Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, August 4th, 2012, 00:00 UTC

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Memorex636:

when i change the channel say to channel 22

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Memorex636:

it locks and then just hangs there forever

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Memorex636:

never actual shows video

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[R]:

"it" locks you say?

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Memorex636:

yea it get a signal lock

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Memorex636:

put the picture never comes in

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[R]:

again with the its...

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Memorex636:

excuse me?

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[R]:

if you have a problem, you actually have to describe it

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[R]:

not just say "it" doesnt work

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Memorex636:

okay i am not able to view the upper channels

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Memorex636:

so for example live tv channel 22 tbs

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Memorex636:

I select channel 22 it tells me the show and tells me I have singal 100% | (LAMC) Lock

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Memorex636:

but there is no video or aduio the screen is blank with the expetcion if the channel menu

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Memorex636:

the whole frontend is locked up for me to get out of this state I have to change screens load up the backend and restart services

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wagnerrp:

neither mythtv nor linux uses hdcp for anything

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[R]:

and the logs say

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[R]:

and your tuner is

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[R]:

and your video source is

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wagnerrp:

if you see a 'C' in that set of letters, it means encrypted

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wagnerrp:

which means you're not going to be able to do anything with it unless you have a cablecard tuner

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Memorex636:

I do have a cable card

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Memorex636:

is it possible its not set up correctly

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Memorex636:

i have the ceton infinitv card

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wagnerrp:

can you access those channels using anything other than mythtv?

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Memorex636:

I used to via my cable box but thats not working for at all on any channel anymore

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wagnerrp:

i mean access those channels through the cablecard tuner with an application other than mythtv

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wagnerrp:

you didnt take the cablecard out of your cable box and plug it into your infinitv did you?

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Memorex636:

no when I dual booted to windows 7 i was unable to get to those channels as well

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Memorex636:

and it also gave me hdcp issues

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wagnerrp:

hdcp issues wont affect linux or mythtv

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Memorex636:

the cable card states its been validated andauthenticated

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Memorex636:

thats why i came back to tune linux build

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Seeker`:

hmm, getting duplicate recordings again. Same title, subtitle, description and program ID

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Memorex636:

so if the cable card isnt decoding then thats a cable company issue... so i need to give them a call

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justdave:

[R]: nope

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justdave:

cat: /dev/video0: Input/output error

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[R]:

is the vidoe and audio securely plugged in?

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justdave:

as far as I can tell. removed and re-plugged them

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justdave:

hmm, turned it off and back on, and dmesg shows it disconnecting, but not re-connecting

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** justdave tries actually removing the power **

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justdave:

well, now I don't get an i/o error, but it still doesn't light up and I have no output

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justdave:

[ 10.245083] hdpvr 2–4:1.0: firmware version 0x1e dated Mar 7 2012 08:25:15

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justdave:

[ 10.245092] hdpvr 2–4:1.0: untested firmware, the driver might not work.

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justdave:

wonder if I have a driver mismatch

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[R]:

no

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[R]:

but the newer firmware tend to suck more

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[R]:

but not the behavior your describing

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[R]:

if you unplug it

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[R]:

and reset the power

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[R]:

and plug it back in

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[R]:

and still see this

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[R]:

something be wrong

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justdave:

will it do that if it's not getting any video input?

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** justdave wonders if the cable company did something silly like disable the outputs on the cable box since I last had it working **

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[R]:

yup

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justdave:

I'm getting this:

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justdave:

[61080.624174] INFO: task khubd:23 blocked for more than 120 seconds.

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justdave:

everytime I power cycle it now

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justdave:

sounds like the kernel is confused

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[R]:

that doenst sound good

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[R]:

you should reboot

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** [R] powers off his computer and his hdpvr when idle **

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justdave:

meh. anything that can be done to stablize device names across reboots?

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justdave:

it came up as video1 after rebooting

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justdave:

(and the internal analog tuner got video0 and video2, it had 1 and 2 before)

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[R]:

udev rules

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[R]:

its on the wiki

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justdave:

that's gonna confuse the backend :)

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justdave:

cool

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** justdave looks **

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justdave:

ok, found it, got rules set up

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** justdave reboots again **

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justdave:

/dev/hdpvr0 will be a much more descriptive device name anyway :)

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justdave:

hey, now I got output on a cat

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justdave:

and I can watch livetv on it, yay.

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justdave:

ooh, color's nasty though

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justdave:

I remember reaing about that on the wiki though

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** justdave goes to look for the workaround for that one **

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justdave:

addong some v4l2-ctl call to your channel-change script IIRC

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[R]:

thts why i said the new firmware sucks

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fafa88_:

i love the HDHomerun so much, i don't need to deal with the kernel/drivers!

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justdave:

now I just need to screw with my storage speed.

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justdave:

made the mistake of doing RAID 1 on two drives on the new machine

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justdave:

great for data integrity, not so great for write speed

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fafa88_:

i used to use lvm, but I hated it.

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justdave:

although I'm starting to suspect my choppy video is the fault of my frontend box on the TV I'm testing from

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justdave:

cuz my wife says it works fine on the TV upstairs

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justdave:

I have the guide up on the screen, and arrowing down in the guide list makes the video in the corner pause for a moment

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fafa88_:

i have the same issue.

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fafa88_:

my mini mac intel isn't powerful enough that's what I thought.

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justdave:

hmm, don't think it's the cpu...

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justdave:

matching the cpu usage graphs from a terminal while it's doing stuff, and the cpu drops to almost nothing while the video is stuttered

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justdave:

cpu jumps back to 40% or so when the video resumes

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justdave:

it's almost like when it pulls data from mysql it interrupts the video stream

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justdave:

hmm, a 1TB SATA SSD is only $2500.00

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justdave:

hah

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fafa88_:

gigabit networks are great for copying large files around, i love it!

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justdave:

yeah, all gigabit here

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fafa88_:

27GB in under 10 mins!

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fafa88_:

i don't believe in SSD.

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fafa88_:

so how do I do a lossless transcode with commercial cut

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bengurson:

Is there a known problem with mythtv 0.25 changing inputs between multiple cards. I have an issue I can't solve with this, starting from when I upgraded from 0.24.

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bengurson2:

Is there a known problem with mythtv 0.25 changing inputs between multiple cards. I have an issue I can't solve with this, starting from when I upgraded from 0.24.

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bobweaver:

Hello there is there a way to export metadata (like in xbmc) into xml ?

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[R]:

no, whats the point of that

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bobweaver:

for thous that t=do not know in xbmc you click settings-->video-->export,library , and it drops all the fanart and metadata in the folder that the video is in

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bobweaver:

{R} so that I can have extrenal programs read it

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[R]:

like?

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bobweaver:

a front end that I am making for my myth tv

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[R]:

you should be using the mythtv xml protocol then

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bobweaver:

I want to drop xbmc all togeather this is why I ask

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[R]:

and takl to the gbackedn

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[R]:

like you are supposed to

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dekarl:

bobweaver: why would a frontend use file access instead of the service api?

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bobweaver:

because the way that I wrote and re-wrote python lens

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bobweaver:

let me get you video to explain

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bobweaver:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca4XtZ70RPI << that is kinda old but shows how I am using the .mfo files (xml)

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bobweaver:

I could read data live over the line also programing in qt-quick

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[R]:

if you make a frotnend

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[R]:

and you want it to actually work

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[R]:

you use the services api

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bobweaver:

well QT backend

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[R]:

end of story

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bobweaver:

[R] what if there is no info in the file ? do I read and write sql statements sorry I am new to myth ut not to c++

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[R]:

what?

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dekarl:

bobweaver: is a lens something like a scope? http://www.mythbuntu.org/unity-scope-mythtv

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bobweaver:

dekarl, yes

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bobweaver:

I am also hacking away at tgm thingy there

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bobweaver:

but I have to compile myth again

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bobweaver:

because of dependenceys

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bobweaver:

(on the lens/and scope )

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bobweaver:

I wrote mythweb into the dash itsself and of cource there are butons to fire it up. but I want to drop xbmc scrapers and what not and I figure that myth has them but where are they stored how do I retrive maybe write a sql script if there stred in tables that is

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bobweaver:

stred|stored

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[R]:

as BOTH of us told you

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[R]:

you use the services api

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[R]:

to talk to myth

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bobweaver:

I know how to use the api's I can write my own BUT why re-invent the wheel and what does talk to myth mean ?

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dekarl:

thats the difference between xbmc and mythtv... we have a backend that handles everything for us. all tools/frontends should just talk to the backend

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bobweaver:

xbmc uses sqllight

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dekarl:

xbmc has a hard time running more then one box in a setup

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[R]:

bobweaver: no one is telling you to write your own anything

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bobweaver:

Yes there are many many reasons why I choose myth over xbmc plz keep in mind that I am NOT a ubuntu dev I am just a duse that is making a interface that he likes

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bobweaver:

duse|dude

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bobweaver:

Like for the OS not for myth but I want to tie all togeather

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bobweaver:

I just what to know which is going to be faster 1) write sql statements that all metadata from mysql (if that is where it is stored ) 2) export the meta data that is in sql and just read from the files 3) keep using xbmc

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[R]:

bobweaver: how many times do we have to tell you

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[R]:

USE

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[R]:

THE

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[R]:

SERVICES

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[R]:

API

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bobweaver:

I am sorry I dont nderstand what you are saying. Do you know of a wiki page or something ?

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dekarl:

bobweaver: 1) will break more often then not 2) does not work across multiple systems 3) see 2... just use the API, its been written for exactly the things you want to do

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dekarl:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Services_API

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bobweaver:

thanks

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dekarl:

bobweaver: here is a video of a program that uses the service api http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQDLTSucxM

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bobweaver:

thanks dekarl seems cool know if that is opensource ?

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dekarl:

yes I know, no its not

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dekarl:

but there is work in progress on an open source program for android devices

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dekarl:

bobweaver: https://github.com/MythTV-Android/mythtv-for-android

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bobweaver:

dekarl, my thingy will run on linux android meegoo symbian well anything that runs nix and C++

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bobweaver:

thanks for the link

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bobweaver:

that looks to be java cool stuff :)

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bobweaver:

thanks again everyone. looks like the api is working great !

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messerting:

Hi, i'm trying to do normal SD playback on an Thinkpad SL500 (2GHz dualcore) with Intel mobile 4 graphics. Is there anything I can do to make it play smoothly, or is it a no-go?

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[R]:

you're using xv? or opengl?

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[R]:

what playback profile

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messerting:

[R]: I've tested all in the guided setup. Seems all of them fall back to the same. Currently use "Normal" (0.25/fixes from git)

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[R]:

use slim

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messerting:

Tyring that now, but it is still very bad – stops for half a second or so quite often

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messerting:

It's a bit strange, 'cause top says mythfrontend only uses 30–60% cpu

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messerting:

could it be powermanagement/throttling?

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messerting:

sorry, SD seems to play ok in the test, but an football match does not.

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messerting:

I guess it is the panning

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messerting:

Interestingly, the playback (from the backend) is much smoother when I use the wireless network, rather than the onboard NIC

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messerting:

The NIC is Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02), maybe there is some powermanagement I can turn off

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** wagnerrp hates it when people complain on the wiki about the wiki being incomplete **

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richard_:

Evening, anyone about?

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richard_:

Never used this before

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** tgm4883 tumbleweeds **

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richard_:

Can anyone enlighten me how to use Storage groups for mythvideo

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richard_:

Can play them on FE/BE combo, but not on remote frontend

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Beirdo:

iMovie's being a pain in my buttocks

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Beirdo:

Bah, will be rebooting, I think.

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Beirdo:

generating thumbnails...

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Beirdo:

just how long should this take, I wonder

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Beirdo:

OK, that's a bit better

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Seeker`:

Beirdo: whatcha doing with iovie?

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Beirdo:

trying to edit video

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Beirdo:

from my camera

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Beirdo:

my camera is decidedly not Scottish

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Beirdo:

but what do I expect. it was cheap.

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