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| [00:13:54] | Twiggy2cents: | heh my pool exploded at a seam |
| [00:14:05] | Twiggy2cents: | 10,000 gallons of lawn watering power |
| [00:14:31] | Twiggy2cents: | Luckily I got the pool for free, the down side is that I had it for 3 weeks! |
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| [07:27:50] | wagnerrp: | 9.5hrs.... thats the longest outage so far |
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| [10:37:43] | jya: | yunosh: ok.. Start mythfrontend with -v audio,playback --loglevel debug, and post the output to pastebin.com |
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| [10:41:49] | yunosh: | is AP using port 6948? or what is using that? |
| [10:42:07] | wagnerrp: | 6548 should be the UDP listener |
| [10:42:07] | jya: | AirPlay uses a port that is unused |
| [10:42:10] | wagnerrp: | mythmessage stuff |
| [10:42:14] | yunosh: | k |
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| [14:50:19] | ben1066: | how can I use mythbackend with out a gui |
| [14:51:19] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend has no gui |
| [14:52:35] | ben1066: | hmm, but I heard about needing to run myth-setup |
| [14:52:46] | wagnerrp: | to configure it, that is correct |
| [14:54:15] | ben1066: | so how can I use it on a headless server |
| [14:55:10] | wagnerrp: | using it... there is no interactivity or gui of any sort, so it will run just fine on a headless server |
| [14:55:18] | wagnerrp: | configuring it... use a head located elsewhere |
| [14:55:36] | ben1066: | eh? but then how can myth-setup work |
| [14:55:46] | ben1066: | i dont have x11 installed |
| [14:55:57] | wagnerrp: | now thats simply not possible |
| [14:57:05] | wagnerrp: | the GUI code is contained within shared libraries, and even though mythbackend does not use a gui, it is linked against the x11 libraries, so they must exist |
| [14:57:40] | wagnerrp: | they would have been installed for mythtv to compile, and they would have been automatically picked up by any package system you may have used |
| [14:58:32] | wagnerrp: | do you have no other computers anywhere in your home? |
| [14:59:42] | wagnerrp: | surely you have to have another system somewhere to view these recordings |
| [15:00:14] | ben1066: | well yea, but i want to use mythbackend to record on the server |
| [15:00:21] | ben1066: | then view on my other devices |
| [15:00:31] | wagnerrp: | these other computers, what operating systems are they? |
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| [15:02:36] | wagnerrp: | Linux? Windows? OSX? |
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| [15:05:19] | wagnerrp: | i am actually going somewhere with this line of questions |
| [15:05:58] | ben1066: | one windows, possibly one linux and I also plan on using the android client |
| [15:06:06] | ben1066: | however none of those are left on 24/7 |
| [15:06:21] | ben1066: | only the headless home server running debian wheezy |
| [15:06:21] | wagnerrp: | this linux frontend, it is running an X11 server |
| [15:06:32] | wagnerrp: | so you use it as the remote "head" for your headless server |
| [15:07:06] | wagnerrp: | remember, this is only for initial configuration |
| [15:07:06] | ben1066: | But I cant vnc in without having it run x11... |
| [15:07:11] | ben1066: | Ooh |
| [15:07:18] | ben1066: | X11 over SSH? |
| [15:07:56] | wagnerrp: | VNC is its own X11 server |
| [15:08:16] | wagnerrp: | the normal behavior of VNC is to operate as independently of any local X11 terminal |
| [15:08:22] | wagnerrp: | not to mirror one |
| [15:08:31] | ben1066: | yea, but I dont want to install vnc on my server.. |
| [15:08:33] | wagnerrp: | but yes, i was going for remote X11 |
| [15:08:38] | ben1066: | right :P |
| [15:08:39] | wagnerrp: | either tunneled through SSH |
| [15:08:47] | wagnerrp: | or just redirected natively |
| [15:09:01] | wagnerrp: | 'export DISPLAY="remotehost:0.0"' |
| [15:09:38] | wagnerrp: | point your environment at the remote X server, and any application will automatically display there |
| [15:10:07] | wagnerrp: | (assuming the remote server has been configured to listen on the network, you are not blocking it with a firewall, and you have set up proper authentication) |
| [15:11:20] | ** J-e-f-f-A preferrs NX ;-) ** | |
| [15:12:08] | wagnerrp: | its also not hard to come by an X11 server for that windows desktop either |
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| [16:00:06] | smoothifier: | hi guys :) for some reason, i'm not getting artwork added for new recordings in 0.25. I can run mythmetadatalookup --refresh-all-artwork and it shows up. The checkbox for metadata lookup is checked in my recording rules. If I'm not mistaken (which I might be), I am getting the descriptive metadata but not the artwork. |
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| [16:03:08] | smoothifier: | oh, also, I checked mythtv-setup and it allows metadata lookup jobs. |
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| [16:26:12] | smoothifier: | never mind, I found the setting in Setup->Artwork and Data Sources. I thought I'd read the wiki but I must have skipped over that section. :) |
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| [18:03:06] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: wtf is with "mikey"? |
| [18:03:19] | wagnerrp: | ranting on a ticket that has zero to do with his complaint? |
| [18:04:33] | SteveGoodey: | wagnerrp: Got your power back. How long was it down? |
| [18:04:51] | wagnerrp: | ~5PM – ~2:30AM |
| [18:05:43] | wagnerrp: | by the way, account signups have been open since yesterday |
| [18:05:44] | SteveGoodey: | Wow that's some service. Any idea what the fault was? |
| [18:05:55] | wagnerrp: | looks like the guy moved on |
| [18:06:30] | wagnerrp: | multiple transformer failure on our distribution phase due to lightning strike |
| [18:06:49] | wagnerrp: | nothing they could do but shut down that phase, and everyone linked off of it, until they got them replaced |
| [18:07:39] | wagnerrp: | thats four extended duration outages since the beginning of july |
| [18:08:35] | SteveGoodey: | You need to move :-) You got UPS? Any compensation? |
| [18:11:16] | wagnerrp: | giving serious consideration to one of these... http://www.cumminsonan.com/residential/produc . . . ?gensetId=98 |
| [18:12:56] | wagnerrp: | i have UPSs on my systems |
| [18:13:18] | wagnerrp: | but oddly, the one on my desktop abruptly terminated after just over a minute |
| [18:13:29] | wagnerrp: | it itself thought it had far more reserve than it did |
| [18:15:32] | SteveGoodey: | Perhaps we could have a collection and buy you one. Another spam page flushed. |
| [18:15:45] | wagnerrp: | just now? |
| [18:15:58] | wagnerrp: | bah... |
| [18:16:15] | wagnerrp: | and here i just said good things about the lack of spam |
| [18:17:10] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: i have been trying to get my head around this for weeks, is mythweb capable of showing video covers like in previous versions? Or maybe that part is not finished yet, all i can see is a directory tree but nothing happens when i click on it? |
| [18:17:41] | wagnerrp: | the video portion of mythweb has been in need of a rewrite since 0.22 |
| [18:18:10] | wizbit: | right so it doesnt work |
| [18:18:14] | wagnerrp: | best option would be to rewrite the underlying metadata libraries, so a lot of the functionality can be provided through the services API, rather than duplicated through mythweb |
| [18:18:20] | wagnerrp: | if you're interested in doing something |
| [18:18:38] | wizbit: | o_0 that involves hard work and a brain? |
| [18:19:04] | wizbit: | i lack in both areas :( |
| [18:19:16] | wagnerrp: | most of what is needed is already available over the services API |
| [18:19:29] | wagnerrp: | but im thinking about stuff like the different view modes |
| [18:20:13] | wagnerrp: | those would be well suited to move into the backend, perhaps with some form of database or memory cache for faster access |
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| [18:21:20] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: re the nonsense on #10613, thats something i have planned for 0.27 |
| [18:21:20] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10613 ** | |
| [18:21:49] | wagnerrp: | if it would be better to have some other code generate a tree view for the UPNP server, rather than have the UPNP server build its own directory tree |
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| [19:05:54] | SteveGoodey: | wagnerrp: Sorry to keep going on about this. A new account on the wiki has to be able to solve the maths question as well as supply name and email? Then request forwarded to admin for yes/no? |
| [19:06:48] | wagnerrp: | math question? i thought we were using recaptcha |
| [19:07:58] | wagnerrp: | anyway, im writing some framework that will let me tie in things like stopforumspam to the account creation process |
| [19:08:46] | SteveGoodey: | Ok, I'll leave you to it. |
| [19:09:06] | wagnerrp: | was halfway through it yesterday when i lost power |
| [19:09:14] | wagnerrp: | havent really started back into it yet |
| [19:11:29] | SteveGoodey: | I've just gone onto create account and it's asking me for the answer to 89+7. |
| [19:11:40] | wagnerrp: | huh... |
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| [19:18:05] | ben1066: | how powerful does the backend need to be for eg ad. detection? |
| [19:18:16] | wagnerrp: | what kind of content? |
| [19:18:57] | ben1066: | DVB-T recording |
| [19:18:59] | ben1066: | UK |
| [19:19:11] | wagnerrp: | so standard definition, MPEG2 and H264? |
| [19:19:27] | ben1066: | I assume so yea |
| [19:19:54] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt take all that much |
| [19:20:03] | wagnerrp: | any decent modern dual core processor would be sufficient |
| [19:20:21] | wagnerrp: | Athlon II, Core2, Core i3... not Atom/ARM |
| [19:20:49] | wagnerrp: | if this is a dedicated backend, the A-series Fusions would be fine, but i would avoid the E-series |
| [19:20:56] | Steve-Goodey: | ben1066: There have reports that ad detection in the UK can be a bit of a problem. |
| [19:21:12] | ben1066: | ah well, I shant bother, im running it on an old single core, passive cooled via cpu, only 1ghz :S |
| [19:21:15] | wagnerrp: | and you dont want to muck around with AMD graphics for a frontend |
| [19:21:38] | wagnerrp: | and what steve said, the commercial detection has really been tuned more for north american television |
| [19:21:47] | wagnerrp: | and people report it not working well |
| [19:21:50] | Steve-Goodey: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Commercial_detection_in_the_UK |
| [19:21:51] | wagnerrp: | in the UK |
| [19:22:27] | wagnerrp: | there are a couple of user contributed external scripts, that use silence detection programs designed for music to mark the commercial start/end points |
| [19:23:00] | wagnerrp: | the current internal commercial flagger does not process audio, but a planned future iteration will, and should work better in the UK |
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| [19:28:38] | Nede: | hi cht |
| [19:28:40] | Nede: | chat |
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| [19:29:43] | Nede: | Video frame buffer faild on live tv. v0.25.2-3-gf0e2ad8. Any news? |
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| [19:39:09] | ben1066: | One day ill build a proper box for this :P With multiple tuners and big harddrives |
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| [20:40:30] | RoboJ1M: | Hi, I'm having problems with the new myth services api, specifically GetRecordings and GetRecording. Videos that play back fine in the front end fail to play over the API. The start date in GetRecordings does not match whats displayed in the front end, and GetRecording returns 404 for that video. Manually fudging the date/time does not resolve the 404 with GetRecording |
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| [20:50:42] | earthw0rm: | Hi lads |
| [20:51:05] | earthw0rm: | Fedora updates included a new version of MythTV today, and now it doesn't seem to be starting |
| [20:51:22] | earthw0rm: | Are there DB changes I need to apply? |
| [20:51:27] | earthw0rm: | If so, how do I do it? |
| [20:51:40] | earthw0rm: | It went from 0.25.1–1 to 0.25.1–2 I think |
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| [21:11:13] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, it's related to #8801 which you guys closed :) |
| [21:11:13] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8801 ** | |
| [21:11:27] | Beirdo: | sorry, was off doing work |
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| [21:17:37] | wizbit: | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18917906 |
| [21:17:39] | wizbit: | Micro$hit |
| [21:18:26] | wagnerrp: | and yet, shares went up |
| [21:21:13] | wizbit: | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18917901 |
| [21:24:28] | ** wizbit celebrates microsoft loss ** | |
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| [22:14:37] | sl1ce: | i am trying to backup the mythtv database |
| [22:14:44] | sl1ce: | where is the backup script? |
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| [22:21:37] | wizbit: | what options do you use to launch mythbackend, i use: |
| [22:21:40] | wizbit: | /usr/local/bin/mythbackend -v --noupnp --user mythtv --logpath /var/log/mythtv -p /var/run/mythbackend.pid -d |
| [22:21:46] | wizbit: | but that creates a _lot_ of logging |
| [22:23:42] | wizbit: | maybe this will help |
| [22:23:43] | wizbit: | /usr/local/bin/mythbackend -v --noupnp --user mythtv --logpath /var/log/mythtv --loglevel err -p /var/run/mythbackend.pid -d |
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| [22:28:35] | tgm4883: | good thing you stuck around sl1ce |
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| [22:29:02] | tgm4883: | so I could tell you "if you use mythbuntu/ubuntu then it's /usr/share/mythtv/mythconverg_backup.pl" |
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| [22:45:46] | wagnerrp: | sl1ce: "[18:29] tgm4883: if you use mythbuntu/ubuntu then it's /usr/share/mythtv/mythconverg_backup.pl" |
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| [23:10:55] | sl1ce: | ok i was able to do a full backup/restore thanks |
| [23:11:25] | sl1ce: | how can i backup my mythtv-setup settings? |
| [23:11:45] | wagnerrp: | they are in that database you just backed up |
| [23:12:10] | sl1ce: | i did a full restore on my new machine and those settings didn't seem to be there |
| [23:12:51] | sl1ce: | do i need to reboot after? |
| [23:15:02] | wagnerrp: | does this new machine have a new hostname? |
| [23:15:50] | sl1ce: | yea its different |
| [23:16:06] | wagnerrp: | settings are indexed off the hostname |
| [23:16:14] | wagnerrp: | either force mythtv to use the old hostname |
| [23:16:14] | sl1ce: | oh crap |
| [23:16:26] | wagnerrp: | or use that backup/restore script to migrate the settings to the new hostname |
| [23:16:38] | sl1ce: | hmm ok i will try that |
| [23:16:47] | wagnerrp: | restore from your original backup first |
| [23:16:57] | wagnerrp: | since youve run mythtv on the new hostname already to notice things different |
| [23:16:59] | sl1ce: | original? |
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| [23:17:14] | wagnerrp: | that means youre going to have conflicting settings when you try to migrate them from the old hostname |
| [23:17:35] | wagnerrp: | you just did a backup and restore, presumably before you ran it for the first time on the new machine, correct? |
| [23:17:36] | sl1ce: | so i should drop and add right? |
| [23:17:53] | sl1ce: | yea i ran it to check the settings |
| [23:18:14] | sl1ce: | so i will drop and then add again |
| [23:18:24] | wagnerrp: | yeah, just to avoid any complications from duplicate entries |
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| [23:18:30] | sl1ce: | k |
| [23:18:37] | wagnerrp: | check the restore script, there is an option for migrating hostnames |
| [23:18:49] | sl1ce: | ok i will look for that |
| [23:20:23] | sl1ce: | --change_hostname --old_hostname="XXXX" --new_hostname="YYYY" |
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| [23:20:30] | wagnerrp: | sounds right |
| [23:20:39] | sl1ce: | thx |
| [23:21:11] | sl1ce: | i'm guessing i will need to remap the storage directory after that |
| [23:21:41] | wagnerrp: | your tuner and storage configuration will likely need to be redone |
| [23:22:12] | sl1ce: | i think tuner will be ook |
| [23:22:19] | sl1ce: | its ceton and its ip based |
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