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| [02:10:31] | FuzzyTheBear: | im having a time locating good documentation on how to install / use mythtv for Sabayon. any pointer to a good document will be appreciated . |
| [02:10:58] | [R]: | its the same as anything |
| [02:11:00] | [R]: | downlod the source |
| [02:11:01] | [R]: | compiled it |
| [02:11:03] | [R]: | follow the directions |
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| [03:33:27] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you about? |
| [03:34:27] | wagnerrp: | does mythgallery have access to the Internal player? or does it require external tools for video? |
| [03:34:38] | Beirdo: | yes, it uses internal player now |
| [03:34:56] | Beirdo: | I believe stuartm beat me to the punch on that one just before 0.25 |
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| [03:52:05] | tom_: | hi all, just updated from 0.23 to 0.25 |
| [03:52:27] | tom_: | I imported my db and can connec tto my backend and watch old recordings |
| [03:52:42] | tom_: | Problem I'm having is that all of my tuners are shown as unavilable |
| [03:52:51] | tom_: | I need some help debugging |
| [03:53:30] | tom_: | I have 2 Pinnacle 800I tuners and a PVR-150 |
| [03:53:48] | tom_: | I've added them to udev and have prolper simlinks set up |
| [03:54:47] | tom_: | I've tested the PVR-150 from the command line (cat /dev/video0 > my.mpg) and it dumps mpeg video just fine |
| [03:55:36] | tom_: | The Pinnacle tuners are hybrid analog/dvb tuners |
| [03:56:22] | wagnerrp: | is your hostname the same? |
| [03:56:33] | wagnerrp: | file permissions issues? |
| [03:56:42] | tom_: | hostname is the same |
| [03:57:21] | tom_: | I can read/write to the recording director |
| [03:58:00] | wagnerrp: | what about the user that runs mythbackend? |
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| [03:59:20] | tom_: | yep, that user is OK too |
| [04:05:05] | tom_: | wagnerrp – how can I double check if my server name was the same as it was before? |
| [04:16:03] | wagnerrp: | have to add your tuners again? |
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| [04:22:36] | tom_: | Just tried deleting all of my tuners and added just the PVR-150 |
| [04:22:39] | tom_: | still locked |
| [04:23:06] | tom_: | I tried deleting all again and adding just the Pinnacle tuner and it was also locked |
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| [06:45:20] | Beirdo: | frick |
| [06:45:31] | Beirdo: | mythbackend's at 110% CPU. |
| [06:45:38] | Beirdo: | we GOTTS fix that stupid bug |
| [06:45:45] | [R]: | fricky frick frick |
| [06:45:49] | Beirdo: | gotta find it first |
| [06:45:51] | [R]: | i had a friend in high school who would say frick |
| [06:46:29] | Beirdo: | I can tell you what part of the code's the problem (basically) |
| [06:46:55] | Beirdo: | it seems to be related directly to the use of the playback ring buffer in the backend |
| [06:47:05] | Beirdo: | as soon as playback stopped... 2% |
| [06:47:23] | Beirdo: | but as it's playing, it steadily grows in CPU usage |
| [06:47:46] | Beirdo: | and something is steadily growing in memory usage, but it might be completely unrelated |
| [06:48:53] | [R]: | it keeps growing? |
| [06:49:02] | [R]: | cuz you know... that's what she said |
| [06:49:21] | Beirdo: | hit play on the next show... 3% -> 80% instantly |
| [06:49:25] | Beirdo: | grrr |
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| [07:02:07] | Beirdo: | oooh, hit 150% |
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| [07:06:28] | [R]: | you missed 88 |
| [07:06:31] | [R]: | so you didnt time travel |
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| [11:23:40] | paulgardiner: | Just bought a blu-ray drive for my frontend, thinking that blu-ray support was pretty much there, but just now read about the lack of BD+. What are people's experiences? Are new titles mostly protected with BD+ these days? |
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| [11:52:10] | paulgardiner: | No one? |
| [11:54:43] | dekarl: | paulgardiner: I've heard that makemkv handles BD+ |
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| [11:55:48] | paulgardiner: | dekarl: yeah, but I was hoping to play directly from the disc |
| [11:57:18] | dekarl: | I see, I'm trying to avoid to have to locate my physical copy (have to get up and stuff :) |
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| [12:01:57] | dekarl: | man, I wanted to lookup QLALR to see if its a good parser generator for the procotocal handler in the backend, but nokia is unreachable from here... (maybe because my provider doesn't want to sell their latest Microsoft phone? ^^) |
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| [16:28:40] | RagingMind: | someone in here mentioned that there was an option or a way to get my mythfrontend to go to sleep/suspend, but I haven't found it in the options |
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| [16:40:45] | spacedementia87: | hi all anyone able to give me a hand with an error? |
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| [16:45:37] | dekarl: | depends on the error |
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| [17:04:05] | spacedementia87: | I get told that all my tuners are busy even though I am not doing anything |
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| [17:07:46] | dekarl: | there was a but in early 0.25 when trying to change channels via the guide |
| [17:07:51] | dekarl: | s/but/bug/ |
| [17:08:05] | dekarl: | see http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10566 |
| [17:08:06] | spacedementia87: | I can't even start watching live tv let alone change channel |
| [17:08:31] | dekarl: | is that an iptv tuner? |
| [17:09:23] | spacedementia87: | It is a USB DVB-T2 tuner |
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| [17:09:27] | dekarl: | just looked up your hostname, sounds like UK? |
| [17:11:25] | spacedementia87: | yes |
| [17:13:41] | dekarl: | got to leave for a while (dinner is ready) |
| [17:13:45] | spacedementia87: | using this tuner |
| [17:13:46] | spacedementia87: | http://www.ebuyer.com/246099-pctv-nanostick-t . . . -stick-23076 |
| [17:13:48] | spacedementia87: | ok then |
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| [19:52:17] | fully_human: | Hey, all. I was wondering if anyone could recommend a TV tuner with a PCI-e connection (preferably around $50 or less). I've been searching for ages online. I have Linux Mint 12. Thanks. :-) |
| [19:52:59] | wagnerrp: | what do you want to record? |
| [19:53:25] | fully_human: | Digital TV. |
| [19:53:39] | Seeker`: | Terrestial? |
| [19:53:42] | Seeker`: | Cable? |
| [19:53:46] | wagnerrp: | satellite? |
| [19:53:47] | Seeker`: | Satelite? |
| [19:53:48] | fully_human: | Oh, Cable. |
| [19:53:56] | wagnerrp: | QAM? DVB-C? |
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| [19:54:17] | Sharky112065: | probably QAM |
| [19:54:39] | wagnerrp: | north america? |
| [19:54:53] | fully_human: | Yup. |
| [19:55:01] | wagnerrp: | US or canada? |
| [19:55:09] | fully_human: | Ah, US. |
| [19:55:32] | wagnerrp: | are you looking for everything? or would you be satisfied with just the local broadcast stations? |
| [19:55:43] | fully_human: | Everything. |
| [19:55:48] | wagnerrp: | what carrier? |
| [19:56:05] | fully_human: | Wow, it matters that much? |
| [19:56:12] | wagnerrp: | yup |
| [19:56:19] | fully_human: | Comcast. |
| [19:56:41] | wagnerrp: | with comcast, you can get a cablecard tuner that will be able to capture everything you subscribe to but the premiums |
| [19:56:43] | Sharky112065: | Definatly QAM |
| [19:56:50] | wagnerrp: | that means no HBO, no showtime, etc... |
| [19:57:19] | fully_human: | Thanks. |
| [19:57:22] | wagnerrp: | your options are currently a DCR-2650, HDHomeRun Prime, and InfiniTV |
| [19:57:34] | wagnerrp: | USB, ethernet, and PCIe respectively |
| [19:57:37] | wagnerrp: | all well over $100 |
| [19:57:54] | wagnerrp: | and will require an m-card rental from comcast |
| [19:58:15] | wagnerrp: | which depending on how your local franchise is set up, the first one may be free, or it could be up to several dollars per month |
| [19:58:28] | Sharky112065: | Well if all he wants is the Clear QAM channels like locals, he could get a HDHOMERUN (not prime) sometimes there are sales for around 75 bucks |
| [19:58:47] | wagnerrp: | but thats not "Everything" |
| [19:59:11] | Sharky112065: | Yep, he would not get all the channels. |
| [20:01:47] | spacedementia87: | When I use my live TV from mythbox though XBMC the whole system freezes if i use channel numbers to change channel |
| [20:02:08] | wagnerrp: | cant help with that |
| [20:02:17] | wagnerrp: | do you see similar problems attempting livetv using mythfrontend? |
| [20:02:26] | Sharky112065: | I've got most everything setup and working well now (backend, frontend, comercial skipping, etc...) but the audio is out of sync. And when I adjust it with option O --> sound it adjusts for one recorded program, but when I view a different recorded program on a differnt network it is close but not in sync. |
| [20:03:10] | Sharky112065: | leme watch some live tv and see if it does it there as well. |
| [20:04:05] | wagnerrp: | how are you playing audio? |
| [20:04:17] | wagnerrp: | is this just on a PC monitor with computer speakers? |
| [20:04:24] | wagnerrp: | or a TV with TV speakers? |
| [20:04:38] | wagnerrp: | or a TV with sound run to some external amplifier? |
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| [20:06:02] | wagnerrp: | digital TVs can often have tens or even hundreds of milliseconds of internal latency on their inputs |
| [20:06:24] | wagnerrp: | if the audio is not being run through the TV, the TV will not be able to compensate for it and add the necessary delay |
| [20:06:45] | spacedementia87: | Myth frontend works fine |
| [20:07:11] | wagnerrp: | i *think* there is some global offset somewhere, i know it was discussed at some point |
| [20:07:16] | Sharky112065: | the front end is on the same computer that the back end is on.. monitor with alsa |
| [20:07:28] | Steve-Goodey: | wagnerrp: Hi, a few times I've deleted spam from pages on the wiki. Am I getting on your nerves doing this? |
| [20:07:41] | wagnerrp: | spacedementia87: if mythfrontend works, but mythbox does not, then you need to talk to the people who write mythbox |
| [20:07:47] | wagnerrp: | it is third party software, not maintained by us |
| [20:07:57] | wagnerrp: | Steve-Goodey: by all means, continue |
| [20:08:13] | Sharky112065: | Its odd though because both sagetv (beyond tv before that) and Media center the audio is always in sync for both live tv and recorded |
| [20:08:22] | Steve-Goodey: | OK, thanks. |
| [20:08:23] | wagnerrp: | if im not around to delete them immediately, and no one else blanks them, then the spammers get what they want and their links are showing up on web crawler scans |
| [20:08:56] | wagnerrp: | Sharky112065: is this actually alsa? or alsa routed through pulseaudio? |
| [20:09:06] | wagnerrp: | (in turn routed back through alsa) |
| [20:09:08] | Sharky112065: | no pulseaudio |
| [20:09:24] | Steve-Goodey: | wagnerrp: So the quicker deleted the better? |
| [20:09:29] | Sharky112065: | well um. how do I check that. I do not have any pulseaudio devices |
| [20:09:47] | Sharky112065: | on the sound setup page it shows alsa |
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| [20:10:11] | wagnerrp: | does the sound setup page scan when you enter, or is there still a scan button? |
| [20:10:28] | Sharky112065: | There is a scan buttton |
| [20:11:03] | wagnerrp: | when you scan, nothing pulse shows up? |
| [20:11:18] | Sharky112065: | sec.. ill do it. back in a few min |
| [20:11:20] | wagnerrp: | possibly quicker way, just see if there is any 'pulseaudio' process running |
| [20:11:26] | wagnerrp: | ps ax | grep pulse |
| [20:11:57] | wagnerrp: | it should be improved by now, but for years there were audio latency issues stemming from pulseaudio usage |
| [20:12:05] | Sharky112065: | ps ax | grep pulse returned nothing |
| [20:12:15] | wagnerrp: | good bet its not installed then |
| [20:12:37] | wagnerrp: | Steve-Goodey: pretty much, they cant possibly expect users would actually click on the stuff |
| [20:13:02] | wagnerrp: | so the only reason for them to exist is to add links to their site, from other popular sites, in order to get their page rankings up |
| [20:13:13] | wagnerrp: | remove the link before the next scan, they get nothing |
| [20:13:42] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if any web crawlers are smart enough to know to check the recent changes page for updates |
| [20:14:02] | Sharky112065: | +wagnerrp: so I should install pulseaudio? |
| [20:14:25] | wagnerrp: | chances are you have no use for pulseaudio |
| [20:14:54] | wagnerrp: | pulseaudio doesnt actually have any hardware support, all the hardware drivers are written for alsa (and to a much lesser extent oss) |
| [20:15:05] | wagnerrp: | pulseaudio just sits as a middle layer to allow dynamic routing |
| [20:15:34] | wagnerrp: | i.e. allowing one to switch from speakers to headphones to a bluetooth headset and back with no disruption to programs |
| [20:16:34] | Sharky112065: | so what do I need to do to fix my audio sync issue? |
| [20:16:52] | wagnerrp: | beyond those two issues, i dont know |
| [20:16:59] | wagnerrp: | i dont deal much with audio |
| [20:17:10] | Sharky112065: | i do remember seeing something in a log file about sound buffering.. ill check that again |
| [20:17:22] | wagnerrp: | and it seems the audio guy isnt currently around |
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| [20:17:43] | wagnerrp: | the warning in the log about something being set too low, and your user account not having the privileges to change it? |
| [20:17:55] | wagnerrp: | i know of that warning, i dont really know what it does |
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| [20:18:13] | Sharky112065: | well I have not gone live yet, so still have time. trying to work out all the kinks before I add my ceton cards and make the switch final. |
| [20:18:33] | Sharky112065: | no it was a sound buffer warning |
| [20:18:58] | Sharky112065: | which may be the cause of my issue.. ill check the log, will take me a bit to get back to you. |
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| [20:30:38] | Sharky112065: | playing the mpg file just on the desktop without mythfrontend there is no audio sync issue.. still going through log files... |
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| [20:36:20] | Sharky112065: | +wagnerrp: ---> http://pastebin.com/vc02sLfY |
| [20:38:20] | Sharky112065: | my sudo requires a password, so maybe changing that will fix it? |
| [20:40:21] | wagnerrp: | mythtv does not use sudo for anything |
| [20:40:27] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, changing it so sudo does not require a password? |
| [20:40:32] | tgm4883: | that sounds like a bad ida |
| [20:41:34] | Sharky112065: | well looks like mythfrontend is trying to do a sudo. mythfrontend is run as a user and if it requires a psssword to complete the command it will not work. |
| [20:41:54] | tgm4883: | what you should do is make sure the user you are running the frontend as has the proper permission to alter the sound device |
| [20:42:27] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, mythfrontend has no concept of sudo |
| [20:42:29] | wagnerrp: | the logs are a notice telling YOU to call sudo and that command |
| [20:42:38] | wagnerrp: | it does not try to use sudo for anything itself |
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| [20:50:35] | Sharky112065: | I am a member of the audio group, outside of that I do not know what to do to give myself permissions |
| [20:50:59] | Sharky112065: | I do not want to have to run that command every time before I start the front end |
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| [20:51:11] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, which command? |
| [20:51:27] | tgm4883: | echo 192 | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc |
| [20:51:30] | tgm4883: | that one? |
| [20:51:46] | Sharky112065: | the one the log file is telling me to do. echo 192 | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc |
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| [20:52:31] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, can you do this without error |
| [20:52:33] | Sharky112065: | so trying to get this to go away so it can do it on its own... ALSA: Error opening /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc: Permission denied. |
| [20:52:39] | tgm4883: | echo 192 | tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc |
| [20:52:43] | Sharky112065: | ill try it.. sec |
| [20:52:59] | tgm4883: | the answer is probably no |
| [20:53:23] | Sharky112065: | yes |
| [20:54:05] | tgm4883: | interesting |
| [20:54:16] | tgm4883: | and mythfrontend is being ran as your user? |
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| [20:55:28] | Sharky112065: | yes it is |
| [20:57:01] | Sharky112065: | That also fixed the sync issue |
| [20:57:55] | ** tgm4883 shrugs ** | |
| [20:57:57] | Sharky112065: | so now I need to figure out why mythfrontend cannot do that on its own as my normal user but I can do it stand alone as my normal user (normal user = mike aka not root) |
| [20:58:18] | Sharky112065: | oh .. because its using sudo |
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| [20:58:25] | tgm4883: | no |
| [20:58:33] | tgm4883: | it's not using sudo |
| [20:58:35] | Sharky112065: | well I was |
| [20:58:39] | tgm4883: | well yes |
| [20:58:49] | tgm4883: | you were suppose to try it without sudo |
| [20:59:03] | Sharky112065: | oh.. k sec |
| [20:59:06] | tgm4883: | which is what I posted |
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| [20:59:10] | tgm4883: | <tgm4883> echo 192 | tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc |
| [20:59:32] | Sharky112065: | permission denied |
| [20:59:44] | tgm4883: | thats better |
| [20:59:49] | Sharky112065: | sorry about that, I misunderstood |
| [21:00:06] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, so what user:group owns /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc |
| [21:00:26] | Sharky112065: | checking |
| [21:01:26] | Sharky112065: | root user root group |
| [21:03:28] | tgm4883: | yea that seems right |
| [21:03:40] | Sharky112065: | so if I change the group to audio which I am a member of, will it work? and will that persist through a reboot? |
| [21:03:59] | tgm4883: | no it should be root:root, and it wouldn't persist though a reboot |
| [21:04:30] | Sharky112065: | thats what I thought.. Just dont know what to do to get mythfrontend to be able to adjust the setting on its own |
| [21:05:09] | ** tgm4883 shrugs ** | |
| [21:05:23] | tgm4883: | did you have to add yourself to the audio group? |
| [21:05:30] | Sharky112065: | no |
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| [21:06:48] | Sharky112065: | It's a Debian Squeeze install so it added me automagically when I installed |
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| [21:12:11] | Sharky112065: | hmm. looking at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO I did what it said uner the section "rlimits" wonder if I need to change @audio – rtprio 50 to 192 |
| [21:13:52] | Sharky112065: | might be two diff things, I dont know :( |
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| [21:17:51] | StevenR: | can I add a storage group/place without restarting the backend or quitting it? |
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| [21:18:44] | StevenR: | I've added some more disks, and I'd like to make use of them :) |
| [21:21:35] | tgm4883: | StevenR, I don't think so |
| [21:22:15] | tgm4883: | I'm unsure if there are some things in mythtv-setup that don't need the backend stopped though |
| [21:23:49] | Sharky112065: | I suppose I could run that proc adjustment in /etc/rc.local at startup. but it would be nice if mythfrontend could do it. |
| [21:30:10] | Sharky112065: | lol guess I was right.. ever google search I did on that said to put it in /etc/rc.local.. so that method it is I guess :) |
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| [21:45:08] | lapion: | how can I fix inverted colours during playback of video |
| [21:49:20] | Seeker`: | lapion: inverted? or just wrong? |
| [21:49:31] | Seeker`: | lapion: try changing saturation |
| [21:49:53] | Seeker`: | hmm |
| [21:49:56] | Seeker`: | think I meant Hue |
| [21:49:58] | lapion: | nvm was fixed setting hue to 50% |
| [21:50:39] | lapion: | only strange thing is in opengl the colors where correct too bad opengl is to heavy for my system |
| [21:52:14] | lapion: | are there any tricks to get rid of tearing ? |
| [21:52:39] | dmz: | howdy y'all, i'm looking to upgrade my old via frontends to be able to upgrade to .25; what'st he best for the price these days? |
| [21:54:37] | Sharky112065: | so adding a line in /etc/rc.local to chmod 777 the file in /proc/.... did the trick. mythtvbackend is now able to set the buffer size on its own. verified by checking the logs |
| [21:55:17] | Sharky112065: | mythtvfrond end rather.. doh |
| [21:55:23] | Sharky112065: | frontend |
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| [21:56:20] | Sharky112065: | +sphery: that might should be added to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO |
| [21:57:11] | Sharky112065: | add "/bin/chmod 777 /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/prealloc" to /etc/rc.local |
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| [22:09:48] | lapion: | anyone having trouble reaching kernellabs.org |
| [22:09:50] | lapion: | ? |
| [22:11:13] | Sharky112065: | hmmm. thats a bug. every time I watch a recording in mythtvfrontend it increases the ALSA buffer size. keeps going up and up |
| [22:12:52] | Sharky112065: | increases the current value by 190 each time. |
| [22:23:00] | ** Sharky112065 checks all options to make sure it is a bug before filing his first bug report/ticket ** | |
| [22:31:43] | ertyu-m: | lapion, yes |
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