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[00:28:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | sentry02_, firebug was saying the main page was not loaded yet. when I looked at the html source, it stopped right after the gest starring line, which is also the last thing I'm seeing on the page. are you seeing similar? |
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[00:49:24] | skd5aner: | trying to grab a backtrace and log of a mfe segfault when starting livetv – any recommendations for verbose levels for the logs? |
[00:50:24] | sentry02_: | Captain_Murdoch, the page remains blank for the duration, then all of it appears at once. Nothing is missing, all the content is there. |
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[01:08:30] | JohnP789: | I'd like to use MythTV's UPnP server to send photos to my DLNA TV. I currently have Recordings, Videos, and Music, and those work. Is there a way to add Images? |
[01:08:47] | [R]: | the photos doesnt do upnp yet |
[01:10:02] | JohnP789: | [R], I see. Is it possible to run a second UPnP server, like ushare or something, on the same box & network interface as MythTV's? Or, are there ports that one or the other needs to claim? |
[01:10:17] | [R]: | probably would conflict, who knows |
[01:10:19] | [R]: | give it a try |
[01:10:56] | JohnP789: | I'm not even clear which ports MythTV's UPnP server is using. There's some kind of multicast magic involved somewhere. |
[01:15:24] | wagnerrp: | you can disable mythtv's UPNP server and run your own |
[01:15:46] | wagnerrp: | but there are generally troubles attempting to run multiple UPNP servers on the same machine |
[01:15:58] | wagnerrp: | i can be done, but i don't think mythtv's server is designed to allow that |
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[02:01:09] | ballPointPenguin: | Anybody have success with lirc on Ubuntu 12.04? Did you need to compile or did you just use provided packages? |
[02:10:42] | fafa88: | ballPointPenguin: Yes, I got mine working last night with a mini mac remote. |
[02:11:17] | fafa88: | ballPointPenguin: I just used the built packages. |
[02:11:57] | fafa88: | ballPointPenguin: the only issue was the .lircrc file was sending the wrong keys to mythtv, so I had to change it. |
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[02:13:06] | ballPointPenguin: | cool, fafa88 |
[02:14:29] | ballPointPenguin: | A lot of the 'literature' online on mythTV configuration seems pretty dated. Rather than fall down those rabbit holes I'm discovering that things work more smoothly now than they used to. |
[02:15:08] | fafa88: | ballPointPenguin: yup the info is really dated. I find it with most things related to ubuntu also. |
[02:15:41] | fafa88: | ballPointPenguin: However, you should fix up what you find wrong so that the next person can find hints. |
[02:16:21] | fafa88: | ballPointPenguin: I spent hours on lirc only to figure out that it was using a different usb port, stumbled on some post on some obscure site. |
[02:18:54] | ballPointPenguin: | Yeah. I should fulfill my Karma by posting an updated How-To for the noobs. |
[02:20:38] | fafa88: | ballPointPenguin: mythtv should host an annual cleanup docs day. |
[02:21:53] | wagnerrp: | feel free to have at it... |
[02:22:03] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO or http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Index |
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[02:22:44] | wagnerrp: | the ones on the main page are a bit dated |
[02:23:16] | wagnerrp: | the plan was they would get moved to the wiki, and then the wiki ones would be periodically rendered to a hard copy and put back on the main page |
[02:23:25] | wagnerrp: | the second half hasnt yet happened |
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[02:53:00] | Sharky112065: | good luck with documenting lirc. It is so different one Linux distro to the next and one kernel to the next... |
[02:55:13] | wagnerrp: | ideally, the bulk of lirc gets stuffed into the kernel, and everyone just uses X events |
[02:55:30] | wagnerrp: | but until X events are larger than one byte, thats not going to be a possibility |
[02:56:12] | Sharky112065: | Only on 3.x kernels When I was on 2.x kernel it was not in the kernel. |
[02:56:30] | Sharky112065: | It was a verry confusing ride for sure. |
[02:56:44] | wagnerrp: | by that you mean, only on >= 2.6.37 kernels |
[02:57:11] | Sharky112065: | I think I was on 2.6.35 then went to 3.something and it was in the kernel. |
[02:57:48] | Sharky112065: | I'm a bit drunk right now, so probably not explaining it well enough |
[02:59:52] | Sharky112065: | Debian was a mess, Ihad to use ubuntu's lirc when I was on 2.6.35. Then when I used the back ported 3.x kernel I installed the wheezy lirc. |
[03:00:31] | Sharky112065: | 2.6.32–5 rather |
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[03:02:01] | Sharky112065: | then went to 3.2.0–0 |
[03:02:25] | Sharky112065: | I'm just saying it will be a mess trying to document it. |
[03:03:22] | Sharky112065: | 80% of the time I spent getting mythtv up and running the way I wanted it was on getting lirc to work correctly |
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[03:04:33] | Sharky112065: | And then you have a multitude of different remotes to deal with as well... |
[03:38:47] | jya: | fafa88: did you go with the 6 buttons? |
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[04:33:13] | fafa88: | jya: stock mac reboot, 6 buttons, seems to be enough for my usage, worked for my normal usage cases. |
[04:33:36] | fafa88: | jya: stock mac remote. |
[04:33:38] | jya: | not sure how you're doing it with just 6 :) |
[04:34:12] | fafa88: | I don't do much, just watch live tv mostly, no jumping around etc. I just need to change channels and select shows to watch :) |
[04:34:56] | fafa88: | if I can navigate through the menus, it is enough :( |
[04:35:42] | jya: | well, how do you exit though? up/down/left/right/ok/play/menu |
[04:36:01] | fafa88: | up/down/right/esc/menu/enter |
[04:36:06] | jya: | assuming menu is exit (like the atv) |
[04:36:23] | fafa88: | the secret was the esc replacing the left cursor, that did it. |
[04:37:41] | jya: | so you never rewind ? :) |
[04:39:05] | fafa88: | haha, my backup remote is mythmote running on my android nexus phone, but I aways leave my phone away from where I need it and too lazy to get it most times. |
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[04:45:06] | fafa88: | Over the last week, mythtv 0.25/fixes have been fairly stable for me, kudos to the developers for the fixes. |
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[06:50:19] | dekarl: | jya, if we started rewinding we'd never make it through all recordings! ^^ |
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[09:46:37] | GlemSom: | I keep getting "RTCVideoSync: Could not set RTC frequency, Permission denied." – though /dev/rtc* has read/write permissions my the mythtv user. What else is needed for MythTV to set RTC frequency ? |
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[10:39:51] | Seeker`: | which -v options should I pass to mythmetadatalookup to work out why it is failing without getting all the ref count logging? |
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[10:48:21] | Seeker`: | hmm, anyone able to pastebin the output of 'locate tmdb'? |
[10:52:27] | Seeker`: | nvm, fixed it |
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[11:13:10] | GlemSom: | Tried a reboot, but same result... O/S wise, permissions are correct – but MythTV still fails to access RTC :( |
[11:13:59] | sphery: | GlemSom: echo 1024 > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/max_user_freq (and/or?) echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/hpet/max-user-freq |
[11:14:09] | sphery: | probably currently at 64 (the default) |
[11:14:22] | sphery: | that said, usleep is probably fine |
[11:16:28] | sphery: | GlemSom: looks like this has some info: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frame_display_timi . . . pt_Frequency |
[11:16:42] | GlemSom: | sphery, That gives me permission errors... thought I just needed /dev/rtc* fixed |
[11:16:56] | sphery: | the echos need to be done as root (or with sudo) |
[11:17:36] | sphery: | the problem is unprivileged users are only allowed to use a max freq of 64Hz |
[11:17:58] | sphery: | mythtv needs more than that to use rtc |
[11:20:53] | GlemSom: | That seemed to work, thanks :) |
[11:21:13] | sphery: | enjoy |
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[14:46:49] | petethepirate: | I am unable to submit my hardware profile. I don't get any usefull information, and can find nothing in google. The error it returns is 'Encountered a probile while submitting your hardware profile.' Frontend log is 'Locking input devices <CR>Unlock input devices' backend log is 'I ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:1360 (HandleAnnounce) MainServer::ANN Monitor<CR>I ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:1362 (HandleAnnounce) |
[14:46:49] | petethepirate: | adding: brawley as a client (events: 0)' Any suggestions? |
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[17:34:28] | somazero: | Greetings! I just finished setting up my first mythtv box/setup with an hdhomerun dual (with Gentoo). I'm assuming this is a settings error on my part, but I can't seem to use both tuners at the same time (watch one tuner and record on the other). Anyone mind pointing me in the right direction? |
[17:34:41] | wagnerrp: | when you configure an HDHR, mythtv should autodetect your device and give you a list of what is available |
[17:34:43] | wagnerrp: | did that happen? |
[17:35:03] | somazero: | yes – I can watch live tv and record without a problem... |
[17:35:10] | somazero: | and I can see both tuners from myth |
[17:35:17] | somazero: | it seems it's just not using it |
[17:35:40] | wagnerrp: | when you configure a digital tuner in mythtv, there is what are called "virtual tuners" |
[17:35:46] | wagnerrp: | each digital tuner will show up as 1–5 virtual ones |
[17:36:10] | wagnerrp: | meaning it allows you to record up to 5 channels simultaneously on the one physical tuner, so long as those channels are on the same multiplex, or physical channel |
[17:36:25] | wagnerrp: | perhaps is that what you are seeing, and mistaking it for both tuners being defined |
[17:36:32] | wagnerrp: | on the HDHR, you have to set up both tuners independently |
[17:36:38] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt automatically grab both |
[17:36:54] | somazero: | I did – had to do both seperately – I saw that via some wiki searches... |
[17:37:23] | somazero: | Haven't seen much about the virtual tuner, though |
[17:37:32] | wagnerrp: | search for multirec |
[17:38:18] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will just choose the first available tuner |
[17:38:36] | wagnerrp: | if that tuner is a virtual tuner, where another virtual tied to the same physical is already in use |
[17:38:40] | wagnerrp: | it will be locked to that multiplex |
[17:39:02] | wagnerrp: | older versions would require you to manually change inputs in order to change channels to one outside that multiplex |
[17:39:06] | wagnerrp: | is that possibly what youre seeing? |
[17:39:57] | somazero: | Well, I'll go back and check – I don't think it is, but I'd like to verify...I appreciate the help – I'll be back in a few... |
[17:40:14] | wagnerrp: | could you explain in more detail what exactly you are seeing? |
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[18:02:20] | somazero: | Well, there were some priorities that were both set to 0, so I set one to 1 and one to 2...Now, it seems to be working...I can record one show and watch another on a completely different channel – thus using the actual two tuners... |
[18:02:50] | somazero: | Anyhow, I appreciate the help! |
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[18:08:04] | Sharky112065: | Is there a good guide for compiling/installing/settingup mythweb for 0.25? Or should I just use the README and wing it? |
[18:08:32] | wagnerrp: | no compiling needed, just copy it into your web root, and configure the database settings |
[18:08:47] | Sharky112065: | ah ok. thanks will do. |
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[19:32:13] | wizbit: | mythtv is rock solid now :D |
[19:32:18] | wizbit: | so far anyhow |
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[20:04:11] | Sharky112065: | hmm. having trouble getting mythweb up and running. I placed the mythweb directory in /var/www/html and modified the conf file to point to that directory. I placed the conf file where it said to put it and restarted apache. When I go to www.myaddress.com/mythweb I get a the directory displayed in the browser. If I go to www.myaddress.com/mythtv/mythweb.php, I get two mythtv links that |
[20:04:11] | Sharky112065: | take me to url not found errors. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? |
[20:05:11] | Sharky112065: | above I said www.myaddress.com/mythtv/mythweb.php, I ment www.myaddress.com/mythweb/mythweb.php |
[20:05:42] | wagnerrp: | where did you get 'mythtv' and 'mythweb.php' from? |
[20:05:51] | Sharky112065: | git |
[20:06:02] | Sharky112065: | fixes/0.25 |
[20:06:16] | wagnerrp: | oh, you corrected it |
[20:06:24] | wagnerrp: | anyway, dont hit mythweb.php directly |
[20:06:28] | wagnerrp: | just go to /mythweb/ |
[20:07:06] | Sharky112065: | yeah, I tried that and I just get the directory listing in the browser. I have another php site that I do that and it works, but it has an index.php in the folder |
[20:07:55] | wagnerrp: | mythweb operates differently from other php sites |
[20:08:03] | wagnerrp: | it uses apache's rewrite rules to make clean URLs |
[20:08:24] | Sharky112065: | I enabled all the modules it said to in the install file |
[20:08:32] | wagnerrp: | which means you need apache to include the mythweb.conf in its configuration |
[20:08:44] | Sharky112065: | and checked versions of apache, php, and pearl |
[20:10:57] | Sharky112065: | I placed mythweb.conf in /etc/apache2/sites-available and typed e2ensite mythweb.conf. Then restarted apache |
[20:11:39] | Sharky112065: | im sure its something simple, but I'm not seeing it |
[20:12:09] | wagnerrp: | did you make the necessary directory changes in mythweb.conf? |
[20:12:18] | wagnerrp: | did you give the database login/pass in mythweb.conf? |
[20:12:27] | Sharky112065: | yep. for both the data directory and the default directory |
[20:12:43] | Sharky112065: | yes to the database login/pass |
[20:12:57] | Sharky112065: | I use the defaults and that is what was in the conf file |
[20:14:15] | Sharky112065: | ill try remarking out the password stuff for authentication and see if it will run, but I dont think that is it because the main web page and or login page never comes up, all I get is the directory in the browser |
[20:14:47] | wagnerrp: | whatever is wrong, those rewrite rules are not getting loaded by apache |
[20:15:09] | Sharky112065: | ill try reenabling the modules again |
[20:15:19] | wagnerrp: | got nothing to do with modules |
[20:15:22] | wagnerrp: | its the rewrite engine |
[20:16:24] | Sharky112065: | I could try just dumping it all in /var/www/html but I did not want to dump all my sites into one directory. |
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[20:19:08] | blscearce: | In case anyone else is having the same difficulty I did (after upgrade to 0.25, episode list doesn't show recording date, just time): |
[20:21:42] | blscearce: | Update recordings-ui.xml so that the recordings/buttonarea/buttonitem second textarea is not "shortdate" but rather "shortstarttimedate". Make its area wider, and remove the "starttime" textarea that follows |
[20:29:52] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: SUCCESS.. it did not like the sym link |
[20:31:01] | Sharky112065: | my root is /var/www/myaddress.com and I have a sym link to it as /var/www/html --> var/www/myaddress.com I changed the conf file to use the full path and it is working |
[20:31:58] | wagnerrp: | not sure why your web root would be in /var, but meh... |
[20:32:40] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: huh? all webroots normaly are /var/www/html arent they? |
[20:32:51] | wagnerrp: | /var is for... variable data |
[20:32:59] | wagnerrp: | web directories are typically not variable |
[20:33:03] | wagnerrp: | and as such should not be in /var |
[20:33:35] | Sharky112065: | Hmm. that is where debian set it up initially as did slackware when I was using that distro |
[20:33:57] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: /var/www |
[20:34:19] | wagnerrp: | well no one said they had to be sensible in their directory structure... |
[20:34:32] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: ah ok :p |
[20:34:57] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: anyway it was me using a sym link that was borking it |
[20:38:04] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: hmm seems I need to create some sym links to my video directory for the video stuff to work |
[20:40:39] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: although it is wiered, the first time I selectd the video icon, the videos came up, then when I selected a different sub video directory it gave me an error about needing a sym link and now no vido works |
[20:41:01] | wagnerrp: | consider the video library access in mythweb broken |
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[20:41:51] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: ah ok, so nothing im doing wrong on my end? |
[20:42:05] | wagnerrp: | no |
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[20:42:15] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: ok, thanks |
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[20:47:58] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: recordedmarkup and recordedseek are listed as "Table is marked as crashed"; should I select the repair option in mythweb? |
[20:48:12] | wagnerrp: | you could |
[20:48:17] | wagnerrp: | better to ask why they are crashed |
[20:48:32] | wagnerrp: | you run out of storage on a partition? your system crash at some point? |
[20:48:40] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: I dont even know what they are |
[20:48:47] | wagnerrp: | database table |
[20:48:56] | wagnerrp: | means mysql faulted for some reason |
[20:49:39] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: it has been recording my shows. maybe it got that way back when the backend was locking up due to that bad commit a while ago. |
[20:49:57] | wagnerrp: | the database is completely independent from the backend |
[20:50:11] | wagnerrp: | a database client (mythbackend) should be unable to cause a fault such as that |
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[20:51:42] | Sharky112065: | I think maybe it happened when my ram overheated. at least I think I had my ram overheating. I did have my ccache get corrupted last week. Next time I open up the box, im going to put a fan on the ram |
[20:52:02] | wagnerrp: | what speed memory? |
[20:52:23] | Sharky112065: | ug.. ill have to look it up. sec.. it is slow.. not overclocked ram |
[20:53:54] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231487 DDR3 1333 |
[20:54:23] | wagnerrp: | eew... |
[20:55:05] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: yeah I know, its slow, but it has been working. I had a bad airconditoner that I just replaced, so it got really hot in here |
[20:55:34] | Sharky112065: | it might not have even been the ram |
[20:55:40] | wagnerrp: | slow? no... its decently fast |
[20:55:44] | wagnerrp: | its off brand |
[20:56:02] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: off brand? I always use Gskill RAM |
[20:56:44] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: so should I tell it to repair or not? |
[20:57:14] | wagnerrp: | gskill, patriot, etc... every time ive bought one of those "cheap performance" brands, it has always given me problems |
[20:57:18] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: if it happens again, I will have to look closer at finding the problem, but I really think I had a heat issue |
[20:57:57] | wagnerrp: | certain systems wont take it, memory runs hot, timings are screwy, incompatible with other sets |
[20:58:02] | wagnerrp: | its always something or another |
[20:58:41] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: I checked on the G.Skill site and they recommeded that ram for my motherboard (as in they had tested it) |
[20:59:02] | wagnerrp: | what motherboard? |
[20:59:10] | wagnerrp: | just the socket is sufficient |
[20:59:11] | fafa88: | My CPU throttles sometimes, still works, I should think about replacing the fan :) |
[20:59:36] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: I have in the last 5 years bought over 40 sticks of G.Skill ram and only ever had to RMA 2 sticks and that was early on in the 5 year period |
[20:59:57] | wagnerrp: | oh, it works, it just behaves.... strangely |
[21:00:13] | wagnerrp: | what socket is your motherboard? |
[21:00:31] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130274 with 8 core AMD |
[21:01:36] | wagnerrp: | then claiming they support your motherboard is a croc |
[21:01:52] | wagnerrp: | as the motherboard isnt providing anything beyond the electrical connections to the memory |
[21:02:01] | wagnerrp: | the controller is in the CPU |
[21:02:29] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: true |
[21:02:38] | wagnerrp: | 8-core? |
[21:02:45] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: yes |
[21:03:10] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103960 |
[21:03:20] | wagnerrp: | i thought magnycours were all socket G or something |
[21:03:53] | Sharky112065: | AM3+ |
[21:04:22] | wagnerrp: | thats not 8-core |
[21:05:15] | wagnerrp: | its either 8-int or 4-module, but there is no structure in that CPU analogous to a "core" |
[21:06:03] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: call it what you want, it is fast as hell and works for me |
[21:06:06] | wagnerrp: | anyway, im just saying brands like gskill have always caused me some form of trouble |
[21:06:46] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: so how do I fix the tables, do the repair tables option? |
[21:07:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the repair tables in mythweb should do it |
[21:07:16] | wagnerrp: | or mysqlchk, or mysqlrepair |
[21:07:22] | wagnerrp: | any number of tools to do it |
[21:07:31] | wagnerrp: | but its not something that should need to be done |
[21:07:34] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: ok thanks, ill keep checking it. Im sure I had a heat issue though because after I replaced the AC, no more issues have cropped up. |
[21:08:16] | wagnerrp: | i would find a day or two where you dont have any recordings, and run an long duration memtest |
[21:08:25] | wagnerrp: | just boot into it and leave it |
[21:08:37] | wagnerrp: | come back after a while and see if any errors have been reported |
[21:09:31] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: will do, I ran a 4 day test on it 3 weeks ago when I built the sytem |
[21:09:55] | wagnerrp: | that should have been sufficient... |
[21:09:58] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: but something could have happened in that time |
[21:10:10] | wagnerrp: | any chance the CPU itself is overheating? |
[21:10:18] | wagnerrp: | those first gen bulldozers run hot |
[21:10:43] | wagnerrp: | the module gating didnt work as well as AMD hoped |
[21:10:44] | messerting: | Hi gurus. I've been fighting with CentOS 6.2 for a while now, and when I found http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10265 I though I'd just throw the distro out and start out fresh. What is the preferred distro among the devs? |
[21:11:00] | wagnerrp: | the preferred distro is whatever one youre comfortable with |
[21:11:05] | Sharky112065: | Something was messed up because I lost two drives on my raid arryay 2 days apart and both times I had to rebuild the array, and no problems using the same drives since I replaced the AC |
[21:11:38] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: naw that is actuall running nice and cool even when the AC was not putting out enough cold air |
[21:12:12] | Sharky112065: | I'm 98% confident that it was a heat issue |
[21:12:30] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: as in ambient temp was too high |
[21:14:45] | messerting: | I'd probably go for Linux Mint 13 then, (Ubuntu 12.04 based) |
[21:15:14] | wagnerrp: | the issues people raise with CentOS/RHEL is just that its a long update cycle |
[21:15:26] | wagnerrp: | youre stuck with old kernels and old software versions for several years |
[21:16:02] | wagnerrp: | so if mythtv requires something newer, you either have to patch it in yourself, or you're stuck with an old version |
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[21:16:51] | messerting: | wagnerrp: Yep, but I wanted it to be a bit more "static" than what I had when I ran Fedora (half year release cycle) |
[21:17:05] | messerting: | But a ubuntu LTS release is good, or? |
[21:17:21] | wagnerrp: | more or less the same problem |
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[21:17:28] | wagnerrp: | if you want something static, its great |
[21:17:41] | wagnerrp: | but then everything is static, potentially even things you dont want to be static |
[21:18:46] | Sharky112065: | I think I will have the same issue with Debian Squeeze in future releases of mythtv |
[21:19:12] | Sharky112065: | I'm already having to use backports on the forontend |
[21:19:43] | Sharky112065: | the computer in the living room that is running frontend rather |
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[21:23:35] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: how do I tell mythweb to use my favorites listing as the default? |
[21:23:46] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
[21:24:17] | Sharky112065: | In mythtv I have a favorite listing set up to only show the channels I like. I would like to see that listing on mythweb |
[21:24:24] | Sharky112065: | instead of all the channels |
[21:24:26] | wagnerrp: | im not sure if thats an option |
[21:24:34] | Sharky112065: | crap |
[21:26:21] | Sharky112065: | that might be a problem for me then. I have 7 channels that are duplicates. as in they are on both the hdhomeruns and the cetons. |
[21:26:41] | Sharky112065: | and the callsigns are simarly named |
[21:26:59] | wagnerrp: | wouldnt that just be two duplicates? |
[21:27:12] | Sharky112065: | two for each channel |
[21:27:19] | Sharky112065: | of the 7 channels |
[21:27:24] | wagnerrp: | on HD and one SD? |
[21:27:32] | Sharky112065: | all are hd |
[21:27:41] | wagnerrp: | oh, you mean one encrypted, one unencrypted |
[21:27:46] | wagnerrp: | right |
[21:27:59] | Sharky112065: | correct |
[21:28:05] | wagnerrp: | if they actually are the same channel, make the number and callsign match |
[21:28:14] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will merge them |
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[21:29:04] | Sharky112065: | I scanned the channels for the hdhomeruns then deleted out but 7 channels I use in the table, then fetched guide info for the cetons, so Ihave 7 channels on the hdhomerun that also are on the cetons, but I like to record off the hdhomeruns for those 7 channels |
[21:29:39] | Sharky112065: | Then how will mythtv know to record those 7 channels first from hdhomeruns |
[21:29:58] | wagnerrp: | when you define your tuners, define them before the cetons |
[21:30:05] | wagnerrp: | they will automatically get used up before the cetons |
[21:30:22] | Sharky112065: | Ok, ill give that a try. |
[21:31:13] | Sharky112065: | ug this is gonna be a mess, I have 60 shows set to record on a regular basis that will have to be removed and recreated |
[21:31:22] | wagnerrp: | why is that? |
[21:31:57] | Sharky112065: | because while they have the same channel number, the callsign is a bit diffeent, or does mythtv only use the channel number for scheduling? |
[21:32:26] | wagnerrp: | channel number is only used if you specifically tell mythtv to listen on that channel |
[21:32:41] | Sharky112065: | I did |
[21:32:52] | wagnerrp: | and then it uses the chanid, meaning it is restricted to only that channel on that video source |
[21:32:56] | wagnerrp: | not matching ones on other video sources |
[21:33:18] | wagnerrp: | unless you have good reason otherwise, all rules should just be record on any channel |
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[21:33:45] | Sharky112065: | because I have sd channels as well and I do not want it recording a show on sd |
[21:34:23] | wagnerrp: | so delete them, or dont given them an XMLTV ID number to pull data with |
[21:37:36] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: guess this is what I will do, step one name the callsighns for those 7 channels the same in mythsetup and then try some recording testing to verify it will recored from the correct tuners. Delete all scheduled recordings. Then re add scheduled recordings |
[21:38:00] | Sharky112065: | the hdhomeruns have a lower number than the cetons |
[21:41:25] | Sharky112065: | i can run mythsetup with out stopping the backend right? |
[21:41:42] | wagnerrp: | yes |
[21:41:58] | Sharky112065: | ok, i have 4 hours to test this so guess ill get cracking |
[21:48:36] | Sharky112065: | I should not need to re pull schedules direct data because those 7 channels use the same html id correct? |
[21:49:10] | wagnerrp: | xmltvid |
[21:49:31] | Sharky112065: | yeah sorry I ment xmlvid |
[21:49:35] | wagnerrp: | and yes |
[21:49:46] | Sharky112065: | ok thanks |
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[21:59:21] | KungFuJesus: | Hello, why is it that in the upstream gentoo ebuild there are packages for mythtv .25.2 branch, but no corresponding ones for the plugins? |
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[21:59:48] | wagnerrp: | there dont need to be? |
[22:00:21] | KungFuJesus: | there do, though. In order to use something like say mytharchive, there is a direct dependency on mythtv-0.25.1 |
[22:00:23] | wagnerrp: | 0.25.2 is just a point release along the fixes/0.25 branch |
[22:00:38] | wagnerrp: | the old plugins work just fine against the new core |
[22:00:53] | KungFuJesus: | Then why do the ebuilds have the = dependency instead of >=? |
[22:01:18] | wagnerrp: | oh, youre saying the packages themselves dont function because of the mismatch |
[22:01:21] | KungFuJesus: | basically what I'm saying is there's an issue with the builds that makes portage refuse to build them |
[22:01:24] | KungFuJesus: | yeah |
[22:01:28] | wagnerrp: | not that the plugins cannot be loaded by the frontend |
[22:01:34] | KungFuJesus: | exactly |
[22:02:28] | KungFuJesus: | I'd like to use .25.2 as it probably contains some pretty important bugfixes, but I can't use any of the plugins with this artificial absolute version dependency |
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[22:07:59] | KungFuJesus: | wagnerrp: the fix is trivial but I'd rather not make local modifications each and every time I sync, could you have a fix down the pipe? |
[22:08:13] | wagnerrp: | nope |
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[22:08:27] | KungFuJesus: | :( |
[22:08:53] | wagnerrp: | i dont manage the upstream gentoo ebuilds |
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[22:09:16] | wagnerrp: | not in my power to do anything about |
[22:09:32] | KungFuJesus: | I don't mean portage upstream, I mean mythtv overlay upstream |
[22:09:44] | wagnerrp: | oh, i could bump those |
[22:09:53] | KungFuJesus: | sweet, thought you were the maintainer for those, haha |
[22:10:03] | wagnerrp: | but there is no 0.25.2 ebuild there to have such problems with |
[22:10:06] | KungFuJesus: | briefly remember telling you about a build issue when zlib changed the name of some of their macros |
[22:10:18] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the mythgame stuff? |
[22:10:29] | KungFuJesus: | yep |
[22:10:33] | wagnerrp: | i actually thought the bump i did a few weeks ago had the patch included |
[22:10:46] | wagnerrp: | but apparently i never copied it over from my testing overlay to the one tied to the repo |
[22:11:51] | KungFuJesus: | ah damn, the 0.25.2 ebuild is being pulled from portage and not the overlay |
[22:12:07] | KungFuJesus: | that's strange considering this overlay is usually more up to date |
[22:12:24] | wagnerrp: | i need to fix my generator script |
[22:12:37] | wagnerrp: | and havent been keeping it up to date as a result for the past few months |
[22:13:06] | KungFuJesus: | alright, well I guess I'll stick with .25.1 until you've got a .25.2 ebuild in the works |
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[22:16:47] | KungFuJesus: | at least you know to fix that dependency issue when the time comes now. I don't suppose you'd recommend mixing the mythtv overlay with the one in portage, would you? |
[22:17:06] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt make much difference |
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[22:48:10] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: i screwed up. deleted the channel group I had defined and now I cannot schedule any recordings becaause it cannot find it. Aparantly it will not just default to all channels |
[22:48:26] | wagnerrp: | the video source? |
[22:49:12] | Sharky112065: | no, previously I had a channel group setup "Favorites" and had that set as the default to show for guide data. |
[22:49:31] | Sharky112065: | then I deleted it and now I cannot pull up any guide |
[22:50:01] | Sharky112065: | Schedule Recordings --> Program Guide |
[22:50:45] | Sharky112065: | I was showing a channel out of order so I deleted the Channel group that I had set up hoping it would fix it |
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[22:51:52] | Sharky112065: | Channel Group " dosent have any channels defined... |
[22:52:53] | Sharky112065: | All the channels are still in the table |
[22:56:05] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: crap, I should not have tried this. now im stuck |
[22:57:28] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: program guide will not come up on live tv either |
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[23:22:54] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: OK, I forgot there was a setting in setup to set the default guide that comes up. got that fixed. |
[23:23:35] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: The problem I was trying to fix is when viewing all channels they show in this order... 9, 10, 11, 111, 12, 13... |
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[23:24:28] | Sharky112065: | wagnerrp: in setup, I have it set to sort by the channel number |
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