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| [05:30:09] | Oleg_: | hi |
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| [05:32:03] | mplexrer: | hi |
| [05:32:22] | mplexrer: | Can anyone help me on DVB Multiplexing and remultiplexing |
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| [05:33:02] | mplexrer: | iso13818 Multiple Programs Mpeg to Transport Stream |
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| [06:51:29] | Sharky112065: | Yes, finally have mythfrontend working on the mpc in the living room. firefly remote and all. Had to use Ubuntu's lirc on Debian Squeeze to get remote working. When I get time, ill see if I can update the wiki for it. I documented all te steps to get it working as I went. |
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| [10:10:46] | earthw0rm: | Is there a DVD ripper in MythTV somewhere? |
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| [10:24:24] | stuartm: | there was, but for some reason it was removed and never replaced |
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| [11:55:15] | Sharky112065: | anyone here know how to setup ceton infinitv4 cards on .25? |
| [11:55:30] | Sharky112065: | Im having some issues I need help with |
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| [13:57:49] | sl1ce: | i have ceton working |
| [13:58:31] | sl1ce: | apparently my video skipping issue is solved! i transfered off of ntfs-3g drive onto ext4 and now smooth as silk |
| [13:59:09] | sl1ce: | kinda made me suspicious that increasing the HD ring buffer had helped ntfs-3g |
| [13:59:10] | Sharky112065: | sl1ce: when I go to the ceton card's web page it brings up my server's web page, and when I ssh to the ceton's ip address it redirects to my server's ip address |
| [13:59:38] | sl1ce: | check your host definitions |
| [13:59:48] | Sharky112065: | where? |
| [13:59:56] | sl1ce: | hmm lemmie remember dat |
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| [14:00:44] | Sharky112065: | I know its not an apache issue because when I ssh from the terminal it directs back to my server |
| [14:00:59] | Sharky112065: | so its not just http |
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| [14:02:20] | sl1ce: | check /etc/hosts |
| [14:02:44] | sl1ce: | make sure the ip of the ceton card isn't defined as localhost |
| [14:03:09] | sl1ce: | or 127.0.0.1 |
| [14:03:48] | sl1ce: | you know the ip of the ceton card correct? |
| [14:04:09] | Sharky112065: | ifconfig shows them as 192.168.200.2 nad 192.168.201.4 |
| [14:04:26] | Sharky112065: | ctn0 and ctn1 respectivly |
| [14:04:30] | sl1ce: | doesnt sound right |
| [14:04:40] | Sharky112065: | 2 cards |
| [14:04:44] | sl1ce: | oic |
| [14:05:07] | Sharky112065: | the server's ip is 192.168.0.1 |
| [14:05:09] | sl1ce: | you can't bring either up in the web browser? |
| [14:05:22] | Sharky112065: | no, they both redirect to my apache web page |
| [14:05:38] | sl1ce: | sounds like a hosts file problem |
| [14:05:42] | Sharky112065: | They worked fine in the Windows 7 computer |
| [14:06:06] | sl1ce: | yea i wanna say your hosts is redirecting you to localhost |
| [14:06:46] | sl1ce: | i don't know why those addresses would ever be in hosts tho |
| [14:07:05] | Sharky112065: | huh? localhost is 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file |
| [14:07:25] | Sharky112065: | the ceton address is not in the hosts file, I just checked |
| [14:07:27] | sl1ce: | something is pushing your traffic to localhost |
| [14:08:01] | Sharky112065: | note: I can go to a different computer say 192.168.0.220 and bring up 192.168.200.2 in the web browser and it brings up my apache server's web page |
| [14:08:19] | sl1ce: | should not be seeing apache |
| [14:08:37] | Sharky112065: | lol I know.. I'm pulling my hair out |
| [14:09:06] | sl1ce: | anything special about your routers config? |
| [14:09:36] | Sharky112065: | nope simple. iptables and nat forwarding |
| [14:09:44] | sl1ce: | maybe put the ceton to a different set of ip withing your subnet |
| [14:10:20] | sl1ce: | yea that should do it |
| [14:10:49] | Sharky112065: | hmm. I dont know how to do that. they are set with dhcp int the interfaces file |
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| [14:11:17] | sl1ce: | probably the different subnets that the ceton is on is getting masked, essentially redirecting to your servers address |
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| [14:11:36] | sl1ce: | your server is 192.168.0 correct? |
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| [14:11:43] | Sharky112065: | yes |
| [14:12:00] | sl1ce: | and ceton is 192.168.200 ? |
| [14:12:07] | Sharky112065: | yes |
| [14:12:07] | sl1ce: | that is a problem |
| [14:12:23] | Sharky112065: | it wasn't on the windows computer |
| [14:12:23] | sl1ce: | you need to put the ceton on .0 |
| [14:12:42] | sl1ce: | yes but the mask is configured different on the windows machine |
| [14:13:03] | sl1ce: | you could change your ethernet to have a mask of 255.255.0.0 |
| [14:13:25] | sl1ce: | that wont mask the third octet |
| [14:13:56] | sl1ce: | you should have the ceton on static ip anyways imo |
| [14:14:22] | sl1ce: | put them at .o addresses that are outside of the dhcp range |
| [14:14:54] | Sharky112065: | do I use those ip's then on the myth-setup configureation? |
| [14:15:00] | sl1ce: | yes |
| [14:15:14] | sl1ce: | that way myth ALWAYS finds those specific ip |
| [14:15:34] | sl1ce: | and no other device can obtain those addy from dhcp |
| [14:15:42] | Sharky112065: | I couldn't find an example anywhere showing what to set them to in the interfaces file except using dhcp |
| [14:16:14] | sl1ce: | it only took a min to change to static, it was the first thing i did when adding to my network |
| [14:17:14] | Sharky112065: | Can I set them to 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11 or should the two cards be further apart? |
| [14:17:54] | sl1ce: | you should put them at atleast 4 apart |
| [14:18:03] | sl1ce: | because each tuner has an ip |
| [14:18:17] | sl1ce: | and put them father from dhcp range |
| [14:18:37] | Sharky112065: | problem is frucking debian squeeze, I have to restart the computer evey time I make a change. stopping and restarting with the init script causes my eth1 aka interface my internet is on not to obtain a new lease from comcast |
| [14:18:45] | sl1ce: | like 192.168.0.150 and 192.168.0.160 |
| [14:19:07] | sl1ce: | you will need to make the change on the ceton web interface |
| [14:19:18] | Sharky112065: | which I cannot get to |
| [14:19:24] | sl1ce: | probably from windows since you cant pull that up from your server |
| [14:19:30] | Sharky112065: | crap |
| [14:19:37] | sl1ce: | laptop? |
| [14:19:54] | Sharky112065: | no, just hate to pull apart all that hardware again |
| [14:20:13] | Sharky112065: | i cannot access the ceton's ip from any computer and I have 7 of tehm |
| [14:20:15] | Sharky112065: | them |
| [14:20:20] | sl1ce: | try putting your eth0 mask to 255.255.0.0 |
| [14:20:25] | Sharky112065: | unless I put them back in a windows computer |
| [14:20:44] | sl1ce: | or eth1 whatever you are using |
| [14:20:53] | sl1ce: | you will need to put a static ip for that also |
| [14:21:00] | Sharky112065: | eth0 is localnet, eth1 is internet |
| [14:21:05] | sl1ce: | which is very good practice to begin with |
| [14:21:40] | Sharky112065: | eth0 has a static ip of 192.168.0.1 eth2 is set by my cable provider via dhcp |
| [14:21:49] | sl1ce: | static ip addressing is a no brainer for your entire network |
| [14:22:13] | sl1ce: | ok change the eth0 mask to 255.255.0.0 |
| [14:22:28] | Sharky112065: | ill give that a try. |
| [14:25:09] | Sharky112065: | What do you have in your interfaces file? can you postbin it? |
| [14:25:22] | sl1ce: | which one is that? |
| [14:25:42] | Sharky112065: | paste it to postbin.com and put the link here |
| [14:25:48] | sl1ce: | which file? |
| [14:26:42] | Sharky112065: | . /etc/network/interfaces you said you set yours up static, so should be there |
| [14:27:06] | sl1ce: | i just use the gui to set mine |
| [14:27:16] | Sharky112065: | ug |
| [14:27:28] | sl1ce: | but i will check that for you |
| [14:28:05] | sl1ce: | top right corner of the bar on debian squeeze has a icon for ethernet |
| [14:28:15] | sl1ce: | you can right click and configure |
| [14:28:41] | Sharky112065: | I do not use that. its disabled |
| [14:28:45] | sl1ce: | edit connections is the right click menu option |
| [14:28:51] | sl1ce: | ok |
| [14:29:11] | Sharky112065: | lol its a server not a workstation |
| [14:29:23] | sl1ce: | auto lo |
| [14:29:24] | sl1ce: | iface lo inet loopback |
| [14:29:42] | sl1ce: | thats all i have in /etc/network/interfaces |
| [14:29:47] | Sharky112065: | may loose you here for a bit |
| [14:29:59] | sl1ce: | i'm gonna have to drop off soon |
| [14:30:00] | Sharky112065: | trying the subnetmask |
| [14:30:17] | sl1ce: | your networking is definitly in rough shape |
| [14:31:09] | sl1ce: | you need to have a strategy for your network devices, messing around with dhcp for servers is not really an option to begin with |
| [14:31:56] | sl1ce: | once you get all that straight you should have nothing else to worry about, the ceton tuner works fantastic |
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| [14:32:58] | Sharky112065: | lol eveything is set up static. I only set up the cetons to be dhcp because I saw examples of othe rpeople doing it that way |
| [14:33:26] | sl1ce: | ok, try to keep everything on the same subnet, then no worries |
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| [14:43:51] | sl1ce: | you see the problem lies in the mask because in binary you are ANDing .200 and .0 with 255 which is equal to .0 in both cases |
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| [15:47:57] | fluid: | hey everybody |
| [15:47:57] | fluid is now known as Guest56330 | |
| [15:48:52] | Guest56330: | I'm currently using the mythtv-setup on freebsd and i need to set the DiSEqC option |
| [15:49:05] | Guest56330: | but in my installation is no "DiSEqC"-button |
| [15:49:25] | Guest56330: | in the tuner-menu |
| [15:49:39] | Guest56330: | does anybody know how to get to these DiSEqC settings? |
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| [16:09:55] | stuartm: | Guest56330: it's on the tuner config page (for dvb-s only) not in the list of tuners itself |
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| [16:40:22] | Guest76138: | there is no option, i already searched for screenshots |
| [16:40:38] | Guest76138: | and i just don't have that option^^ |
| [16:46:49] | Guest76138: | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8009440/Screenshots/n~wq1njvjkme.png |
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| [17:02:17] | sphery: | Guest76138: the "Unknown error" in (what I'm pretty sure translates to something like "Subtype") says that MythTV doesn't know that you have a DVB-S|S2 tuner |
| [17:02:31] | stuartm: | Guest76138: the problem is the "Card Type: Unknown error" – it can't determine that your card is DVB-S |
| [17:02:41] | stuartm: | or what sphery said seconds before me |
| [17:02:41] | sphery: | i.e. seems there's either a problem with your drivers or your user's access to the card (permissions) |
| [17:02:53] | sphery: | stuartm: hehe, you probably have the name right, though |
| [17:02:59] | stuartm: | yeah, probably permissions |
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| [17:05:29] | Guest76138: | I'm running mythtv-setup as root – so there shouldn't be a problem with permissions |
| [17:06:02] | Guest76138: | my tuner is compatible http://wiki.freebsd.org/WebcamCompat and is called ... |
| [17:06:20] | Guest76138: | TechnoTrend S2–3600 |
| [17:06:56] | Guest76138: | w_scan and scan work |
| [17:08:13] | Guest76138: | http://pastebin.com/fKDjT8Ua |
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| [17:11:24] | stuartm: | which version of MythTV? There were some changes to the DVB driver API that aren't supported in versions before 0.25 iirc |
| [17:11:53] | stuartm: | they should be some more information in the log |
| [17:12:10] | stuartm: | Guest76138: make sure you're not running the backend at the same time as mythtv-setup |
| [17:12:44] | Guest76138: | I'm currently running 0.25 |
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| [17:14:06] | Guest76138: | I'm sure the backend issnt running – ps -A | grep myth returns nothing – except "grep myth" of course |
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| [17:21:59] | Guest76138: | and heres my log http://pastebin.com/JcDkJ25C |
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| [17:28:38] | Guest76138: | i think the "eno: no such file or directory (2)" message is caused by the lack of lircd – is lircd required to run mythtv? |
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| [18:03:34] | chriskapp: | hi. |
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| [18:04:20] | chriskapp: | I am attempting to use mytharchive and am getting the error : |
| [18:04:22] | chriskapp: | Error preparing query: SELECT chanid, starttime, mark, offset, type FROM recordedmarkup WHERE chanid = :CHANID and starttime = :STARTTIME; |
| [18:05:16] | chriskapp: | I've looked at my recordedmarkup table and I don't have the offset field. I've got the latest version of mythbuntu fixes as of this morning. |
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| [18:08:47] | chriskapp: | I'm not sure if this is a bug or a broken database. |
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| [18:28:59] | stuartm: | bug, offset was dropped from that table a very long time ago |
| [18:29:14] | stuartm: | mytharchive is currently unmaintained however :/ |
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| [18:30:36] | stuartm: | I'm really not sure what that query is doing anyway, fetching all marks is a waste of time when it probably just wants the cutlist and it should probably use a method from libmythtv instead of querying the DB directly |
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| [18:35:37] | chriskapp: | thank you stuartm. i |
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| [18:42:23] | stuartm: | You can submit a bug report, it might catch someone's attention |
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| [18:52:09] | chriskapp: | Thank you. I've created the ticket. |
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| [19:10:29] | stuartm: | no, thank you |
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| [19:47:35] | Sharky112065: | So.. Had hdhomerun tuners set up. Added ceton tuners, deleted hdhomerun tuners and now mythfilldatabase will not update my guide data |
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| [19:50:14] | sphery: | Sharky112065: indicates improper input connections and/or "ghost" channels |
| [19:50:47] | sphery: | Sharky112065: easiest fix is "Delete all Video Sources", then re-create sources, re-connect inputs, and do Fetch channels from listings source |
| [19:51:36] | Sharky112065: | sigh. Yeah that is what I was about to do. lame. Seems like someone should have coded for that |
| [19:51:50] | Sharky112065: | somebody will eventually delete tuners for newer ones |
| [19:52:50] | Sharky112065: | Also looks like ceton tuners can only do 4 channels per card unlike the hdhomerun that could do 4 with 2 inputs. :( oh well |
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| [20:09:53] | Sharky112065: | dont think it is gonna work |
| [20:10:03] | Sharky112065: | mythfilldatabase running now |
| [20:10:20] | Sharky112065: | but durring setup after wiping all of it out, I saw messages about hdhomrun |
| [20:10:23] | Sharky112065: | on console |
| [20:10:30] | Sharky112065: | well terminal |
| [20:16:05] | Sharky112065: | nope did not work.. guess ill have to completely wipe the database and start over :( |
| [20:19:17] | Sharky112065: | This does not bode well. Im starting to worry that this is not gonna be reliable for me. what happens after months of recording and I change a tuner and eveythig breaks? |
| [20:19:55] | Sharky112065: | Wiping the database will not be an option, especially since the recorded tv files have non descript names. |
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| [20:28:29] | sphery: | Sharky112065: if mythtv-setup is used properly, you can delete tuners and video sources without delete all... the problem is that few people use it properly/know what they need to delete because they don't understand exactly how the configuration works |
| [20:29:06] | sphery: | but mythtv-setup allows you to do the right thing, and can't prevent you from doing what often turns out to be the wrong thing, because the wrong thing for you isn't wrong for someone else in a different situation |
| [20:29:26] | sphery: | so, basically, if you make a mistake, the easiest fix is to start over, so you're starting from a known configuration |
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| [20:30:21] | sphery: | Sharky112065: you may want to do a Delete all Capture Cards (not Delete all Capture Cards on <hostname>) and Delete all Video Sources, to clear out all of your channel and capture card info properly |
| [20:31:04] | sphery: | where ^^^ is the maximum extend of "wiping the database" that will ever be necessary (as that cleans it up exactly as clean as starting a new database) |
| [20:31:10] | sphery: | extent, that is |
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| [20:39:55] | tekdoc: | new patches out for the HVR-1800: http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?m=201206 |
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| [22:01:03] | Sharky112065: | +sphery: I did do a delete allcapture cards not the one for just hoste name. |
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| [22:04:13] | Sharky112065: | +sphery: is there anything else I can do short of wiping the database> |
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| [22:17:28] | Sharky112065: | <+sphery> where ^^^ is the maximum extend of "wiping the database" that will ever be necessary (as that cleans it up exactly as clean as starting a new database) ... unless a bug has been introduced recently. I already found one bug from my last pull |
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| [22:31:47] | sphery: | Sharky112065: Delete all capture cards and Delete all video sources completely clears all the data involved in capture card/channel setup, so if it's still not working, it's not due to old/bad data in the DB |
| [22:32:12] | sphery: | it might be that you've made a mistake in reconfiguring it or there may be some bug that's preventing you from configuring properly |
| [22:35:31] | Sharky112065: | +sphery I just did another pull and building now, ill delete all again and add just one tuner and see if its fixed |
| [22:36:39] | sphery: | what's the bug you saw? |
| [22:37:58] | Sharky112065: | the other one I found? |
| [22:38:07] | stuartm: | sphery: we really should have mythtv-setup do the 'right' thing (cleanup etc) if it's not doing so already, I wasn't aware of this problem earlier otherwise I might have worked on it |
| [22:38:34] | Sharky112065: | was a under video setup on the front end playback and over a few pages, it just went back to the main menu when i hit next |
| [22:38:51] | Sharky112065: | I mentioned it in here, sec ill go find it. |
| [22:39:11] | Sharky112065: | Well this one I just found |
| [22:44:19] | Sharky112065: | sphery: Setup --> Appearance --> LCD Device Display then hit next and it kicks you back to the main menu. You cant get to the next page. |
| [22:44:28] | Sharky112065: | its still in the pull I just did |
| [22:46:31] | Sharky112065: | sphery: do you see it? |
| [22:48:14] | Sharky112065: | sphery: Setup --> Appearance --> --> hit next until you get to LCD Device Display screen, then hit next and it kicks you back to the main menu. You cant get to the next page. |
| [22:48:17] | Sharky112065: | there fixed it |
| [22:49:19] | Sharky112065: | There is an option on a following page that I use. So it will automatically resume where I left off when I start watching a recording that I stoped watching before the end |
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| [23:00:57] | stuartm: | Sharky112065: there is no page after that one, and it's going back to the main menu because after changing appearance settings it has to reload the theme |
| [23:01:44] | Sharky112065: | Hmm, ok, well then I am stupidly not finding the option.. ok thanks ill keep looking after I get the tuner config thing straightened out |
| [23:01:47] | stuartm: | note that it does not say "Next", it says "Finish" |
| [23:02:18] | stuartm: | Sharky112065: the resume from bookmark option is under playback settings iirc |
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| [23:03:34] | stuartm: | "Action on playback exit" – "Save position" |
| [23:04:35] | Sharky112065: | it was not the resume from bookmark option it was an option to bookmark when you stopped watching if I recall correctly |
| [23:04:53] | Sharky112065: | That coupled with resume from bookmark is what I like |
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| [23:07:07] | Sharky112065: | screen 2 of 8 found it Action on playback exit woot. sorry for wasting your time |
| [23:07:17] | Sharky112065: | I havent been getting much sleep trying to get all this running. |
| [23:08:16] | Sharky112065: | Today I spent 6 hours trying to figure out why I could not access the ceton web page for the tuner. had some really smart people helping me. evey time I went to the ip of the page, it took me to my web page. |
| [23:08:52] | Sharky112065: | Finally I jsut stopped my apache web server and still it brought up my web page.. I hit shift refresh and walla there was the ceton page. arg |
| [23:10:00] | Sharky112065: | Some how it was caching my page and a normal refresh or typing in the address did not work |
| [23:13:11] | sphery: | stuartm: it does the right thing--it does exactly what you ask |
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| [23:13:21] | sphery: | but if you ask it to do the wrong thing for you, it will do that |
| [23:13:30] | sphery: | the problem is what's right for you isn't necessarily right for others |
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| [23:14:09] | Sharky112065: | stuartm: sorry did not see your 2nd line above.. thanks |
| [23:14:26] | sphery: | Sharky112065: and my statement was just saying that the DB can't get any cleaner than it gets when you do a delete all on both things, so bugs won't come into play on that part |
| [23:14:34] | sphery: | only on the reconfiguring part |
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| [23:17:31] | Sharky112065: | Well I just did a delete all again so that should take care of it then. we will see |
| [23:19:18] | Sharky112065: | How do I purge the data that gets put in my mythfilldatabase? Maybe that has something to do with it since Ihad data for the hdhomeruns and then added cetons then deleted hdhomeruns. then when realzed not working I deleted all and added just the cetons, and it still would not put in the guuide data |
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| [23:21:04] | sphery: | Sharky112065: deleting the video sources with "Delete All Video Sources" deletes the channels and all program listings |
| [23:21:19] | sphery: | this is what I'm saying... it's as clean as a new database :) |
| [23:21:35] | sphery: | SourceUtil::DeleteAllSources() if you want to see for yourself |
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| [23:25:36] | Sharky112065: | +sphery: http://pastebin.com/j3uims4m |
| [23:25:59] | Sharky112065: | it obviously does not delete eveything |
| [23:28:45] | sphery: | Sharky112065: I think those messages are just mythtv-setup trying to populate the combo box with info on devices you have |
| [23:29:09] | sphery: | caused by call to CardUtil::GetHDHRdesc() in HDHomeRunConfigurationGroup::FillDeviceList() |
| [23:29:31] | Sharky112065: | ah ok that makes sense then. so what is the exact mythfilldatabase with options I should run after setting up tuners, maybe im messing that up? |
| [23:29:38] | sphery: | where that call is in a loop, looping over devices returned by CardUtil::ProbeVideoDevices("HDHOMERUN") |
| [23:31:24] | sphery: | IMHO, you should create capture cards, create video source(s), connect input, scan for channels (assuming this is not a Prime, or fetch channels if a prime), then manually fix all the xmltvids using mythweb channel editor (assuming it's not a Prime--it will have proper xmltvids if you did a Fetch channels instead of a scan...), then run mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [23:32:20] | sphery: | if you scan for channels, then run Fetch channels... there's a good chance that you'll have garbage from the scan that mfdb can't relate to the SD-provided channels, so you'll get duplicate/shadow channels |
| [23:32:58] | sphery: | meaning it will populate listings info for shadows and it will look like there's no data--because the only channels with data aren't set up for your card/aren't recordable |
| [23:33:29] | sphery: | I never trust the "blindly hope that mfdb can figure out which channel is which based on the garbage it found on the scan" |
| [23:36:04] | Sharky112065: | sphery:hmm that is what I did exactly. fetch instead of scan because I have two ceton infinitv4 cards, then I did mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [23:36:50] | sphery: | ah, yeah, you took out the HDHR |
| [23:36:55] | Sharky112065: | what should the channel freq table be set to? |
| [23:37:11] | sphery: | likely us-cable (standard) |
| [23:37:21] | sphery: | maybe hrc (very unlikely irc) |
| [23:37:32] | Sharky112065: | yes, but I went back in and deleted all and added the cetons then did the mythfill database again and no guiide data |
| [23:38:26] | sphery: | and there's none in db? |
| [23:38:36] | sphery: | select count(*) from program; |
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| [23:41:00] | Sharky112065: | ill check again after this setup and fill is done |
| [23:41:59] | Sharky112065: | Do I want perform eit scan selected in the Video Sources Setup? |
| [23:42:14] | Sharky112065: | I did not check it previously |
| [23:42:26] | sphery: | generally you want it unselected on the video source if you're using Schedules Direct |
| [23:42:45] | sphery: | because otherwise, you have to disable it on each individual channel that uses Schedules Direct data |
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| [23:43:46] | Sharky112065: | Ok thanks |
| [23:53:53] | Sharky112065: | Pulling in guide data now |
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| [23:59:54] | Sharky112065: | #$@$%@@% no friken guide data |
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