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| [01:47:55] | apollo: | I'm having success with SD channels using firewire to a dct6200. But I am losing my HD streams when ~1GB has saved... Have followed some of the wiki stuff related to testing firewire connectivity and it seems to be set up properly as p2p by the testing given. Any one else had this problem? |
| [01:48:21] | wagnerrp: | is this US or canada? |
| [01:48:26] | apollo: | Canada |
| [01:48:45] | wagnerrp: | so giving up and getting a cablecard tuner isnt an option then.... |
| [01:49:38] | apollo: | wagnerrp: not sure... this doesn't work north of the border? |
| [01:50:39] | wagnerrp: | it would work, if cable companies were required to make cablecards available for use independent of the cable boxes |
| [01:51:19] | apollo: | yes I read a bit about that. |
| [01:51:51] | apollo: | Firewire + dct6200 + canada anyone? |
| [01:54:36] | RagingMind: | dct... this a motorola box? I never hear good things about those |
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| [01:57:55] | apollo: | RagingMind: well that's not good |
| [02:02:13] | apollo: | dmesg | grep 1394 |
| [02:02:19] | apollo: | dmesg | grep fire |
| [02:02:22] | apollo: | dmesg | grep -i fire |
| [02:02:25] | apollo: | dmesg | grep -i fw |
| [02:02:32] | apollo: | oh crap sorry |
| [02:02:32] | RagingMind: | apollo, wrong window? |
| [02:02:47] | apollo: | yeh running irssi |
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| [02:42:11] | northrup: | her her… although, as far as IRC clients go, I loves me some irssi |
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| [03:20:01] | wagnerrp: | booo.... |
| [03:20:09] | wagnerrp: | to be continued on Grimm |
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| [05:02:44] | Azelphur: | ii |
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| [06:06:41] | k-man: | i switched to weechat a while ago |
| [06:06:44] | k-man: | i like it |
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| [09:06:01] | slacker-: | Hi, anyone using the turnoff python script? I'm having problems since my last system upgrade |
| [09:17:05] | slacker-: | it seems to fail when trying to get hold of the MythTV.MythBE() object with the following: urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error |
| [09:17:08] | slacker-: | Exception AttributeError: "'MythBE' object has no attribute 'hostname'" in ignored |
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| [09:28:33] | slacker-: | hmm. my config.xml is empty :( |
| [09:36:27] | slacker-: | what's the deal with persmissions for config.xml? I don't like the default 644 |
| [09:37:03] | slacker-: | can I set it to 640 and owned by root:mythtv? |
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| [12:55:14] | mal: | HI trying to connect to the backend from the frontend for the first time, it won't login, I'm a bit confused about details. it's got localhost as the hostname. Now the backend is on another machine, so localhost is wrong, isn't it? |
| [12:57:06] | sulx: | yes |
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| [12:58:59] | Jordack: | you should make sure your backend has a static ip and just set that int the front end. Also you may need to update the permissions for the mysql db |
| [13:03:58] | mal: | I have given the backend a static ip, |
| [13:04:09] | mal: | set that in the front end |
| [13:04:17] | mal: | permissions? |
| [13:05:20] | Jordack: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythfrontend Look at the bottom of the page. |
| [13:06:14] | Jordack: | not meant for that to look like me being a dick, just easier topoint you there than try to explain it :) |
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| [13:06:41] | Jordack: | it cought me up a bit the first time i connected a remote host |
| [13:07:06] | mal: | checking that out BUT when I go (on the backend) to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt it has dbhostname as localhost |
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| [13:08:22] | Jordack: | for the backend that should be fine. I have never changed the mysql.txt manaually on a frontend. Always updated in the setup. But if the front end can not log into the database, you wont get anywhere |
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| [13:09:22] | mal: | so "the bottom part" that you are talking about is from where on the page? |
| [13:10:43] | Jordack: | Second, it may be necessary to alter the privileges table for the MythTV database to allow the frontend to access the mythbackend This will help you setup dc permissions. It needs to be done on the backend. |
| [13:13:16] | mal: | doing that now, will report back soon, thanx for helping |
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| [13:20:50] | mal: | I think I did that part okay, but (this is gonna sound really stupid) the last part when I entered exit, it didn't exit |
| [13:21:32] | Jordack: | you forget the ; ? |
| [13:23:22] | mal: | checking |
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| [13:24:38] | mal: | aha |
| [13:24:51] | mal: | said 0 rows affected |
| [13:25:33] | Jordack: | setting permission i think it always will. |
| [13:25:39] | mal: | ok |
| [13:25:48] | mal: | I'll try logging on again |
| [13:26:00] | Jordack: | in mysql you have to remember the ; at the end of any statement |
| [13:26:23] | mal: | okay |
| [13:26:27] | mal: | logging in again |
| [13:26:46] | mal: | wants me to configure the database connection, this is where i think I stuff up |
| [13:27:14] | mal: | database host name? the static ip address of backend? |
| [13:27:33] | Jordack: | yes |
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| [13:27:53] | mal: | ping? I'm guessing yes |
| [13:28:03] | Jordack: | sure why not :) |
| [13:28:08] | mal: | database non-default port? |
| [13:28:21] | Jordack: | not unless you set it to the non default |
| [13:28:38] | mal: | so leave this part blank? |
| [13:28:41] | Jordack: | yes |
| [13:28:44] | mal: | i never altered any port |
| [13:28:45] | mal: | ok |
| [13:29:00] | mal: | database name? mythconverg? |
| [13:29:08] | Jordack: | yes |
| [13:29:24] | mal: | username is mythtv or my account username? |
| [13:29:39] | Jordack: | shoudl be abel to leave everythign the defaults. |
| [13:29:46] | Jordack: | think i left my as mythtv |
| [13:30:31] | mal: | password, the root, user account or that random one in /etc/mythtv/mysql or whatever that file was4 |
| [13:31:59] | Jordack: | good question i forget. I think it would be that random one in the mysql. You are tring to get the front end to connect into the database of the backend. so everyhtign here has to do with MySQL setting |
| [13:33:15] | mal: | ok |
| [13:33:33] | Jordack: | one other thing i thought of. the firewall may need some tweaking on the backend. thou it may be easier to disable for now and tweak it after the front end is up |
| [13:34:05] | mal: | now the last bit confuses me, I'm entering this on the frontend, trying to connect to the backend, and the line says "unique identifier for this machine" |
| [13:34:09] | mal: | this? |
| [13:34:17] | mal: | the frontend? |
| [13:35:21] | Jordack: | think you can ignore it. i dont use it, but my setup is a bit more advanced with an in house dns server. |
| [13:35:56] | mal: | nope |
| [13:36:00] | mal: | won't connect |
| [13:36:18] | mal: | "cannot login to database" |
| [13:36:46] | Jordack: | can you disable the firewall on the backend for now? twaek it later. (normally I woulld never suggest turning off a firewall but for testing it just makes things easier) |
| [13:38:25] | mal: | hmmm, wasn t aware of one |
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| [13:38:46] | Jordack: | what distro are you using on the backend? |
| [13:39:38] | mal: | mythbuntu |
| [13:41:23] | Jordack: | hmmm it may already be disabled on that one. |
| [13:42:19] | Jordack: | in the connection settings for the front end. Try username mythtv and password mythtv |
| [13:42:30] | mal: | ok |
| [13:42:58] | tgm4883: | mal, did you enable the mythtv service on the backend in mythbuntu-control-centre |
| [13:44:21] | Jordack: | good point tgm. mal I guess the first question is. Can you start the frontend client on the backend server |
| [13:45:59] | mal: | mythbuntu control centre i see no enable mythtv service. could it be worded differently perhaps? |
| [13:46:38] | tgm4883: | mal, I don't think so, let me look |
| [13:46:43] | mal: | haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang on |
| [13:47:01] | mal: | hang on |
| [13:47:36] | mal: | I've always been able to pin it |
| [13:47:39] | mal: | hang om please |
| [13:48:04] | ** tgm4883 grabs sphery and hangs on ** | |
| [13:49:26] | mal: | still no but different error message now |
| [13:49:28] | mal: | hmmm |
| [13:50:07] | Jordack: | are you tring to run teh backend and frontend on the same box or differant boxes? |
| [13:50:34] | mal: | different |
| [13:50:47] | Jordack: | ok, thats what i was assuming. |
| [13:51:05] | Jordack: | can you start the frontend on the backend? that will at least let you know the backend is workign |
| [13:51:17] | mal: | checking |
| [13:51:56] | mal: | 'yes I can |
| [13:52:11] | tgm4883: | Are you using the right password from mysql.txt on the backend? |
| [13:53:35] | mal: | yes |
| [13:53:56] | tgm4883: | ok, on the frontend, do 'mysql -h <BACKENDIP> -u mythtv -p mythconverg' and use the password from the backend mysql.txt file |
| [13:54:09] | tgm4883: | it will prompt for the password |
| [13:54:16] | tgm4883: | mythconverg is the database it will connect to |
| [13:56:25] | mal: | before I do that the error messge this time is access denied for user mythtv@'ipaddress' (using password: YES) |
| [13:57:44] | mal: | okay did that |
| [13:57:48] | mal: | error message |
| [13:58:09] | mal: | access denied for user mythtv@frontend ip |
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| [13:58:24] | tgm4883: | ok, so on the backend in MCC, you need to enable the mythtv service |
| [13:58:37] | tgm4883: | also, in the backend setup, are you using localhost or the actual IP address |
| [13:58:47] | tgm4883: | you should be using the actual IP address |
| [13:59:00] | tgm4883: | likely 192.x.x.x |
| [14:00:06] | mal: | using static ip |
| [14:00:17] | mal: | 192 blah blah |
| [14:03:45] | Jordack: | if the frontend is loading up on the backend computer than the service shoudl be running. |
| [14:04:25] | tgm4883: | Jordack, that isn't what the mythtv server function does in MCC |
| [14:04:37] | tgm4883: | Jordack, it enables external connections to MySQL |
| [14:05:26] | Jordack: | ok, then i will bail out of the communication. I have no clue how mythbuntu is setup. Never used it |
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| [14:05:54] | mal: | thanks anyway |
| [14:07:39] | mal: | on the database configuration on frontend t says no upnp backends found |
| [14:07:45] | tgm4883: | mal, I don't have access to my MCC on my backend right now, so I can't tell you the exact wording |
| [14:08:04] | tgm4883: | mal, MCC WILL look different on the backend though |
| [14:08:16] | tgm4883: | the mythtv service isn't present on frontend only machines |
| [14:08:49] | mal: | no, I have both machines available to me now and communicating with you on a 3rd |
| [14:09:31] | mal: | on FRONTEND it opened a run mythfilldatabase and that was the error message |
| [14:10:27] | tgm4883: | aside from "why are you running mythfilldatabase on a frontend", you still need to allow external connections in mysql |
| [14:13:28] | mal: | in MCC on FRONTEND, the Mysql configuration page has "master backend role" enable or disable? |
| [14:15:37] | tgm4883: | disable? |
| [14:16:01] | tgm4883: | on the backend is where you need to configure it |
| [14:16:10] | tgm4883: | not on the frontend |
| [14:16:58] | mal: | when I click disable I get "the mysql plugin is not fully filled out. please complete it before proceeding |
| [14:20:16] | tgm4883: | mal, on the backend, what files do you have in /etc/mysql/conf.d/ |
| [14:21:22] | mal: | mysqld_safe_syslog.cnf and mythtv.cnf |
| [14:22:13] | tgm4883: | mal, ok, what is in mythtv.cnf |
| [14:22:19] | tgm4883: | please use pastebin |
| [14:22:41] | tgm4883: | unless it's only one or two lines |
| [14:24:24] | mal: | <bind-address=0.0.0.0 max connections=100> |
| [14:24:51] | tgm4883: | I'm assuming it isn't in <> |
| [14:25:22] | mal: | yes |
| [14:25:30] | mal: | not in < |
| [14:25:40] | tgm4883: | ok, so it should be accepting external connections |
| [14:25:52] | mal: | i can ping if that tells you anything |
| [14:26:01] | tgm4883: | no it doesn't |
| [14:28:52] | mal: | going to MCC on the frontend doesn't really let me do much at all, I keep getting that mysql plugin is not fully filled out error |
| [14:30:31] | mal: | is it late where you are? |
| [14:31:35] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: would it cause you guys much trouble if the master backend setting were to go away |
| [14:31:59] | wagnerrp: | and the master backend was merely the most recent machine that had run 'mythbackend --master' or 'mythmaster'? |
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| [14:40:19] | tgm4883: | sorry, work came up |
| [14:40:55] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I don't know if that would help. How are you dealing with MySQL in that scenario? |
| [14:42:02] | mal: | tgm is it late where you are? |
| [14:42:24] | tgm4883: | mal, no, 7:45 in the morning |
| [14:42:42] | tgm4883: | I am at work though |
| [14:42:42] | mal: | after midnight here |
| [14:42:46] | mal: | doing my head in |
| [14:44:33] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, the reason I ask, is we have a master backend package to ensure mysql is installed |
| [14:45:20] | tgm4883: | and then where is the frontend trying to connect? |
| [14:46:01] | tgm4883: | mal, so it's probably worth trying to just connect to mysql from the frontend machine using the mysql root account |
| [14:46:15] | tgm4883: | 'mysql -h <BACKENDIP> -u root -p' |
| [14:47:33] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: mysql would still be where ever |
| [14:48:08] | wagnerrp: | what im thinking is just that the frontends would track the machine they last connected to in their config.xml, and try to connect to that again on startup |
| [14:48:18] | wagnerrp: | if they pick up a slave backend, the slave backend will redirect them |
| [14:48:52] | wagnerrp: | if they cant connect, they will resort to the database, or upnp, or bonjour, or whatever to detect the new location of the master |
| [14:48:54] | wagnerrp: | and go from there |
| [14:50:10] | ** wagnerrp has to head out for an eye appointment ** | |
| [14:50:17] | mal: | access denied |
| [14:50:20] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, sounds good, although I'd like to see the backend startup and check avahi (or whatever) for the master backend |
| [14:50:21] | mal: | holy cow |
| [14:50:28] | tgm4883: | mal, can you reboot the backend? |
| [14:50:47] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i would have the master backend check to see no other master backend was running on the network |
| [14:50:55] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, exactly |
| [14:51:07] | mal: | just did that 5 minutes ago |
| [14:51:08] | tgm4883: | and a way to promote itself in the event the other backend stops |
| [14:51:32] | wagnerrp: | planning to expand that system-wide UUID used by the hardware profiler, as a unique identifier for a system |
| [14:51:33] | tgm4883: | does mysql say it's a bad password if you give it the wrong password or just access denied |
| [14:51:34] | tgm4883: | I forget |
| [14:51:43] | wagnerrp: | semi-replacing the current 4-digit PIN |
| [14:52:14] | wagnerrp: | so you could have multiple independent systems on the same network, and the slave backends/frontends would know what UUID they belong to, and only connect to that |
| [14:53:02] | mal: | access denied |
| [14:53:07] | tgm4883: | it would be interesting if you could/would get the different pieces to talk to each other via the API, rather than the myth protocol |
| [14:53:39] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, then potentially, you could have different versions of things in the same network in the same system |
| [14:54:08] | mal: | thanks for help |
| [14:54:12] | tgm4883: | mal, is there anything else on this mysql database? |
| [14:54:21] | mal: | no |
| [14:54:29] | mal: | can't keep eyes open |
| [14:54:34] | tgm4883: | mal, are you on 12.04? |
| [14:54:35] | mal: | will try again tomorrow |
| [14:54:42] | mal: | 12.24am |
| [14:54:45] | tgm4883: | mal, one more thing? |
| [14:54:49] | mal: | yes |
| [14:54:53] | tgm4883: | If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, perform the following to reconfigure it: [1] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it later) [2] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [3] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common |
| [14:54:53] | MythLogBot: | SVN 1: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ce7a5f62 |
| [14:54:53] | MythLogBot: | SVN 2: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/654df684 |
| [14:54:53] | MythLogBot: | No match for SVN revision 3 |
| [14:54:59] | tgm4883: | lol |
| [14:55:13] | tgm4883: | mal, that will reset the root and mythtv passwords in the database |
| [14:55:20] | mal: | from back or frontend |
| [14:55:23] | tgm4883: | backend |
| [14:55:35] | tgm4883: | it should also ask if you want to allow external connections |
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| [14:55:41] | tgm4883: | which you want to say yes to |
| [14:56:13] | mal: | doing this now |
| [14:59:52] | mal: | error:MythTV database has newer TV schema than expected |
| [15:00:00] | mal: | crashes |
| [15:00:02] | mal: | restarts |
| [15:00:13] | tgm4883: | well thats interesting |
| [15:00:27] | tgm4883: | you are on 12.04? |
| [15:00:42] | mal: | haha |
| [15:00:44] | mal: | thought i was |
| [15:00:53] | mal: | went to upgrade to it |
| [15:00:56] | mal: | went out |
| [15:00:59] | mal: | came back |
| [15:01:07] | mal: | assumed it upgraded |
| [15:01:07] | tgm4883: | lsb_release -a |
| [15:01:09] | mal: | hmmm |
| [15:02:30] | mal: | having to restart computer as frontend keeps crashing and doing the same thing again and again |
| [15:03:17] | mal: | backend is 12.04 def |
| [15:03:35] | tgm4883: | did you try to upgrade to 0.26 at any point? |
| [15:04:01] | mal: | frontend is 11.10 |
| [15:04:03] | mal: | hmmm |
| [15:04:11] | mal: | was connected to internet on install |
| [15:04:15] | mal: | hmmm |
| [15:04:29] | mal: | so I am guessing that's played a part? |
| [15:04:54] | tgm4883: | probably not. As long as the mythtv versions are the same it should be fine |
| [15:05:07] | tgm4883: | I've got a 12.04 backend and 11.10 frontend |
| [15:05:13] | mal: | ok |
| [15:05:32] | mal: | can I check the mythtv versions |
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| [15:08:36] | tgm4883: | dpkg -l mythtv* |
| [15:09:51] | mal: | frontend is .24 |
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| [15:09:57] | mal: | backend is .25 |
| [15:10:00] | mal: | hmmm |
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| [15:14:41] | mal: | how about I upgrade to 12.04 and try again tomorrow |
| [15:16:37] | tgm4883: | sorry, more work came up |
| [15:16:56] | tgm4883: | you can just activate the 0.25 repo in MCC on the 11.10 machine and upgrade just mythtv |
| [15:17:02] | tgm4883: | or you can upgrade the whole thing |
| [15:17:47] | mal: | i'll do the first thing |
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| [15:21:49] | mal: | wierd, on the 12.04 i get a repositories tab in MCC, but not in the 11.10 |
| [15:22:07] | mal: | weird |
| [15:22:32] | mal: | I'll just do a full upgrade |
| [15:22:39] | mal: | so tired |
| [15:22:48] | mal: | gonna set that going and go to bed |
| [15:23:00] | mal: | thanks for your massive help |
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| [15:28:16] | mal: | really appreciated |
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| [15:51:26] | ViperSBT: | I've been having a hard time with recording certain programs, they just sit there and when finished show 0.0 as the file size... Some programs record and others don't. I grabbed the log from one that didn't record this morning: http://pastebin.com/GBCCUV45 Any ideas? I can manualy go to watch TV and tune the channel and watch it without a problem, in fact I can even go to the channel and tell it to record... But the schedul |
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| [16:12:07] | sphery: | ViperSBT: do you really want /mnt/store as one of your Storage Group directories? |
| [16:12:23] | sphery: | that's the "built-in default" for when you haven't defined any directories |
| [16:12:34] | sphery: | 2012-08–14 03:59:55.067012 E [1836/2246] Scheduler storagegroup.cpp:184 (Init) – SG(Default): Unable to find any Storage Group Directories. Using hardcoded$ |
| [16:12:54] | sphery: | (where after hardcoded, it should say something about "value of /mnt/store" |
| [16:13:16] | sphery: | i.e. if you look in the logs rather than copy/paste from terminal)\ |
| [16:13:39] | sphery: | ViperSBT: so, looks like you have broken Storage Groups configuration |
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| [16:13:52] | sphery: | possibly just for the SG specified by the failing recording rule |
| [16:14:05] | sphery: | or possibly for all of them/Default |
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| [16:18:22] | ViperSBT: | Yeah, I was just seeing that... I looked at a program that did record and compared the two: |
| [16:18:22] | ViperSBT: | 2012-08–14 04:00:02.297598 I [1836/2240] TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:3989 (TuningNewRecorder) – TVRec(1): rec->GetPathname(): '/mnt/store/1772_20120814040000.mpg' |
| [16:18:23] | ViperSBT: | 2012-08–14 10:00:01.938874 I [1836/2240] TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:3989 (TuningNewRecorder) – TVRec(1): rec->GetPathname(): '/video/tv/1751_20120814100000.mpg' |
| [16:18:37] | ViperSBT: | So, why would it use one location over the other? |
| [16:20:39] | ViperSBT: | the /video/tv is where it should be going |
| [16:22:13] | sphery: | because your SG configuration is broken |
| [16:22:22] | sphery: | are these both the same recording host? |
| [16:22:39] | ViperSBT: | not sure I know what you mean by "recording host" |
| [16:22:44] | sphery: | backend |
| [16:22:49] | sphery: | that's doing the recording |
| [16:22:52] | ViperSBT: | They are using the same Ceton Adapter... Yes, only one backend |
| [16:23:55] | sphery: | can you pastebin the output of: mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -e 'SELECT * FROM storagegroup;' |
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| [16:25:28] | wagnerrp: | sphery: we have a built in default now? |
| [16:25:36] | _raven: | hi |
| [16:25:38] | _raven: | trying to run mythtv on two machines (1 backend 1 frontend) but i am not able to connect the database – how to find out why? |
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| [16:26:10] | wagnerrp: | have you configured mysql to listen on your network address? |
| [16:26:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: no, but when it can't find any configuration, it uses a hard-coded value as a "I need something" |
| [16:26:25] | wagnerrp: | by default on most distros, it restricts itself to localhost |
| [16:27:00] | ViperSBT: | Here ya go: http://pastebin.com/zTBB1sfx |
| [16:28:16] | _raven: | wagnerrp yes |
| [16:29:09] | wagnerrp: | have you restarted mysqld to load the new config file? |
| [16:29:23] | sphery: | ViperSBT: I'm guessing it's either a problem with DB access (i.e. losing connection/getting bad data occasionally) or possibly some crazy thing like automount and the directories disappear out from under MythTV |
| [16:29:45] | sphery: | so when it looks for /video/tv/ , it's not there, so it tries to find something else |
| [16:29:59] | ViperSBT: | Ummmm.... |
| [16:30:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: perhaps that's why the user said the permissions on the underlying/parent file system were important in the wiki page? |
| [16:30:21] | wagnerrp: | could be |
| [16:30:50] | ViperSBT: | I've never seen a problem with the drive "being there".... |
| [16:31:16] | _raven: | wagnerrp yes i did a reload |
| [16:31:43] | wagnerrp: | firewall permissions? |
| [16:31:53] | wagnerrp: | can you connect remotely using the mysql command line client? |
| [16:31:55] | ViperSBT: | How could I trouble shoot that? |
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| [16:35:10] | _raven: | wagnerrp i try to find out but i have to find the right commands |
| [16:35:26] | wagnerrp: | mysql -h <hostname> |
| [16:38:27] | _raven: | wagnerrp i have no idea what is messed up but i guess i messed up users/passwords any way |
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| [16:41:24] | _raven: | wagnerrp how to reset the mysql settings? |
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| [16:43:33] | wagnerrp: | those are two completely different problems |
| [16:43:50] | wagnerrp: | are you unable to connect at all? or are you getting a bad username/password? |
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| [16:44:06] | wagnerrp: | they are distinct errors, and handled in very different ways |
| [16:45:22] | _raven: | wagnerrp access denied |
| [16:45:54] | wagnerrp: | is that from mysql or mythtv? |
| [16:46:04] | _raven: | mysql |
| [16:46:44] | wagnerrp: | thats because the command i gave you had no username/password, because i specifically wanted to test whether or not the server was accessible |
| [16:47:40] | _raven: | yes and i added some commands to try some users |
| [16:48:32] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#modify_perm_mysql |
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| [16:53:16] | toeb: | is mythweb supposed to work with 0.26 ? |
| [16:53:29] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [16:54:25] | toeb: | mh i did "git checkout master" in my mythweb directory, but it still complains about wrong protocol version |
| [16:54:53] | wagnerrp: | mythweb has not spoken mythtv protocol since 0.24 |
| [16:55:06] | wagnerrp: | so upgrades to mythweb will do nothing to resolve that issue |
| [16:55:47] | toeb: | so it's the php? bindings? |
| [16:56:04] | wagnerrp: | which should have been installed with mythtv |
| [16:56:29] | ViperSBT: | toeb: What is the problem you are getting? |
| [16:57:01] | toeb: | they probably have been install but i changed the target install directory in configure... |
| [16:57:22] | toeb: | so myhtweb will use the old ones.. |
| [16:57:44] | wagnerrp: | mythweb will look for them in /usr/local/share/mythtv/php |
| [16:58:39] | toeb: | wagnerrp: thx |
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| [17:00:08] | sphery: | ViperSBT: you should have more information in the logs that may be useful, but your excerpt started after the initial problem occurred |
| [17:00:32] | ViperSBT: | sphery: I still can't come up with anything as to why the /video/tv would not be available.... And it is consistently with "one off" type recordings... |
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| [17:00:58] | ViperSBT: | OK, let me got back and see what I can pull from the logs over the prior hour before the problem |
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| [17:03:21] | ViperSBT: | OK, maybe this is better: http://pastebin.com/aSn8VMfR |
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| [17:05:52] | ViperSBT: | And here is where one recorded just a few hours later: http://pastebin.com/W9UxUtiZ |
| [17:06:20] | ViperSBT: | Nothing took place in between these that I am aware of, the box just sat there with no human intervention... |
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| [17:07:54] | ViperSBT: | the /video is a system mounted internal hard drive. So it isn't like an external USB drive of something like that where it could go to sleep... |
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| [17:47:34] | sphery: | ViperSBT: I still think it's some automount kind of thing where the file system disappears and doesn't come back quick enough... You can try: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:Fi . . . atch_live_TV |
| [17:48:31] | sphery: | ViperSBT: if you've done your SGs correctly, /video is the mount point and /video/tv is a directory on the hard drive you're mounting (i.e. you're not putting the actual mount point directory into your SG dir list) |
| [17:49:00] | sphery: | ViperSBT: if so, you may also have to create a /video/tv directory on the parent file system so that the dir is there when MythTV checks |
| [17:49:29] | sphery: | ideally, you wouldn't use automount or anything like it for a "permanent" file system |
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| [17:50:19] | sphery: | (i.e. no autofs) |
| [17:52:30] | ViperSBT: | Yeah, that is all checking out... |
| [17:52:38] | ViperSBT: | Where would I find the autofs? |
| [17:53:47] | sphery: | no idea... I've never used it |
| [17:54:37] | ViperSBT: | I don't think I have either... Let me see... |
| [17:55:54] | ViperSBT: | OK, so autofs is an AutoMount utility that would be used instead of /etc/fstab... I am using /etc/fstab |
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| [17:56:25] | ViperSBT: | grep video /etc/fstab |
| [17:56:26] | ViperSBT: | UUID=cf62bfd1–6afb-43eb-a9e3–7afc6b7be9a6 /video ext4 defaults 1 2 |
| [17:58:12] | sphery: | well, then you'll need to figure out why mythtv can't see the dir |
| [17:58:44] | sphery: | the "fix" described in the wiki page is completely broken on any functional file system |
| [17:59:02] | sphery: | but if another user saw that it helped, it may be that you have a non-functional file system |
| [17:59:26] | sphery: | (basically some bug causes the parent file system's dir permissions to bleed through or something) |
| [17:59:54] | sphery: | but it's a 30s test to see if it helps |
| [18:03:05] | ViperSBT: | Hmmm.... Everything appears to be jiving with what that page says... |
| [18:04:07] | sphery: | you are reading/trying what it says under, "Subtle Issues/Unable to record, or watch live TV", right? |
| [18:04:25] | ViperSBT: | Maybe there is some kind of "management" that is causing the drive/partition to "sleep" when not in use... |
| [18:04:30] | ViperSBT: | Yes |
| [18:05:02] | sphery: | nearly all large drives will spin down when not in use |
| [18:05:07] | sphery: | some very aggressively |
| [18:05:14] | sphery: | WD Greens spin down after 8s of inactivity |
| [18:05:24] | ViperSBT: | But, would that cause them to be "hidden" to Myth when trying to record? |
| [18:05:28] | sphery: | no |
| [18:05:34] | sphery: | but could cause a timeout issue |
| [18:05:50] | sphery: | though I don't think /we/ have any timeouts for it |
| [18:06:15] | sphery: | (but system may be doing something evil without our control) |
| [18:06:49] | ViperSBT: | The problem is, I don't know when it is working or not until after the recording is supposed to start... So I can't pre-empt it as it may have worked anyways... |
| [18:07:57] | ViperSBT: | At least I know what the culprit is... I was thinking it had something to do with my Tuner/CableCard... Good to know it isn't that... |
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| [18:09:37] | sphery: | yeah, definitely a problem with file system/SG dirs |
| [18:09:48] | sphery: | your config looks good, so I'm guessing it's a low-level system issue with file system |
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| [18:36:02] | tomlow: | hello |
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| [19:21:18] | GTRsdk: | Hi. Does this work with IPTV? |
| [19:26:30] | wagnerrp: | depends on your definition of iptv |
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| [19:34:50] | GTRsdk: | definition of iptv? |
| [19:35:15] | GTRsdk: | I just have a cable box that gets the shows from an Ethernet cable |
| [19:35:45] | wagnerrp: | yes, but there are multiple forms |
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| [19:36:04] | wagnerrp: | mythtv supports a form where your channels come in on unencrypted multicast groups |
| [19:36:38] | wagnerrp: | but many IPTV providers use some proprietary or encrypted format, which mythtv cannot hope to use |
| [19:37:57] | wagnerrp: | in such cases, you're stuck using analog capture off their proprietary set top box |
| [19:38:03] | GTRsdk: | So what woudl be the best way to find out which format I get IPTV with? |
| [19:38:32] | wagnerrp: | well who are you using? your user mask isnt very helpful, being routed through tor and all |
| [19:39:21] | GTRsdk: | I'm using Arvig |
| [19:39:46] | GTRsdk: | and the box I am currently using is a Motorola box with Microsoft IPTV on it. |
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| [19:40:12] | wagnerrp: | sounds like microsoft mediaroom.... proprietary and encrypted implementation |
| [19:40:20] | wagnerrp: | analog capture it is |
| [19:42:01] | GTRsdk: | Okay. When doing analog capture, would I be able to get show names, and have it automatically record shows? |
| [19:43:10] | wagnerrp: | yes, the same way you would doing any other form of capture |
| [19:43:27] | wagnerrp: | create an account with schedules direct, and receive guide data from them |
| [19:44:11] | wagnerrp: | only you're going to have to deal with setting up an IR blaster, or something similar, to allow mythtv to control the STB |
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| [21:41:55] | Andy: | greets all |
| [21:42:12] | Andy: | I am trying to convert some mpeg2 to mpeg4 or h264 |
| [21:42:29] | Andy: | and mplayer, and mythavtest will play the videos ok |
| [21:42:53] | Andy: | but if I try to play them under videos it fails |
| [21:43:11] | Andy: | any hints why? |
| [21:43:26] | Andy: | oh, I'm on myth 0.25.2 |
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| [21:56:36] | sphery: | Andy: would require a lot more information--such as what "it fails" means (i.e. specific error messages/log output/...) |
| [21:56:48] | sphery: | that said, is there really a good reason to do this conversion? |
| [21:56:58] | Andy: | no good reason, no |
| [21:57:04] | Andy: | just "because" |
| [21:57:14] | sphery: | IMHO, the only good reason is if you have to convert the video because you have a limited device that can only support H.264 or something |
| [21:57:21] | Andy: | the mpeg2 files work ok, but at 7 gig I thought I could compress a little |
| [21:57:25] | sphery: | and you want to play back on that limite device, too |
| [21:57:35] | sphery: | if it's space savings, my recommendation is to get a new HDD :) |
| [21:58:19] | Andy: | no error, at least that I can see, on screen or in the log |
| [21:58:22] | sphery: | and/or use lossless MPEG-2 cutting to remove the commercials--which is about a 1/3 space savings (at virtually no CPU/electricity usage) right there |
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| [22:25:18] | tomlow: | Anyone have storage groups working with mythvideo and streaming it to a seperate front end machine? Or am I wrong to think SG's will work with mythvideo? |
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| [22:48:01] | sphery: | tomlow: have you seen and read: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_Library |
| [22:48:21] | sphery: | generally, SGs work fine with Video Library, with the one exception being encrypted DVDs |
| [22:48:43] | sphery: | but it does require proper setup--including not specifying a "local" videos directory in the settings area |
| [22:50:13] | tomlow: | Yes, I been through just about all I can read. Was on that page just now reading again. The problem is, I can see the video library fine from the front end, but when I hit play, it does nothing |
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| [22:55:01] | sphery: | tomlow: does it have errors in the frontend or backend logs? |
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| [22:56:49] | tomlow: | i am going to look right now. and no path settings are set on the seperate front end machine. also the storage groups do exist with mythtv user and group and full permissions. brb |
| [23:02:58] | tomlow: | sphery I get this spammed over and over again |
| [23:03:01] | tomlow: | Aug 14 15:12:37 bedroom mythfrontend[4915]: E ImageLoad mythuihelper.cpp:1378 (LoadScaleImage) MythUIHelper: LoadScaleImage(myth://Coverart@ 192.168.1.111:6543/8452_coverart.jpg) failed to load image |
| [23:03:34] | tomlow: | on the front end |
| [23:04:04] | sphery: | with the sapace in the URI?) |
| [23:04:34] | sphery: | as in "@<space>192" |
| [23:05:11] | sphery: | tomlow: and you do have the videos on a file system that the backend can see, right? |
| [23:05:19] | tomlow: | hmmm yes. copied it straight from the log |
| [23:05:51] | sphery: | if that space is there, I'd recommend checking your host name |
| [23:05:58] | sphery: | and IP address settings |
| [23:06:02] | tomlow: | the file system is local to the backend. and the frontend of that machine can play the files fine |
| [23:06:38] | tomlow: | ok, thank you. going to look at that now. thank you for some help :) |
| [23:07:48] | sphery: | good luck |
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| [23:15:12] | tomlow: | sphery |
| [23:15:29] | tomlow: | You are da MAN. Thank you so muchh |
| [23:15:57] | tomlow: | I only wasted 15 hours on this problem lol |
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| [23:57:28] | apollo: | does anyone know if I can define an external recorder/capture script easily? |
| [23:58:11] | apollo: | firewire woes continue, yet dvgrab is flawless. I'd like to just swap dvgrab in for whatever mythtv uses. |
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