| Friday, August 10th, 2012, 00:03 UTC | ||
| [00:03:46] | n1md4: | wagnerrp: do you know how I can get tmdb id's? |
| [00:04:19] | wagnerrp: | use the grabbers and the UI to search for them? |
| [00:04:40] | n1md4: | Just not sure where to look. |
| [00:04:53] | n1md4: | one of my videos is being particularly stubborn. |
| [00:05:14] | wagnerrp: | what is the name, as it appears in the video library? |
| [00:05:41] | n1md4: | attack-the-block-done not sure why it put the done bit there?! |
| [00:05:58] | wagnerrp: | likely because the dashes and 'done' are in the filename |
| [00:06:08] | n1md4: | right |
| [00:06:09] | wagnerrp: | so the question becomes why did you put them there |
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| [00:06:49] | n1md4: | I'm not sure :( |
| [00:07:13] | wagnerrp: | whatever you put in the filename, mythtv will think is part of the movie name, and will use when performing a search |
| [00:07:23] | n1md4: | okay. let me play |
| [00:07:51] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, it depends on whether the search API on themoviedb.org is capable of finding the proper movie |
| [00:07:57] | wagnerrp: | with the incorrect name |
| [00:10:37] | n1md4: | there isn't a list of id's though, for when fetching doesn't work? |
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| [00:11:31] | wagnerrp: | sure, on the tmdb site |
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| [00:14:02] | n1md4: | that's what I'm asking though, I didn't know how to find the ID, do you? :) |
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| [00:14:37] | wagnerrp: | you go to the tmdb site, you search for the movie manually, and the ID can be found in the address bar |
| [00:15:07] | n1md4: | Ah! wizard, thank you again! |
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| [00:34:57] | n1md4: | wagnerrp: I've an undocumented movie http://archive.org/details/MakeMine1948 is it possible to take the xml metadata and have mythtv read that? If so, what's the smartest way to do so? |
| [00:35:52] | wagnerrp: | you can create an mxml file, causing mythtv to import the data from the filesystem |
| [00:36:00] | wagnerrp: | better to add the movie to themoviedb.org so everyone benefits |
| [00:37:57] | n1md4: | Ah okay. |
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| [02:59:31] | k-man: | you know how TVs do this anti jitter thing so that, for instance, a fast panning scene looks less jerky? is that what is known as anti-aliasing? |
| [03:00:13] | k-man: | i'm only familiar with the term anti-aliasing when refering to adjusting the colour of pixels to make the edge of something look smoother |
| [03:00:21] | wagnerrp: | you mean how TVs do some funky temporal interpolation to make 24fps content appear to be something more than it is? |
| [03:00:28] | k-man: | wagnerrp, yes |
| [03:00:58] | k-man: | wagnerrp, my question is, do i need/want such a feature for a TV that will primarily be used for mythtv? |
| [03:01:59] | wagnerrp: | up to you, i personally dont really care for it |
| [03:05:35] | k-man: | thanks wagnerrp |
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| [03:32:21] | k-man: | how is .26 coming along? |
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| [03:35:42] | [R]: | k-man: read the mls and see |
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| [03:39:10] | k-man: | thanks, i do |
| [03:39:39] | k-man: | oh, i missed the "Beta" message fly by |
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| [05:16:21] | Beirdo: | 10:15pm, and I'm done work for the day.... I think my employer gets good value out of my WFH days |
| [05:18:06] | wagnerrp: | wfh? |
| [05:18:19] | wagnerrp: | work from home? |
| [05:22:02] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [05:22:25] | Beirdo: | I just tend to keep on trucking until I feel like stopping :) |
| [05:23:10] | Beirdo: | BTW, don't try to reuse a urllib.request object over several posts |
| [05:23:24] | Beirdo: | urllib2 that is (Py3.2) |
| [05:23:40] | Beirdo: | it doesn't properly recalculate the body content-length |
| [05:23:53] | Beirdo: | that took me HOURS to find last night |
| [05:24:00] | wagnerrp: | hehehe... general ajax flies around on a (war) rocket pack |
| [05:26:56] | Beirdo: | that said, I do like working with the snakey scripting language |
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| [06:38:29] | fafa88_: | WFH would be nice if I didn't have kids or the wife to pester me when I hang out at home :) |
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| [07:16:53] | ikrabbe: | hi, I'm trying to configure the fixes/0.26 branch, but the libmythavcodec version is detected from /usr/lib64 not from external/FFmpeg, where it is took from, so the version number during configuration is wrong. |
| [07:17:03] | ikrabbe: | does anyone know something about this bug? |
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| [16:01:32] | pppoe_dude: | hello |
| [16:03:40] | pppoe_dude: | i was talking about this yesterday, — so I made a home-made antenna (basically a copper loop) and was able to get a few channels on my tuner.. my question is, is there an ideal way to make an antenna rather than just a random loop? |
| [16:05:52] | wagnerrp: | a very brief search on the internet will turn up a few designs you can build |
| [16:06:12] | wagnerrp: | but to be honest, if you are near your towers, a cheap pair of bunny ears will likely do well enough |
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| [16:12:13] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: there are projects around to make UHF antennae. A VHF antenna probably isn't worth the effort, you can get them so cheaply. |
| [16:12:41] | neufeld: | I've got a UVSJ to join my two antennae before the input to the HDHomerun3. |
| [16:14:04] | neufeld: | I remember looking at this web page when I was having trouble getting a good UHF antenna. http://uhfhdtvantenna.blogspot.ca/ |
| [16:14:38] | neufeld: | The one I'm using now works well, but there are three gathering dust that I bought and then gave up on. |
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| [16:38:24] | fafa88_: | why do the frontend take so long (over 10 secs) to connect to the backend? |
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| [16:38:36] | fafa88_: | remote frontend. |
| [16:38:59] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt take more than a fraction of a second |
| [16:39:13] | wagnerrp: | what makes you think it is taking so long? |
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| [16:39:39] | fafa88_: | the frontend starts, you see the blackground, then 10secs later the menu shows up. |
| [16:39:59] | fafa88_: | i need to look at the logs to see what's going on. |
| [16:40:06] | wagnerrp: | its not merely waiting on the backend that whole time |
| [16:40:20] | fafa88_: | so it is doing some processing? |
| [16:40:39] | wagnerrp: | more likely its trying to access dbus, but dbus isnt running |
| [16:40:51] | wagnerrp: | or it could be trying and failing to send a machine profile to smolt |
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| [16:45:09] | RagingMind: | oh... I get a long delay on starting, but I figured it was just loading something or other. installing dbus may help? |
| [16:45:57] | wagnerrp: | i know theres some way to get it to not wait for dbus... i dont know what it is off hand |
| [16:47:34] | RagingMind: | I just checked... apparently I already have dbus running |
| [16:47:50] | fafa88_: | i also find it annoying that ubuntu delays the network startup, so X starts, launches, I have no network until a few secs later, i sleep for 15s before starting mythfrontend. |
| [16:48:23] | wagnerrp: | so "fix" ubuntu, so it brings up the network in a sensible order |
| [16:48:29] | wagnerrp: | i.e. scrap network manager |
| [16:49:28] | RagingMind: | or make the specific profile "system wide" then it'll connect a lot sooner |
| [16:50:08] | wagnerrp: | if you have no intention of changing your network, there is no reason to use something like network manager to make it easy to change your network |
| [16:50:27] | wagnerrp: | network manager is good for things like laptops, that are frequently changing things by being in different locations |
| [16:50:38] | wagnerrp: | it makes significantly less sense on a static desktop |
| [16:50:55] | wagnerrp: | but the one-size-fits-all approach forces its use |
| [16:51:13] | RagingMind: | wagnerrp, oh, I agree. just wanted to provide an alternative |
| [16:51:26] | fafa88_: | let me try install dbus and see if the mythfrontend delay goes away. |
| [16:51:57] | RagingMind: | fafa88_, if you have network manager and are on a default ubuntu, then you should already have dbus running |
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| [17:16:21] | neufeld: | fafa88_: Run the frontend from an xterm. It logs to the screen (at least the version I compiled does), including time stamps. I get a 2.5 second pause partway through, that's the only significant delay. I have a local frontend and a remote backend. The pause happens between "I Current MythTV Schema Version (DBSchemaVer): 1299" and "N Registering Internal as a media playback plugin." |
| [17:22:20] | pppoe_dude: | neufeld, so the one you are using is home made? |
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| [17:26:58] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: no, I didn't put one together, I might have, if my last one hadn't turned out to work excellently. An off-brand 4-bay outdoor antenna that cost about $10 from Factory Direct (a sort of remainder store for electronics). I bought a piece of PVC pipe and hung it from the ceiling in the corner of the room, and clamped the antenna to that. Because of the HDHomerun, it doesn't have to be anywhere near the |
| [17:26:58] | neufeld: | television, it's hanging in my home office, where nobody else has to look at it. |
| [17:27:35] | pppoe_dude: | ah |
| [17:27:54] | pppoe_dude: | neufeld, what is that type of antenna called exactly? and how many channels can you pick up approx. |
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| [17:29:32] | Twiggy2cents: | fafa88_, my frontend on one computer starts just like yours. |
| [17:29:47] | wagnerrp: | pppoe_dude: its commonly called "bunny ears" |
| [17:30:07] | Twiggy2cents: | Mine appears to be from my slow 1tb hdd that my system is on taking forever when trying to load the theme. |
| [17:30:15] | wagnerrp: | just an advanced, directional variant of it |
| [17:30:43] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: it's a Kross 4-bay outdoor antenna, GY-TVA003. Future Shop carries it now for $20, but I got the same one for about $10. http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/kross- . . . 0179935.aspx |
| [17:31:09] | wagnerrp: | multiple sets of bunny ears, oriented in a plane, phased together with delay lines for high directionality, with a rear reflector |
| [17:31:49] | awalls: | rabbit ears? |
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| [17:32:17] | wagnerrp: | a pair of V-oriented dipoles |
| [17:32:21] | wagnerrp: | with a balun |
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| [17:32:38] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: $15 now at Factory Direct, but I bought it just ahead of the DTV switchover in Canada, so I guess I got it before the demand went up. |
| [17:33:18] | wagnerrp: | where a "bay" antenna is just a pair of bunny ears per "bay", all phased together through a balun |
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| [17:35:03] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: your second question: how many channels do I pick up. I get all of the OTA UHF channels in the Ottawa area, with the exception of one religious channel that I can't be bothered to optimize. My tvfool report is: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper& . . . 878453792a85 |
| [17:36:00] | pppoe_dude: | neufeld, so you get all the ones in green? |
| [17:36:05] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: I can get everything down to the PBS stations, but I can't get those because of antenna pointing. There are more channels that aren't in the tvfool database. |
| [17:36:21] | neufeld: | Yes, everything in green, not bad because it's inside a house, not on a roof. |
| [17:36:29] | pppoe_dude: | nice |
| [17:36:59] | neufeld: | I'm also in the fortunate situation to be located almost exactly on the line between our two local transmitters, so I point the antenna at the harder-to-obtain tower, and pick up the other off the back lobe. |
| [17:37:18] | pppoe_dude: | with my copper wire I'm able to get around 15 channels I'min the GTA |
| [17:37:44] | neufeld: | Well, with the CN Tower, a coat hanger will bring in everything. If you want Buffalo, you might have to work at it. |
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| [17:38:34] | pppoe_dude: | lol |
| [17:38:38] | pppoe_dude: | I don't have a coat hanger! |
| [17:38:48] | wagnerrp: | got a clothes hanger? |
| [17:39:52] | pppoe_dude: | only plastic ones lol |
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| [17:48:23] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: note, however, that the Kross antenna is a UHF antenna. It has poor reception of VHF frequencies. That's anything at real frequency 13 or lower. In the US, most stations have moved away from VHF, I'm not sure what the situation is in Toronto. In Ottawa, Global is actually on VHF-6 at low radiated power, the very worst possible place to be, as it's FM-radio adjacent and in the VHF-low band. I can get |
| [17:48:23] | neufeld: | it with my rabbit ears, but there's no hope of getting that through a UHF antenna. Global's move to UHF has been approved, and work is being done on the tower North of Ottawa, but it'll be a few more months before they fix that absurd allocation. Our local CTV is also in VHF, but it's at 13, and I could get it even before I bought the UVSJ and rabbit-ears. |
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| [18:00:44] | pppoe_dude: | I think i can get ctv |
| [18:00:46] | pppoe_dude: | no global tho |
| [18:02:58] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: these sorts of issues are getting into the digitalhome.ca realm. There are lots of folks there who will have real-world experience bringing in channels in your area who can offer suggestions, assuming you can't get all your answers from the archives. |
| [18:04:49] | neufeld: | pppoe_dude: try starting at http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=129 |
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| [22:09:03] | paul__: | I'm having trouble getting a remote mythtv frontend working and have exhausted my googling attempts. |
| [22:09:18] | paul__: | MySQL is accessible remotely. |
| [22:09:45] | paul__: | I can get the localhost frontend to work. |
| [22:09:57] | paul__: | But not the two together for somereason... |
| [22:10:06] | paul__: | any tricks? |
| [22:11:26] | Sharky112065: | I forgot what I did to make it work. I followed a page on the wiki to modify mysql to allow remote access |
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| [22:12:45] | paul__: | Sharky112065: Yes, I seem to have remote access from the command line |
| [22:13:18] | paul__: | from the frontend machine I can connect and show tables |
| [22:13:50] | paul__: | I am on a mac for the frontend if it makes a difference. |
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| [22:44:35] | bill6502: | paul__: Do you mean that the frontend on your master backend works OK and that a remote frontend fails to connect? |
| [22:46:01] | paul__: | bill6502: yes |
| [22:46:50] | paul__: | bill6502: but mysql was working from the remote machine connect to the master backend |
| [22:47:14] | bill6502: | Just making sure. What version (e.g. 0.25) are you running on the MBE and remote FE. On the master backend, what IP addresses did you use? |
| [22:47:34] | paul__: | 0.25 on both |
| [22:47:55] | paul__: | I connected to localhost on the master backend... |
| [22:48:00] | paul__: | will retry with an ip |
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| [22:50:00] | bill6502: | Good, localhost won't work if you have a remote FE. And, the fields say IP address, hostnames aren't allowed (that's a bit of a lie.) |
| [22:50:46] | paul__: | bill6502: nono sorry with the local frontend I used localhost |
| [22:50:47] | paul__: | bill6502: |
| [22:50:59] | paul__: | bill6502: I tried the correct IP from the remote frontend |
| [22:52:10] | bill6502: | Can you give me the value in the 3 IP related field on the MBE (or do: select * from settings where value like '%serverip'; if you like)? |
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| [22:56:33] | bill6502: | I'm *not* suggesting you fire up IPv6, but look at the 1st box under: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enable_IPv6#IPv6_Configurationfor an example. |
| [22:56:41] | paul__: | ah ha... that is set to BackendServerIP=MasterServerIP=127.0.0.1 |
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| [22:57:42] | bill6502: | Did you upgrade to 0.25, or start off there? |
| [22:57:48] | paul__: | upgraded |
| [22:58:07] | paul__: | but never had a fully working system |
| [22:59:52] | paul__: | I had set that up initially but was screwing with a bunch of things and I guess I clobbere it. |
| [23:00:33] | bill6502: | I've seen this discussed before, the IP addresses get updated on conversion. If memory serves, when hostnames are used, the DB upgrade picks the 127... addresses. |
| [23:01:09] | paul__: | bill6502: thanks a lot. Connecting to the database now. But video is not up :( |
| [23:01:27] | paul__: | "Playback starting" I will hammer away at it. |
| [23:01:29] | paul__: | Thanks again. |
| [23:02:00] | bill6502: | What video card do you have? |
| [23:02:49] | paul__: | No I changed some settings. Looks like my channels are gone now. |
| [23:03:49] | bill6502: | OK, good luck. |
| [23:04:20] | paul__: | cheers |
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| [23:17:54] | apollo: | Hey! It's playing audio! |
| [23:21:11] | apollo: | No video output on Mac oS X Lion... :( |
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| [23:21:52] | tlhiv_laptop: | does anyone know if one can play a directory without a playlist in MythMusic in 0.26(beta) ... it is not available in 0.25, and that's the sole reason that I run 0.24 |
| [23:23:03] | tlhiv_laptop: | the whole idea of HAVING to have playlists is a bit forceful for me |
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