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Sunday, July 8th, 2012, 00:04 UTC
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[00:41:23] pyther: Is it possible to give a channel a recording priority? I have a situtaion where I have an HD and SD version of multiple channels on the same tunner, but on a different frequencies
[00:56:21] wagnerrp: remove the SD version of the channel
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[01:05:13] pyther: yes that would be easy but having both could be nice...
[01:08:13] pyther: so say I wanted to record something on ABC-HD (freq 54) and NBC-HD (freq 78) at the same time. That wouldn't typically work. All the SD channels are broadcasted on the same frequency (57) so therefore I'd like to record both shows at SD, instead of only recording one
[01:08:42] wagnerrp: better to get a second tuner
[01:09:18] pyther: Fair enough, figured that was probably too much complex logic
[01:09:32] wagnerrp: there probably is a way, i dont know off hand
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[01:12:07] pyther: Got a weired issue going on I can tune some digital channels but not others. The ones I can't tune I get "Error opening jump program buffer"
[01:13:00] pyther: the ones I can tune say "(_LAM)" while tunning... the ones I can't say "(_LAMGV)"
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[01:31:57] pyther: Maybe if someone is really nice they can explain to me what might have been going on...
[01:32:00] pyther: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /155954.html
[01:32:50] pyther: basically the channels that wouldn't tune and timeout had atsc_major_chan and atsc_minor_chan set appropiately. Zeroing those out, allows the channels to tune without a problem
[01:33:53] wagnerrp: yikes
[01:34:10] wagnerrp: flexing my left hand feels funny, so i look at it
[01:34:22] wagnerrp: here ive got a big slice most of the length of my ring finger
[01:34:42] pyther: yuck!
[01:54:07] ertyu-m: you didn't notice the funny blood stains on everything you touched?
[01:56:38] wagnerrp: its not bleeding
[01:57:12] wagnerrp: but its deep enough i can feel the skin shifting and opening up as i curl my finger
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[02:08:25] ertyu-m: so while diagnose an issue on my cable box I was poking around the cable box diagnostic menu and notice firewire listed as "copy free" with 5c set to NO, that's nice to see and backs up what I've seen in testing
[02:08:35] ertyu-m: diagnosing
[02:29:23] Novae: Are there any tools available for configuring a mythtv backend over a network? other than running mythtv-setup remotly on the local X server?
[02:30:32] wagnerrp: thats it
[02:31:44] Novae: bugger, the connection to the remote host isn't fast enough to do it...
[02:32:14] wagnerrp: it ought to be, since my lowly DSL is plenty sufficient
[02:33:27] Novae: wagnerrp: i'll give it another shot but i think the remote host can only sustain an upload of 20KB/s which didn't seem to be enough
[02:34:01] Novae: I'm also having some trouble getting mythfilldatabase running from cron: http://pastebin.com/GUcNNVW1
[02:34:02] wagnerrp: so when you say "network", you actually mean "internet"?
[02:34:12] Novae: It works fine if i just run it on the command line.
[02:34:55] Novae: wagnerrp: yah, but any tool that would work over a network will work over the internet :P
[02:35:18] wagnerrp: probably as it cannot find the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt to know how to access the database
[02:35:48] wagnerrp: besides, you almost certainly shouldnt be running mythfilldatabase through cron
[02:35:57] wagnerrp: let mythbackend decide when to run it on its own
[02:36:14] wagnerrp: er no, im thinking of something else
[02:36:28] Novae: wagnerrp: nup, it can find it as changing the host address changes the host that it cannot connect to
[02:36:54] wagnerrp: i was thinking of letting MFD run the xmltv grabber automatically, rather than forcing it a file
[02:38:18] Novae: yeah, often you can let it do that but the australian grabber shepherd doesn't like doing it that way for some reason so it crons MFD
[02:38:33] wagnerrp: no, i got mixed up with something else
[02:38:37] Novae: ohh ok
[02:38:54] wagnerrp: cronning MFD is fine, but MFD should run the grabber itself, rather than being fed a file
[02:39:56] wagnerrp: in any case, youre running it as root... shouldnt run things as root
[02:40:08] wagnerrp: and there is no database file in /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[02:40:11] Novae: actually, now it won't run from the commandline either...but it is finding ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[02:40:17] wagnerrp: so its trying the defaults, mythtv:mythtv@localhost
[02:40:22] wagnerrp: which apparently dont work
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[02:44:06] Novae: wagnerrp: weird, i changed the address from the loop-back to one of the local interface addresses and it works from the commandline now but still not from cron http://pastebin.com/M26A9cnC
[02:44:58] wagnerrp: because its still running as root, and still not finding the file you're editing
[02:45:42] Novae: wagnerrp: root won't stop it from running, and it is finding the file because 192.168.2.1 is not the default address...
[02:46:20] wagnerrp: bleh... copy/paste never works on xming
[02:46:26] wagnerrp: still had the old link in my clipboard
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[02:49:21] Novae: heh
[02:56:19] Novae: wagnerrp: any ideas?
[02:57:01] wagnerrp: no idea why it would be claiming the IP is not accessible
[02:57:12] wagnerrp: unless you're running it on two separate machines by accident
[03:02:46] Novae: wagnerrp: heh, nope, yeah its very strange. Super weird that it happily runs if i manually run it also.
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[04:27:21] splurben: just upgraded to mythtv_0.26_pre20120706 – backend fails to start and reports "MySQLtime zone support is missing. Please install it and try again." Anyone got any ideas?
[04:27:51] wagnerrp: hmmm.... i probably should have added something in there to do that...
[04:28:32] wagnerrp: mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo | mysql -uroot mysql
[04:28:46] wagnerrp: add -p if you have a root password on your mysql server
[04:28:57] splurben: cool, trying that now
[04:32:41] splurben: thanks heaps to wagnerrp, I'll post it as a solved on mythtv forums, cheers
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[04:51:53] Beirdo: mmm, blues.
[04:53:32] wagnerrp: with rhythm?
[04:53:57] Beirdo: heh, Memphis style.. the best
[04:54:42] Beirdo: B.B. King Radio on Pandora
[04:55:38] ** wagnerrp should get this scanner written and pushed tonight **
[04:56:37] Beirdo: heh, not much time left this cycle to get it written and all.
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[04:57:06] wagnerrp: ive got nearly all the conversion SQL done
[04:57:15] wagnerrp: and theres not a whole lot that needs to be changed in the scanner
[04:57:29] wagnerrp: the trouble is going to be ferreting out all the little bits in the video library
[04:57:50] Beirdo: yup
[04:57:55] Beirdo: git grep is your friend
[04:57:56] Beirdo: ;)
[04:58:03] wagnerrp: aye
[04:58:19] Beirdo: as long as there's something to search for, of course
[04:58:45] Beirdo: unfortunately "git grep stupidity" doesn't do what ya want...
[04:59:00] Beirdo: if only
[04:59:42] wagnerrp: the only thing im not certain of is how to handle flushing out content from videometadata once this is all done
[04:59:49] wagnerrp: right now, if the file doesnt exist, its canned
[05:00:14] wagnerrp: in the intended changes, the videometadata is linked to a scannerfile, which is persistent
[05:00:28] splurben: wagnerrp, all going on backend, however, mythweb listings are totally out of whack (I can't find an offset correlation), already carried out mythfilldatabase
[05:00:28] wagnerrp: the only thing that gets removed is one reference to an actual host/path
[05:00:57] Beirdo: ooh, my changes compiled
[05:00:59] Beirdo: let's test.
[05:01:58] wagnerrp: yeah, looks like they need some fixing for the UTC changes
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[05:02:32] Beirdo: snicker
[05:03:06] Beirdo: 2012-07–07 22:02:21.927180 C Received Segmentation fault
[05:03:12] Beirdo: nice that THAT works :)
[05:03:21] Beirdo: seems my changes are incomplete
[05:04:03] splurben: correct, mythweb out by 8 hours, I'm UTC+8, mythweb listings are UTC
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[05:29:13] Beirdo: OK, pushed. As best I can tell it is working right. There are some edge cases I'm worried about though
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[07:31:01] pheld: Database schema upgrade failed (1306->1307) ... `added` DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP ... Invalid default value for 'added'
[07:32:34] pheld: in "CREATE TABLE scannerfile"
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[07:51:52] pheld: shouldn't the field "added" be of type "TIMESTAMP" instead of "DATETIME"?
[08:00:54] pheld: also ... CREATE TABLE scannerpath ... Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes
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[08:12:18] Novae: "Canceling recording since tuning timeout, 180 seconds, has been exceeded." Anybody have any inside into why a tuner would start throwing this message for a whole multiplex when it worked yesterday?
[08:12:46] Novae: s/inside/insight/
[08:15:47] lapion: maybe try to kill all mythtv-backend instances
[08:16:29] lapion: try: sudo kill -9 `pgrep mythtv-back`
[08:16:58] Novae: heh, first thing i tried
[08:18:04] Novae: If its of some use the backend is running on FreeBSD 8-STABLE and the tuners are in a HDHomerun.
[08:18:50] lapion: do stop mythtv-backend, followed by the kill command, and check if any instances are still running ?
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[08:26:10] Novae: lapion: they're definetly all dead before i restart it
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[09:51:50] Novae: Hmm, my issues seems to have partly resolved by forcing the hdhomerun tuner to find the 'plex with hdhomerun-config-gui and then recording with mythtv. Maybe it was an issue with the hdhomerun...
[10:21:55] lapion: I cannot seem to get the pci card drivers to be loaded before the usb ones
[10:23:32] lapion: or is it that my udev rules do not get integrated into the initrd
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[12:34:28] NickHu: Hey guys, MythTV seems to have completely buggered up in that it's not using my DVB S card properly anymore
[12:34:39] NickHu: How can I nuke the config and leave only recordings and videos?
[12:38:33] sphery: NickHu: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034
[12:39:04] sphery: (meaning "Delete All Video Sources
[12:39:24] sphery: then "Delete All Capture Cards" (not "Delete All Capture Cards on <hostname>")
[12:40:54] sphery: NickHu: also, you may want to check that your devices came up in the same order--if not, you need to configure udev or something to maintain the same order on reboots
[12:41:16] NickHu: sphery: I only have one device, and it works fine manually with mplayer
[12:41:36] sphery: yeah, then it's probably just needing a reconfig
[12:41:41] sphery: maybe only a rescan
[12:42:03] NickHu: It refuses to scan, says it can't open tuner or something
[12:42:07] sphery: but if you do the 2 delete alls, you'll clear out everything, so you won't have to worry about any garbage staying in there
[12:42:17] sphery: ah, ok... make sure you check device permissions, too
[12:42:38] NickHu: Running as root also so it shouldn't be an issue
[12:42:44] sphery: yeah
[12:42:52] NickHu: Can I just backup the relevant table for my recordings and drop the database?
[12:43:01] sphery: ok, so sounds like you were on the right track, then...
[12:43:09] sphery: you can do a full backup
[12:43:20] sphery: you could do a partial restore, but it's a waste of hours of your time
[12:43:29] NickHu: As in – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore ?
[12:43:45] sphery: as your DB will be just as clean with the 2 delete alls (when it comes to the card/input/source stuff)
[12:43:54] sphery: yeah, use that to back up
[12:43:54] NickHu: Ah, okay
[12:44:17] sphery: then, if you want to waste a lot of time reconfiguring everything, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . _of_a_backup
[12:44:27] sphery: note also how much it says it's useless... it really is
[12:44:44] NickHu: I also had several issues with XMLTV (it taking over 6 hours to complete) and EIT (it interrupted tuning and recording)
[12:44:48] sphery: it's only meant for use when you have a corrupt DB schema or corrupt data within the schema
[12:45:33] sphery: that may be mysql config issues for the first, and eit was causing problems, so make sure you're on current 0.25-fixes
[12:45:50] sphery: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tune_MySQL might help with mysql config
[12:46:00] NickHu: sphery: I remember the logging table being full of errors, but it seemed fine after a standard mysql repair
[12:46:18] sphery: ah, yeah, corruption of that table could be very bad
[12:46:39] sphery: and optimize_mythdb.pl or mysqlcheck with repair would generally fix it
[12:46:49] sphery: anyway, I have to get going... good luck
[12:47:09] NickHu: Thanks :)
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[13:12:33] wizbit: how can one get mythweb to show mythvideo covers?
[13:12:43] wizbit: i can see a root directory but nothing happens when i click on it
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[14:23:33] KenBW2: I'm repeatedly unable to log in to my remote mythtv backend while setting up the frontend. I'm able to log into the database using mysql directly on the server machine. Is there any of the usual things I should check?
[14:42:07] pyther: KenBW2: do you mean you can't connect to the backend?
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[14:59:41] ** wizbit will pay somebody $100000 if they create 4:3 of retro theme **
[15:00:17] wizbit: i think retro is the best looking theme ever
[15:00:24] wizbit: minimal, professional looking
[15:01:30] Sharky112065: When watching a video (downloaded) how does one turn on subtitles? aka .srt files. The idx and srt files are in the directory. I tried menu but no option to turn it on.
[15:05:16] Steve-Goodey: Sharky112065: Files exactly same name apart from extension?
[15:06:27] Sharky112065: yes they are
[15:08:02] Steve-Goodey: On mine I think the subtitle key is mapped to 't'.
[15:08:17] Sharky112065: I tried that, dosent seem to work
[15:08:45] Sharky112065: ill take a look at setup ... key mappings
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[15:12:16] movefiles: Hello, I am using myth 0.24.1 and would like to move my recordings to a new harddrive on a file server that will not be part of mythtv. How do I get the recording file names to something readable?
[15:12:42] Steve-Goodey: Sharky112065: On mine TV Playback TOGGLECC Toggle any captions T
[15:14:09] pyther: movefiles: there is a script that will create symlinks, I forget what exactly its called
[15:14:45] pyther: movefiles: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythlink.pl
[15:15:08] pyther: could probably create the symlinks and then copy the directory with the symlinks to the new hard drive
[15:15:18] pyther: it should keep the name of the symlinks
[15:15:23] Sharky112065: This is not tv. The movie is in videos. A downloaded video with external (not embeded) subtitles
[15:16:06] movefiles: is there any special command to do that kind of copying? I have never used symlinks
[15:17:43] Steve-Goodey: Sharky112065: Couldn't see a key binding in video, so assumed tv playback is the one/same?
[15:19:58] movefiles: I have a lot of recordings
[15:20:13] movefiles: is there anyway to do this automatically, for all recordings rather than as a user job?
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[15:23:08] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: I added alt-t in tv playback and it did not work.
[15:24:55] Steve-Goodey: Sharky112065: alt+t?? I've just got T
[15:25:31] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: there were no key bindisngs for it, so I added it.
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[15:26:22] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey:Enable Subs. That is the one
[15:26:45] Steve-Goodey: Where's that?
[15:31:05] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: found it. "ENABLEEXTTEXT" but it is not working. The screen shows it enableing when I press the alt-t and disabling when I hit t, but no subtitles :(
[15:31:54] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: the .srt and .idx files are named exactly (including case) as the .avi file.
[15:32:04] movefiles: mythlink.pl has exited with an unexpected indentation error?
[15:32:23] movefiles: line 17 use DBI?
[15:34:36] Steve-Goodey: Sharky112065: Multiple dots in filename? Have you tried using vlc to confirm mythtv problem?
[15:35:01] movefiles: can someone point me to a working mythlink.pl ?
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[15:35:16] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: no double .., good idea, will check in vlc
[15:37:07] offebach: mythtv[0.25] How to import older recordings from recording directory??
[15:37:26] Steve-Goodey: Sharky112065: Saw a posting where a.b.avi screwed things.
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[15:39:27] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: "Fright Night.avi", "Fright Night.srt", "Fright Night.idx"
[15:40:22] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: I don't need the subtitles for that movie, but it is one I put in for testing, I do have others that I will need sub titles for parts of the movies where they are speaking other languages.
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[15:44:04] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: there are dependancy problems with me installing vlc on the Linux box, but I did just watch it in vlc on a Windows box using vlc via samba share and the subtitles show on the screen
[15:44:59] Sharky112065: Steve-Goodey: so the files are good
[15:47:17] Steve-Goodey: What do you have in TV Playback TOGGLECC?
[15:47:17] KenBW2: pyther: if you're still there, yes i do mean I can't connect
[15:47:44] Steve-Goodey: offebach: http://www.mythpvr.com/mythtv/tips/migrate-recordings.html
[15:52:11] offebach: Steve-Goodey: I'll try....
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[16:18:06] Ritalin: good morning everyone
[16:20:35] wagnerrp: KenBW2: did you define your backend as listening on 127.0.0.1?
[16:20:58] wagnerrp: movefiles: look into 'mythlink.pl'
[16:21:18] wagnerrp: it will create human-readable links to your recordings, in a directory structure and naming format you specify
[16:21:27] wagnerrp: after which, just copy those you want to your external drive
[16:21:47] Sharky112065: I wonder if it is a bug that I cannot turn on external subtitle's in fixes/0.25? Tried all key bindings I could find and there is no option in the osd menu
[16:21:53] wagnerrp: oh, seems that was already suggested...
[16:22:19] wagnerrp: and youve left anyway
[16:22:47] Sharky112065: I dont want to file a ticket if it's just something I'm doing wrong...
[16:23:39] wagnerrp: Sharky112065: best solution, just mux it into an MKV with the bitmapped subs off the DVD
[16:23:39] Steve-Goodey: wagnerrp: How's your finger? :-)
[16:23:58] wagnerrp: dont bother with messy external subs, or waste time OCRing them
[16:24:10] wagnerrp: still sliced open, doesnt hurt, just feels weird
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[16:25:42] Sharky112065: I have some video's that have spoken parts in other languages. I need external subs to work
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[16:26:15] KenBW2: wagnerrp: If you're referring to what I see in the mythtv frontend setup wizard, no – i've specified the IP of the server
[16:26:46] wagnerrp: no you didnt
[16:27:01] wagnerrp: there is nowhere in the frontend setup wizard for you to specify the IP of the backend server
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[16:28:10] wagnerrp: the only thing you tell the frontend is the location of the database server
[16:28:18] wagnerrp: which may or may not be on the same machine as the master backend
[16:28:29] wagnerrp: the frontend then looks up the location of the backend in the database server
[16:28:54] wagnerrp: so, if you left your backend using the default values, which is 127.0.0.1, any remote frontend will be unable to connect
[16:29:29] wagnerrp: you must run mythtv-setup, on the machine that holds the master backend, and set the local and master backend IP addresses to the same value, and one that will be accessible from the remote frontend
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[16:32:12] Ritalin: I'm having an issue recording/tuning to a hauppage card (hvr-2250) using the svideo input. v4l2-ctl and mplayer work fine. just doesn't seem to be working in myth for some reason. mythbackend.log shows "TVRecEvent v4lchannel.cpp:467 (Tune) Channel(/dev/video0)::Tune(): Error, failed to find channel."
[16:33:12] wagnerrp: you shouldnt be tuning anything if you're using svideo
[16:33:24] wagnerrp: did you forget to give mythtv a channel changer script?
[16:33:24] Ritalin: I agree. Myth sees it differently
[16:33:40] KenBW2: wagnerrp: so if i understand it, the frontend needs to point to a master backend, which may not be the same as the database?
[16:33:53] wagnerrp: KenBW2: no, everything points at the database
[16:34:08] Ritalin: well, I didn't know I needed to. I just want to record what's on the svideo input. I'm not using irblaster or anything. only one channel on a set top box I'm interested in recording and it's always set to that channel
[16:34:12] wagnerrp: the location of everything else is discovered through information stored in the database
[16:34:17] KenBW2: ah so each machine needs to use the same frontend and backend, but the database is only in one place?
[16:34:38] wagnerrp: each machine needs to use one single, shared database
[16:34:41] KenBW2: each machine needs both the front and back end*
[16:34:47] wagnerrp: but you can have as many frontends and backends as you want
[16:35:01] wagnerrp: and none of those three entities needs to be on the same machine
[16:35:27] KenBW2: Am i wrong in the understanding that the backend and db are on the same machine, and each frontend plugs into that?
[16:35:43] wagnerrp: the backend and db _can_ be on the same machine, but they do not have to be
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[16:36:17] KenBW2: i see
[16:36:19] wagnerrp: the only thing any individual application knows when starting up is where the database is
[16:36:29] wagnerrp: and the database tells them everything else they need to know
[16:36:41] wagnerrp: so on your master backend, mythtv-setup, the first page of the first section
[16:36:47] wagnerrp: there are three addresses
[16:36:59] wagnerrp: IPv4 listen address, IPv6 listen address, and master backend address
[16:37:13] Sharky112065: OK, guess ill give up on trying to get .srt files to work and create a ticket. two hours is long enough, it cant be me at this point.
[16:37:33] wagnerrp: either the v4 or v6 (or both) addresses needs to be a network accessible address that the remote frontend can reach
[16:37:56] wagnerrp: and the master address must match, to indicate which backend is to operate as the master
[16:38:47] ertyu-m: wagnerrp, will front ends round robin through the list of backend addresses until they find one that works?
[16:38:52] KenBW2: wagnerrp: mythtv-setup gives me the full screen GUI, in there i need to point to the database, which in this case is the same machine?
[16:39:02] wagnerrp: no, the master backend must exist and must be accessible
[16:39:14] wagnerrp: the master backend controls everything about the rest of the cluster
[16:39:25] wagnerrp: ritalin: what exactly are you trying to do here?
[16:39:34] Ritalin: wagnerrp: a few days ago when I was messing with this and put the channel changing script as /bin/echo just to try and give myth something that it thought it was doing but.. didn't seem to make a difference
[16:39:35] wagnerrp: mythtv is designed to record scheduled television from guide data
[16:39:51] wagnerrp: it is not intended to operate for manual recordings
[16:39:58] wagnerrp: use '/bin/true'
[16:40:21] wagnerrp: it must be some function that returns a successful exit code
[16:40:33] KenBW2: wagnerrp: "Database Server Settings", surely needs where the db is. Am I configuring the front- or back end in the full-screen GUI?
[16:40:37] wagnerrp: presumably it needs to change the channel to whatever mythtv sends it as the argument
[16:40:53] wagnerrp: when you set the database server settings, you are telling the frontend where the database is
[16:40:56] wagnerrp: nothing else
[16:41:35] wagnerrp: Ritalin: the presence of that channel changer script decides whether mythtv tries to use the input as a capture device with external control, or as a tuner that needs to be internally controlled
[16:41:41] Ritalin: wagnerrp: most all of the things I record I tune with QAM... works great. There's one encrypted channel my cable provider has that I want to record (NBC Sports... tour de france). I have a Motorola STB that I have hooked up via one of the svideo inputs on my hauppage card. like I said with mplayer it works fine so I know that the card/stb combo are working. I am only interested in this
[16:41:41] Ritalin: one channel so I don't need to worry about changing stations. I have the channel set up on schedules direct. a data source that has the one channel and that data source attached to the svideo
[16:44:16] wagnerrp: when you set up the input, there are two different "starting channels"
[16:44:40] wagnerrp: one of them tells mythtv what channel to start with on live tv, either through the tuner or external channel change script
[16:44:41] Ritalin: yeah, I just set the bottom one to the imagenary one I set up on the channel database
[16:44:43] wagnerrp: that is a drop-down
[16:45:01] Ritalin: let me see which one I set and which one I didn't
[16:45:15] wagnerrp: the other one which can be filled in with any value is to pre-set the internal channel of a tuner, being used for capture in combination with an external channel changer
[16:45:26] wagnerrp: you want to leave that one blank
[16:45:35] wagnerrp: so mythtv treats it as a baseband capture input
[16:47:33] Ritalin: starting channel is the only one I have set
[16:47:47] Ritalin: preset was blank
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[16:55:59] Solaris444: Hi all. For some reason, mythfrontend seems to be ignoring my lircrc file at ~/.mythtv/lircrc and I was wondering if anybody could shed some light on it.
[16:56:13] Solaris444: Do I need a blank line at the start of the file? Or at the end perhaps?
[16:56:21] wagnerrp: are you sure ~ is where you think it is?
[16:56:26] Solaris444: Yes.
[16:56:35] Solaris444: yes.
[16:56:45] Solaris444: It's /home/mythtv/.mythtv
[16:56:49] wagnerrp: there should be logs at the startup of mythfrontend telling you what it is trying to load, and why it would fail
[16:56:53] Solaris444: The frontend is running as user mythtv
[16:57:04] wagnerrp: i mean, are you running mythfrontend directly? or are you running some wrapper script?
[16:57:16] Solaris444: No, running mythfrontend directly.
[16:57:38] wagnerrp: as some wrapper could be altering the location of $HOME in the environment
[16:57:46] Solaris444: What is the log file to look at for mythfrontend?
[16:57:48] wagnerrp: or some startup script could never have properly loaded that user's environment
[16:58:02] Solaris444: It's a standard desktop distribution.
[16:58:02] wagnerrp: logs to terminal, or otherwise where ever you told it to log
[16:58:08] Solaris444: I'm running it on SuSE 12.1
[16:58:27] Solaris444: OK. so try starting mythfrontend from a terminal window?
[16:58:31] wagnerrp: sure
[16:58:46] Solaris444: thanks wagnerrp, I'll give that a try and be right back.
[16:59:12] Solaris444: Incidentally, lircrc is only invoked when starting the frontend right?
[16:59:28] wagnerrp: anything with a GUI
[16:59:41] wagnerrp: that includes mythmessage, mythavtest, and i believe mythtv-setup
[16:59:51] Solaris444: right.
[16:59:58] Solaris444: ok I'll be right back.
[17:02:07] Ritalin: wagnerrp: myth doesn't use something similar to v4l2-ctl to change the input? (composite/svideo/tuner etc)
[17:03:14] wagnerrp: it does the same process, but hits the API calls internally rather than through an external command
[17:05:06] wizbit: wagnerrp: is there a way to stop silly serial numbers being produced on logs?
[17:05:15] wagnerrp: silly serial numbers?
[17:05:22] wizbit: yep mine look like this:
[17:05:37] wizbit: -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 39992 Jul 6 23:21 mythbackend.20120706231556.8705.log
[17:05:40] wizbit: -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 39992 Jul 6 23:22 mythbackend.20120706231648.8732.log
[17:05:43] wizbit: etc
[17:05:45] wizbit: them
[17:05:48] wizbit: lots of htem
[17:05:49] wagnerrp: serial numbers?
[17:06:00] wizbit: '20120706231648.8732' <-- this?
[17:06:08] wizbit: i just want one log
[17:06:10] wizbit: not lots of them
[17:06:17] KenBW2: i seem to have succeeded in completing mythtv-setup on the same machine as that which hosts the database. How do I go about pointing the frontend on a different machine to the newly configured backend?
[17:06:19] wagnerrp: July 06, 2012 23:15:56, PID8705
[17:06:33] wizbit: well i dont require that info
[17:06:36] wagnerrp: what does it matter one log versus hundreds?
[17:06:39] wizbit: its a pain trying to tab a log
[17:06:40] wagnerrp: we do
[17:06:57] wizbit: aye ok
[17:07:01] wagnerrp: why? your backend shouldnt be restarting at any frequence
[17:07:13] wizbit: i did when i had problems
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[17:07:17] wizbit: i guess i can clear them now
[17:07:19] wizbit: and restart it
[17:07:39] wagnerrp: the issue is people send in logs, and they either send in too little, or they send in a massive file containing the last 20 runs
[17:08:02] wagnerrp: separate files means we just ask for one file, and get the whole thing, and only that thing
[17:08:05] wizbit: i see
[17:08:12] wizbit: thats a good ide then
[17:08:15] wizbit: a
[17:08:56] wizbit: the only thing missing is a 4:3 retro theme
[17:09:03] wizbit: there used to be one once
[17:09:24] wagnerrp: it probably wouldnt take long to write a tail-like utility that just keeps tailing the most recent mythbackend file that exists
[17:09:38] wizbit: aye its ok
[17:09:40] Solaris444: Well wagnerrp, I started it from the command line, and it said that it successfully initialised lirc using device /dev/lircd and file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc
[17:09:55] wagnerrp: how are you starting it otherwise?
[17:10:00] wagnerrp: (when it doesnt work)
[17:10:07] Solaris444: It still didn't work.
[17:10:22] Solaris444: I'm just saying that it reported that it was working normally.
[17:10:37] Solaris444: But it still behaves as if lircrc isn't there.
[17:10:40] wagnerrp: use irw, see what device it is accessing, see if it ever reads inputs
[17:10:47] wagnerrp: pastebin your lircrc
[17:11:03] Solaris444: ok. irw shows it is reading inputs.
[17:11:11] Solaris444: That is confirmed.
[17:11:42] Solaris444: But for example, if I press the down arrow, It moves down one item, pauses for a moment and then moves about 4 or 5.
[17:12:26] Solaris444: In /dev I have two devices: /dev/lirc0 and /dev/lircd, but /dev/lircd is just a symlink to /var/run/lirc/lircd
[17:12:35] wagnerrp: sounds right
[17:12:40] wagnerrp: lirc0 is the device from the driver
[17:12:54] Solaris444: Right, that's what I thought.
[17:12:56] wagnerrp: lircd is the multiplex socket that reads the raw code from the driver, and outputs named buttons
[17:13:03] Solaris444: My lircrc file is this one:
[17:13:35] Solaris444: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote#Example_lircrc_config_file
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[17:13:43] Solaris444: But with no spaces before the text
[17:13:50] Solaris444: and no blank line at the start or finish.
[17:14:13] wagnerrp: when you press buttons on your remote, does the output in IRW line up to the codes in that file?
[17:14:39] wagnerrp: the codes being the 'button' definition
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[17:18:54] Solaris444: Well, for example, pressing the down arrow on the remote for produces ^[[B
[17:19:03] Solaris444: As the output.
[17:19:07] wagnerrp: in irw?
[17:19:15] wagnerrp: irw wont output that
[17:19:39] wagnerrp: what you are seeing is X intercepting the button press, and interpreting it as the down arrow keypress
[17:20:14] wagnerrp: you would see the same thing if you started pressing buttons in a text editor
[17:20:30] wagnerrp: in other words, lircd is not sending anything to mythtv for mythtv to process against your lircrc
[17:21:10] Solaris444: Oh.
[17:21:16] Solaris444: odd.
[17:21:23] Solaris444: Any idea why that might happen?
[17:22:06] wagnerrp: when lirc moved into the kernel, Xorg got access to a lot of that information
[17:22:19] wagnerrp: and will attempt to interpret it unless you force it not to
[17:22:27] Solaris444: Wait, should my device in /etc/sysconfig/lirc be set to /dev/lircd or /dev/lirc0
[17:22:29] Solaris444: ?
[17:22:42] wagnerrp: lirc0 is the output from your driver
[17:23:00] wagnerrp: lircd reads that, processes it, and outputs new codes to /var/run/lirc/lircd
[17:23:11] wagnerrp: irw and mythtv then read the output from lircd
[17:23:35] wagnerrp: assuming the keypresses make it that far, and arent intercepted by Xorg
[17:24:34] Hydr0p0nx: myth doesn't appear to be recording, it says it is, but all i get when it's done is viedo that looks like i'm watching an untuned channel
[17:24:45] wagnerrp: meaning static?
[17:24:48] Hydr0p0nx: yes
[17:25:01] wagnerrp: so it is recording, its just using the wrong channel or input
[17:25:35] Hydr0p0nx: correct
[17:25:41] wagnerrp: youve confirmed those channels still exist? charter hasnt dropped them in favor of more room for digital channels?
[17:25:53] Hydr0p0nx: yes, i'm watching one of them now
[17:26:13] wagnerrp: directly on an old tv, not a cable box?
[17:26:14] Hydr0p0nx: on tv and i can watch it without a cablebox
[17:26:34] Hydr0p0nx: was doing that just last night
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[17:38:36] Solaris444: wagnerrp, it looks like setting the device to /dev/lirc0 did it. irw is outputting the correct information. But I'm still getting junk from X.org which is causing problems
[17:39:14] Solaris444: Pressing the down arrow on the remote for example, is causing the menu to move down one space, and then several spaces because it is basically sent twice.
[17:39:23] Solaris444: Once from lirc and once from X.org.
[17:39:28] Solaris444: Any idea how to stop that?
[17:39:50] wagnerrp: i dont recall off hand
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[17:41:36] Solaris444: No worries. I'll try to figure it out. It seems ridiculous to have X.org handle remote control input when lirc already exists to do this.
[17:44:17] wagnerrp: in theory, you get everything properly mapped to a static namespace within X, and everything gets handled automagically through the X event system
[17:44:24] wagnerrp: no end user configuration necessary
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[17:44:46] wagnerrp: in practice, the X event system can only handle keycodes up to 255
[17:45:12] wagnerrp: which makes it completely insufficient for the range of button types you may have from different devices
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[17:53:50] bill6502: wagnerrp: After v0.26-pre-817-g8cdf5da my database won't upgrade, can you comment on lines 46–50 of http://pastebin.com/KwTnqWsU. I'm on Mysql 5.5 .24, if that makes a difference.
[17:56:08] wagnerrp: after? not before?
[17:56:40] wagnerrp: bah...
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[17:58:12] bill6502: Yes, after building g8cdf5da
[17:59:48] Solaris444: wagnerrp, I just read that. About keycodes. Why they thought it was therefore a good idea to have X intercepting stuff from remotes is beyond me.
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[18:00:18] wagnerrp: seemed like a good idea at the time
[18:00:47] Solaris444: *shakes head*
[18:00:49] wagnerrp: bill6502: odd
[18:01:00] Solaris444: I've been writing a setup guide for MythTV. It's almost done.
[18:01:00] wagnerrp: i understand why its failing, but i dont understand why its not failing for me
[18:01:04] Solaris444: Very comprehensive.
[18:01:16] Solaris444: The remote working correctly was the last point.
[18:06:11] wizbit: is the mythzoneminder plugin compatible with zoneminder 1.25 /
[18:06:14] wizbit: ?
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[18:17:09] Hydr0p0nx: bill6502, that looks like an issue with mysql, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/innodb . . . large_prefix
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[18:19:49] bill6502: Hydr0p0nx: Just checked, it isn't set — I'll give it a try, thanks.
[18:24:18] Solaris444: Hydr0p0nx, Is MythTV using InnoDB as its default table type now?
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[18:39:03] Hydr0p0nx: not sure, but it looks like the same problem exists for myisam
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[18:43:42] bill6502: Hydr0p0nx: No joy. I added innodb_large_prefix = 1 (and innodb_file_format = barracuda and innodb_file_per_table = 1 were already set.) Restarted mysqld.
[18:44:35] Hydr0p0nx: myth uses myisam if i'm not mistaken
[18:44:45] wagnerrp: as listed, its myisam and utf
[18:44:58] Hydr0p0nx: the same problem exists for those tables, i just haven't found a workaround for it yet
[18:45:10] wagnerrp: and at 351 characters total, it should be around 1408 bytes, well beyond the 1000 byte limit for indexes
[18:45:18] wagnerrp: so i dont understand why it would work on mine
[18:45:23] wagnerrp: (i do understand why its failing)
[18:46:34] bill6502: But, this could explain why wagnerrp isn't seeing this. There was a discussion on #mythtv a few days ago between 2 DB mavens about the best (my interpretation) .cnf file for
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[18:48:13] bill6502: MythTV. WHICH I IMPLEMENTED on my test box. Dropping the DB and restarting without the IRC discussion is my next step.
[18:50:20] Hydr0p0nx: per: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/myisam . . . -engine.html , The maximum key length is 1000 bytes. This can also be changed by changing the source and recompiling. For the case of a key longer than 250 bytes, a larger key block size than the default of 1024 bytes is used.
[18:50:36] Hydr0p0nx: wagnerrp, did you change source code ? =0
[18:50:48] Hydr0p0nx: or is your table innodb by chance ?
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[18:51:24] wagnerrp: its myisam, it says so right in the table definition
[18:52:23] Hydr0p0nx: just giving you a hard time :)
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[18:56:20] ultrajones: Hello, does anyone know anything about configuring HDHomeRun with MythTV?
[18:57:13] wagnerrp: just ask
[18:57:53] ultrajones: I'm not much of a network guy, and I have a feeling it's as simple as not setting up the ip address correctly.
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[18:58:15] wagnerrp: all you need is a DHCP server on your network
[18:58:24] wagnerrp: mythtv autodetects the device using the device id
[18:58:29] wagnerrp: it does not use the IP address
[18:58:58] ultrajones: ok so I shouldn't make a static route for it, or reserve an ip on the lan?
[18:59:08] wagnerrp: static.... route?
[19:00:03] ultrajones: ok let me back up
[19:00:25] ultrajones: I am getting no device detected when I run hdhomerun_config discover
[19:00:48] wagnerrp: you only need to create a route, if you intend to route your traffic through something
[19:00:49] ultrajones: even though I get lock, but no channels when I run mythtv-setup
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[19:01:27] wagnerrp: for anything on the local logical network, you have ARP tables and access things directly by their MAC address
[19:02:52] ultrajones: ok so on the capture card setup, when I choose hdhomerun there is no device id field available but it does ask for an ip address?
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[19:03:12] wagnerrp: if you cannot perform autodiscovery for your HDHR, then either your HDHR is not picking up an IP address from your DHCP server, or you've managed to put it on a different network
[19:03:27] ultrajones: hmmm...
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[19:03:47] wagnerrp: it uses broadcast packets to discover devices
[19:03:53] wagnerrp: so it must be on the same logical network
[19:03:59] wagnerrp: what network address is your backend?
[19:04:12] ultrajones: well what ip address should I be entering on that mythtv-setup/Capture Card screen?
[19:04:24] wagnerrp: none, you dont want to use an IP address
[19:04:28] wagnerrp: you want to use the device ID
[19:04:38] wagnerrp: the little 8-character code stamped on the bottom of the unit
[19:04:55] ultrajones: ok, so just ignore the fact that it isn't asking for id, but ip and enter the id?
[19:05:12] ultrajones: I'll try it
[19:05:33] ultrajones: I was agonizing over the fact that it wasn't asking for an id
[19:06:27] wagnerrp: assuming your backend and HDHR are on the same logical network, such that broadcast packets are being sent between them, you want to use the ID and let it autodetect
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[19:06:48] wagnerrp: that way, the IP address it gets handed out by the DHCP server is irrelevant
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[19:11:14] wagnerrp: remember that with that device, you have two tuners, and need to define them both individually
[19:11:14] ultrajones: ok, first, thanks for helping out, I appreciate it. Now when I scan for channels I get nothing at all, so let me tell you exactly what I see on the capture card screen, because before, I was at least getting search animations and locks, but no channels
[19:11:34] AndChat116025: Hi, after enabling ipv6 in the configuration, fanart is not displayed anymore. What did I do wrong?
[19:11:40] wagnerrp: is this hooked up to an antenna? or cable?
[19:11:54] ultrajones: antenna
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[19:12:12] wagnerrp: have you tried the device with another program? or its own built in scanner?
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[19:12:16] ultrajones: but my brother about one mile away used this same antenna for his tv and got tons of channels
[19:12:20] wagnerrp: any chance its simply aligned wrong?
[19:12:33] ultrajones: I suppose anything is possible
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[19:15:38] ultrajones: Capture Card Setup... Card type: HDHomeRun DTV tuner box... Available devices: Manually Enter IP Address (this cannot be changed once I choose HDHomeRun above)... Device ID: (the IP Address that I enter below fills in here, otherwise I can't touch it)... Description: blank... IP Address: This is what I've been changing... Tuner:0...
[19:16:13] wagnerrp: the available devices box should be pre-populated
[19:16:21] wagnerrp: mythtv should have detected your unit on the network
[19:16:28] davygrvy: hi, was wondering if someone could help me understand why CEA-909 and "Smart Antenna" is apparently a dead tech?
[19:17:37] AndChat116025: http://pastebin.com/Pa6nx03e this is what i get.
[19:17:53] ultrajones: ah...
[19:18:22] ultrajones: so I need to go back to the network configuration
[19:18:29] ultrajones: hmmm
[19:18:59] wagnerrp: AndChat116025: any reason youre forcing it to listen on the link-local address?
[19:19:29] wagnerrp: better to just leave it ::1
[19:19:38] ultrajones: I believe I am
[19:19:49] wagnerrp: and let it drop back to IPv4
[19:19:52] ultrajones: that isn't on this screen
[19:20:25] AndChat116025: I don.t force it, at least not intentionally. I just set the address in the config.
[19:20:28] wagnerrp: ultrajones: either broadcast traffic is being blocked by your firewall, your HDHR is on a different network, or your HDHR is not operational at all
[19:20:32] ultrajones: hold on... my bro came over and he's going to take a hack at. I'll let you know what happens
[19:20:39] wagnerrp: AndChat116025: right, just leave it ::1
[19:21:04] ultrajones: ok
[19:21:09] ultrajones: thanks. get back to you
[19:21:13] AndChat116025: Its necessary for AirPlay to work.
[19:21:21] wagnerrp: hmm....
[19:21:23] wagnerrp: !seen jya
[19:21:24] MythLogBot: jya is here and has been idle for 19 hours 17 minutes 2 seconds
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[19:21:49] wagnerrp: jya: seen any issues of the MythSocket stuff failing to connect if told to access a link-local address?
[19:22:08] AndChat116025: Jva is who worked with me to get AP working ;-)
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[19:22:54] AndChat116025: jya even.
[19:28:27] davygrvy: Are there any ATSC tuner cards that support CEA-909A and "Smart Antenna"?
[19:34:04] wagnerrp: theres really just limited use for smart antenna
[19:34:23] wagnerrp: either you live in a population center, and dont really even need a directional antenna to get good signal
[19:34:39] wagnerrp: or you live outside a population center, and all your stations are in one general direction anyway
[19:36:08] wagnerrp: generally easier to run multiple antenna to multiple tuners
[19:36:19] wagnerrp: or tie multiple antenna into a single tuner with bandpass filters
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[19:36:34] wagnerrp: then trying to fiddle around with rotors
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[19:54:48] Hydr0: i'm getting unexpected end of file errors in my backend logs for config.xml and mysql.txt
[19:55:07] Hydr0: i'm still connecting to the db ok, just wondering if that's expected
[19:56:29] warped: hi *
[19:56:39] Hydr0: howdy
[19:57:20] warped: Can somebody help me with segfault backtrace reading regarding ticket9726 ?
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[20:01:09] Hydr0: it's crashing ?
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[20:02:31] warped: Yes. backtrace shows concrete function. I commented whole body of this function – and it still crashes referring to the same location :-(
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[20:10:05] Hydr0: it's probably crashing now because it's called from another location and it can't be found ...
[20:13:44] davygrvy: wagnerrp: It would be nice if the tuner could turn the rotator for me. Sorry for the delay was AFK
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[20:19:20] davygrvy: my tvfool radar report gives me 5 directions. There are 2 tough stations opposite each other. It's a shame no one ever made a rotator with CEA-909A control. The Eagle Aspen ROTR100 has DiSEqC control, though, but still after the DTV transition, no pure ATSC receivers had Smart Antenna control again.
[20:22:47] ertyu-m: if they are 180degrees opposite that is fairly easy to grab as many antennas will have a back lob almost as big as the front one
[20:24:10] davygrvy: with 18 of gain on both sides?
[20:25:37] kenni: Doesn't the frontend cache the channel icons anymore with the storagegroup changes in 0.25? I've just removed the full path to the icons, but the icons doesn't get cached on the frontends – on every single vertical navigation in the guide, the frontend pulls all icons from the backend. Is this the intended behaviour?
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[20:28:05] davygrvy: part of the CEA-909A spec was specific for use with rotators.. sad
[20:31:55] davygrvy: Are there any ATSC tuner cards that support CEA-909A and "Smart Antenna"?
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[21:02:11] kenni: Never mind, it was a local issue.
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[21:31:34] bill6502: wagnerrp: There is an extra ',' in the dbcheck.cpp workaround: " PRIMARY KEY (`fileid`),". After removing it, the upgrade works A-OK. FWIW, dropping mythconverg and
[21:32:13] bill6502: reloading it after removing the .cnf additions didn't allow the upgrade to proceed either.
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[21:53:45] wizbit: do you remember mythphone
[21:56:44] wizbit: how do you print a message with:
[21:56:45] wizbit: mythutil --message --bcastaddr 192.168.1.20
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[22:19:51] jya: wagnerrp: if you enter ::1 as address for IPv6 on a combined fronted/backend, you *will* break airplay
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[22:20:33] wizbit: xoɹ ʌʇႡʇʎɯ
[22:20:45] ultrajones: hey wagnerrp, thanks for the help earlier. You were of course correct. It was the firewall. Once that was down, the backend auto detected it like you said. It's working great now.
[22:20:46] natanojl: wizbit: For example like this: mythutil --message --bcastaddr 192.168.1.20 --message_text "Your message goes here" --timeout 3
[22:20:52] wizbit: thanks
[22:20:53] natanojl: wizbit: hehe
[22:20:59] jya: we're back to the usual problem that the backend network settings are used for the frontend. It's still strongly believe it's was a dumb decision to make… until this is fixed… people will have issues.. always
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[22:22:58] jya: With Airplay and iTunes, it will use the IPv6 address if IPv6 is enabled. So if you've configured your backend to only listen to the IPv6 local address, then it won't receive some connections
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[22:31:20] jya: One way it could be worked around as an ugly fix, is always listen on the link-local address, no matter what the user configured...
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[22:50:00] Hydr0: i keep getting this message when a recording starts: ProgramInfo(1054_20120708175300.mpg): GetPlaybackURL: '1054_20120708175300.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found.
[22:50:25] Hydr0: the file name changes each time of course ...
[22:54:34] skd5aner: jya: is anyone suggesting that must be the way to do it, or was it just done that way and no one has looked back?
[22:55:50] jya: wagnerrp: this is how wagnerrp has implemented ServerPool… We've argued about it several times… , was supposed to be changed, in the end nothing has been done… so it's still broken.
[22:57:06] jya: if you have a dual backend/frontend. How you configure your backend with mythtv-setup will affect the behaviour of the frontend as it shares the same settings. On a separate frontend there's no issue, as ServerPool will listen on all interfaces always
[23:02:15] jya: anyone here familiar with using tcpdump ? I'm trying to sniff what the apple TV is sending to iTunes or an iphone to disconnect them when a new device is playing something...
[23:04:21] jya: so I'd like to sniff what's going on the network between two particular IP
[23:08:19] Hydr0: tcpdump -i <interfacename> -w <filename> -f -n -vv -xx
[23:08:24] Hydr0: that should do it
[23:08:37] Hydr0: and give you enough that ethereal/wireshark will be happy
[23:20:08] jya: thanks.. will try that
[23:22:33] jya: Hydr0: is there a way to only listen for a given port ?
[23:23:21] jya: found it (I think)
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[23:34:13] plut0: anyone using mythtv on verizon FIOS?
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[23:48:50] plut0: so quiet in here
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[23:53:02] tank-man: nope
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