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[00:33:43] | Twiggy2cents: | I want to call my cable company and ask them if I can get JUST AMC and HBO. I like my OTA channels but I want walking dead and weeds.... |
[00:34:43] | Twiggy2cents: | I have a feeling the answer is an immediate no |
[00:35:07] | [R]: | of course not |
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[00:57:41] | skd5aner: | yea, almost no cable companies support an a la carte option... the option is being kicked around the FCC though |
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[03:01:09] | saintdev: | Is there a way to tell myth to allways run mythfilldatabase tomorrow, like 0.24 used to do? SD keeps suggesting times that are 2 days in the future. |
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[03:09:46] | [R]: | it runs everyday for me |
[03:09:50] | [R]: | you could just cron it |
[03:11:02] | [R]: | Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2012-07–22 01:07:20 and ended on 2012-07–22 01:07:20. Successful. |
[03:11:02] | [R]: | Suggested next mythfilldatabase run: 2012-07–23 01:50. |
[03:11:37] | saintdev: | Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2012-07–22 20:44:40 and ended on 2012-07–22 20:45:33. Successful. |
[03:11:37] | saintdev: | Suggested next mythfilldatabase run: 2012-07–24 00:48. |
[03:12:17] | saintdev: | that's after I ran it manually today otherwise it was 7/21 18:00 and suggested was 7/23 17:54 |
[03:12:47] | [R]: | weird |
[03:12:56] | [R]: | you could post on the sd forums |
[03:17:15] | saintdev: | yeah, i was going to do that anyway. I was just hoping there was some way to prevent it from happening on my end like 0.24 used to. |
[03:17:36] | [R]: | the checkbox doesnt exist anymoer? |
[03:17:40] | [R]: | like i said, just cron it |
[03:18:09] | saintdev: | i would rather use SD's suggested times, so as not to hammer their servers |
[03:18:46] | [R]: | well it works here |
[03:18:47] | [R]: | so |
[03:18:48] | [R]: | ... |
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[09:54:55] | acidcool: | Moinsen |
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[09:56:48] | acidcool: | Kann mir einer der experten hier evtl. helfen? Habe das Theme geaendert und nun bekomme ich beim starten des Frontends (und bei config des Backends) nurnoch einen schwarzen Bildschirm angezeigt. mythfrontend --reset habe ich schon versucht, leider erfolglos. |
[09:56:55] | peitolm: | If I have 2 inputs where the channes on one is a subset of the channes on the other (DVB-S vs DVB-S2), what's the "correct" way to do it, setup a whole new channel list or can I mask -S2 channels from oen of the cards |
[09:57:21] | peitolm: | acidcool: we generally speak english in this channel |
[09:58:08] | acidcool: | kay, i didn`t know |
[09:59:10] | peitolm: | np |
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[10:02:23] | acidcool: | Can me one of the experts here help? I changed the Theme and now I`ll get only a back screen at start of the Frontend (and with config the Backends). mythfrontend --reset I already tried, unfortunately unsuccessfully. |
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[10:03:33] | peitolm: | nothing in the log? |
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[10:07:02] | SteveGoodey: | I'm no expert but from the wiki mythfrontend -O Theme=blue but that's a temp change only. From http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Override_settings |
[10:08:08] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:75 (Create) OpenGL: Sync to VBlank is enabled (good!) |
[10:08:08] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: E CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:877 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: Multi-texturing not supported. Certain OpenGL features will not work |
[10:08:08] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: E CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:887 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: GL_EXT_vertex_array extension not supported. This may not work |
[10:08:08] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:932 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: OpenGL vendor : |
[10:08:08] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:934 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: OpenGL renderer: |
[10:08:08] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:936 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: OpenGL version : |
[10:08:08] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:938 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: Max texture size: 512 x 512 |
[10:08:09] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:940 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: Max texture units: 0 |
[10:08:09] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:942 (InitFeatures) OpenGL: Direct rendering: Yes |
[10:08:10] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:127 (Init) OpenGL: Initialised MythRenderOpenGL |
[10:08:10] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:20 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: I CoreContext schemawizard.cpp:117 (Compare) Current MythTV Schema Version (DBSchemaVer): 1299 |
[10:08:12] | acidcool: | Jul 23 11:49:21 HTPC mythfrontend[2348]: W CoreContext themeinfo.cpp:74 (parseThemeInfo) ThemeInfo: Unable to open themeinfo.xml for /usr/share/mythtv/themes/BlackCurves-OSD/themeinfo.xml |
[10:10:46] | acidcool: | With mythfrontend -O Theme=blue I also get get a black sreen. :-( |
[10:16:19] | SteveGoodey: | How about mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt I'm just getting these off google. |
[10:17:02] | acidcool: | If I read the log right the Theme-files are missed. Where kan I get them? |
[10:18:50] | acidcool: | mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt was not the solution, unfortunately |
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[10:22:29] | SteveGoodey: | You can download some from here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Themes What distro are you using? |
[10:23:26] | acidcool: | mythbuntu 12.04 AMD64 |
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[10:28:10] | SteveGoodey: | What does dpkg -l mythtv-theme-mythbuntu give? See if that theme is installed. |
[10:29:27] | acidcool: | ii mythtv-theme-m 2:0.25.0+fixes The mythbuntu MythTV Theme |
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[10:36:44] | Steve-Goodey: | acidcool: Sorry about that, PC just locked solid. |
[10:39:27] | Steve-Goodey: | acidcool: Are you able to run Mythbuntu Control Center and see what themes are shown in there? |
[10:41:58] | acidcool: | where can I find the Theme there? |
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[10:44:31] | Steve-Goodey: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/wiki/mythbuntu-control-centre-mcc fifth one down on the right? |
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[10:46:30] | acidcool: | My Control-Centre doesn`t show the option "Themes" |
[10:55:15] | Steve-Goodey: | Don't think I'm helping here. You might want to try #ubuntu-mythtv. Sorry. |
[10:56:10] | acidcool: | np, thank you for your help. |
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[14:06:22] | Lomion0815: | Is there a way to pass the first and the last cutpoint as parameter to the JOBQUEUE? |
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[14:14:29] | sphery: | Lomion0815: none that I know of. pretty sure you'd need to use the python bindings to query the cuts inside your job script |
[14:16:53] | Lomion0815: | Do you know of a python script I can use? |
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[14:36:06] | sphery: | Lomion0815: might be something that's useful at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Python_Scripts (check the transcoding ones, especially) |
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[15:31:09] | rooter7: | I see that 0.25 is released. Has anyone updated the patch for the R5000-HD? |
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[15:45:01] | wagnerrp: | the R5000 is not a supported device |
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[15:48:22] | rooter7: | Sure. But I'm asking whether anyone has updated the patch? |
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[16:54:16] | Sharky112065: | When looking at the guide (all channels) my channels are ordered ... 7,8,9,10,11,111,12,13, ... 104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113 ... And before I set the callsign the same so it would merge the channels in the guide (because I have two tuner types HDHOMERUN, and InfiniTV 4) it was 7,8,9,10,11,111,12, ... 104,104,105,105,106,106,107,107,108,109,109,110,111,112,113,113,114 ... Any |
[16:54:16] | Sharky112065: | way to get 111 back in order? |
[16:54:38] | Sharky112065: | let me correct that |
[16:54:51] | Sharky112065: | When looking at the guide (all channels) my channels are ordered ... 7,8,9,10,11,111,12,13, ... 104,105,106,107,108,109,110,112,113 ... And before I set the callsign the same so it would merge the channels in the guide (because I have two tuner types HDHOMERUN, and InfiniTV 4) it was 7,8,9,10,11,111,12, ... 104,104,105,105,106,106,107,107,108,109,109,110,111,112,113,113,114 ... Any way |
[16:54:51] | Sharky112065: | to get 111 back in order? |
[16:55:33] | Sharky112065: | Channel 111 is the problem |
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[20:05:52] | wookey: | I've set up a new myth box (combined front and backend) and I've got channels listed in the frontend but it's not getting any programme data |
[20:06:28] | wookey: | I can watch TV in kaffeine, so the drivers and firmward and so on is all working |
[20:06:42] | wookey: | This is in the UK using a USB DBV-T device |
[20:07:08] | wookey: | Is there a way to poke a prgramme data update? |
[20:07:27] | wookey: | also I can;t watch TV in myth, it just returns imediately from the menu item |
[20:07:30] | wagnerrp: | are you using radiotimes? or just pulling EIT data? |
[20:07:36] | wookey: | pulling EIT data |
[20:07:39] | wagnerrp: | can we see your backend logs? |
[20:08:16] | wookey: | OK. will pastebin |
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[20:10:36] | wookey: | wagnerrp: OK. here's the whole thing: http://wookware.org/files/mythbackend.log |
[20:11:08] | wookey: | looks like the date on the box is wrong |
[20:11:21] | wagnerrp: | you built off the tarball? |
[20:11:34] | wookey: | nope, this is straight out of debian-multimedia |
[20:14:29] | wookey: | when I specify a storgae dir does that need to be a full path, or a relative one for the mythtv user? |
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[20:19:25] | wagnerrp: | full path, accessible for write by the backend |
[20:19:42] | wagnerrp: | i dont see anything bad in these logs since the last restart of the backend |
[20:19:45] | wagnerrp: | could i see your frontend logs? |
[20:23:50] | wookey: | Where do they appear? I don't see anything in /var/log/mythtv |
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[20:24:10] | wagnerrp: | if you ran it manually from the terminal, they will only exist in the terminal |
[20:24:16] | wagnerrp: | see --help for logging options |
[20:24:26] | wookey: | aha. got it |
[20:24:35] | wookey: | I havd a relative path for the storage dir |
[20:24:36] | ThinkGNU-: | What is a good card digital tuner card that doesn't require non-free drivers? |
[20:24:59] | wookey: | and then I set /home/mythtv/TV, but in fact the home dir is /var/lib/mythtv |
[20:25:12] | wookey: | give it a dir that works and suddenly I have some EIT info |
[20:25:52] | wagnerrp: | ThinkGNU-: wyoming? |
[20:26:07] | ThinkGNU-: | yes |
[20:26:16] | wagnerrp: | looking for broadcast? cable? satellite? |
[20:26:23] | ThinkGNU-: | broadcast |
[20:27:00] | wagnerrp: | the HVR-1250 has an open source driver, built into any kernel in the last several years, and does not need a binary firmware |
[20:27:16] | ThinkGNU-: | THAT is exactly what I was looking for :-D |
[20:27:38] | wagnerrp: | or, the HDHomeRun technically operates as a closed source system, but its network-attached, and the interface library is open source built into mythtv |
[20:28:10] | ThinkGNU-: | I'm going to check out the HVR-1250 |
[20:28:30] | devinheitmueller: | The 1250 does require firmware for the audio. |
[20:28:32] | devinheitmueller: | (analog audio) |
[20:28:43] | wagnerrp: | yes, but analog is not yet supported under linux |
[20:28:51] | wagnerrp: | (or at least wasnt the last time i checked) |
[20:28:54] | devinheitmueller: | I've got it working, but it's still got a couple of issues. |
[20:28:58] | wagnerrp: | ah |
[20:29:01] | ThinkGNU-: | Well I'll just stick to the digital then |
[20:29:02] | devinheitmueller: | I submitted a bunch of patches upstream for 3.5. |
[20:29:11] | ThinkGNU-: | I just want to avoid non-free drivers and binary blobs |
[20:29:51] | devinheitmueller: | There's still one issue related to the stream not always starting up, but I'm pretty sure it only effects the boards with encoders such as the 1850. |
[20:29:56] | devinheitmueller: | 1800/1850. |
[20:30:31] | devinheitmueller: | All that said, if you're going to analog, spend a couple of extra bucks and get the board with the encoder – much better than the 1250 which is just a framegrabber for analog. |
[20:31:41] | ThinkGNU-: | the 1800/1850 has analog but might not work reliably all the time? |
[20:31:58] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: I made a ton of progress on the cx2388x drivers. It went from 0% to 90% in the last patch series I did. |
[20:32:05] | wagnerrp: | but if you're just doing broadcast TV, you really have little need for analog |
[20:32:17] | devinheitmueller: | ThinkGNU-: there's one outstanding bug that causes streaming to not start sometimes (it's some sort of race condition) |
[20:32:18] | wagnerrp: | analog stations are still around in the states, but they're rare and low power |
[20:32:32] | wagnerrp: | analog is really only useful these days for capture off a cable or satellite box |
[20:33:03] | ThinkGNU-: | Yeah they are. I've built an antenna here with varying degrees of success so I think I'll be able to get pretty much all digital channels |
[20:33:21] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: actually, there's a new hardware rev of the 1250 from what im currently using |
[20:33:24] | ThinkGNU-: | There are a couple of analog channels but I'd have to go through a lot of work just to get them so I'm not worried about them and I don't do cable/satellite either |
[20:33:36] | wagnerrp: | ive never had any trouble with mine, but ive heard there were some issues with the HVR-1255? |
[20:33:49] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: have you tried a recent kernel? I think I nailed down the analog issues with the 1255. |
[20:33:50] | wagnerrp: | and then there was the whole lspci HDPVR-1250 debacle.... |
[20:34:03] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: Yeah, that's just a dumb entry in the lspci database. |
[20:34:15] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: no, ive got one of the first rev 1250s (or second?)... from like 2007 |
[20:34:26] | devinheitmueller: | I wrote down all the subvendor/subids when I was debugging, I just need to submit updated entries. |
[20:34:38] | wagnerrp: | im just asking if someone buying a new one would have any problems |
[20:34:49] | devinheitmueller: | Oh pardon, I thought you said you *have* the new version. |
[20:34:54] | ThinkGNU-: | So this is what I want for digital only then? http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch.asp?scri . . . 20hd/%20ntsc |
[20:35:09] | wagnerrp: | dual tuner? |
[20:35:19] | wagnerrp: | not hardly |
[20:35:32] | devinheitmueller: | The 1255 is in better shape. The oldest version of the 1250 has an unsupported analog tuner, so I only got the composite and s-video working. |
[20:35:45] | devinheitmueller: | The 1250 has a single tuner that can be used in analog or digital mode. |
[20:35:55] | wagnerrp: | also called a "hybrid" tuner |
[20:36:09] | devinheitmueller: | Also bear in mind that many sites will list 1250s but the actual board is a 1255. |
[20:36:17] | wagnerrp: | cards like the -1600 and -1800/-1850 are a true dual tuner |
[20:36:26] | wagnerrp: | meaning they have independent analog and digital hardware |
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[20:36:40] | wagnerrp: | most digital tuners are just hybrid tuners, so they can do either, but only one at a time |
[20:37:03] | ThinkGNU-: | where is the best place to buy the 1250 you're recommending? |
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[20:37:25] | wagnerrp: | and then youve got combinations of the two terms like a HVR-2250, which has two tuners, both capable of analog or digital operation |
[20:37:34] | devinheitmueller: | Assuming you're buying from a supplier that doesn't sell ancient inventory, you should be fine. |
[20:37:45] | ThinkGNU-: | can you recommend one? |
[20:38:15] | devinheitmueller: | newegg? |
[20:38:48] | ThinkGNU-: | Okay, I'll try there. I just didn't know how their stock was in terms of old or new. |
[20:38:49] | wagnerrp: | http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1187-WinTV-HV . . . rds=HVR-1250 |
[20:39:26] | saintdev: | i would think newegg would have a fairly high turnover compared to most anyone else (except maybe amazon) |
[20:39:27] | wagnerrp: | looks like that might be the OEM version that doesnt have a remote |
[20:40:31] | ThinkGNU-: | good point |
[20:40:51] | wagnerrp: | this is just going to be a single combination machine? |
[20:41:13] | ThinkGNU-: | As in one machine doing all the work? |
[20:41:17] | wagnerrp: | correct |
[20:41:20] | ThinkGNU-: | yes |
[20:41:27] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to a dedicated backend, with multiple remote frontends |
[20:41:39] | wagnerrp: | or even multiple backends |
[20:41:52] | devinheitmueller: | I'm not sure how well the IR actually works. |
[20:41:53] | ThinkGNU-: | well, I might store on the network but that's it |
[20:42:01] | devinheitmueller: | I focused my testing on the analog support. |
[20:42:14] | ThinkGNU-: | has anyone used a Wii remote at all? |
[20:42:20] | ThinkGNU-: | I mean to control the system |
[20:42:21] | wagnerrp: | last i checked, lirc did not support it... but then that was several years ago |
[20:42:26] | wagnerrp: | the Wii is just bluetooth |
[20:42:36] | wagnerrp: | so you can use it with any bluetooth donglt |
[20:42:39] | wagnerrp: | dongle |
[20:42:46] | ThinkGNU-: | does it work well with MythTV? |
[20:42:57] | ThinkGNU-: | I've never built a Myth box. This will be my first |
[20:43:03] | wagnerrp: | there are applications available to translate wiimote commands into something more commonly accessible, like a mouse cursor |
[20:43:11] | ThinkGNU-: | awesome |
[20:43:17] | wagnerrp: | but mythtv does not support it directly |
[20:43:43] | ThinkGNU-: | that makes sense |
[20:44:24] | ThinkGNU-: | Very good. I'm going to shop for some other parts here. I appreciate all the help in suggesting a card to fit my needs. Thanks guys |
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[20:53:25] | Sharky112065: | When looking at the guide (all channels) my channels are ordered ... 7,8,9,10,11,111,12,13, ... 104,105,106,107,108,109,110,112,113 ... And before I set the callsign the same so it would merge the channels in the guide (because I have two tuner types HDHOMERUN, and InfiniTV 4) it was 7,8,9,10,11,111,12, ... 104,104,105,105,106,106,107,107,108,109,109,110,111,112,113,113,114 ... Any way |
[20:53:25] | Sharky112065: | to get 111 back in order? |
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[21:06:43] | Sharky112065: | guess ill have to file a ticket. Though I think it is a database issue. |
[21:09:44] | Seeker`: | Sharky112065: the problem is that it is 11,111,12? |
[21:10:06] | Seeker`: | Sharky112065: tried having a look at that channel in the settings of mythweb? |
[21:18:12] | Sharky112065: | Seeker`: in mythweb they are all in the proper sequence |
[21:18:50] | Seeker`: | Sharky112065: in mythweb/settings/tv/channels ? |
[21:19:03] | Sharky112065: | Seeker`: ill look at the settings part of mythweb though as you suggested. |
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[21:23:02] | Sharky112065: | Seeker`: mythweb settings shows both 111 channels and they are in the correct order |
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[21:33:22] | Sharky112065: | I only have 7 duplicate channels as I use the HDHOMERUN'S for local broadcast stations only. So there are duplicate channels (104,104,105,105,106,106,107,107,109,109,111,111,113,113) only 111 is out of order |
[21:33:38] | Seeker`: | no idea :/ |
[21:33:42] | peitolm: | anyone seen this before ' FE_GET_INFO ioctl failed (/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0)' 'eno: Device not configured (6)' is on the console, and i get 'Could not get info for card /dev/dvb/adap' when trying to configure the card in mythtv-setup. I'm running mythtv 0.25 on freebsd trying to talk to a USB DVB-S2 adapter |
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[21:34:24] | wagnerrp: | this is webcamd? |
[21:35:22] | peitolm: | yep |
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[21:43:22] | peitolm: | i can scan and tune with w_scan and i beleive i can record (mplayer didn't throw a wobbly on it) |
[21:45:49] | Sharky112065: | guess ill file the ticket. I had the same problem even after a database wipe and start from fresh, so it must be a bug in the sorting code. |
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[21:49:30] | Sharky112065: | I can get by with it the way it is, but it is bugging the hell out of me (OCD). |
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[21:53:52] | peitolm: | heh, looks like the pctv2452e driver might be broken |
[21:54:46] | justinh: | some of these products couldn't get much snappier names :-P |
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[22:00:08] | justinh: | so... somebody at work got a raspberry pi thing. and they did put XBMC on it. And it was distinctly (probably) the best NMT type experience you could have for the money but I still won't be rushing to replace my frontend |
[22:01:33] | wagnerrp: | but the money being $35... so that isnt saying much |
[22:02:00] | justinh: | the UI looks like it's still a bit too much for the poor little thing |
[22:02:30] | justinh: | and that's with the dirty region redrawing enabled |
[22:13:54] | Beirdo: | Metallica – Search and Destroy... mmmmm |
[22:14:22] | Beirdo: | this is from before they turned into a bunch of jerks |
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[22:21:39] | rumblebumble: | Just wanted to chat about the best way to setup my drive. I have a hardware raid card. I want to be able to limit my disk space in my recording/livetv directories. Just wondering what people are doing |
[22:22:10] | rumblebumble: | Does anyone use quotas in XFS |
[22:24:06] | rumblebumble: | I like the flexibility of LVM |
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[22:55:26] | saintdev: | wtf is up with SD's suggested next times |
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[22:56:32] | saintdev: | the past couple of days it's picked times 2 days in the future, today it picks a time 6 hours later :/ |
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[23:43:54] | wookey: | what do I have to do to get the 'halt' and 'reboot' options to appear somewhere in the frontend UI? |
[23:44:08] | wookey: | I used to get them on exit from the frontend on 0.21 |
[23:44:29] | wagnerrp: | if you define commands for them, they should show up in the exit menu |
[23:44:33] | wookey: | And I found a place to fill in which commands to use |
[23:45:16] | wookey: | OK, so just filling those in should do it |
[23:46:18] | wookey: | hmm. I wonder why it isn't. I just get 'no' and 'yes, exit now' |
[23:47:08] | wookey: | A permission or path thing perhaps. if '/sbin/halt' and '/sbin/reboot' aren;t on the path of the mythtv user |
[23:48:00] | wagnerrp: | is this a dedicated frontend? or is there a backend running on the same machine? |
[23:48:10] | wookey: | backend on same machine |
[23:48:32] | wagnerrp: | i dont know much about that area of the code, it may not allow you to shut down if it will affect a backend |
[23:49:03] | wookey: | hmmm. I suppose if I could get the auto-wakeup stuff to work then it would sleep itself |
[23:49:16] | wookey: | that never worked on the old hardware so we got out of habit of using it |
[23:50:16] | wagnerrp: | there is a new mode in 0.25 that allows the frontend to go idle and disconnect from the backend |
[23:50:19] | wagnerrp: | that must be enabled |
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[23:50:33] | wagnerrp: | normal behavior is for any active frontend to block the backend from auto-shutdown |
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[23:51:34] | wookey: | OK. I see there is a mythshutdown command which has lock, unlock, check etc options |
[23:51:54] | wagnerrp: | that is independent, and intended for use with mythwelcome |
[23:52:24] | wookey: | BTW every time I tune to TV or start a recording it sets volume to 'loud', rather than the last volume setting. |
[23:52:45] | wookey: | I used to get whatever it was last set to |
[23:52:55] | wookey: | which was better |
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