: | and honestly, im not even sure how that works |
| [20:01:12] | wagnerrp: | since the backend should not start |
| [20:01:21] | wagnerrp: | and subsequently, the frontend should be complaining about a lack of backend |
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| [20:02:29] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: except dont you patch out that scheduler check so the frontend will run without a properly configured tuner? |
| [20:02:38] | wagnerrp: | s/frontend/backend/ |
| [20:02:43] | tgm4883: | yes |
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| [20:04:25] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I'm not entirely sure why, that is a superm1 question |
| [20:04:48] | wagnerrp: | its something we need to fix ourselves in the not distant term |
| [20:05:14] | tgm4883: | fix not starting? or fix not allowing people to patch that out :) |
| [20:05:24] | wagnerrp: | fix not starting |
| [20:05:35] | tgm4883: | ah yea, for the web backend setup right? |
| [20:05:37] | wagnerrp: | s/fix not starting/allow starting/ |
| [20:05:50] | wagnerrp: | its not exactly "broken" per se |
| [20:06:04] | wagnerrp: | so it technically can't be fixed |
| [20:08:19] | fugg: | wagnerrp, wasn't there some option for external devices which may not avoid startup like network-based input ? |
| [20:08:30] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
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| [20:09:48] | fugg: | some black-box thingies instead a built-in tuner. |
| [20:10:14] | wagnerrp: | basically, there's a check in the scanner that pulls in all operational tuners, and makes sure at least one of them has an input that is connected to a video source with channels |
| [20:10:31] | wagnerrp: | its a sanity check to make sure at least something should be working |
| [20:10:45] | wagnerrp: | that tuner can be anything, physical or virtual |
| [20:10:59] | wagnerrp: | and as long as the code to support that tuner says everything is usable, it passes |
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| [20:15:19] | dekarl: | bas-t, no worries but you might want to take a peek at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IRC#Channel_FAQ_.2F_Rules sometime |
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| [20:20:45] | bas-t: | dekarl: I did. I'm sure it has to do something with my age, I think I interpret these rules in a way that complies with the stone age, in which I was born. But I am catching up rapidly. |
| [20:27:55] | bas-t: | dekarl: Furthermore, I think I tend to translate some lines more harshly then they were ment. That could be a disadvantage of a non-native English speaker. But in general: I have grandchildren, that should explain my behaviour. Now, let's give it a rest. |
| [20:30:06] | fugg: | bas-t, agreed ;) sometimes hard to foreign thinking and english explaining. |
| [20:30:59] | dekarl: | as I said no worries. being a non-native speaker myself I know where you are coming from. btw, I think many of the active people are around 30+ or thereabout |
| [20:31:59] | fugg: | dekarl, actually he's closer to us than some others ;) |
| [20:32:31] | bas-t: | That too, but I am really quite aged, I don't always understand the way of communication of the younger generations |
| [20:32:33] | tgm4883: | I hear wagnerrp is 7 and has been writing python since he was born |
| [20:32:40] | dekarl: | with more dev ressources available in ATSC countries and not so many ressources in DVB countries some things are a bit slow over hear |
| [20:33:45] | kormoc: | I think the dev team is mostly mid 30's to mid 40's |
| [20:35:04] | wagnerrp: | they say he gains his power from hunting live snakes in the amazon |
| [20:35:04] | bas-t: | my oldest child is of that age |
| [20:35:12] | wagnerrp: | all we know is we call him wagner |
| [20:35:26] | bas-t: | eh? |
| [20:35:37] | wagnerrp: | never seen top gear? |
| [20:35:43] | bas-t: | no |
| [20:35:53] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, live snakes in the amazon? I thought it was polar bears in the artic |
| [20:36:01] | kormoc: | And he's off. A little wheel spin on the first corner, and he's coming up on the hammer head… |
| [20:36:10] | wagnerrp: | what good are polar bears going to do for writing python? |
| [20:36:35] | bas-t: | that's an interesting question |
| [20:36:50] | dekarl: | please tell me you are talking about top gear uk... |
| [20:36:57] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I don't question the methods of the python gods |
| [20:37:04] | wagnerrp: | do they have a stig on the US version? |
| [20:37:16] | kormoc: | dekarl, Yeehaw! Nothing like a ford racing a airplane |
| [20:37:31] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, they do, they have 'a' stig, not 'the' stig |
| [20:44:28] | fugg: | ok, all but one issue solved. i have a channel, existing multiple times on certain transponders. one does EPG but not work, the doubles (4) work but no epg. same chan on the old backend worked. also missing one chan (not found ) which was used to work on the old too. |
| [20:47:34] | fugg: | may it be worth a shot to use another card for scanning ( should not, it's digital but meh) ? |
| [20:47:37] | dekarl: | fugg, btw. obviously more people buy toyotas because they've seen them on fire and ice in top gear ^^ |
| [20:48:06] | dekarl: | e.g. http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dat . . . _Hilux_2.jpg |
| [20:48:23] | wagnerrp: | the only toyota they like is that hilux diesel |
| [20:48:30] | fugg: | dekarl, i guess in fast & furious was also some toyotas . |
| [20:48:32] | wagnerrp: | and you cant even buy one over here in the states |
| [20:50:14] | fugg: | wagnerrp, would be nice to have some editable choice ( regarding transponders/frequency) in a newer version, something planned ? |
| [20:50:19] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: wikipedia says its because they are not sold under the hilux brand in the us |
| [20:50:56] | wagnerrp: | i dont think toyota sells a light diesel truck under any other name either |
| [20:50:58] | dekarl: | fugg, as a workaround you can just manually scan the transponder and let it write over the existing entry |
| [20:51:12] | wagnerrp: | fugg: chances are very poor of ever seeing an improvement in mythtv-setup |
| [20:53:15] | fugg: | dekarl, tried to add a transponder with no luck also tried to scan from another one, gives me all exiting channels again. also no luck by comparing old and new DB because the lack of primary keys in the tables. |
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| [20:54:47] | bas-t: | maybe a nit-other problem after all? |
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| [20:55:08] | wagnerrp: | what is this "nit-other"? |
| [20:55:11] | fugg: | bas-t, what means nit-other ? |
| [20:56:11] | bas-t: | this means that your provider uses an other network ID then the standard one. |
| [20:56:46] | bas-t: | In my case, I have to insert 9700 as the network ID |
| [20:57:11] | bas-t: | As opposed to the standard ID of 1000 |
| [20:57:57] | dekarl: | fugg, your provider sends a bunch of different NetworkInformationTables but does not indicate the active one properly. likely due to old equipment. The NIT contains a list of all frequencies etc. so you have one per differently setup area |
| [20:57:58] | wagnerrp: | does that mean the scanner thinks it is seeing bad data, and simply ignores the channel? |
| [20:58:33] | bas-t: | No, it means something else |
| [20:58:47] | dekarl: | by manualy overring the network_id you can tell a receiver to override which NIT is considered active and thus parsed to find all transports |
| [20:58:48] | bas-t: | I type slow, be patient |
| [20:59:15] | fugg: | bas-t, i tune and lock 83 chans from 4 satelites and all went fine but one fails and one is missing. the former setup (same hardware) worked . |
| [20:59:19] | bas-t: | dekarl: yopu are right |
| [20:59:42] | dekarl: | the issue is mostly seen on DVB-C networks |
| [21:00:01] | bas-t: | dekarl: again you are right\ |
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| [21:01:53] | ** fugg will try another tuner, maybe a light diff in sensivity or distortion will shed some light in. ** | |
| [21:02:23] | bas-t: | who is this asterix? |
| [21:02:49] | wagnerrp: | wrong channel? |
| [21:02:59] | ** wagnerrp sees no asterix ** | |
| [21:03:20] | bas-t: | I am seeing it again |
| [21:03:58] | dekarl: | fugg, maybe you have "(AssemblePSIP) Error: offset>181, pes length & current cannot be queried" in your logfile when scanning. might be good to verify with dvbsnoop as I suspect some issue with PMT/SDT that don't fit into a single TS packet |
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| [21:04:43] | fugg: | dekarl, let me open the log and select that broken chan, then i can paste what happens. |
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| [21:09:08] | dekarl: | fugg, at least SDT > 188 byte should be working, I have to look into the issues that are in the SI parsing sometime |
| [21:10:01] | fugg: | dekarl, since i cleared the db, frontend stops with "unrecoverable error on recorder" and master-backend logs this --> http://pastebin.com/wLsb7UDB |
| [21:10:20] | fugg: | i already changed all cards to a tuning-delay of 200mS |
| [21:12:08] | fugg: | sorry, spam-check with captcha, link is now free. |
| [21:13:00] | dekarl: | you should run mythtv-setup as the user that runs the backend only ;) |
| [21:13:38] | dekarl: | this is a hint that sometime in the past this rule was likely violated "FileRingBuf(/root/.mythtv/channels/rtl.jpg): OpenFile(): Could not open.". But it reminds me to come up with a fix sometime |
| [21:15:30] | dekarl: | fugg, google hints that its possible the contents of mysql.txt on the frontend |
| [21:16:56] | fugg: | dekarl, strange ........ changed all but will recheck. and then why one chan out of 83 ? |
| [21:18:08] | dekarl: | found it here http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/464427 |
| [21:18:26] | dekarl: | if its only one channel, then its likely something else |
| [21:18:52] | dekarl: | I was looking at MainServer, Warning: Unknown socket closing MythSocket |
| [21:18:52] | dekarl: | did not see anything related to a channel |
| [21:20:08] | fugg: | dekarl, i wonder if MythSocket is the socket to the frontend or the socket to the DVB-stream which would make more sense if that chan is wrong tuned. |
| [21:20:44] | fugg: | (checked mysql.txt again and it was ok ) |
| [21:22:01] | dekarl: | hmm I'm out of ideas (and have to leave now) maybe something changed with the channel since it was scanned and worked. |
| [21:22:10] | kormoc: | DVB stream stuff isn't a 'socket' really |
| [21:22:18] | kormoc: | it's all file io |
| [21:23:03] | fugg: | anyone around who is using DVB-S(2) on astra 19.2 E ? |
| [21:23:08] | dekarl: | see you around |
| [21:23:36] | fugg: | haha, else me |
| [21:26:20] | fugg: | ok, the other way .... i use this ( official ) parameters for a complete scan : F: 12551500 P: V SR:22000000 ModSys: DVB-S FEC: Auto Mod_QPSK Inv:Auto Roll:0.35 any alternatives ? |
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| [22:30:02] | fugg: | in mythweb/settings/tv/channelinfo what is this blank field between name and finetuning for ? ( link calls it freqid ) |
| [22:33:29] | kormoc: | the frequency id |
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| [22:33:52] | kormoc: | fugg, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XMLTV_Myth_Channel_Setup |
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| [22:41:29] | fugg: | kormoc, looks like that'S only useful for xmltv but not EPG ? |
| [22:57:08] | fugg: | HEY, solved all tuning issues :) |
| [22:59:19] | fugg: | so still another thing left, what is special about "inputgroup 1" and "inputgroup 2" ? |
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| [23:08:02] | fugg: | i may rephrase ... there are 4 independent DVB-S2 tuners, each in it's own group. if i select one, i can't switch to channels outside of a few chans, even this few chans are not on the same transponder ? |
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| [23:20:23] | Twiggy2cents: | Does anybody know off hand what happens if you have two different version of a tuners fw in the fw directory? Does it choose the newer one or the first alphabetically or a random one? |
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| [23:31:56] | fugg: | Twiggy2cents, the kernel refers to a name which is usually linked e.g you have sometuner_1.0.fw and sometuner_1.1.fw there is usually sometuner.fw ->sometuner_1.1.fw |
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| [23:37:07] | Twiggy2cents: | huh, well long story short. I had two different fw files in there and I only put one. I am using mythbuntu on my backend and suspect that it came with one of the fw's. The thing is is that there was not a base fw file. One was .1.1.fw the other was .1.16.fw. |
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| [23:49:24] | frontrange: | Hi, having problem with lircd on Mythbuntu 12.04.1 using ATI X10 remote with USB dongle. Seems the previous version of Mythbuntu, this just worked after initial install, but not with 12.04.1. Is this a known problem? |
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