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Friday, June 8th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:58] wagnerrp: need to make sure that makes it into the install docs for 0.26
[00:01:09] wagnerrp: perhaps add some sanity check to mythtv-setup
[00:02:29] doq: shouldnt these things be changed in the source?
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[00:02:39] doq: or are they not universally compatible
[00:03:03] wagnerrp: are what?
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[00:03:25] doq: __u16 instead of uint16_t and then swapping out malloc for stdlib
[00:03:29] doq: er
[00:03:34] doq: vice versa on the first
[00:04:19] doq: i can quickly document what i did if it helps
[00:04:22] wagnerrp: i think it works on linux, and no one has bothered getting a lot of this code to work outside of linux because there are no driver APIs to use it with outside of linux
[00:04:29] doq: yeah
[00:04:37] doq: just wondering if these changes would break it on linux
[00:05:08] wagnerrp: if you wish, go ahead and write up a patch, stick it in trac, and let someone try to compile it elsewhere
[00:05:25] wagnerrp: might want to check the build in the ports system
[00:05:30] wagnerrp: i know they patch some things
[00:05:35] doq: ya
[00:05:46] wagnerrp: but ive never gotten around to looking through the patches and incorporating them
[00:05:53] wagnerrp: ive always built from source
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[00:30:34] tgm4883: I don't recall who I was discussing oldrecorded with a few days ago, but I have 8,541 items in oldrecorded
[00:31:17] wagnerrp: thats not unreasonable
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[00:31:39] tgm4883: wagnerrp, I forget, but we were discussing slow scheduler runs
[00:31:48] tgm4883: 10+ seconds
[00:31:55] doq: well, i was able to scan for channels but not get any
[00:32:04] wagnerrp: the larger that table gets, the more difficult it is to do duplicate matching
[00:32:06] doq: saw this in the logs: FE_GET_INFO ioctl failed (/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) eno: Device not configured (6)
[00:32:11] wagnerrp: and the slower scheduler runs will get
[00:32:22] tgm4883: I can just do "mythbackend --testsched" or is there a better way?
[00:32:37] doq: thinking this is webcamd related
[00:32:57] wagnerrp: just read through the backend logs, there are mentions of how long the scheduler takes
[00:33:03] wagnerrp: it will run itself periodically
[00:33:19] wagnerrp: if you want, the smolt stuff takes average and stddev of the last several runs
[00:33:36] wagnerrp: you can call that and have it dump to the terminal, rather than uploading a profile
[00:33:54] tgm4883: wagnerrp, I just ran that, takes 3.4 seconds
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[02:12:29] ThisNewGuy: Thanks sphery!
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[02:31:43] sphery: ThisNewGuy: hehe, and hope you don't have too many recordings for your system to re-work... can set up a script to do it, but it can take a lot of time
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[09:44:04] Hanbaal: Howdy all. Iv'e got a AverTV Volar HD tv card (A835) which is aparantly compatible with something, somewhere http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices Mythtv tells me i have no configured tuners. How do i configure a tuner or is there a how to somewhere?
[09:45:48] rileyp: open mythtv setup select tuners then your tuner then dvb3.0
[09:46:40] rileyp: then video sources and create a new source then inputs and slect your card and source and then do a channel scan
[09:47:46] rileyp: You really should read the mythtv setup guide
[09:48:01] rileyp: as it is complex as its very powerfull
[09:48:41] Hanbaal: yes it seems to be. where is that guide?
[09:49:10] Hanbaal: ah found it
[09:49:56] rileyp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Settin . . . rrestrial%29
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[09:53:28] Hanbaal: cheers. though i dont seem to be able to find tuners in setup
[09:53:51] rileyp: Hanbaal: http://whrl.pl/RdamRz
[09:54:52] rileyp: Hanbaal: look in dmesg so try dmesg |grep dvb and see what you get
[09:56:58] rileyp: Hanbaal: you should see somethin akin to this dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer.
[09:57:11] rileyp: along with a host of other stuff
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[10:00:57] Hanbaal: nope youve lost me now.....
[10:02:34] Hanbaal: nothing seems to say "Tuners"
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[10:04:25] rileyp: Hanbaal open a terminal and type dmesg |grep dvb
[10:04:46] rileyp: and see if your tuner is autodetected
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[10:08:05] rileyp: Hanbaal if you tuner is ready to work then after you type dmesg |grep frontend in a terminal you should see something like this DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (DiBcom 7000PC)...
[10:08:24] Hanbaal_: ah, i think its not supported
[10:09:27] Hanbaal_: hang on
[10:09:55] rileyp: sony playtv or kiaser bass tuner
[10:13:00] Hanbaal_: nope no idea. neither of those commands seem to do anything
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[10:33:15] Hanbaal_: with tvtime i get "no video source"
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[11:49:03] ThisNewGuy: sphery – it's like 1000+ recordings :-( – How important is the --rebuild step?
[11:51:23] sphery: less important with current MythTV than previous ones
[11:52:00] sphery: but you won't be able to edit recordings without doing that, and may have issues skipping and/or strange duration info
[11:52:17] sphery: that said, --rebuild will likely take 1/100th the time of commflag
[11:52:44] ThisNewGuy: k – in other words I should just do it
[11:52:48] sphery: actually... now that I think about it, it's quite possible commflagging won't work without a seektable, so --rebuild may be required for commercial dection
[11:52:51] sphery: detection
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[11:53:17] sphery: yeah, IMHO, --rebuild is more important than flagging (as you can always skip forward/backward to skip commercials)
[11:53:28] sphery: and/or just edit the recording to cut out commercials
[11:53:47] sphery: ThisNewGuy: also, you /may/ want to consider using this opportunity to "clean up" Watch Recordings
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[11:54:02] sphery: the UI in Watch Recordings isn't designed for management of a large collection of videos
[11:54:09] sphery: however, the Video Library is
[11:54:29] sphery: so, you could just move the recordings to Video Library
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[11:55:02] sphery: which allows you to use useful file names, directories for organization, and still has great metadata available
[11:55:33] sphery: and can browse the library without having to use filters, etc... i.e. just move from folder to folder to find what you want
[11:56:03] sphery: (with any number of levels, as desired)
[11:56:47] sphery: however, for archival, you may want to edit and do a lossless transcode before moving, which means you'd need to --rebuild at minimum...
[11:58:11] ** ThisNewGuy is thinking about moving to the Video Library **
[11:58:18] sphery: I'd actually suggest if you're editing you don't do the commercial flagging--I find it's actually quicker/easier to just create new cuts in my recordings than to move around existing cuts, so I don't even import the commercial list, anymore
[11:59:01] sphery: I actually never liked Video Library until wagn errp and iamlindoro explained to me how to configure it properly
[11:59:03] ThisNewGuy: sphery – have you done transcoding with recent builds – I get failed files every time
[11:59:44] sphery: basically, in each view (Gallery, List, Browse), disable the "Flat view" and disable "Browse files"...
[11:59:55] sphery: which both have new names, IIRC, but don't remember what the new names are
[12:00:17] sphery: and, no, I haven't, but several users have reported issues with current unstable mythtranscode
[12:00:26] sphery: so, perhaps now isn't the ideal time to think about the move
[12:01:25] ThisNewGuy: can you explain this: "if you're editing you don't do the commercial flagging--I find it's actually quicker/easier to just create new cuts in my recordings than to move around existing cuts, so I don't even import the commercial list, anymore" – does that mean you manually flag the commercials instead of using the commflagger?
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[12:12:17] ThisNewGuy: also do you have any suggestions on how to write a script to do this – any way to tell which files need rebuild and which need comm flagging?
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[12:29:54] sphery: ThisNewGuy: sorry, got distracted by an e-mail I'd been meaning to send... With the edit recordings interface, creating a new cut is as simple as hitting SELECT (Space/Enter). Moving a cut requires either use of MENU (and much thinking... "Do I want to 'Move Previous Cut End Here' or 'Move Next Cut Start Here'?" (when you're trying to extend a cut) or "Do I want to 'Move Start of Cut Here' or 'Move End of Cut Here'?" (when you're ...
[12:30:00] sphery: ... trying to shorten a cut)).
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[12:30:50] sphery: ThisNewGuy: and since the detected commercials can't be completely trusted, you /still/ have to flip through the rest of the video and, possibly through the cut portions, to verify the list
[12:31:39] sphery: so I just flip to 1m skips, then start skipping until I find a commercial break, then find exact start/end and hit SELECT on each, then go back to 1m skips and repeat
[12:32:24] ThisNewGuy: I see – but you just do that if you're going to transcode (cut commercials) you don't do that on every recording, right?
[12:32:40] sphery: (actually, because switching skip amount is annoying, I get even fancier... I set to 1m skips, find each commercial break and put in a 1m cut in each, but completely within the commercial break
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[12:33:53] sphery: then I can use the key for jumping to prev/next commercial (page up/down? or home/end? or ?) and using a smaller skip distance find the exact start/end and just "surround" the existing cut with a new cut to extend it)
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[12:35:08] sphery: ThisNewGuy: and, yeah, I'd only do that if I were going to keep the recording (either with commecials there, but "cut", or if doing a lossless transcode)
[12:35:49] ThisNewGuy: k – thanks!
[12:36:12] sphery: I do auto-commercial-detection for recordings, but just saying that if they're worth keeping and you want commercials cut (and possibly transcoded out), you can skip the re-commercial-detection and probably will be able to edit as fast or faster)
[12:38:18] ThisNewGuy: k – I getcha
[12:38:35] ThisNewGuy: what do you think of this as a script to auto-rebuild: http://pastebin.com/Rii1LwdJ
[12:41:17] sphery: should work pretty well...
[12:41:35] sphery: note, though, that the seek table created by --rebuild is in recordedseek
[12:41:45] sphery: and, it may be even easier than that
[12:41:57] sphery: some say that: mythcommflag --rebuild --all will actuall work
[12:42:03] sphery: (to rebuild any that don't have seek tables)
[12:42:30] sphery: others say that --all only works to re-flag any recordings missing detection and doesn't work with --rebuild
[12:42:42] sphery: I'd say it's definitely worth trying: mythcommflag --rebuild --all
[12:44:03] ThisNewGuy: k – will do
[12:44:06] ThisNewGuy: thanks
[12:44:10] sphery: does mythcommflag --help still say, "WARNING: This option does NOT work with --rebuild" for --queue?
[12:44:17] sphery: if not, you may want to use --queue, too
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[12:45:00] sphery: I'd definitely recommend using --queue for the normal commercial flagging, though (so it runs in job queue and doesn't monopolize the CPU)
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[12:48:55] ThisNewGuy: --help doesn't even mention the "--all" option
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[13:08:40] ThisNewGuy: this seems to work: mythcommflag --rebuild --queue
[13:09:17] rileyp: Hanbaal any sucess?
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[13:10:46] ThisNewGuy: though it looks like it queues everything – even items with a seek table :/
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[13:15:27] sphery: ThisNewGuy: hehe, well, on the bright side, the rebuilds are very fast
[13:15:58] sphery: probably just a couple minutes each--so only like 30 hrs for 1000 recordings :)
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[13:17:02] sphery: and since you've only done a few recordings since losing your seek tables, the difference between doing all and skipping those few new recordings probably is negligible in comparison to the overall time
[13:17:38] sphery: ThisNewGuy: so, anyway, it seems that --all was removed and is the "default" when no specific recording is specified
[13:18:15] ThisNewGuy: sphery: yeah – *sigh* – thanks for all of your help though!
[13:18:24] sphery: that said, it's /supposed/ to only do those without commercial flags when not using --rebuild (can't say it will, though :)
[13:18:37] sphery: hehe, y/w
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[13:18:55] sphery: at least it's just the computer that's going to be working--and you don't have to be involved for those 30hrs
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[13:22:33] ThisNewGuy: :-) – I have a second frontend so I kicked off a mythjobqueue on that one and I'm gonna bump up the number of simultaneous jobs on my main backend so hopefully that will speed it up a bit
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[13:24:43] sphery: ThisNewGuy: good idea... also, make sure you're running with Job Queue CPU set to Medium (not Low)
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[13:25:39] ThisNewGuy: k – is there a commandline setting for that?
[13:26:00] sphery: ThisNewGuy: although that's a mythtv-setup setting, you /can/ change it without stopping mythbackend... just tell mythtv-setup not to stop mythbackend
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[13:27:16] ThisNewGuy: k – thanks
[13:28:09] sphery: (this is why I'm /very/ upset when people say, "It's a backend setting so it belongs in mythtv-setup"
[13:28:38] sphery: which, for some reason, doesn't seem to me to be called mythbackend-setup...)
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[13:29:21] sphery: frontend settings are nice for anything that can be changed "on the fly" because then users don't have to know whether they have to restart mythbackend or not, which is the assumption for anything in mythtv-setup
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[13:44:04] ThisNewGuy: I buy that
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[13:48:42] rileyp: red is blue in youtube but fine in myth and xbmc is there an easy fix?
[13:49:39] sphery: hehe, now that I say that, I realize that the jobqueue improperly caches the value, so it won't pick it up until job queue restart--but that only affects how much it's niced, not how fast mythcommflag runs
[13:49:53] ** sphery will need to fix jobqueue to properly use the settings cache **
[13:51:03] sphery: rileyp: sounds like a problem with Flash... which isn't surprising, but is impossible to fix unless Adobe gives you some way to do it
[13:51:18] sphery: rileyp: same result when using a normal Firefox to view YouTube?
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[13:51:55] rileyp: yes It is a flash issue related to vdpau
[13:52:03] sphery: ah, stage video...
[13:52:18] sphery: not sure how to/if possible to fix it
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[13:52:29] sphery: interesting, though
[13:52:41] sphery: I'd have thought they'd have the vdpau stuff working by now
[13:52:49] rileyp: Flash sends the U/V planes in the wrong order when using vdpau
[13:54:07] rileyp: its way above my head im just reading a possible solution but thought I'd ask here seeing there is a wealth of info to do with video playback etc and knowledge of a simple fix may be about
[13:54:11] sphery: unfortunately, that's not hard to believe, based on Adobe's past history with Flash and their insistence that RGB is the only color model worthy of their app
[13:54:27] rileyp: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137877
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[13:55:28] sphery: hehe, yeah
[13:55:36] sphery: that's an ugly hack
[13:56:01] sphery: but, I suppose, that's what's required when you're trying to "fix" a broken, closed, proprietary piece of software
[13:56:27] sphery: (that hack being http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php? . . . ostcount=104 )
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[13:57:25] sphery: note that post #6 says that flashplugin 11.1 works (I'd assume it's not using tracing, like beta 11.2 is)
[13:57:25] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6 **
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[13:58:05] sphery: #9 -> Insightful: "And yeah, 11.2 is out. The last version non-Chrome linux users will ever get. So if there's issues in this one, we're stuck with those issues forever."
[13:58:05] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9 **
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[14:27:39] gregL: derekj, works here..
[14:32:37] derekj: gregL: what's is the output of 'mythbackend --version'?
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[18:22:53] fredwatt: Hi as anyone tried out the new Nvidia 640 GT with MythTV... Is it better than a 430 for VDPAU?
[18:23:34] fredwatt: Have been trying to use VAAPI with my clarkdale but given up as it does not support hardware deinterlacing
[18:23:50] fredwatt: So back to VDPAU... and I need a new card
[18:24:11] fredwatt: 640GT any thoughts?
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[19:07:56] lapion: the system keeps on preempting live tv with recordings even if there are three other sources with the same quality and priority
[19:08:26] Kuhne: Anyone have any experience with ROAP troubleshooting? I am having sound issues...
[19:08:45] [R]: lapion: theres an option in thefrontend about livetv
[19:10:04] Kuhne: *RAOP even :)
[19:11:31] sphery: fredwatt: FWIW, that's a great question. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer, but am hoping someone else does. I have a GT220 and need another card for another frontend and am not happy with the GT430 or GT520 for it.
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[19:21:46] fredwatt: Thanks sphery
[19:22:26] fredwatt: Its a shame that VAAPI does not have deinterlacing support on Clarkdale... But VDPAU is more mature
[19:23:19] fredwatt: All I know is what I have read ... and the GT 640 idles at 15Watts which is quite high – I think... but I am not sure how well it works with VDPAU
[19:23:55] fredwatt: The 430 is a little old... by tech standards, but until I can read otherwise is still the best card for VDPAU in the UK
[19:24:01] fredwatt: 50Hz
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[19:30:27] sphery: haven't heard much about the 640, but I know that you can get 430s that idle in the 7–9W region
[19:31:30] fredwatt: Yes that's what I have heard Sphery... and only enough grunt for HD in 50Hz countries
[19:32:03] sphery: yeah, it will do 60Hz, but has troubles with Advanced 2x deint on 60Hz, it seems
[19:32:25] sphery: and 520 seems to be about the same gpu as the 430
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[19:33:11] fredwatt: The 640 is the new kepler tech BUT and this it uses the slightly older GDDR3 memory
[19:33:37] fredwatt: All in all 640 idles at more watts than the 430
[19:34:20] fredwatt: All my computers use as little power as possible... my frontends/desktops are all diskless
[19:34:55] fredwatt: 15Watts idle seems to be alot just for the GPU
[19:35:05] sphery: yeah, it's unfortunate that nvidia got pushed out of the chipset business... was nice when you could get a mobo with a reasonably good nvidia gpu integrated
[19:36:12] fredwatt: Yes ... it would..... the other option is of course VAAPI with intel... But I only have Clarkdale... With Sandy Bridge/Ivy I am not sure if the hardware VAAPI interlacing works
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[19:37:15] fredwatt:
[19:38:11] fredwatt: Maybe if I wait a little..... more facts will appear, and maybe NVidia will release a new card which pleases the HTPC market
[19:39:09] sphery: fwiw, everything I've heard says vdpau is a good decode and presentation api and va-api is an ugly mess that can't be as good as vdpau
[19:39:50] sphery: the integrated decode and presentation stuff in vdpau makes it much easier than va-api + opengl presentation
[19:39:58] fredwatt: Yes its not plan sailing with VAAPI – from a user perspective it doesn't work 'out of the box'
[19:40:09] sphery: (especially for doing processing, like deint)
[19:40:38] fredwatt: When I was using VDPAU ... it was painless and the picture to my eyes looked great BBC HD...
[19:41:17] fredwatt: I have recompiled VAAPI to get the latest drivers... a few times... but the lack of deintelacing support is a show stopper for that tech at this point in time
[19:41:48] sphery: yeah, I'm usually a fan of F/LOSS, even when more painful, but vdpau + nvidia proprietary is my preference for a mythtv system
[19:42:13] fredwatt: I agree Sphery... closed drivers and Mythtv ... rather smashing...
[19:42:13] sphery: at least they made vdpau, itself, f/loss
[19:42:46] sphery: just wish Intel wasn't so arrogant as to still be pushing va-api
[19:42:52] sphery: er, oops, did I type that out loud?
[19:43:05] fredwatt: No didn't hear anything...
[19:43:20] sphery: (that said, even AMD has a bit of NIH (not-invented-here) distaste for vdpau)
[19:43:34] sphery: but since va-api is Intel's baby...
[19:43:55] fredwatt: Everyone... including large corporates have an agenda
[19:44:06] sphery: anyway, hope someone who knows the nvidia stuff pipes up about the 640... I appreciate the info you've given me on it
[19:44:23] sphery: and you might actually get more eyes on sending an e-mail to mythtv-users and asking
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[19:44:52] fredwatt: Yes Sphery... I havent joined the mailing list to subscribe.... though its a feed I read daily
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[19:45:32] sphery: it's not too bad as long as you set up a filter to move/label it for you (and keep it out of the inbox)
[19:46:54] fredwatt: lol I bet... I can't keep my inbox clean at the best of times...
[19:48:05] fredwatt: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5911/nvidia-ann . . . -gt-640-ddr3
[19:48:30] fredwatt: In the UK you can buy 640 cards at www.scan.co.uk today...
[19:48:56] fredwatt: But ... maybe the wrong time to buy
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[19:52:10] sphery: I'm assuming the GT630 DDR3 will be cheaper than the 640, and it seems to be Fermi (not Kepler), but wonder if it will be sufficient for MythTV's video needs (even in 60Hz territory)
[19:53:01] sphery: or if it will be another 430/520, but with a new number
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[19:53:11] fredwatt: More good questions... that we can't answer
[19:53:44] fredwatt: Yes the NVIDA marketing is so confusing... new numbers old products... mixed with new products
[19:54:48] sphery: yeah
[19:55:03] sphery: this is why I gave up keeping up and rely on what I read in here and on list :)
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[19:57:03] fredwatt: Expensive game after a while too... after many years of doing so... I've hit the breaks on it too which is why I am skipping Ivy bridge
[19:58:15] sphery: yeah, I was talking more "keeping up with the info"--I gave up on keeping up with the tech about the time I switched to GNU/Linux in '99
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[19:58:34] sphery: (decided I had better places to spend those dollars :)
[19:58:50] sphery: this is also why I haven't shelled out 3–4x as much as I spend on a computer or laptop for a cell phone
[19:59:27] sphery: (and, yeah, those of you who have iPhones or Galaxy S IIs on contract for "only $199" are still spending >$600 on them--you just haven't figured it out, yet)
[19:59:58] sphery: anyway, gotta go... nice talking with you and looking forward to finding more info in the 6x0 series
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[20:09:38] fredwatt: all the best Sphery
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[20:45:21] ** EvilGuru is not convinced by the 6x0 series; compute type performance is generally inferior to the 5xx series **
[20:46:01] EvilGuru: So if deinterlacing is still performed by the GPU core some of the lower end models may be underspecified for 1080i 2x adv
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[20:51:34] fredwatt: Just reading that 640 has pure video spec 5... a lot of the decoding is implemented in the Kepler chip as hardware
[20:52:17] EvilGuru: I know most of the video decoding and scaling are pure hardware, it is the deinterlacing I am unsure about
[20:52:22] fredwatt: Could be a very good card for VDPAU... Can't see which spec it is ... I think its C not D
[20:52:35] fredwatt: Support for hdmi 1.4a
[20:53:20] fredwatt: Not many 1/2 height implementations though
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[20:57:41] fredwatt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo . . . PureVideo_HD
[20:58:42] fredwatt: Nothing about hardware deinterlacing though... not says it hasn't... nor that it has ... does mention the H.264, VC-1 and MPEG-2 codecs
[21:00:00] fredwatt: Given that it says Kepler has improved the hardware decoding of the HD codecs... this might include h/w deinterlacing.. would make complete sense
[21:00:57] fredwatt: All food for thought ... shame I can't borrow a 640 and play
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[21:02:40] fredwatt: So reading more the article says that the Pure Video 5 = VDPAU spec D ... therefore 640 is a spec 'D' card...
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[21:04:06] fredwatt: Maybe that's a difference between the 630 and 640 ... 630=vdpau spec C, 640 = vdpau spec D ( kepler )
[21:06:51] [R]: does anyone else say Vee Dee POW?
[21:07:25] fredwatt: isn't it Vee Dee Paw ... as in cat's
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[23:26:22] shubes: I have a bit of a problem with 0.25. I have a BE and 2 FEs which were running 0.25. The BE and one FE (running on Lucid w/ mythbuntu repos) are running fine. The other FE I rebuilt from scratch on Precise. That FE works fine for live TV (using BE), but recorded programs have a problem.
[23:27:23] tgm4883: shubes, did you open the mythbuntu-control-centre and click "fix problem"?
[23:27:55] shubes: On recordings, the audio lags the video by a couple seconds. This happens on all recordings that were made with 0.24. With 0.25, I have 3 programs recorded so far. Two are ok, but one also plays out of sync like the 0.24 recordings.
[23:28:40] shubes: tgm4883: not yet. Let me try that (in other room). FWIW, all systems are current using the mythbuntu repos.
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[23:28:57] tgm4883: shubes, so it works fine on one of the FE's but lags on the other?
[23:31:16] shubes: right.
[23:31:22] tgm4883: odd
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[23:31:44] shubes: I don't see any "fix problem". You're joking? ;)
[23:31:44] tgm4883: shubes, does it progressively get further off, or is it always like 2 seconds behind?
[23:31:59] tgm4883: yes, that was a joke :)
[23:32:44] shubes: Seems consistent, but I haven't watched very long. I could drift. Hard to tell when it's so far off. I tried using the audio sync during playback, but couldn't get it matched up.
[23:33:03] tgm4883: hmm, that was going to be my answer :/
[23:33:06] shubes: Didn't seem to have much affect, even going 1000+ms.
[23:33:12] tgm4883: did you install Ubuntu or Mythbuntu?
[23:33:22] shubes: Ubuntu on that host.
[23:33:34] shubes: Then I installed myth, and upgraded to myth repos.
[23:33:44] shubes: Running Precise.
[23:33:44] tgm4883: I wonder if it's the infamous pulseaudio that is causing it
[23:34:05] shubes: I'm using PA, but don't seem to have a problem with anything else.
[23:34:56] tgm4883: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Digital_Sound#PulseAudio
[23:35:10] shubes: I wouldn't think twice about it if the lucid host running 0.25 had a problem, but that one's fine. It's the Precise host that's having the problem.
[23:35:21] tgm4883: shubes, I've got to run, but stick around someone will pop in and see that
[23:35:25] ** tgm4883 hometime **
[23:35:33] shubes: Thanks.
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