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Sunday, May 27th, 2012, 00:08 UTC
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[01:10:09] JoshTriplett: I just observed mythfrontend's live TV video grind to a halt, and after a minute or so it went back to the main menu with "Video frame buffering failed too many times.". I have all the logs from when that happened, and it looks like mythbackend stopped feeding mythfrontend data. Possibly related to live TV switching from something already recorded to a new recording in the Live TV recording group. Anyone mind taking a look at the logs
[01:13:09] JoshTriplett: Currently pastebinning the logs.
[01:22:21] JoshTriplett: Currently finding another pastebin site with larger limits. :)
[01:24:55] JoshTriplett: https://gist.github.com/270dd9564e3d217cd679
[01:25:28] wagnerrp: eeeew
[01:25:49] JoshTriplett: wagnerrp: Eeew at the use of gist or at the log content?
[01:26:03] wagnerrp: syslog
[01:26:25] wagnerrp: #012#011#011#011
[01:26:34] JoshTriplett: wagnerrp: Ah, true. :)
[01:26:41] wagnerrp: means endline in syslogese
[01:26:52] JoshTriplett: Yup. Specifically, it means \n\t\t\t. :)
[01:27:21] JoshTriplett: That aside...
[01:27:34] JoshTriplett: It struck me as unlikely to be a coincidence that the problem happened exactly at 5PM.
[01:27:51] JoshTriplett: Right when myth needed to transition to a new program.
[01:28:36] JoshTriplett: Also interesting, though I don't know if it matters: Myth already had a non-livetv recording of the program before 5PM, but not of the program after 5PM, so it (presumably) had to switch to a new recording in the livetv group.
[01:29:40] JoshTriplett: I also don't see any sign of a recording in the Live TV group for the program that started after 5PM.
[01:29:40] wagnerrp: bigger question, why wasnt the backend sending data
[01:29:46] wagnerrp: backend seems more important than frontend
[01:29:47] JoshTriplett: Yeah.
[01:29:51] JoshTriplett: wagnerrp: I included both logs.
[01:30:01] wagnerrp: oh, so you did
[01:30:10] JoshTriplett: I didn't want them to get separated. :)
[01:31:17] wagnerrp: first step, upgrade
[01:31:41] JoshTriplett: wagnerrp: ...hrm?
[01:32:01] JoshTriplett: wagnerrp: upgrade what?
[01:32:15] wagnerrp: youre running a buggy version of mythtv
[01:32:27] JoshTriplett: wagnerrp: 0.25?
[01:32:32] wagnerrp: pre
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[01:33:49] ** JoshTriplett grabbed the mythtv source packages from debian-multimedia (and rebuilt them to not depend on any debian-multimedia packages other than mythtv). I guess I assumed that the tarballs labeled 0.25 corresponded to 0.25... **
[01:34:56] ** JoshTriplett grabs the official tarball and checks differences. **
[01:35:16] wagnerrp: cant actually tell what youre running since its not a proper version
[01:35:21] wagnerrp: just says 'v0.25pre'
[01:35:58] wagnerrp: should have a commit, and change count since the last tag
[01:36:51] wagnerrp: like v0.26-pre-188-g568e161
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[01:38:53] JoshTriplett: wagnerrp: Heh. I just unpacked the Debian .orig.tar.gz and the official mythtv 0.25 .tar.bz2, and diffed them, and got this:
[01:39:10] JoshTriplett: VERSION | 2 +-
[01:39:17] JoshTriplett: That's it. The version file changed. :)
[01:39:23] JoshTriplett: -SOURCE_VERSION="v0.25pre"
[01:39:23] JoshTriplett: +SOURCE_VERSION="v0.25"
[01:39:31] skd5aner: mythfronted --version
[01:39:36] JoshTriplett: Dunno why, but I can tell you that I'm running exactly the upstream code other than that. :)
[01:39:48] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: Odds are it'll say "v0.25pre". :)
[01:40:13] skd5aner: JoshTriplett: also, this is a common problem with 0.25, failing at program transition times... it's a little better with current -fixes, but it still likes to bomb out regularly for lots of people
[01:40:13] JoshTriplett: Sure enough. I'll pastebin the full output though.
[01:40:19] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: Oh joy.
[01:40:25] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: Live TV only, I assume?
[01:40:34] skd5aner: the devs are aware, and I belive there are several tickets open about it – yes live tv only
[01:40:39] JoshTriplett: Good to know.
[01:41:05] skd5aner: it's the sole reaso why 0.25 was delayed a few weeks to try and fix... they were able to make it better, but not completely resolve the issue
[01:41:26] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: Hardware-specific, or it happens for everyone?
[01:41:29] skd5aner: there's some tickets with patches out there, and some of the patches simulate program transitions every 30 seconds to help with troubleshooting
[01:41:31] skd5aner: everyone
[01:41:54] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: And nobody knows why yet?
[01:42:09] skd5aner: that said, I personally have more problems with an HD-PVR and live tv, but that's due to different reasons
[01:42:31] skd5aner: well, they know where to look, just not the exact fix yet – or so I hear
[01:42:42] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: BTW: http://pastebin.com/uhEiqknc
[01:42:47] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: Full --version output.
[01:42:48] skd5aner: I know of 3 devs personally looking at it
[01:43:07] JoshTriplett: skd5aner: Awesome. Thanks.
[01:43:18] skd5aner: no problem... happens to me about 20% of the time
[01:43:45] jpabq: skd5aner, did you notice http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10765
[01:43:47] skd5aner: some days worse than others – I have no clue what makes it happy and what makes it blow up – but, at least you know you're not alone ;)
[01:44:43] skd5aner: jpabq: ah, no – thx, I'll take a look – I used to follow trac and commits religiously, but haven't looked once since release – I've had to give up any little free time I once had
[01:45:11] skd5aner: jpabq: that looks great, btw...
[01:45:18] jpabq: I spent a few hours on that today. In (limited) testing that patch makes a huge difference.
[01:45:26] skd5aner: I might play with it – will it apply to -fixes?
[01:45:39] jpabq: I haven't tried, but I would expect so
[01:46:06] skd5aner: my stb takes anywhere between 2 and 10 seconds to stablize the signal after a channel change, so I've had to use sleeps in my channel changing script to accomidate
[01:46:50] jpabq: I still would advise at *least* 1 second sleep at the end of the channel change script.
[01:47:14] skd5aner: oh yea, I cna't remember off the top of my head, but I think I have something like 5–6 or something like that
[01:47:43] jpabq: My testing of that patch, was against a directv STB with a 1 second sleep at the bottom. Even transitions between resolutions was working....
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[01:48:03] skd5aner: nice
[01:48:22] skd5aner: Yea, I think you did some of the original signal monitor stuff for the hdpvr originally right?
[01:48:29] jpabq: Yes.
[01:48:30] skd5aner: I know it was a big help at the time
[01:48:34] skd5aner: thx for that
[01:48:59] jpabq: I am "one of those" devs that never use LiveTV, but I understand that some people do...
[01:49:17] skd5aner: heh – greatly appreciated
[01:49:52] jpabq: If you can, please try that patch and let me know if it works for. I would like to get it in 0.25.1 if possible.
[01:49:52] skd5aner: we (wife and I) used to use live tv maybe 5–10% of the time... but now that the wife is at home full time now with our 1 year old daughter – we find that Live TV gets used maybe 50% of the time now
[01:50:20] skd5aner: jpabq: when is the target date for cutting .25.1?
[01:50:30] skd5aner: I might not be able to test until Tue or so
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[01:51:44] jpabq: I am not sure. stuartm talked about doing it very soon, but danielk talked him in to holding off a couple of days (I think).
[01:52:00] skd5aner: I might be able to look at it tomorrow evening – I'll let you know – thanks
[01:52:19] skd5aner: any specific feedback you are looking for in case you're not around when I get to testing it?
[01:52:48] jpabq: My main concern, is that it does not break recordings. I don't expect it to, but there is always the chance.
[01:53:01] skd5aner: k
[01:53:09] skd5aner: gotta run, later
[01:53:38] jpabq: I have rolled it into my production machine, so recordings will get a workout. But LiveTV is the main reason for the patch, so I need to know if it is better or worse.
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[01:55:32] JoshTriplett: jpabq: Does that just fix HD-PVR, or do you expect that it fixes other cases too?
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[02:35:50] kisak: good evening, I am running 0.25pre on gentoo, my master backend became non-responsive a couple hours ago. I killed the process after it failed to restart, when I started the backend again, it started up and made 2 child processes, and now it's sitting there sipping a little cpu time, non-responsive
[02:36:57] kisak: the last item in the log is "2012-05–26 22:24:17.050613 N [20887/20887] CoreContext main_helpers.cpp:556 (run_backend) – MythBackend: Starting up as the master server."
[02:37:02] wagnerrp: upgrade to a release version
[02:37:59] kisak: are you going to get around to bumping the ebuild?
[02:38:10] wagnerrp: scripts/mythtv-buildebuild.py --version=0.25 --type=p
[02:38:22] wagnerrp: i will, i promise
[02:38:42] wagnerrp: ive been holding off while writing the replacement to the above script
[02:40:11] kisak: that's a seperate issue, I'm willing to bump versions. could that be related to the trouble I've encountered?
[02:40:32] wagnerrp: could be, been a lot of commits since the last ebuild i pushed
[02:40:46] kisak: is there a script to check the database's sanity?
[02:41:49] wagnerrp: you can run the optimize-database.pl, but it just checks for database issues
[02:41:52] wagnerrp: not for mythtv's structure
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[03:15:08] noisymouse: Is there a prolog version of mythtv?
[03:15:24] [R]: noisymouse: what?
[03:21:02] noisymouse: it was a joke
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[03:50:52] larrikin_: that would be interesting.. I'm sorry dave, you can'r watch that now..
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[04:46:08] wagnerrp: I'm sorry Dave, allowing you to watch The Bachelorette would cause too much of a detriment to your IQ.
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[08:07:27] peque: Hey Guys, I've just reinstalled mybackend, but at this point I cannot see tV – since every tunercard are not local on my masterbackend – which they actually are – but under mythweb – the encoderstatus is remote on MBE ? how can I change this settings from remotely to local on MBE
[08:07:49] wagnerrp: remote means its on a different hostname
[08:07:52] [R]: delete your cards
[08:07:54] [R]: and readd them
[08:07:54] wagnerrp: did you change hostnames?
[08:08:55] peque: No – nothing at all
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[08:20:05] peque: Well – After removing and installing it again – it'll be back as local tuners – thanks!
[08:20:05] peque: Is ther a simple way to backup your DB settings of tunercards, Sources and channels – since I have a pretty complexs system with 6tuners and switch/LNB etc – which is quite a few if you need to reinstall
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[09:23:22] stuartm: skd5aner: we can wait (within reason) until everyone is happy
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[09:36:23] peque: I have placed all my music in one dir using – artistname/Album/songs structure, but missing really many albums which is placed under variuos artist! Is there any way to make is all be seen insted of this – earliere this works but after an reinstall of my MBE there really mess up in my music – is there an eaqsy ways to make this work properly instead of all music are gethered under unknown artist
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[09:40:36] prologic: Hey all. I followed the instructions here http://support.icetv.com.au/entries/20105193- . . . v-and-mythtv to setup MythTV with Ice TV guide data
[09:40:43] prologic: but all the guide data for any channels are empty
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[09:43:27] dekarl1: prologic: did you run mythfilldatabase after mythtv-setup?
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[09:43:36] prologic: yeah
[09:43:39] prologic: I'm getting some errors
[09:44:06] dekarl: ok, I didn't see it mentioned on the guide. can you pastebin the log?
[09:44:20] prologic: one sec
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[09:44:48] prologic: http://codepad.org/nvHPtK8C
[09:45:42] dekarl: this is mythbuntu?
[09:45:50] prologic: noisymouse, my own custom build
[09:45:53] prologic: but close enough
[09:46:12] dekarl: ahh ok. looks like "config file /home/media/.mythtv/Ice TV.xmltv does not exist" is the main issue
[09:46:42] dekarl: your video source is called "Ice TV"? I would have expected something like "Antenna" or similar ;)
[09:47:54] dekarl: maybe you ran the configuration outside of mythtv-setup, thus writing the configuration to ~/.xmltv/tv_Grab_au_icetv.conf instead of ~/.mythtv/Ice TV.xmltv
[09:48:27] dekarl: notice that this should be in the backend users home for the automatic mfdb run to work, but in your home for manual runs. I have symlinked mine around
[09:49:35] dekarl: oh, and I never tested with spaces in the filename... (gotta run, back in a bit)
[09:52:18] prologic: hang on
[09:52:24] prologic: so the config is for the backend user
[09:52:26] prologic: not the frontend?
[09:54:33] prologic: hmm
[09:54:45] prologic: there is no ~/.Ice TV in the backend's home dir
[09:58:34] prologic: hrmm
[09:58:46] prologic: when I try to configure the video source within mythtv-setup
[09:59:00] prologic: I get Permission Denied 13 when trying to write to /home/media/.mythtv/.xmltv
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[10:06:00] zzorg: Hello
[10:06:45] zzorg: What is the prefered disto for compiling mythtv ?
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[10:11:54] prologic: dekarl, hmm I reconfigured and added without the space just "IceTV"
[10:12:00] prologic: I still get that issue with mythfildatabase
[10:12:08] prologic: I'm missing a step?
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[10:18:00] prologic: config file /media/mythtv/.mythtv/IceTV.xmltv does not exist, run me with --configure
[10:18:06] prologic: I keep running into this issue
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[10:24:06] prologic: hmm
[10:24:08] prologic: it works now
[10:24:23] prologic: I reran mythtv-setup after doing sudo su – mythtv
[10:24:38] prologic: not sure why that's different to sudo -u mythtv — mythtv-setup
[10:25:03] prologic: Q: Do I need to run mythfilldatabase as the backend user regualrly via cron?
[10:25:06] StevenR_: hmm. How do I rename a recorded show? I used to be able to hit m in the recorded programmes menu, and there was an option, but now I can't find it
[10:26:34] stuartm: Recording Options > Change Recording Metadaat
[10:28:26] StevenR_: stuartm: doesn't appear to load
[10:28:37] StevenR_: (nothing happens when I choose that)
[10:28:50] stuartm: sounds like your theme isn't compatible with 0.25
[10:30:06] ** StevenR_ tries a different theme **
[10:31:24] StevenR_: stuartm: thanks. Fixed now :)
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[11:00:11] paulgardiner: jya: ping
[11:00:40] jya: paulgardiner: I'm here.. and no, I haven't got the chance to look at the transcode stuff
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[11:01:12] paulgardiner: jya: You'd left the ball in my court
[11:01:48] jya: i did too :P
[11:02:53] paulgardiner: I've just made the change you suggested to do with accuracy of the time code, added some comments to the algorithm and issued a new pull request
[11:03:04] jya: cool
[11:04:38] paulgardiner: Also in ticket #10736, I've posted the result of applying the patch (well, just the method addData). That should help anyone wishing to do some checking without actually having to apply the commits.
[11:04:38] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10736 **
[11:05:16] paulgardiner: So just thought I'd let you know.
[11:05:42] paulgardiner: While I'm here, do you know if I should be able to use passthrough with aac_latm encoded audio?
[11:06:04] jya: I don't see why not
[11:06:11] jya: passthrough is just that
[11:06:31] jya: provided your container knows about it
[11:07:23] paulgardiner: My first attempt failed, but that was a while ago. I'll try again.
[11:07:29] paulgardiner: cheers.
[11:07:57] jya: in passthrough, you receive exactly the audio stream as is in the original media
[11:08:08] jya: provided what you use then knows about that media
[11:08:22] jya: are you using the mythffmpeg or ffmpeg from elsewhere?
[11:08:32] paulgardiner: ffmpeg
[11:08:33] jya: aac-latm is something we added to our copy of ffmpeg
[11:08:42] jya: so you should try with mythffmpeg instead
[11:08:52] jya: it has an extra aac-latm decoder
[11:08:54] paulgardiner: Ah right. Thanks. That could be it
[11:10:36] paulgardiner: It shouldn't be a problem if the number of channels changes on the fly presumably, provided the frames per sec is constant?
[11:11:28] jya: that all depends on the decoder
[11:11:44] jya: the AAC decoder didn't like the change in bitrate
[11:11:47] jya: it was crashing
[11:11:51] paulgardiner: The eventual decoder is mythvideo
[11:11:56] jya: the last ffmpeg resync in the past 2 months fixed that
[11:12:07] jya: the AAC decoder in ffmpeg is still very young
[11:12:25] jya: but as for the number of channels, it should be fine
[11:12:32] paulgardiner: When I chuck it into ffmpeg, does it have to decode it while creating the output file?
[11:12:45] jya: in fact, even a change of sampling rate should be handled ok
[11:13:11] jya: with ffmpeg, you would do a -ao copy
[11:13:19] paulgardiner: Yep
[11:13:25] jya: or whatever is required to simply copy the audio to the last container
[11:14:21] paulgardiner: The bit I thought might get confused is the algorithm in mythtranscode to make sure it sticks out the right proportions of audio and video date.
[11:17:33] paulgardiner: Oh hang on: given I'm using -acodec copy, is mythffmpeg likely to make any difference?
[11:20:56] jya: no
[11:20:59] jya: it's ffmpeg
[11:21:06] jya: but the same ffmpeg as used by myth
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[11:22:50] paulgardiner: I don't know enough about how containers work. I guess ffmpeg (whichever version) would need to place info about its being aac_latm in a header somewhere.
[11:23:43] paulgardiner: Anyway, I'll give it another go
[11:24:10] zigzap: hi, using the default theme and dont like the guide theme. I would like to see lines, can someone suggest a better theme
[11:24:38] zigzap: also, is the shortcut to return it to the current time
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[11:42:40] dekarl: hmm, prologic, if you read the log. the difference between sudo with "-" and without is that its setting the userenv/home. and no, the backend will run mfdb automatically
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[12:20:21] dekarl: Beirdo, is mythconverg.logging supposed to be 32gb? (24gb of that in deleted rows) (I have added channel,record,siparser)
[12:22:33] dekarl: average row length is 158, but average row size is 30k... strange
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[12:33:29] rays: hey, tring to use mythcommflag on an mpeg1/2 file and getting "Could not find codec parameters"
[12:33:33] rays: using osx, using mythtv 0.25. mpeg file comes from eyetv
[12:33:39] rays: an avi I have loads just fine
[12:36:14] rays: http://pastebin.com/GAXtPSEH
[12:37:30] rays: dekarl: ^
[12:37:50] dekarl: rays, that gives the same "Could not find codec parameters"
[12:39:07] rays: yeah
[12:40:06] dekarl: if thats a standard mpeg .ts recording from eyetv it should work. maybe you can post a short sample of the file (like 10mb or so) somewhere so when the majority of the people in here get up they can take a look. (I have no idea what that might be)
[12:41:07] dekarl: hmm, you could run "mythutil --pidcounter " on the file to see if it has proper PAT/PMT, too
[12:43:35] sphery: dekarl: did you switch to innodb or something?
[12:44:09] sphery: if not, you definitely need to run optimize_mythdb.pl
[12:45:27] sphery: though even 8gb is broken... you should have a max of 140K rows, IIRC, going back a max of 2 weeks
[12:45:45] dekarl: sphery: no nothing special, everything is out of the box mythbuntu+mythtv, did nothing like that. but noticed that optimize_mythdb.pl appears to not find its credentials when I just tried it.
[12:45:58] sphery: master?
[12:46:08] dekarl: I have 1.1 million rows, yes master
[12:46:09] sphery: if so, perl bindings need an update
[12:46:30] sphery: I have to go now, but I'll be back later... maybe we can debug it
[12:46:50] sphery: I have a feeling I know what's happening (and it's a bug I plan to fix in not-related-to-logging code)
[12:46:52] dekarl: I just noticed it then updating from schema x to x+1 took ages (the backup of all the logs)
[12:47:07] sphery: yeah, makes sense
[12:47:12] sphery: will talk later
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[13:34:25] Technodrome: good day
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[15:11:59] wagnerrp: god damnit people, its not a bug, its a configuration issue
[15:12:05] wagnerrp: stop opening and reopening tickets
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[15:32:51] dekarl: wagnerrp: reminds me of thewebsiteisdown.com ^^
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[15:55:16] peque: Could some one give me a reason why I cannot see all my music – Many artist are missing – een searching for them several times – and checdk the permissions, change the songs to 777 – but they are nog comming up after an scan
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[16:02:46] stuartm: peque: what type of files are these? Do they have tags? How are they named?
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[16:03:33] stuartm: are these files within the directory you've set as the music storage location? (don't take this the wrong way, I have to ask)
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[16:12:56] peque: Stuartm: They are placed under /storage/music/artist/album/track – I haven't got tags on them -since its all my CD's and records – convert to Mp3 – and yes I've set the stporagegroups – It seems that that only see the ID3 tags
[16:13:56] peque: And inside each album they are named 01 – NAME.mp3
[16:15:33] stuartm: peque: you need to configure mythmusic to understand the naming convention you've used for the files if you haven't tagged the files (fwiw most CD ripping applications will automatically tag mp3s)
[16:16:33] stuartm: peque: under the music general settings you can specify the 'filename format'
[16:19:33] peque: It's collected music through the last 10years – In fileformat – I've tried somthing like ARTIST,ALBUM,TRACK_TITLE but it doesn't seem to be rigth
[16:22:16] stuartm: "ARTIST/ALBUM/TRACK – TITLE" ?
[16:25:52] stuartm: peque: fwiw, I'm sure we'll get your collection recognised, but you might want to think about running it through EasyTag, it can do batch creation of tags on files using the filenames, ultimately that will make your mp3s much more portable as every mp3 player and media application can read those without special configuration
[16:28:18] stuartm: hmm, TRACK_TITLE should actually be correct looking at the code, the underscore threw me off
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[16:30:21] peque: Well – sorry I can see in the Docs – that i Should be / as delimiter – my mistake
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[18:07:05] tgm4883: sphery, when you talk about mythtv, I usually learn something new. However I still don't quite understand this "However, I recommend using mythtv-setup to upgrade the database, instead of mythtv-setup."
[18:08:07] tank-man: sounds like drunk talk :)
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[19:09:40] swerve: how can i delete a file that say it's stuck in preview generation?
[19:11:48] swerve: delete it from the recordings list in "watch recordings" screen, to be more specific
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[19:17:48] sphery: tgm4883: primarily because it has a UI for the "do you want to upgrade" and because then you don't have multiple different backends/frontends trying to start at the same time with the wrong-versioned DB
[19:18:06] sphery: swerve: wait until preview generation completes, or upgrade to 0.25-fixes
[19:34:26] swerve: it's been generating preview for a week or so – fair guess it's fubar right ;-)
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[19:50:30] tgm4883: sphery, I'm still a little confused about "don't use mythtv-setup, use mythtv-setup"
[19:50:41] tgm4883: or am I completely not understanding something here ;)
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[20:18:05] justinh: maybe he meant use mythtv-setup.real
[20:19:07] justinh: really need to find time to update to a newer -fixes soon. bad deadlocks – seemingly when I record mythbusters
[20:19:24] justinh: yeah, how amazing is that? mythbusters breaks mythtv
[20:21:59] justinh: probably just coincidence but it only ever seems to be when myth records that show
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[20:53:55] larrikin_: some sql statement embedded somewhere that makes mysql run around in a tight loop trying to discriminate the program title from the application name.. :)
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[21:13:02] hmmichael: whois hmmichael
[21:13:39] hmmichael: list
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[21:14:27] hmmichael: names
[21:16:35] stuartm: identity crisis?
[21:17:26] hmmichael: motd
[21:17:53] hmmichael: hi stuartm
[21:18:17] hmmichael: whois +stuartm
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[21:18:31] hmmichael: WHOIS +stuartm
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[21:19:24] sphery: tgm4883: hehe, that was supposed to be "instead of mythbackend"
[21:19:53] tgm4883: sphery, ah that makes much more sense now
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[21:25:46] stuartm: hmmichael: /whois
[21:26:04] stuartm: commands are prefixed by /
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[21:29:52] hmmichael: thank/chat +stuartm
[21:30:51] hmmichael: 1st time irc. had mythtv working til I changed localhost in setup. have hauppauge wintv prv 350.
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[23:17:34] Technodrome: never used myth before
[23:18:25] Technodrome: must i use my cable box to connect to the computer via firewire? or can i get adigital cable card? do cable companies allow that?
[23:18:45] Technodrome: also when you use firewire to connect, is there any quality loss at all?
[23:19:57] [R]: firewire streams the full digital stream
[23:20:11] [R]: as for cable card, you can only record "record freely" channels
[23:21:09] RagingMind: Technodrome, if you're lucky like me, your cable provider will have on their website somewhere a guide that explains what content they send at what copy protection level
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[23:25:48] Technodrome: firewire will be all channels though right?
[23:26:39] Technodrome: or just these copy free hannelks
[23:27:13] Technodrome: so i tale most people use firewire if it works how i think it does
[23:27:28] Technodrome: so stupid how cable companies *lock down* cable dvr boxes
[23:27:33] Technodrome: i want to watch this series on my ipad
[23:27:57] [R]: firewire is generally the same, copy freely
[23:28:05] [R]: its differnet contro lbits, but they are usually the same
[23:28:14] Technodrome: so there is no way to record most of tv?
[23:28:27] [R]: depends on what quality you want
[23:28:34] Technodrome: what do you mean
[23:28:37] [R]: theres a wiki page on recording digital tv
[23:28:49] Technodrome: i dont want to go analogue converts n shit ike that
[23:29:25] [R]: a) watch the language b) the hdpvr is really the best way to record everyhting
[23:29:51] Technodrome: i see some mythtv setups where people are changing channels etc etc
[23:29:59] [R]: ?
[23:30:16] Technodrome: if you dont have a direct firewire connection, how is that possible?
[23:31:17] [R]: ir
[23:31:24] Technodrome: i really only want stuff off of 1 channel
[23:32:11] [R]: doesnt matter if you want to record 1 or a million
[23:32:14] [R]: the answers are the same
[23:32:48] Technodrome: the channel might not have that copy protection [R] in that case i could do direct firewire right?
[23:33:03] [R]: if the firewire on yoru box works, yes
[23:33:38] Technodrome: do most cable networks copy protect everything? or just certain stuff?
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[23:34:28] [R]: depends
[23:34:51] Technodrome: i dont think my cable provider has a way to check
[23:35:08] [R]: none do
[23:35:11] [R]: you try to do it and see if it works
[23:35:18] [R]: or find someoen who has tried and ask them
[23:35:28] Technodrome: so really tivo is the only way to get access to all channels while still being able to trip the stream directly from the box
[23:35:52] [R]: you can get everyting with hdpvr
[23:36:34] Technodrome: thats just intercepting the hdmi though right?
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[23:37:19] Technodrome: i like the idea of getting the real firewire digital stream
[23:37:21] [R]: there is no way to record hdmi coming from a cable box
[23:37:48] Technodrome: so you have to use component?
[23:38:06] [R]: you GET to use component
[23:38:20] Technodrome: great …..i tell you :)
[23:38:26] Technodrome: i love all these copy protections
[23:39:15] Technodrome: for some reason i think this channel might not be copy protected
[23:39:19] Technodrome: so how does tivo get away with this?
[23:39:28] Technodrome: are they like the only offficially approved alternative here?
[23:39:36] [R]: theres nothing to "get away" with
[23:39:43] [R]: if yo uare talking about series 3
[23:39:54] [R]: they impelment all the necessary cable card stuff
[23:39:56] [R]: to protect the content
[23:39:56] Technodrome: tivo can replace your cable box in total though right?
[23:39:58] Technodrome: yes
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[23:40:03] [R]: myth can't do that
[23:40:10] Technodrome: but with tivo there is still ways to pull the mpgs directly off
[23:40:14] Technodrome: i see a ton of people doing it
[23:40:18] [R]: dunno about that
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[23:40:29] [R]: but either they are hacking the boxes, using older boxes, or the channels are marked copy freely
[23:40:44] Technodrome: where my DvR and all other ones going to great length to copy protected
[23:41:04] Technodrome: but there is a tivotogo thing where it looks like it pulls stuff off for you and can encode to whatever device or just give you the direct file? I believe
[23:41:09] Technodrome: or you can just hack it off the box it seems
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[23:42:04] Technodrome: [R]: yeah it seems like there is many ways to hack the boxes
[23:42:17] Technodrome: [R]: will myth ever have any of that cable card stuff
[23:42:29] [R]: myth has supposed cablecard for a while
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[23:45:33] Technodrome: [R]: supposed?
[23:45:36] [R]: supported
[23:45:37] [R]: lol
[23:46:15] larrikin_: supposedly supported
[23:46:24] [R]: no, lots of peple use it
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[23:47:24] Technodrome: [R]: so this would allow to dvr all the copyrighted content right?
[23:47:29] [R]: no
[23:47:32] [R]: you dnot listen do you?
[23:47:57] larrikin_: fair use I say..
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[23:48:06] [R]: it doesnt matter what you asy
[23:48:21] larrikin_: that's true
[23:48:34] Technodrome: [R]: i just started looking into this 20 minutes ago
[23:48:48] [R]: except the very first thing i told you
[23:48:59] Technodrome: how does my official dvr do it if its copyrighted?
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[23:49:04] [R]: do what?
[23:49:08] Technodrome: record
[23:49:13] [R]: huh?
[23:49:37] Technodrome: how does my official DVR record anythiing i want , im sure much of it is copyrighted
[23:49:55] fryguy: cablelabs certification allows hardware to interact with teh cablecards in certain ways depending on how the copy protection of a signal is flagged
[23:49:56] [R]: its all copyrighted...
[23:50:02] [R]: doesnt mean youc an't securely record it...
[23:50:07] fryguy: it has nothing to do with copyright, it has to do with the DRM flags on the signal
[23:50:11] Technodrome: im guessing a digital tuver with a cable card would give the same access as my DVR
[23:50:20] [R]: as i ALREADY told you
[23:50:22] [R]: in myth with a cable card
[23:50:27] [R]: you can ONLY record "copy freely"
[23:50:43] Technodrome: yes but your official DvR can do everything right?
[23:50:46] Technodrome: record anything?
[23:50:50] [R]: of course it can
[23:50:54] fryguy: Technodrome: right
[23:50:59] [R]: it would be pretty stupid for them to give you a dvr that coudn't record everyhting
[23:51:19] Technodrome: i was just assuming that a tv tuner + a cablecard would give the same freedom
[23:51:22] Technodrome: i guess i was wrong
[23:51:34] [R]: in a trusted system
[23:51:35] [R]: it can
[23:51:38] [R]: myth isn't a trusted system
[23:51:38] fryguy: Technodrome: it will on windows media center, not on mythtv
[23:51:53] Technodrome: I see
[23:51:59] fryguy: most things are marked copy freely however (depends on cable provider), so in reality it's a non-issue
[23:52:16] fryguy: fios/comcast all normal channels are copy freely, and some premiums are
[23:52:18] Technodrome: when you record something on windows media center, is it all super encrypted files? or is it just raw mpg2's?
[23:52:27] [R]: its all protected
[23:52:30] [R]: thats why you can record it
[23:52:49] Technodrome: no one has broke it on windows media center?
[23:52:56] fryguy: nope
[23:53:00] Technodrome: crazy
[23:53:02] [R]: that would be very illegal
[23:53:04] [R]: and very offtopic here
[23:53:21] Technodrome: im sure pulling videos off a tivo is not legal either is it?
[23:53:26] Technodrome: but i see tons of people doing it
[23:53:40] fryguy: Technodrome: it depends on how the videos were recorded in the first place
[23:53:48] [R]: Technodrome: and?
[23:53:48] fryguy: again, copy freely = you can do whatever you want with it
[23:53:52] fryguy: and most things are copy freely
[23:53:56] Technodrome: i see
[23:54:02] Technodrome: i had a notion that most things were not copy freely
[23:54:08] [R]: people download illegal torrents... doesnt maek it any less illegal
[23:54:16] Technodrome: if thats the case i can just do a direct firewire fryguy ?
[23:54:19] [R]: Technodrome: as i iniitally told you... it depends
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[23:54:50] Technodrome: assuming most of my cable provider is copy freely and my firewire port works as it should
[23:55:03] larrikin_: its good to see subscription in australia dying a slow death..
[23:55:06] fryguy: Technodrome: you can, but then you still need to have a cablebox, not a cablecard, and the cablebox has to be tuned to a channel that you want to watch
[23:55:11] Technodrome: what channels are not known to be copy freely fryguy ?
[23:55:13] [R]: and assuming a unicorn that craps rainbows is magically going to show up at my house
[23:55:19] fryguy: Technodrome: google for a list
[23:55:21] Technodrome: fryguy: yes
[23:55:33] fryguy: Technodrome: most people get cablecards to save money
[23:56:13] Ankhwatcher: anyone use MythExport? I want to export hidef under a bit more compression
[23:59:12] Technodrome: fryguy: seems like mosto f my network is copy free
[23:59:19] fryguy: Technodrome: like i said
[23:59:33] Technodrome: dont kill me jeesh :)

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