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| [00:27:14] | tlhiv_laptop: | does anyone know if one can play a directory without a playlist in MythMusic in 0.26(beta) ... it is not available in 0.25, and that's the sole reason that I run 0.24 |
| [00:27:15] | tlhiv_laptop: | the whole idea of HAVING to have playlists is a bit forceful for me |
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| [01:18:52] | bill6502: | tlhiv_laptop: Not the answer you're looking for, but have you seen/tried: code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/b6dc2b2 |
| [01:22:06] | tlhiv_laptop: | well when i upgraded from 0.24 to 0.25, i lost the ability to play by directory (i.e., it forced me to use playlists), and so i haven't / won't upgrade to a newer version unless i can be assured that i can continue to do this |
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| [05:03:35] | mdurkq: | Anyone successfully using a HVR-4000 in mythbuntu 12.04? |
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| [10:02:53] | mal: | hi, I have a 2 pc mythbuntu setup running, frontend and a separate backend obviously. I have a second hard drive in the backend, with a heap of videos and music on it. I have it mounted at /media/data2 on the backend. How can I get the frontend to see it please? |
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| [10:20:32] | rockbadger: | hi all. I need to change the computer name of my mythtv backend. I know that if I change it the myth database will stop working – what's the best way to do this? Thanks. |
| [10:29:15] | CiaranG: | mal: You need to add a Storage Group in mythsetup |
| [10:30:38] | mal: | from frontend or backend |
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| [10:37:23] | mal: | I've created a storage group, the directory exists but it tells me it doesn't |
| [10:52:04] | rockbadger: | you can ignore my question as i think i found the answer ( http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#backupdb ) |
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| [11:32:43] | mal: | hi, I have a 2 pc mythbuntu setup running, frontend and a separate backend obviously. I have a second hard drive in the backend, with a heap of videos and music on it. I have it mounted at /media/data2 on the backend. How can I get the frontend to see it please? |
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| [13:30:43] | mal: | Hi all, I am having trouble getting my mythbuntu frontend to see my music in a hard drive mounted at /media/data2 on my backend |
| [13:30:49] | wagnerrp: | Video Library content has been streamed from the backend since 0.22, so your storage should be defined in mythtv-setup, in the Videos storage directory, on the backend |
| [13:31:04] | mal: | music |
| [13:31:27] | wagnerrp: | the Music Library has not yet been converted over to this internal streaming mechanism, so each frontend needs direct access to the content |
| [13:31:40] | wagnerrp: | that means NFS mounts to each frontend that runs MythMusic |
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| [13:38:13] | mal: | ok, looking that up now |
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| [13:41:18] | mal: | set that up from the frontend? |
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| [13:46:55] | mal: | not sure how to find info on that |
| [13:47:04] | mal: | seems to skip that part |
| [13:47:16] | wagnerrp: | info on NFS? |
| [13:48:32] | mal: | yeah, all the mythmusic info I have found says do that which I have already done |
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| [13:49:06] | wagnerrp: | if youve done that, then what is the question? |
| [13:49:08] | mal: | says it can't find my music directory |
| [13:49:24] | mal: | well, it's there, I suppose it's assuming it's on the frontend |
| [13:49:29] | mal: | which it's not |
| [13:49:45] | wagnerrp: | in other words, you have not mounted it using NFS |
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| [13:58:40] | sphery: | mal: must also be mounted at /exactly/ the same absolute location on each system--so if you mount it at /srv/mythtv/music on one system, it must be there on all |
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| [13:59:50] | mal: | it's on a second hard drive, mounted at /media/data2 on the backend |
| [14:01:04] | sphery: | has to be the same location on the frontend, then, too |
| [14:02:03] | mal: | hmmm, well I'm not sure I understand how to do that |
| [14:03:57] | mal: | this hard disk won't show up from the frontend will it? |
| [14:11:10] | wagnerrp: | sure it will... thats what NFS is for |
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| [14:15:28] | sphery: | mal: not much here, but the link to wikipedia has much more: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/NFS |
| [14:15:58] | sphery: | mal: also: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ |
| [14:16:25] | sphery: | mal: and: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ |
| [14:16:29] | wagnerrp: | important takeaway, its completely independent from mythtv, and must be configured by you outside of mythtv |
| [14:16:46] | sphery: | but most distros have stuff to make it easy to configure |
| [14:17:15] | sphery: | (so check distro wikis/documentation/fora/... , too) |
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| [14:31:43] | mal: | MCC gives me an option to enable the NFS server on setup |
| [14:31:50] | mal: | this wasn't enough? |
| [14:32:11] | sphery: | you also have to tell your system to use NFS and which file systems to mount and where |
| [14:32:28] | sphery: | the server just makes it possible, you still have to do it |
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| [14:33:15] | wagnerrp: | MCC questions would be better for #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [14:33:23] | wagnerrp: | since that's a mythbuntu application, not a mythtv one |
| [14:33:39] | wagnerrp: | many of us who dont use ubuntu dont know its inner workings or capabilities |
| [14:33:57] | mal: | here is the only place I have been getting a response, lol' |
| [14:34:29] | tgm4883: | In my defense, the last time you asked was 4AM my time |
| [14:34:36] | sphery: | and NFS questions could even go to #ubuntu |
| [14:34:45] | wagnerrp: | no excuses! |
| [14:35:01] | sphery: | tgm4883: yeah, wagnerrp is here 24hrs per day to help, so you could be too |
| [14:35:05] | sphery: | (not me, though :) |
| [14:35:18] | tgm4883: | sphery, how? Does he have a beeper? |
| [14:35:24] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, are you the beeper king? |
| [14:35:29] | sphery: | hehe |
| [14:35:43] | sphery: | I think wagnerrp may, in fact, be a bot |
| [14:35:50] | wagnerrp: | ive got four on my belt, and another six strapped around my collar, and one more on... |
| [14:35:51] | wagnerrp: | erm... |
| [14:35:54] | wagnerrp: | forget that one |
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| [14:36:43] | wagnerrp: | whoops! |
| [14:36:44] | tgm4883: | Enabling NFS in MCC I think just shares the default mythtv directories (/var/lib/mythtv/recordings, videos, etc) |
| [14:36:57] | wagnerrp: | seems i never restarted my CVS daemon/jail after the last power failure |
| [14:37:10] | tgm4883: | You should be able to tell from another machine by doing 'showmount -e <NFSSERVER>" |
| [14:37:12] | wagnerrp: | havent been updating my portage tree or freebsd repository in over a month |
| [14:37:15] | sphery: | CVS? But I thought all the cool kids used git, now? |
| [14:37:42] | wagnerrp: | freebsd is cvs, portage is actually just a simple rsync |
| [14:37:49] | sphery: | "It's better because it requires me to use complex command lines that no one else can figure out, so I look cool!" |
| [14:38:01] | devinheitmueller: | How 2002. ;-) |
| [14:38:05] | sphery: | hehe |
| [14:38:28] | wagnerrp: | cvsup ~/some_supfile ? |
| [14:38:35] | wagnerrp: | thats the only command i know |
| [14:39:37] | sphery: | wow, so cvsup bolts on distributed version control like capabilities on top of cvs? |
| [14:39:50] | wagnerrp: | i guess? |
| [14:40:21] | ** sphery wonders if these bsd people call each other up and yell, "cvsuuuuuuupppppp!" ** | |
| [14:40:35] | sphery: | (old beer commercial reference :) |
| [14:40:48] | sphery: | guess no one here would have seen those, though :) |
| [14:41:00] | tgm4883: | cvsuuuuuuuppppppp! |
| [14:41:01] | wagnerrp: | old? thats only like 5–10 years ago |
| [14:41:21] | wagnerrp: | hey! tell carl to get on the irc! |
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| [14:41:28] | sphery: | hehe |
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| [14:42:25] | carl_dog: | cvsuuuupppppp! |
| [14:42:40] | wagnerrp: | uuuupppppppp! |
| [14:42:55] | tgm4883: | uuuuuuuuuppppppppppppppppppppppppp |
| [14:43:03] | wagnerrp: | pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp! |
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| [14:43:52] | wagnerrp: | bah.... |
| [14:44:07] | wagnerrp: | i saw 'strip' lines flying through at the end of the emerge, so i cancelled it |
| [14:44:18] | wagnerrp: | only to scroll back up and see it was saying it was skipping the strip |
| [14:45:43] | wagnerrp: | well at least that means it's all in ccache and should be very fast |
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| [14:58:21] | sphery: | hehe |
| [14:58:33] | sphery: | I'm surprised you don't read at scroll-by speeds, yet |
| [15:00:26] | wagnerrp: | well i saw it just as it scrolled off the top of the window |
| [15:00:41] | wagnerrp: | and xterm is currently configured to reset its position on new data |
| [15:02:47] | wagnerrp: | so is this behavior a Qt thing? |
| [15:03:22] | wagnerrp: | the debug/profile/release and stripping behavior? |
| [15:03:26] | wagnerrp: | sphery: ^^^ |
| [15:05:53] | wagnerrp: | Cardoe: see also ^^^^... mythtv-0.25.2_p20120716 lists normal behavior as '--compile-type=release --disable-stripping' |
| [15:06:22] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: what? |
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| [15:06:52] | wagnerrp: | we're discussing #11014 |
| [15:06:52] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11014 ** | |
| [15:07:19] | wagnerrp: | using --compile-type=profile instead of release makes everything work as it is supposed to |
| [15:07:28] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: Yes |
| [15:07:37] | Cardoe: | I previously used --compile-type=profile --disable-stripping |
| [15:07:43] | wagnerrp: | waiting on sphery to answer if the profile/release stuff is Qt behavior, or something mythtv does |
| [15:08:19] | wagnerrp: | comment above, or maybe in other channel, mentions --disable-stripping is a commented out and non-functional FFmpeg parameter, not one mythtv's configure supports |
| [15:08:29] | Cardoe: | But I was told using --compile-type=profile was not recommended for users that are just trying to use it in production |
| [15:08:50] | wagnerrp: | i know next to nothing about the various compile types |
| [15:09:32] | ** wagnerrp pokes sphery some more ** | |
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| [15:23:31] | sphery: | Cardoe: we have no --disable-stripping configure option... that's an option from ffmpeg's configure (that we import) and only exists in there in the ffmpeg configure's commented-out help text |
| [15:23:42] | sphery: | wagnerrp: it's something we do specifically for mythtv |
| [15:24:05] | wagnerrp: | is there any problem with a user running 'profile' rather than 'release'? |
| [15:24:13] | sphery: | so --disable-stripping isn't supported with mythtv, which is why it doesn't work :) |
| [15:24:27] | sphery: | no problems with profile |
| [15:24:37] | sphery: | mythbuntu and Fedora do profile builds |
| [15:24:42] | sphery: | then they strip on install |
| [15:24:57] | sphery: | they actually strip to a separate file to create debug packages |
| [15:25:19] | sphery: | that way they distribute the stripped profile build (which is, ttbomk, identical to a release build's install) |
| [15:25:41] | sphery: | but the users can download the debug package (which is just separate debug files) that gdb can use with the existing binaries--the ones that were failing |
| [15:27:32] | sphery: | wagnerrp: this is the general approach they use to create separate debug files: http://www.moythreads.com/wordpress/2009/08/3 . . . arate-files/ |
| [15:27:46] | sphery: | don't now if emerge or whatever has a similar option |
| [15:28:16] | wagnerrp: | no real point to it, since its not like you're distributing these packages to other systems |
| [15:28:23] | sphery: | running the stripped binaries is actually better for production, so building profile, then stripping to separate files gives the best of both worlds |
| [15:28:34] | wagnerrp: | (technically you could, but i doubt hardly anyone does) |
| [15:28:40] | sphery: | and, yeah, it seems with Gentoo, it's easy enough to just rebuild/reinstall without stripping |
| [15:29:20] | wagnerrp: | im not sure if gentoo can selectively strip only certain applications |
| [15:29:43] | wagnerrp: | USE flags can be set per ebuild, but this is a portage FEATURE |
| [15:29:54] | sphery: | separate apps, like separate apps in mythtv build? |
| [15:30:01] | sphery: | if so, I don't think there's any real reason to do that |
| [15:30:26] | sphery: | installing with debug intact for all programs before debugging seems reasonable to me |
| [15:30:57] | wagnerrp: | no, like media-tv/mythtv versus www-client/firefox |
| [15:31:19] | sphery: | isn't that what kormoc's magic does: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Rebuild_ . . . mbols_intact |
| [15:31:23] | wagnerrp: | FEATURES is a global option applied to portage |
| [15:31:25] | sphery: | (which is in the Gentoo section of that page) |
| [15:31:47] | wagnerrp: | meaning you can tell portage to 'nostrip' and build mythtv, and then remote that option and build firefox |
| [15:32:07] | wagnerrp: | but i dont know if you can selectively force it on only mythtv if you are building both in the same instance of the packager |
| [15:33:01] | sphery: | if it does profile build by default and strips by default, then the only ones who need to install without stripping are those who found an issue to debug |
| [15:33:21] | wagnerrp: | it did, before |
| [15:33:22] | sphery: | so they could do like on the wiki page? |
| [15:33:39] | sphery: | then next time they build stuff it will use the normal approach? |
| [15:33:41] | wagnerrp: | as of the last ebuild, default parameters wre '--compile-type=release --enable-debug --disable-stripping' |
| [15:34:05] | wagnerrp: | as cardoe was advised to use 'release' rather than 'profile' |
| [15:34:16] | sphery: | we don't have a --enable-debug, either (again, that's a ffmpeg/unsupported configure arg) |
| [15:34:20] | sphery: | i.e. we ignore it |
| [15:34:44] | Cardoe: | Well the thing is every distro is going to want their binaries built with debug and not stripped |
| [15:34:59] | Cardoe: | Debian & Fedora for sure |
| [15:35:04] | Cardoe: | That's how they build their debug packages |
| [15:35:06] | sphery: | I'm not sure who recommended against profile, but I'm 99.9% positive that's what mythbuntu is doing (and pretty sure RPM Fusion does, too) |
| [15:35:44] | sphery: | Cardoe: yeah, pretty sure they do profile builds, then strip on install (actually stripping to separate debug files) |
| [15:35:49] | wagnerrp: | but gentoo wants its stuff not stripped too |
| [15:35:55] | Cardoe: | sphery: That's what Gentoo does |
| [15:36:07] | Cardoe: | We strip on install and strip to separate debug files |
| [15:36:09] | sphery: | that's what I think everyone should do |
| [15:36:41] | sphery: | but to get debugging symbols, you'd need to use profile build, since we don't do anything with --enable-debug or --disable-stripping |
| [15:36:48] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: well I'll flip the ebuilds back to profile |
| [15:36:53] | wagnerrp: | so when portage strips the binaries, it keeps the debugging symbols but puts them elsewhere? |
| [15:37:17] | sphery: | FEATURES="splitdebug" sounds like that's what it would do |
| [15:37:29] | wagnerrp: | if they're still stored on the file system, whats the difference keeping them in the binary versus keeping them in a separate file? |
| [15:37:41] | wagnerrp: | either way, its taking up roughly the same space |
| [15:37:44] | sphery: | in binary requires more memory to run |
| [15:37:55] | sphery: | if they're in separate files, they're only used by gdb |
| [15:37:57] | wagnerrp: | because the larger file has to be loaded in memory? |
| [15:37:58] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [15:38:00] | sphery: | yeah |
| [15:38:21] | sphery: | it's really a great way of doing debug--and is what I do for all my stuff |
| [15:38:32] | wagnerrp: | didnt know if it was intelligent enough to only load the executable bits |
| [15:39:21] | wagnerrp: | also, the official ebuilds are no longer doing --enable-proc-opts? |
| [15:39:28] | sphery: | yeah... basically the executable just has a "debuglink" that specifies the location of the debug data, so gdb can find it, but it's completely unnecessary for normal execution, so it's only used by debuggers |
| [15:40:16] | sphery: | so you remove about 2/3 or more of the executable file's contents and replace it with a reference to a separate file--which is /much/ smaller :) |
| [15:40:40] | sphery: | (well, the link is much smaller--the separate file would be about the size of what you removed :) |
| [15:40:59] | sphery: | --enable-proc-opt should be used |
| [15:41:01] | Cardoe: | sphery: that's exactly what FEATURES=splitdebug does |
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| [15:42:06] | sphery: | at least I can't think of a reason not to use --enable-proc-opt on Gentoo--since most will be compiling for their own specific system |
| [15:42:30] | Cardoe: | Sure some people compile on other systems and deploy the binary packages |
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| [15:43:09] | sphery: | (and those who are doing builds for atom on fast systems can figure out how to change the ebuild/specify the "you really need to know what you're doing" cpu/tune/march stuff themselves) |
| [15:43:30] | wagnerrp: | right, but manual selection of such options should be an "advanced" behavior, rather than the default |
| [15:43:35] | sphery: | agreed |
| [15:44:03] | wagnerrp: | id rather see those manual arch/cpu/tune options only used if some USE flag is enabled |
| [15:44:24] | wagnerrp: | or if a cross compiler is detected (but that's in there independently) |
| [15:45:51] | wagnerrp: | maybe add some tag to the version string if such option is used, similar to the "(dirty)" git uses |
| [15:46:26] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: If you can tell me an easy way to do that |
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| [15:47:24] | wagnerrp: | source version is just grabbed out of an optional file in the source directory |
| [15:47:28] | wagnerrp: | see line 149 |
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| [15:47:59] | wagnerrp: | just append some string to the variable stored at the top of the file |
| [15:48:01] | Cardoe: | oh yeah |
| [15:48:10] | Cardoe: | that shouldn't be too hard |
| [15:51:55] | wagnerrp: | something like... http://pastebin.com/sVdm2Xfz |
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| [16:01:01] | sphery: | tgm4883: hope I didn't overstep my bounds by requesting some people help out with Mythbuntu theme--or make things more difficult by mentioning it before you were ready |
| [16:01:12] | tgm4883: | sphery, nope, It's all god |
| [16:01:16] | tgm4883: | good* |
| [16:01:41] | sphery: | (I'm just really excited about talking that one up for team approach since a /lot/ of people use it and love it, I figure there's a good chance of getting some to volunteer :) |
| [16:02:16] | sphery: | and if that one does use the team approach, we can show people how well it works and maybe convince a few other users of other themes to help with their theme of choice |
| [16:07:28] | sphery: | wagnerrp / Cardoe : btw, thanks for taking care of 11014 |
| [16:09:06] | Cardoe: | sphery: really its a Gentoo user with a packaging issue so that's really up to me to fix. ;) |
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| [16:19:30] | sphery: | Cardoe: but you guys were quick with the fix--that's the part I really appreciate :) |
| [16:19:44] | sphery: | (i.e. much better than I've been, lately, with my bugs/tickets!) |
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| [17:43:01] | peitolm: | hmm mythweb is giving me '!!NoTrans: SQL Error: Column 'starttime' cannot be null [#1048]!!', has anyone seen this before? |
| [17:46:26] | peitolm: | o.k. running mthweb git is probably a bad idea |
| [17:46:47] | wagnerrp: | why would that be bad? |
| [17:47:40] | peitolm: | because whilst it seems to have solved my previewgeneration, it's giving me details of wrong shows, and won't let me tell myth not to record specific shows |
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| [17:47:56] | peitolm: | most of this is probably because i'm not running a -git'd version of mythbackend :| |
| [17:47:59] | wagnerrp: | but 'mythweb git' is meaningless |
| [17:48:24] | peitolm: | how about 'current version of mythweb in git' |
| [17:48:24] | wagnerrp: | all it means is you're using the direct source, rather than something packaged and potentially modified by some distro |
| [17:48:35] | peitolm: | rev ff51537e6 |
| [17:48:40] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [17:48:46] | peitolm: | yes |
| [17:49:27] | peitolm: | wagnerrp, what git revision does 0.25.1 map to, do you know? |
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| [17:50:02] | wagnerrp: | some revision tagged on june 4th |
| [17:50:10] | smoothifier: | i noticed when watching a video that it filled the screen rather than was letterboxed. is this a setting i overlooked? |
| [17:50:27] | peitolm: | june 4th, ta |
| [17:50:36] | wagnerrp: | smoothifier: it means you're using the software decoder, which will autoscale such content |
| [17:50:55] | peitolm: | ah, perfect, |
| [17:51:04] | smoothifier: | is that vidpau? |
| [17:51:38] | wagnerrp: | no, thats the software decoder |
| [17:52:40] | smoothifier: | so i guess i have that configured incorrectly. is that a setting in Setup? |
| [17:53:08] | smoothifier: | i have vidpau set as a playback profile as far as i know |
| [17:54:06] | wagnerrp: | in frontend setup, yes |
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| [18:04:03] | smoothifier: | hmm, i selected VDPAU Normal in Setup, TV Settings, Playback, Playback Profiles |
| [18:07:19] | smoothifier: | could it have something to do with http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Specifying_DPI_for_NVIDIA_Cards&nb sp;? |
| [18:09:15] | dekarl: | devinheitmueller: sorry I wasn't of much use wrt http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/13563/ but digging into kernel patching was a bit to much on my plate :) |
| [18:09:15] | dekarl: | btw, I read over at kernellabs that the MVPhd is quite open, do you know if the video API is documented (without NDA) so one could adapt mythfrontend to use the hardware acceleration? I could not find anything on the net about it. |
| [18:10:04] | devinheitmueller: | dekarl: I am *intimately* familiar with the MediaMVP-HD. I was the primary developer on it. |
| [18:10:32] | devinheitmueller: | The video API is proprietary. However I wrote a command line tool which you communicate over a socket with to control the actual player. |
| [18:10:42] | devinheitmueller: | (e.g. PLAY,REW,FF, SEEK, etc) |
| [18:11:04] | devinheitmueller: | So you can spawn the command line tool (providing the filename to play), and then control it over the socket. |
| [18:11:39] | devinheitmueller: | Obviously an out-of-process mechanism is really not as good as an actual API, but it's pretty functional. |
| [18:11:55] | dekarl: | Thats not so nice, with all the OpenMAX here, OpenGL ES there on Sigma Designs' page and XBMC being ported to their chips that they would have opened up a bit. |
| [18:12:02] | devinheitmueller: | I've got a Qt port that runs on the platform too. |
| [18:12:19] | dekarl: | ^- somewhere a "i was hoping" is missing |
| [18:12:22] | devinheitmueller: | They have gotten better over time. However the MediaMVP-HD is based on the 8654, which was before the platform they did the XBMC stuff on. |
| [18:13:14] | devinheitmueller: | They == Sigma Designs. |
| [18:14:29] | devinheitmueller: | The box does work with Myth using the uPNP stuff (I had to make some changes to get it working). But doing a real frontend on a box with only 256MB of RAM available to userland is a challenge. |
| [18:16:45] | devinheitmueller: | Oh, and that platform doesn't have any openGL at all. Just directFB (with 2D acceleration) |
| [18:17:03] | dekarl: | aye, just saw that yesterday. the chip family has 3d but not on that chip :( |
| [18:17:28] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, you really cannot rely on any of their web site marketing. It does a really poor job of explaining which chips have which capabilities. |
| [18:17:35] | dekarl: | I was thinking that a native frontend was within reach on that platform (compared to raspberry pi and the like) |
| [18:17:53] | devinheitmueller: | I think *I* could get a native frontend working, but it would be a rather large project. |
| [18:18:13] | devinheitmueller: | ... and it would leverage the fact that I really know the platform well. |
| [18:19:14] | devinheitmueller: | What's the minimum Qt version that Myth requires at this point? |
| [18:19:22] | dekarl: | I think its 4.6 |
| [18:19:23] | wagnerrp: | 4.6 i believe |
| [18:19:36] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, that would be a headache. I think the version of Qt I have is only 4.3. |
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| [18:21:17] | devinheitmueller: | I could probably forward-port Sigma's patches to a later Qt rev, but that's probably a project all by itself. |
| [18:22:37] | dekarl: | sounds like the patches have not made it upstream, just adding to the amount of work it takes |
| [18:23:22] | devinheitmueller: | It's unlikely they will ever make it upstream. |
| [18:23:31] | devinheitmueller: | The stuff is specific to working on their platform. |
| [18:23:40] | devinheitmueller: | (mostly input support and DirectFB tweaks) |
| [18:24:02] | dekarl: | does the MVPhd firmware allow stereoscopic videos? If not, theres always hope that the MVP3d will support plain old OpenGL ;) |
| [18:24:51] | devinheitmueller: | Hard to say regarding stereoscopic video. I never got any sample videos to play with, nor did I have a 3D TV to test with. |
| [18:25:57] | dekarl: | its on Sigma Designs list of features but likely needs special handling by duplicating the OSD |
| [18:26:11] | devinheitmueller: | Oh, well I was thinking of video only, not the OSD. |
| [18:26:51] | dekarl: | I was thinking of MythTV style support "we can show 2 copies of the 2D OSD so you can read it in stereoscopic mode" nothing more |
| [18:27:24] | devinheitmueller: | Ah. Probably possible. |
| [18:27:27] | devinheitmueller: | brb |
| [18:29:04] | dekarl: | got to start cooking, hungry girls approaching. ttyl |
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| [19:00:58] | uglyoldbob: | is it possible to see a category of "movies" that has all movies in mythfrontend under "watch recordings" instead of a category for each movie? |
| [19:01:24] | wagnerrp: | only if you title them all "Movie" |
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| [19:02:31] | uglyoldbob: | so there's not a way to force a recording to be in a custom category based on length of recording? |
| [19:03:05] | wagnerrp: | that first sorting group isnt a category, its the title |
| [19:03:16] | uglyoldbob: | oh |
| [19:03:21] | wagnerrp: | you select a title, and mythfrontend shows all programs with that title |
| [19:03:28] | wagnerrp: | then among those, you select a subtitle |
| [19:03:55] | wagnerrp: | categories (or groups) can be used for filtering, but not in the manner you wish |
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| [19:04:19] | uglyoldbob: | is there a way to set title/subtitle for recordings longer than a certain length? |
| [19:04:46] | wagnerrp: | sure, with external scripts |
| [19:05:26] | wagnerrp: | actually, consider me completely incorrect |
| [19:05:52] | wagnerrp: | hit 'm', change group view, and use "Show Program Categories" or "Show Recording Group" |
| [19:06:49] | uglyoldbob: | ok it looks like movies have a title and no subtitle, so if I detect that, I can move title to subtitle and set title to Movie |
| [19:08:27] | wagnerrp: | note that if you have it sort by group or category, each can only hold one value |
| [19:08:38] | wagnerrp: | it would likely be easiest to create a "Movies" recording group |
| [19:08:47] | wagnerrp: | and then make sure to set that when creating rules for movies |
| [19:09:19] | uglyoldbob: | where do i find recording groups in the setup? |
| [19:13:23] | wagnerrp: | they only exist within the context of recordings and recording rules |
| [19:13:35] | wagnerrp: | in order to make one, just define it when you are creating a recording rule |
| [19:15:46] | sphery: | uglyoldbob: you can also create new ones in mythfrontend's Watch Recordings--just select a recording, the MENU|Change Recording Group, and type in the new name |
| [19:17:03] | sphery: | uglyoldbob: though, IMHO, for any large collections of video--especially things you plan to archive--your best bet is to move them to Video Library, which provides much more control over organization (allowing you to organize on the file system, create categories (similar to recording groups), and easily filter or sort based on various criteria |
| [19:17:34] | sphery: | (though no matter how often I say it, someone loves to argue that Watch Recordings is better because they have no idea how nice Video Library now is :) |
| [19:19:10] | sphery: | movies also go well in Video Library--since they tend to be "one off" recordings that don't deserve a separate group for their titles, but occasionally you may have multiple due to sequels, and Video Library handles both well |
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| [19:35:32] | uglyoldbob: | well its frustrating, but i have to figure out why mythtv is suddenly slower than molasses in winter |
| [19:40:41] | sphery: | make sure you're running current 0.25-fixes |
| [19:40:58] | sphery: | versus a release version of MythTV |
| [19:43:53] | uglyoldbob: | its fixes/0.25 available through the ubuntu repository |
| [19:44:11] | uglyoldbob: | well everything is back to normal, except upcoming recordings on mythweb |
| [19:44:33] | uglyoldbob: | scratch that, most of mythweb is weird right now |
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| [20:08:36] | uglyoldbob: | ok so backend status won't load, no icons appear for recorded programs, and i only get the column names of the table for upcoming recordings |
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| [20:20:46] | uglyoldbob: | well it seems the mythtv packages on ubuntu got updated, all is well now |
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