| Saturday, May 19th, 2012, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:27] | fully_human: | I heard that with HTTP proxies they're usually paid because you need bandwidth on another server...I should probably take this to #squid. :-/ |
| [00:02:02] | wagnerrp: | generally the only thing mythtv would be pulling off the internet is guide data |
| [00:02:15] | wagnerrp: | seems rather paranoid to shove that down TOR or any other proxy |
| [00:03:32] | fully_human: | I know, my entire systems on a proxy, and I can't think of a way to blacklist certain programs. |
| [00:03:47] | stuartm: | well video streams in mythnetvision but the only reason to use TOR or similar there is to avoid territorial restrictions, breaking the Terms of Service and violating the channel rules in the process, so I'm assuming you're not looking to do something illegal or shady? |
| [00:04:32] | wagnerrp: | TOR wouldnt be good for that |
| [00:04:36] | wagnerrp: | since you cant control the endpoint |
| [00:05:02] | wagnerrp: | cant bypass region restrictions if you cant be certain youre exiting in the proper region |
| [00:05:50] | wagnerrp: | anonymization only |
| [00:07:42] | sphery: | stuartm: So, I'm guessing you're not still watching the Space X launch webcam? :) (Seems it's rescheduled for tomorrow at 4:55am EDT/8:55UTC... I think I'll wake up and watch--night launches look great from the back yard.) |
| [00:08:22] | wagnerrp: | yeah.... but youll miss the eclipse |
| [00:09:16] | sphery: | yeah, but a trip to my back yard is much easier than a trip to Texas or West of... |
| [00:09:27] | stuartm: | sphery: yeah, I'd already read earlier that it had been scheduled for 8:55 GMT, so I just need to make sure I don't lie ;) |
| [00:09:33] | sphery: | I guess you'll get a glimpse of the eclipse in OH, wagnerrp ? |
| [00:09:45] | sphery: | http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogl . . . Agoogle.html |
| [00:10:13] | wagnerrp: | ill see some traverse, but nothing like the western states |
| [00:10:32] | sphery: | in mid-OH, if you click on the map (move and zoom as required), you can see start of partial eclipse around 0022UT with max at 0119UT |
| [00:10:39] | stuartm: | tbh there's a very good chance that it will be mid-morning before I remember that I was going to watch it, I'm not a morning person ;) |
| [00:10:54] | fully_human: | In Linux, what would the TV tuner device be called? |
| [00:10:57] | sphery: | so, yeah, must be pretty close to your sunset |
| [00:11:10] | stuartm: | we still call them TV tuners |
| [00:11:12] | sphery: | fully_human: /dev/video* for analog? |
| [00:11:57] | fully_human: | Ah, thanks. |
| [00:12:12] | sphery: | /dev/dvb stuff for digital |
| [00:12:51] | wagnerrp: | see the linuxtv project for what tuners you can expect to be supported... |
| [00:12:53] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [00:12:53] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
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| [00:40:59] | fully_human: | So, I'm trying to get MythTV up and running, but I keep getting the error "Could not connect to the master backend server." I have all proxies disabled, and I put my "ifconfig" ip address into the server settings. Any idea what it could be? |
| [00:47:40] | wagnerrp: | your backend is running? |
| [00:50:11] | fully_human: | Yes. |
| [00:51:47] | wagnerrp: | same machine as your frontend, or different? |
| [00:55:41] | fully_human: | Same. My frontent is all there is. |
| [00:55:58] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs to see why it is not properly listening |
| [00:55:59] | fully_human: | The odd thing is that once I start up mythtv-backend, it stops after a few seconds. |
| [00:56:24] | wagnerrp: | my guess... improper configuration so mythbackend is complaining about in the logs and closing |
| [00:58:31] | fully_human: | DVBChan(5:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0): Failed to open DVB frontend device due to fatal error or too many attempts. |
| [00:58:43] | fully_human: | I'm guessing that's why it's crashing. |
| [00:58:49] | wagnerrp: | might something else already be open and using it? |
| [01:00:14] | fully_human: | No, I don't think so...how would I check. |
| [01:00:20] | fully_human: | ? |
| [01:03:09] | sphery: | sudo fuser /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 |
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| [01:03:59] | fully_human: | Nope. |
| [01:04:03] | fully_human: | No one's using it. |
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| [01:04:17] | wagnerrp: | permissions? |
| [01:04:29] | wagnerrp: | often times, those are owned by the 'video' group |
| [01:04:40] | wagnerrp: | so anyone using it must be part of that group |
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| [01:19:35] | fully_human: | As I'm finding, the problem lies in the fact that mythtv-backend is starting before it detects the cards (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:my . . . ailed_init), but I'm not finding a solution that works yet. :-/ |
| [01:19:56] | wagnerrp: | you mean starting on boot? |
| [01:20:52] | fully_human: | Yes. |
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| [01:39:30] | Twiggy2cents: | Does the end of a recording or video trigger a playback stopped event? |
| [01:39:54] | [R]: | are you playing it? |
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| [01:45:44] | Twiggy2cents: | [R], I understand what you are implying. All I am asking is if a user requested stop is the same as a end of recording stop |
| [01:46:00] | [R]: | well 5 seocnds to find out.. |
| [01:46:20] | fully_human: | Well, Linux recognizes my TV tuner (with tvtime), but I'm having trouble connecting to the mythubuntu-backend. |
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| [01:47:02] | [R]: | fully_human: what? |
| [01:47:28] | fully_human: | I'm having trouble getting MythTV set up myself. :-\ |
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| [01:50:59] | Twiggy2cents: | fully_human, have you checked the backend logs yet? |
| [01:51:09] | Twiggy2cents: | If so post the whole thing to pastebin |
| [01:51:09] | fully_human: | Yes. |
| [01:51:34] | fully_human: | I'm getting errors like this: MythBackend: No valid capture cards are defined in the database. |
| [01:51:38] | fully_human: | I'll post to pastebin, though. |
| [01:52:22] | [R]: | fully_human: sounds like you didnt define any captuer cards then |
| [01:53:32] | fully_human: | I did. Under capture cards I have: (New Captuer Card) (Delete all captuer cards on host) (Delete all captuer cards) and [ DVB : /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 ] |
| [01:54:14] | Twiggy2cents: | fully_human, is that the location mythtv said it was at for dvb video or did you chose that? |
| [01:54:26] | fully_human: | Both. |
| [01:54:30] | Twiggy2cents: | I guess what i am saying is that when you use tvtime is it using that exact path to the tuner? |
| [01:54:32] | fully_human: | I chose it just to make sure. |
| [01:56:46] | fully_human: | Twiggy2cents: Unsure. I just started up tvtime and it worked. |
| [01:57:28] | Twiggy2cents: | What card is it? Do you actually have adapter0? |
| [01:58:56] | fully_human: | Yes. It's /dev/dvb/adapter0. |
| [01:59:04] | fully_human: | (it's a directory) |
| [01:59:08] | Twiggy2cents: | yeah, |
| [01:59:21] | fully_human: | and my tuner is a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-850. |
| [01:59:24] | Twiggy2cents: | Have you got your backend log up yet? |
| [02:03:52] | fully_human: | http://pastebin.com/6XYd4qZA |
| [02:04:43] | wagnerrp: | tvtime does not use digital tuners |
| [02:05:35] | fully_human: | I'm wanting to set up mythtv, though. tvtime works fine. |
| [02:05:52] | wagnerrp: | but youre talking about /dev/dvb/adapter0, which is digital |
| [02:06:01] | wagnerrp: | tvtime does not do digital, tvtime cannot use that device |
| [02:06:18] | fully_human: | Ah. |
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| [02:41:24] | wagnerrp: | sphery: seems daniel jackson has ascended again... in a hospital this time |
| [02:42:53] | sphery: | he died? |
| [02:43:05] | sphery: | or is this a twitter hoax thing? |
| [02:44:42] | wagnerrp: | first they kill him off in stargate |
| [02:44:51] | wagnerrp: | but thats not enough, so they bring him back only to kill him again |
| [02:44:58] | wagnerrp: | and they they kill him in burn notice |
| [02:45:03] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [02:45:03] | wagnerrp: | and now they kill him in saving hope |
| [02:45:26] | wagnerrp: | poor guy just cant catch a break |
| [02:45:41] | sphery: | hehe, he always gets the parts that are to die for |
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| [03:36:57] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: remember how I was telling you that the hdpvr killer script didn't play nice with Live TV and stumbled on the 0 byte file that would often get created prior to the actual file creation? |
| [03:37:21] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: well, it seems that must just be a problem with 0.24, because it works just fine in 0.25 |
| [03:37:36] | skd5aner: | just wanted to let you know |
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| [04:10:39] | Beirdo: | skd5aner: cool, thanks |
| [04:11:08] | skd5aner: | np |
| [04:11:17] | skd5aner: | I never updated... so I have whatever version I pulled originally |
| [04:11:32] | skd5aner: | if you attempted to "solve" it since my report, it may have been – but anyway |
| [04:11:45] | skd5aner: | g'night |
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| [14:09:20] | lapion: | anyone in here have any experience with technisat |
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| [14:10:57] | lapion: | dvb-c/t pci and usb ci containing devices and compatibility ? |
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| [14:22:01] | at0m: | lapion: i hear there's no proper support for any usb ci |
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| [14:23:43] | RogerM: | Anyone here that knows how Myth does it's dvb tuneing? Am haveing a device that is missbehaving with it's tuneing. |
| [14:24:05] | at0m: | what card? |
| [14:24:35] | RogerM: | Terratec H7 (USB device) |
| [14:26:39] | RogerM: | It has problems with it's CI/CAM support. I have to open up kaffeine, tune to channel(failes.. black screen.. no video), close down kaffeine and restart it to watch video. Wondered if myth had a workaround for this problems since I'm having trouble getting response from driverdevelopers. |
| [14:30:21] | tank-man: | you still need those drivers/kernel module for your device when you use mythtv |
| [14:30:40] | tank-man: | mythtv isnt an OS |
| [14:32:03] | lapion: | at0m, and the pci-usb card with attached ci slot |
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| [14:41:27] | wagnerrp: | at0m: all CI support must be built into the tuner card |
| [14:41:46] | wagnerrp: | mythtv only has the smarts to tell the tuner card to enable decryption |
| [14:41:55] | wagnerrp: | not route the data to some alternate device |
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| [15:24:56] | lapion: | wagnerrp, what device would you advice ? |
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| [15:25:25] | wagnerrp: | cant, dont use DVB devices or CAMs |
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| [15:54:51] | ujee: | Hi! I need some help with my temporary mythtv setup.. Conditions: Tuners on weak non-x86 machine, Master backed & mysql on computer that needs to be turned off for night.. Is there a way to go, until I get some HW that will run 24/7 ? |
| [15:55:48] | wagnerrp: | yes, mythtv has the ability to shut down the machine it is currently on, and use the hardware timer to wake itself back up as needed |
| [16:00:40] | ujee: | wagnerrp, My question is mainly – can slave backends exist with master backend down? |
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| [16:02:38] | wagnerrp: | no, the master backend will power them down as well |
| [16:03:53] | ujee: | wagnerrp, the device cannot be started after a powerdown.. so I need to write scripts that will restart the backend process on demand? |
| [16:04:11] | wagnerrp: | cannot be started? what do you mean? |
| [16:04:49] | ujee: | wagnerrp, when the device turns off, there is no way how it could be waked.. expect for pulling the plug |
| [16:04:56] | ujee: | (the tuner device) |
| [16:05:16] | ujee: | *except |
| [16:05:27] | wagnerrp: | this is not a tuner card and/or USB device that would be powered up and down with the PC? |
| [16:05:39] | ujee: | no.. an ARMv7 board |
| [16:06:20] | wagnerrp: | one of those little dual DVB-S network attached things? |
| [16:06:22] | ujee: | works as a full computer, but it's not powerful enough for much |
| [16:06:41] | ujee: | no.. a pandaboard with dvb-t usb sticks |
| [16:06:57] | wagnerrp: | just put the DVB-T sticks on your master backend, and call it a day |
| [16:07:10] | ujee: | If that was possible, I would do it |
| [16:07:56] | ujee: | the dvb-t thing fried itself when it was attached to the master :( It's all temporary until I get some more suitable hw |
| [16:08:17] | wagnerrp: | then if its temporary, just leave it on for now |
| [16:08:45] | wagnerrp: | a slave backend will not function without a master |
| [16:08:59] | wagnerrp: | but it will just sit there and spool through reconnections until it comes back online |
| [16:09:05] | ujee: | that is enough |
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| [16:09:39] | ujee: | I need to get the streams over the net.. anyhow (<-is that a word?) |
| [16:10:09] | wagnerrp: | you need to have it record over the network? |
| [16:10:17] | wagnerrp: | or you need to stream the content over the internet? |
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| [16:10:26] | ujee: | I need to stream needed channels from tuner-thing to master |
| [16:10:50] | wagnerrp: | recordings cannot be performed internally |
| [16:10:52] | ujee: | and not stream the rest to save bandwidth for other uses |
| [16:11:01] | ujee: | internally? what do you mean? |
| [16:11:05] | ujee: | net = lan |
| [16:11:05] | wagnerrp: | the backend that records it must have direct access to the filesystem |
| [16:11:15] | wagnerrp: | which means the slave backend must have the storage mounted over NFS |
| [16:11:25] | ujee: | slave backend needs storage? |
| [16:11:33] | wagnerrp: | to record, yes |
| [16:11:56] | wagnerrp: | they do not need local storage, just filesystem access to storage |
| [16:12:00] | wagnerrp: | (i.e. NFS) |
| [16:12:01] | ujee: | oh.. I though you can have "tuner backends" and "storage backends" |
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| [16:12:43] | wagnerrp: | you can build a slave backend with no hard drives |
| [16:12:52] | wagnerrp: | but it must have access to storage space through the filesystem |
| [16:13:12] | wagnerrp: | it will not internally push the data to a separate backend |
| [16:13:53] | ujee: | understood.. that's gonna be fun to implement... if possible at all (to unmount/remount as master goes on/off) |
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| [16:14:14] | ujee: | I planned to use http streaming, but that turned into a no-go |
| [16:14:39] | wagnerrp: | nfs will automatically take care of reconnecting itself when the server comes back online |
| [16:15:00] | ujee: | that's great, thanks for the clue |
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| [16:17:02] | ujee: | the last thing is – updates.. The master is getting periodical updates from the ppa... While the arm-based slave obviously can't.. |
| [16:17:34] | lapion: | why would it not be able to get updates ? |
| [16:17:49] | ujee: | Will it work like that, or I should freeze the version on the master and hope it's not one of those that produces purple frames when cutting |
| [16:17:50] | stuartm: | no arm builds in the mythbuntu repo? |
| [16:18:04] | ujee: | stuartm, are they? Haven't checked yet.. |
| [16:19:03] | tgm4883: | no we don't |
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| [16:22:22] | earthw0rm: | Is there a way to make the TV guide show more channels at once? |
| [16:22:27] | ujee: | lapion, so that's why.. no armhf (or even armel) builds |
| [16:23:30] | lapion: | earthw0rm, can be screen size related or theme related |
| [16:23:59] | earthw0rm: | I can only see about 5,6 channels |
| [16:24:12] | earthw0rm: | My screen is 1080p |
| [16:24:16] | ujee: | earthw0rm, same here.. but it's usually enough |
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| [16:26:02] | ujee: | lapion, wagnerrp there is not even a "precise" section on the ppa yet.. Will that cause troubles, or I can let the updates arrive? (Because building mythtv once could be a lot of fun, doing that every weekend is not what I aim for) |
| [16:26:26] | tgm4883: | ujee, what PPA are you using? |
| [16:26:42] | ujee: | https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.24/+packages I guess.. seems quite old |
| [16:26:58] | tgm4883: | ujee, yea it is, as 0.25 has been released |
| [16:27:10] | ujee: | so I should cross my fingers and switch? |
| [16:27:18] | tgm4883: | there isn't a precise section as precise didn't ship with 0.24. So it will never get 0.24 builds |
| [16:27:50] | tgm4883: | it's up to you if you want to switch. I'm using 0.25 here just fine |
| [16:28:26] | ujee: | tgm4883, none of the future versions has http streaming (as tuner), right? |
| [16:28:42] | tgm4883: | ujee, not sure what you mean by that |
| [16:28:50] | tgm4883: | http streaming was introduced in 0.25 |
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| [16:29:00] | tgm4883: | but I don't think it works for live tv if that is what you are asking |
| [16:29:24] | ujee: | tgm4883, I would use streaming from the tuner box |
| [16:29:47] | tgm4883: | ujee, yea I still don't quite understand what you are talking about |
| [16:29:57] | tgm4883: | I haven't been following the backlog though |
| [16:30:19] | wagnerrp: | he wants to use a slave backend with no storage |
| [16:30:24] | tgm4883: | oh |
| [16:30:31] | ujee: | but I don't expect that to be possible. I have a tuner box running something similar to getstream.. simple app that sorts the PIDs into right boxes and streams them over HTTP to whose who ask |
| [16:30:46] | wagnerrp: | no, there are no plans to ever use HTTP streaming for recording purposes |
| [16:30:50] | ujee: | I don't need a slave in there, but I expect I can't do that |
| [16:30:55] | wagnerrp: | if anything, mythtv would use its own internal protocol |
| [16:31:06] | ujee: | whatever, that would be good enough |
| [16:31:12] | wagnerrp: | but for now, it needs direct filesystem access, either to a local drive, or an NFS share |
| [16:31:38] | tgm4883: | so basically, you've created what amounts to a custom tuner, that you want the backend to use similar to a HDHomerun |
| [16:31:58] | ujee: | and db access and master access, obvilous.. nothing else? |
| [16:31:59] | tgm4883: | I don't know how the stream comes from the HDHR though |
| [16:32:24] | ujee: | tgm4883, all so-far-implemented streaming inputs expect constantly running streams, afaik |
| [16:32:43] | tgm4883: | ujee, are you familiar with the HDHR? |
| [16:32:53] | wagnerrp: | there is a 'vtuner' driver that behaves in a similar manner to the HDHR |
| [16:33:22] | wagnerrp: | but i dont know if there is any ready-made mechanism to expose the tuners on one computer through the vtuner protocol |
| [16:33:43] | tgm4883: | If you could make your tunerbox behave similar to the HDHR, then it might work (and I'm talking completely out of my backend now :) ) |
| [16:34:04] | ujee: | I considered usb-over-ip, but building two kernels is harden than building one mythtv.. |
| [16:34:05] | tgm4883: | I don't know enough about the recording/tuning mechanism though |
| [16:34:27] | tgm4883: | ujee, why do you need this tunerbox? |
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| [16:34:32] | uh992k: | good evening |
| [16:34:34] | ujee: | *harder |
| [16:34:35] | tgm4883: | can't you just connect it to the backend? |
| [16:35:02] | ujee: | tgm4883, nope.. the last stick I put there burned and I take it as a warning.. and the antenna connection is worse in there |
| [16:35:09] | wagnerrp: | no, you do not want to use any kind of "usb over ip" |
| [16:35:14] | tgm4883: | ah |
| [16:35:35] | uh992k: | I have problems with (soft) subtitles in videos ... When the image moves it's leaving artefacts behind until the next iframe comes ... does someone know something like this? |
| [16:35:39] | ujee: | wagnerrp, I won't.. too much work for uncertain result (now known to be crappy) |
| [16:35:55] | tgm4883: | we use usb over ip at work, but only for software that requires dongles |
| [16:36:23] | tgm4883: | so just authentication checking |
| [16:36:31] | ujee: | tgm4883, for the ppa switch, how do I do that? change sources.list from .24 to .25 and apt-get upgrade only? |
| [16:36:50] | tgm4883: | ujee, http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [16:37:20] | uh992k: | ujee: if you are using mythbuntu repository, you can do it directly in the control center |
| [16:37:32] | uh992k: | uhm ... distribution, not repository^^ |
| [16:38:37] | ujee: | uh992k, what's a control center? |
| [16:38:57] | tgm4883: | ujee, did you install mythbuntu or ubuntu? |
| [16:39:14] | ujee: | kubuntu and removed most of the junk guis |
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| [16:39:52] | tgm4883: | I'm honestly not sure I want to explain this |
| [16:40:18] | tgm4883: | readers digest version |
| [16:40:33] | ujee: | so dpkg --reconfigure mythbuntu-repos, select new version? |
| [16:40:48] | tgm4883: | switch the 24 to 25 in whatever file you added the repo in, then apt-get update |
| [16:41:00] | tgm4883: | you then need to apt-get dist-upgrade, as there will be new dependencies |
| [16:41:16] | tgm4883: | doing a reconfigure on mythbuntu-repos won't do anything in precise |
| [16:41:17] | ujee: | and that will do.. I was asking if there was no caveat in that process |
| [16:41:31] | ujee: | that thing is oneiric |
| [16:41:54] | tgm4883: | it's oneiric? Did you install the mythbuntu-repos package previously? |
| [16:41:56] | ujee: | scheduled for upgrade next weekend |
| [16:41:58] | ujee: | yes |
| [16:41:59] | tgm4883: | or did you manually add the repo? |
| [16:42:04] | tgm4883: | then just do the reconfigure |
| [16:42:10] | ujee: | ok, thanks |
| [16:42:28] | tgm4883: | it might warn you that 0.25 is trunk, but don't worry about that |
| [16:42:54] | ujee: | what's wrong about trunk? (or could be wrong) |
| [16:43:58] | tgm4883: | well trunk/master is the development version (currently 0.26 in our repos) |
| [16:45:38] | stuartm: | 0.25 |
| [16:45:57] | ** stuartm mis-read that ** | |
| [16:47:13] | uh992k: | does someone know something about problems with playing mkvs with embedded soft subs? |
| [16:48:04] | uh992k: | when the picture is moving there are artefacts which are only cleared at the next key frame |
| [16:49:06] | ujee: | tgm4883, correction – I don§t have the package installed... what shall I do then? |
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| [16:58:21] | tgm4883: | either do what I previously said, or install the package? |
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| [17:01:09] | ujee: | tgm4883, what did you previously say? |
| [17:01:25] | tgm4883: | <tgm4883> switch the 24 to 25 in whatever file you added the repo in, then apt-get update |
| [17:01:25] | tgm4883: | <tgm4883> you then need to apt-get dist-upgrade, as there will be new dependencies |
| [17:02:47] | ujee: | ah.. okay |
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| [17:22:22] | pplmaker: | when is 0.26 coming out? I'm wondering if i should upgrade or wait |
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| [17:37:48] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [17:38:17] | Hilikus: | where is the mapping from lirc to mythtv stored? lirc recognizes some key presses that don't reach mythtv |
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| [17:48:08] | uh992k: | Hilikus: did you install mythbuntu? or did you install lirc by yourself? |
| [17:48:17] | uh992k: | normally there is a .lircrc file in your home directory |
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| [17:48:31] | uh992k: | in the former case it includes ~/.lirc/mythtv |
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| [17:50:31] | uh992k: | ~/.lircrc looks like: |
| [17:50:40] | uh992k: | [...] |
| [17:50:40] | uh992k: | begin |
| [17:50:40] | uh992k: | remote = 100TS035 |
| [17:50:40] | uh992k: | prog = mythtv |
| [17:50:40] | uh992k: | button = OK |
| [17:50:41] | uh992k: | config = Return |
| [17:50:41] | uh992k: | repeat = 0 |
| [17:50:42] | uh992k: | delay = 0 |
| [17:50:42] | uh992k: | end |
| [17:50:43] | uh992k: | [...] |
| [17:51:14] | uh992k: | "button" is the button of your remote (from lircd.conf) and "config" is the key from mythtv |
| [17:51:36] | Hilikus: | by myself |
| [17:51:45] | Hilikus: | ok, i remember that file now. thank you uh992k |
| [17:51:58] | Hilikus: | i did this like 4 years ago |
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| [18:06:34] | ujee: | tgm4883, are you still there? It seems to be allright, but it insists on mythtv-themes being deinstalled (it dislikes themes childish and metallurgy). I don't understand why |
| [18:06:50] | tgm4883: | ujee, I don't think that package exists anymore |
| [18:07:05] | ujee: | oh.. that's bad.. |
| [18:07:09] | tgm4883: | why? |
| [18:07:13] | tgm4883: | yea it doesn't |
| [18:07:47] | ujee: | how can I get another theme? |
| [18:08:02] | tgm4883: | in 0.25, you use the theme downloader |
| [18:08:12] | tgm4883: | it's in the frontend |
| [18:08:20] | tgm4883: | way better than having to do it via packages |
| [18:08:47] | ujee: | if you think the code is secure.. and all users have to install for themselves.. ok I guess |
| [18:09:04] | tgm4883: | ujee, ? |
| [18:09:14] | tgm4883: | do you think it's insecure? |
| [18:09:15] | ujee: | pulling things from net... |
| [18:09:29] | tgm4883: | how is pulling things from the net insecure? |
| [18:10:05] | ujee: | not in general... I prefer when programs don't do that, because of the slim chance it's not... |
| [18:10:16] | ujee: | seeing the gnome thumbnailer's bug... |
| [18:10:31] | ** tgm4883 sighs ** | |
| [18:10:37] | tgm4883: | but you aren't downloading from random places |
| [18:10:51] | tgm4883: | IIRC you are downloading from the mythtv git repository |
| [18:10:53] | ujee: | but random places can publish at that particular one.. or not? |
| [18:10:55] | ujee: | ah.. |
| [18:11:20] | ujee: | so I'll just expect noone spoofing my connection.. that will do this time :) |
| [18:11:43] | tgm4883: | spoofing your connection? |
| [18:12:15] | ujee: | if it's https, then buying a fake certificate.. there is always a way |
| [18:12:37] | tgm4883: | um |
| [18:12:45] | tgm4883: | wtf are you talking about |
| [18:12:46] | clever: | tgm4883: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html |
| [18:12:46] | ujee: | and please ignore it |
| [18:13:35] | ujee: | I am seeing a different cert for firefox addon server from here and from some other place... |
| [18:13:55] | ujee: | either there are really mis-setup cdn, or one of the providers is watching.. that's the thing |
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| [18:15:45] | tgm4883: | so for that to happen. A) They would have to get a signed certificate from a CA for a domain they can't prove they own. AND B) Get you to go to their webserver when you attempt to access github |
| [18:16:24] | clever: | tgm4883: the cert can be signed by ANY cert authority, including some foreign country that would have never been in the path |
| [18:16:50] | tgm4883: | clever, wouldn't the CA have to be trusted? |
| [18:16:56] | clever: | dns spoofing on an open access point or a malicious open access point (see above link) also make that simple |
| [18:17:23] | clever: | tgm4883: of course, but (for example), do you trust north korea to not bribe their own CA's? |
| [18:17:32] | tgm4883: | clever, 1) that was for non HTTPS traffic. 2) Don't steal your neighbors wifi? |
| [18:17:43] | tgm4883: | clever, does North Korea have trusted CA's? |
| [18:17:56] | clever: | never really checked my root ca list to see |
| [18:18:23] | ujee: | tgm4883, that's for https too, if you have the cert... and some companies admited issuing those mitm certs... I haven't asked the rest |
| [18:18:41] | clever: | and if somebody manages to crack your wifi passsword, they can create a fake AP and turn your own off |
| [18:18:51] | clever: | not stealing wifi isnt enough to make you safe |
| [18:18:58] | ujee: | and seeing two different CAs for one domain.. would you trust any? |
| [18:19:15] | ** tgm4883 sighs ** | |
| [18:19:37] | ujee: | I'd go "If i have possibility for apps to stay offline, I want to use it" that's all |
| [18:19:59] | tgm4883: | can I borrow one of your tinfoil hats? |
| [18:22:13] | tgm4883: | clever, ujee my browser still would need to trust the CA that gave out a certificate to someone claiming to be github |
| [18:22:26] | clever: | tgm4883: of course |
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| [18:24:08] | tgm4883: | clever, also, I don't see anything in that link you posted regarding https |
| [18:24:37] | clever: | tgm4883: yeah, it only applies to the tcp level, you would need to get a signed cert for https to start working |
| [18:25:03] | tgm4883: | so we're back to my main point, is you would need to get a bogus certificate from a trusted CA |
| [18:25:11] | clever: | though, does the theme downloader in myth use https, and verify the root? |
| [18:25:30] | ** tgm4883 shrugs ** | |
| [18:25:45] | tgm4883: | I thought we were having a much higher level discussion of security talk |
| [18:26:05] | clever: | and all of that security relies on the cert being verified against a root ca list |
| [18:26:08] | tgm4883: | I would guess not |
| [18:26:19] | tgm4883: | since most things in mythtv aren't written with security in mind |
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| [18:36:24] | ujee: | that's the thing.. and that's why I was not happy to hear it's doing anything on the web, tgm4883 |
| [18:36:55] | ** tgm4883 sighs ** | |
| [18:37:06] | tgm4883: | I don't know who wrote that part, but you should ask them |
| [18:38:26] | Hilikus: | if i want to have access to all the videos of a user in mythnetvision, should i use a custom site subscription for it or an RSS feed? |
| [18:38:44] | tgm4883: | ujee, if you are that paranoid, you could always block the ability for it to go out to github, and then go out to github and get the themes yourself after you have verified github is who they say they are. Then just simply drop them in the right directory |
| [18:38:57] | tgm4883: | but I have a feeling you would rather just complain about this |
| [18:39:05] | ujee: | why? |
| [18:39:10] | tgm4883: | why what? |
| [18:39:12] | ujee: | that would the beast I could do |
| [18:39:15] | ujee: | *best |
| [18:42:09] | tgm4883: | ujee, https://github.com/MythTV-Themes/ |
| [18:44:16] | Hilikus: | anyone? |
| [18:44:35] | Hilikus: | sorry, i forgot to mention this in from a youtube user |
| [18:44:42] | ujee: | tgm4883, where shall I drop that? (best if accessible to all users) |
| [18:44:43] | Hilikus: | is* |
| [18:46:38] | tgm4883: | ujee, I believe in /usr/share/mythtv/themes/ |
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| [18:47:55] | ujee: | ok.. let's try getting https://github.com/MythTV-Themes/Childish/zipball/master and uzipping there |
| [18:48:40] | tgm4883: | ujee, I'm just looking at the mythbuntu theme package which puts it there |
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| [19:05:24] | ujee: | tgm4883, thanks it worked.. It even started the theme by default. (since it used to be default) |
| [19:07:55] | Twiggy2cents: | Is this advisable or no? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Optimizing_Perform . . . abase_Tweaks |
| [19:08:29] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, Ubuntu? |
| [19:09:24] | Twiggy2cents: | Yeah the backend is the current mythbuntu |
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| [19:10:52] | Twiggy2cents: | I know it takes forever to load program info and all the thumbnails for the recordings in mythweb |
| [19:11:24] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, 12.04? |
| [19:12:30] | Twiggy2cents: | I think so, how do you find that out? when I login to the computer it prints it but what about when you are already logged in? |
| [19:12:39] | tgm4883: | lsb_release -a |
| [19:13:20] | Twiggy2cents: | thanks, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS |
| [19:14:24] | tgm4883: | sphery, did you get to make the change to set temp tables as myisam? |
| [19:14:46] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, how long does it take to bring up program info and thumbnails? |
| [19:14:55] | tgm4883: | and what specs are your backend? |
| [19:16:18] | Twiggy2cents: | ~30 secs |
| [19:16:28] | tgm4883: | hmm |
| [19:16:56] | Twiggy2cents: | 4gb ram P4 2.8 GHz recordings on own hdd's |
| [19:17:15] | Twiggy2cents: | It was much faster on mythbuntu 10.04 |
| [19:17:27] | tgm4883: | There is a known issue with the default mysql settings in 12.04 with regards to mythfilldatabase |
| [19:17:39] | tgm4883: | I don't think it would apply to program info though |
| [19:19:40] | ujee: | tgm4883, one last thing – is there a convenient source code bundle for the backend (I still need to build for arm...) |
| [19:20:38] | Twiggy2cents: | ujee, once you have built mythtv once you just need git pull; ./configure; make; make install |
| [19:20:49] | Twiggy2cents: | it is done way sooner than the first time you compiled |
| [19:21:12] | ujee: | and it "make install"s over the previous version without issues? |
| [19:21:41] | Twiggy2cents: | yes |
| [19:21:57] | tgm4883: | or you could just pull our packaging? |
| [19:22:08] | Twiggy2cents: | it will only recompile what has been changed then install it right over the top, replacing the old changed files |
| [19:22:23] | ujee: | tgm4883, can't non-x86 |
| [19:22:47] | tgm4883: | ujee, yes you can, out build scripts are in github |
| [19:22:54] | tgm4883: | I'm looking them up, sec |
| [19:23:02] | ujee: | thanks |
| [19:23:16] | tgm4883: | https://github.com/MythTV/packaging |
| [19:23:23] | tgm4883: | we're the deb packaging :) |
| [19:23:47] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, do you have massive IO in iotop when loading the program info and/or thumbnails? |
| [19:24:23] | Twiggy2cents: | I do have barriers off for the os and db hdd. Give me a few minutes and I will check |
| [19:25:29] | ujee: | tgm4883, how do I use that? pull the normal source and throw this int here? seem I am total newbie to this |
| [19:30:06] | tgm4883: | ujee, actually looking at our packaging, I'm not sure why it isn't building armel |
| [19:30:19] | ujee: | it's not set to? |
| [19:30:27] | ujee: | also: I am on ubuntu's new arch: armhf |
| [19:30:40] | tgm4883: | we've got settings for both armel and armhf |
| [19:30:48] | wagnerrp: | hf? |
| [19:31:29] | Twiggy2cents: | tgm4883, pretty much no io. Only some little blurbs but other than that, nothing |
| [19:31:41] | ujee: | wagnerrp, hardfloat.. |
| [19:32:01] | ujee: | offers better performance (no idea what that actually is) |
| [19:32:16] | wagnerrp: | hardware FPU |
| [19:32:29] | ujee: | ah, thanks.. now it means something |
| [19:32:44] | wagnerrp: | beagleboard is a Cortex A8 |
| [19:32:56] | wagnerrp: | the FPU on that is utter garbage |
| [19:33:14] | ujee: | this is panda.. |
| [19:33:31] | wagnerrp: | oh, panda... thought you said beagle earlier |
| [19:33:52] | wagnerrp: | yeah, pandaboard is significantly improved |
| [19:38:20] | ujee: | what's the easier way of getting 0.25 backend running on that? |
| [19:40:05] | wagnerrp: | we dont really do ARM testing, so there is no "easy way" |
| [19:41:07] | ujee: | I am pretty much lost even regarding what things to fetch.. |
| [19:42:45] | ujee: | then I'll be testing it I guess.. (unless that involves way way more than trying to build and run) |
| [19:43:19] | wagnerrp: | thats as far as our buildbots go currently |
| [19:44:44] | ujee: | I'd still like to try |
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| [19:51:07] | Hilikus: | does anyone know of a site grabber for MNV for your own subscriptions on youtube? |
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| [19:51:33] | tgm4883: | ujee, I'm looking into why arm isn't on the PPA |
| [19:51:54] | ujee: | tgm4883, oh thanks.. seeing packages simply online.. that would be soo awesome. |
| [19:51:56] | wagnerrp: | Hilikus: MNV does not currently support cookies, so its not possible |
| [19:51:59] | tgm4883: | we use the same packaging for the ubuntu repos, and it's building for arm there so IDK why it's not even trying to build |
| [19:52:21] | Hilikus: | wagnerrp: why do you need cookies for that? |
| [19:52:45] | Hilikus: | for the authentication? |
| [19:52:47] | wagnerrp: | for a subscription? |
| [19:52:57] | wagnerrp: | yes, you need to sign into your account to see what youve subscribed to |
| [19:53:00] | wagnerrp: | and that requires cookies |
| [19:53:26] | Hilikus: | i see. so plan b. is there a site grabber for a single, particular, public channel? |
| [19:53:40] | wagnerrp: | the cookie holds a cryptographic token identifying who you are, so it doesnt have to send user/pass on each query |
| [19:53:55] | wagnerrp: | not sure on that |
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| [19:54:02] | wagnerrp: | you can subscribe to an RSS feed |
| [19:54:07] | tgm4883: | Hilikus, what user? link? |
| [19:54:11] | wagnerrp: | but it wont have the fancy wrapper like the youtube grabber |
| [19:54:15] | tgm4883: | yea RSS feed! |
| [19:54:23] | Hilikus: | i thought of that, but as far as i know RSS returns a flat view, is this correct? |
| [19:55:21] | Hilikus: | tgm4883: say this for example http://www.youtube.com/user/khanacademy?ob=4 |
| [19:55:35] | gpharos: | Ceton InfiniTV setup help? |
| [19:55:49] | Hilikus: | but i want it to be organized in the same categories as you see there. not a flat view of the latests videos |
| [19:55:57] | ujee: | tgm4883, main ubuntu repo also does not show non-pc archs... see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libc6 |
| [19:56:10] | ujee: | arm pkgs appear on ports.ubuntu.com instead |
| [19:56:11] | Hilikus: | i.e. one category for each playlist |
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| [19:59:47] | Hilikus: | tgm4883: what do you think? is there a way of doing this right now? i am thinking of writing a grabber for per-channel grabbing, but i don't know python so i would do it in java instead, which is kind of annoying for distribution |
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| [20:00:26] | tgm4883: | Hilikus, I don't know |
| [20:01:49] | Hilikus: | wagnerrp: what's this wrapper you're talking about? |
| [20:02:38] | wagnerrp: | the youtube grabber, it wraps the resultant pages and gives some level of control without the need for a keyboard/mouse |
| [20:04:05] | Hilikus: | oh i think i noticed that. in videos from a search result i could only pause but not control the volume or see the info (playback time, etc). is this it? |
| [20:04:07] | ujee: | tgm4883, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas hmm.. it should support both armel and armhf (ah that's what you ment by "we have configs for armel and armhf"...) |
| [20:10:35] | ujee: | tgm4883, on the other hand: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA says, that only x86 and x86_64, because those run XEN and thus provide clean build environments.. |
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| [20:20:52] | ujee: | tgm4883, one more link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/armhf/my . . . 62a-0ubuntu1 heya.. they have AN 0.25 mythtv packages ready to pick up...! |
| [20:23:09] | ujee: | do you think it's a version that would work with what's in the ppa for x86? |
| [20:34:32] | tgm4883: | ujee, the ubuntu repository packages for mythtv are built by us (mythbuntu) |
| [20:34:41] | tgm4883: | they use the same process as the PPA |
| [20:34:45] | ujee: | ahaa |
| [20:35:07] | ujee: | I remember they lagged in the version number seriously in the past |
| [20:35:15] | tgm4883: | what lagged? |
| [20:35:25] | ujee: | they were quite old compared to the ppa |
| [20:35:29] | tgm4883: | yes |
| [20:35:33] | tgm4883: | and they will continue to be |
| [20:35:55] | ujee: | this what I found appears to be moth old.. does not seem that bad |
| [20:36:30] | tgm4883: | ujee, the builds in the Ubuntu repo as the builds we put in before final freeze |
| [20:36:40] | tgm4883: | they won't get updated |
| [20:36:52] | tgm4883: | which is why we tell people to enable the mythbuntu repository |
| [20:37:20] | ujee: | sooo.. if the ubuntu precise version works for me, I can stick to it? |
| [20:37:34] | tgm4883: | ujee, well I'm not going to force you to upgrade |
| [20:38:03] | ujee: | if staying with ubuntu is so easier than the upgrade, I think I will |
| [20:39:36] | tgm4883: | easier? It's enabling a repo and updating as normal |
| [20:42:26] | ujee: | tgm4883, how can I do that on arm???????? |
| [20:43:17] | tgm4883: | sorry, forgot you were talking arm. Yes it's probably easier for you to just stay on the repo version |
| [20:43:47] | ujee: | thanks for confirming |
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| [21:10:07] | ujee: | tgm4883, does that mean – with all my installations, or only with that arm tuner device? |
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| [21:21:10] | tgm4883: | ujee, only with the arm tuner device |
| [21:23:26] | ujee: | oh, thanks, I was worried it would break |
| [21:24:02] | tgm4883: | ujee, as long as it's the same major version (eg. 0.25) that should be fine |
| [21:24:10] | ujee: | ah, great |
| [21:24:14] | tgm4883: | but you cannot mix 0.24 and 0.25 |
| [21:27:08] | ujee: | I won't do that, no worry.. and thanks for patient responses |
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| [21:32:08] | ujee: | grr.. is mythtv-setup supposed to offer more than "select language" ? |
| [21:32:31] | [R]: | ujee: what? |
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| [21:34:01] | ujee: | [R], mythtv-setup in 0.25 says "Select the country in which you currently reside" and then quits |
| [21:35:15] | uh992k: | lol |
| [21:35:17] | uh992k: | :) |
| [21:35:40] | ujee: | I should probably take some sleep soon.. |
| [21:35:51] | ujee: | can you tell me what I am doing wrong, uh992k ? |
| [21:36:04] | uh992k: | no, how could I do that? |
| [21:36:29] | ujee: | ah.. I got it.. I need to choose "cancel" instead of "done" that's.... I don't have a word for it |
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| [21:36:46] | [R]: | its you dont something very wrong |
| [21:36:52] | [R]: | doing* |
| [21:37:06] | ujee: | probably, but what? |
| [21:37:29] | uh992k: | not going to bed and trying fresh tomorrow :) |
| [21:39:23] | stuartm: | what arch/platform? There was an old bug that caused mythtv-setup to crash after the language/country selection prompt but that was fixed ... |
| [21:39:38] | ujee: | stuartm, armhf |
| [21:40:20] | stuartm: | could be an arm specific bug, none of the devs run arm and it doesn't get any official testing |
| [21:40:36] | [R]: | arm |
| [21:40:37] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:40:51] | ujee: | I don't really care anymore.. it's gonna be only a backend.. and hitting "cancel" got me thru |
| [21:43:12] | sphery: | tgm4883: not yet, but maybe tomorrow or, if not, Monday. |
| [21:43:24] | tgm4883: | sphery, ok, thanks for the update |
| [21:43:31] | sphery: | sorry it's taken me so long |
| [21:43:45] | sphery: | I have the patch, but haven't had the time to test all the places it affects |
| [21:43:50] | tgm4883: | no worries, I know you are busy and it only affects Ubuntu 12.04 boxes |
| [21:44:14] | tgm4883: | granted that is 70.5% according to the stats :) |
| [21:44:19] | sphery: | hehe, oops |
| [21:44:33] | sphery: | guess I need to get going on testing that |
| [21:45:11] | tgm4883: | not sure if it's related or not, but 64-bit seems to be on top again since we switched to the 64-bit ISO as the default download option |
| [21:45:41] | sphery: | I have a feeling the default was the reason 32-bit was winning |
| [21:45:56] | sphery: | so it's probably good that it's changed, now |
| [21:46:05] | tgm4883: | yea, it's completely non-scientific, but it's interesting to see that |
| [21:46:21] | sphery: | the worst part of a 32-bit default is that it actually works on a 64-bit system, so you wouldn't even know you chose the wrong one |
| [21:46:32] | tgm4883: | exactly |
| [21:53:43] | stuartm: | I really despair of people who use open source and can find the energy to complain about what doesn't work, but cannot be bothered to submit decent bug reports or better yet patches to fix those issues |
| [21:55:27] | sphery: | "but telling the devs what they need to work on is helping, too" ;) |
| [21:56:27] | stuartm: | to which I'd say it's cost you nothing, either contribute a moment of your time (like everyone else) or shut up :) |
| [21:56:38] | stuartm: | well that's the family friendly version ;) |
| [21:56:58] | stuartm: | honestly, kids these days :p |
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| [21:58:46] | stuartm: | that's my mini-rant of the day over with |
| [21:59:29] | sphery: | hehe, yeah, it seems people are willing to go out of their way explaining why they can't actually help/debug/make a patch--even to the point of spending more time than it would take to help/debug/patch |
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| [22:00:42] | sphery: | how come so many people have specified HTTP_PROXY env variable but have useless proxies that don't work |
| [22:00:53] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:01:23] | sphery: | I'm guessing they're using some external-only proxy, and expect the application to know what's routable through the proxy and what's not |
| [22:01:31] | lxs-makoto: | hey, possibly offtopic but i finally got my gfx card for my mythtv pc. need some advice re cpu and thermal paste, someone has caked on the thermal paste like a whores makeup, but shouldn't it just be a thin amount to literally let the heatsink touch the cpu? |
| [22:02:05] | uh992k: | who uses thermal paste nowadays? |
| [22:02:17] | sphery: | lxs-makoto: that's my understanding, too... the paste itself isn't a great conductor (compared to the metal), but it's meant to just fill all the voids between the 2 pieces of metal |
| [22:02:19] | uh992k: | ah ... gfx card |
| [22:02:21] | lxs-makoto: | you're not meant to use it? |
| [22:02:27] | lxs-makoto: | ah |
| [22:02:56] | lxs-makoto: | ok, yeah then i shall scrape all this stuff off- its properly thick, and quite possibly why the cpu is always overheating |
| [22:02:57] | sphery: | I think he means that most CPU HS/fans have the pre-applied thermal goop on them |
| [22:03:01] | uh992k: | yes, paste is better than air :) |
| [22:03:19] | sphery: | yeah, better than air, worse than metal--good way of putting it |
| [22:03:19] | lxs-makoto: | ahh |
| [22:03:29] | lxs-makoto: | yeah, i got this with a bit of cardboard... :/ |
| [22:03:34] | lxs-makoto: | no paste/pad or anything |
| [22:03:38] | lxs-makoto: | literally a bit of cardboard |
| [22:04:01] | lxs-makoto: | so i cba to put the paste in, so i sent it to a pc shop because i am lazy |
| [22:05:27] | uh992k: | btw ... I asked a couple of hours ago but no answer, unfortunately ... did someone know something about soft subs embeddedn MVKs make problems? |
| [22:05:34] | uh992k: | does |
| [22:06:02] | uh992k: | when the picture is moving the subs are leaving artefacts behind which are cleared on the next key frame |
| [22:06:25] | stuartm: | uh992k: it helps to be more specific, I'm sure most people here know *something* about that topic, but they might not be able to answer your question |
| [22:06:43] | uh992k: | I don't know if there is much more to tell |
| [22:06:55] | uh992k: | I could have a look what video codec is used |
| [22:07:32] | sphery: | you're not using the shortcut for H.264, are you? |
| [22:07:44] | sphery: | skiploop filter or whatever |
| [22:07:45] | stuartm: | yeah, well you did go on to describe your problem, for a moment I thought you were going to leave it at "did someone know something about soft subs embedded in MVKs" :) |
| [22:08:12] | uh992k: | ah ok^^ :) lol |
| [22:08:51] | uh992k: | hmm "(h.264-Profil: High @L4.0)" |
| [22:09:15] | uh992k: | is L4 standard? |
| [22:10:08] | stuartm: | sphery: sounds like a subtitle rendering bug to me, should be unrelated to video frame decoding, but I've never had any issue with DVD/Bluray rips to matroska, although those preserve the DVD/Bluray subtitle formats and perhaps these are some other subtitle format e.g. CC, text or something |
| [22:10:57] | stuartm: | uh992k: when you say 'soft subs' you mean the subtitles which aren't burnt into the image but which are enabled via the menu? |
| [22:11:04] | uh992k: | yes |
| [22:11:23] | uh992k: | it's "S_TEXT/ASS" whatever this format is^^ |
| [22:11:37] | wagnerrp: | advanced subtitle syntax |
| [22:12:01] | sphery: | uh992k: yeah, I'm just thinking that the filter could cause damaged video frames and might have more effect with subtitles |
| [22:12:14] | sphery: | er, stuartm ^^^ |
| [22:12:31] | stuartm: | yeah, no experience with that format here, it tends to only be used for illegally ripped content (torrents) as far as I'm aware |
| [22:12:51] | wagnerrp: | generally when one rips their own content |
| [22:12:57] | wagnerrp: | they dont bother with OCRing subtitles |
| [22:13:04] | wagnerrp: | and just do bitmapped subs |
| [22:13:05] | stuartm: | sphery: hmm, possibly, although I always thought the filter was applied before compositing the subtitles |
| [22:13:38] | uh992k: | oh ... it's not the subtitles |
| [22:13:46] | stuartm: | uh992k: which video renderer? Xv, vdpau, other? |
| [22:13:51] | uh992k: | this distortion also appear when the OSD is displayed |
| [22:13:54] | uh992k: | even more strange |
| [22:14:10] | stuartm: | uh992k: ok, definitely a video renderer bug then |
| [22:14:27] | uh992k: | I don't know ... the video is find without OSD or subtitles |
| [22:14:33] | sphery: | reminds me to delete the old/deleted playback profile group descriptions from wiki |
| [22:14:36] | uh992k: | e |
| [22:14:43] | stuartm: | well, actually more likely to be a video driver bug, but specific to one of the rendering methods |
| [22:15:08] | uh992k: | yes, I think so ... it's the opensource radeon driver running on amd e450 (hd6732 or something like this) |
| [22:15:24] | stuartm: | all starts to make sense now |
| [22:15:51] | uh992k: | and hardware acceleration is used ... perhaps that's the reason for |
| [22:16:01] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that would be a good bet |
| [22:16:13] | uh992k: | I think I will transcode it with burnt in subtitles and use no OSD when watching^^ |
| [22:16:14] | wagnerrp: | do you have enough power in that thing to try software decoding and opengl? |
| [22:16:34] | uh992k: | for full-hd not ... but in this case it's sd material |
| [22:16:53] | wagnerrp: | then just pull the bitmapped subs off the source DVD and mux them in instead |
| [22:17:17] | uh992k: | I don't have a "source DVD" |
| [22:17:39] | uh992k: | it's a complete season of animes in japanese language with english subtitles I found in the net |
| [22:17:41] | ** stuartm pulls out the handcuffs ** | |
| [22:17:46] | uh992k: | lol |
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| [22:17:57] | uh992k: | of course it's all public domain ;) |
| [22:20:44] | stuartm: | as you might be aware, ATi drivers aren't particularly good, neither the open source or official closed source versions, we steer anyone who asks to NVidia for that reason |
| [22:21:16] | uh992k: | ah ... it works properly with opengl rendering |
| [22:21:34] | uh992k: | thx for the tip, I probably wouldn't have tested it :) |
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| [22:23:25] | uh992k: | time for sleep ... good night |
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| [23:11:45] | jpabq: | Is airplay from iTunes to mythfrontend working for anyone here? iTunes has my mythfrontend in the list to check from, but clicking on the checkbox for my mythfrontend doesn't work — the box remains unchecked. This is with latest master. |
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| [23:30:40] | wagnerrp: | jpabq: running 0.25 or master? |
| [23:32:11] | jpabq: | wagnerrp, latest master |
| [23:32:52] | jpabq: | I just installed xbmc (from source) and it works fine with it. Not sure what I am missing with myth. |
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