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| [00:03:11] | DeviceZer0: | k-man, yea. I used pulse audio. Im on fedora 16 and using mythtv 0.24 |
| [00:03:28] | DeviceZer0: | *I use |
| [00:04:00] | DeviceZer0: | also each time it does this..the volume goes back down to 70% |
| [00:04:04] | DeviceZer0: | I then have to turn it back up |
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| [00:27:33] | k-man: | DeviceZer0, i'm not sure but it could be related to pulse audio. check google – my initial search turned this up: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8894?cvers . . . cnum_hist=19 |
| [00:28:18] | k-man: | and this: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8769 |
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| [00:56:05] | BLZbubba: | wagnerrp: cool that did it. thanks |
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| [03:50:49] | kisak: | dekarl: ping? |
| [03:51:59] | wagnerrp: | hes asleep jim |
| [03:52:58] | kisak: | okay, I have that 10MB clip of the odd 4:3 pillarboxed in a 4:3 stream that he asked for |
| [03:53:55] | wagnerrp: | if using a compatible video decoder, mythtv should auto-scale such video as is necessary |
| [03:54:18] | kisak: | but, it doesn't |
| [03:54:50] | wagnerrp: | are you using a compatible video decoder? |
| [03:54:55] | kisak: | the docoding isn't the issue I have with it, it's the behavior of horizontal stretch |
| [03:54:58] | kisak: | yes, I am |
| [03:55:15] | wagnerrp: | meaning 'standard' and not 'vpdau'? |
| [03:55:20] | kisak: | s/docoding/decoding/ |
| [03:57:49] | kisak: | standard decoder into xv-blit, the behavior is the same |
| [03:58:12] | kisak: | max cpus: 4 |
| [04:01:54] | kisak: | would you like a copy wagnerrp, so you can see what I'm typing about? |
| [04:03:23] | wagnerrp: | i could take a look at it if you wish |
| [04:06:04] | kisak: | if you start it up, pause, then mash the 'w' key until your set to h. stretch... that's what I think is odd... then force the aspect ratio to 16:9 to get what it should look like with only h. stretch |
| [04:06:25] | wagnerrp: | oh! i see now |
| [04:06:56] | wagnerrp: | its 16:9 content, compressed to 4:3, pillarboxed out to 16:9, and letterboxed again to 4:3 |
| [04:07:05] | wagnerrp: | someone needs to be shot for that one |
| [04:07:19] | kisak: | so h. stretch is cutting off the top and the bottom of what's usable in the video that got caught |
| [04:07:59] | kisak: | it's true, someone should get kicked for that, but it did reveal an oddity in mythtv |
| [04:11:32] | wagnerrp: | yeah, horizontal fill stretches both directions to fill the full width of your screen |
| [04:13:32] | kisak: | it feels like horizontal fill is happening after the horizontal stretch didn't pull the video to the sides of the screen, and I don't think that's what it should do in this case |
| [04:13:42] | wagnerrp: | looks like forcing the aspect to 2.39:1 and using full zoom does the trick |
| [04:16:22] | kisak: | I'm fairly sure forcing an aspect ratio of 16:9 renders the video in it's intended aspect ratio |
| [04:17:25] | kisak: | since the original airdate of the episode predates HDtv |
| [04:20:19] | kisak: | when horizontal stretch is applied, does it look for the first non-black horizontal pixel to zoom into to fill the screen when it should be looking vertically? |
| [04:20:51] | wagnerrp: | im thinking it looks for the first non-black vertical column |
| [04:25:18] | kisak: | horizontal fill also fails to fill the screen horizontally, but I don't see it as being relevent to this case, it's behaving as expected |
| [04:29:02] | xris: | crap. I forget how to get mythcommflag to run in this new world where you just can't run it. |
| [04:30:56] | kisak: | xris: my script runs mythcommflag directly |
| [04:31:58] | kisak: | ionice -c 3 mythcommflag -f $VIDEODIR/$FILENAME used with 0.25 from 20120223 |
| [04:34:34] | xris: | kisak: I need the old "run on anything that hasn't been run on yet" behavior |
| [04:34:50] | xris: | some stuff still gets stuck in the queue |
| [04:36:18] | kisak: | ah, I chickened out when it came to managing the queue and allowed 2 slots so that if one job jammed up the works, a backlog wouldn't build while I wasn't looking |
| [04:36:50] | xris: | what happens when you have two stuck jobs? |
| [04:36:53] | xris: | and then 3? |
| [04:37:01] | kisak: | hasn't happened yet to me |
| [04:37:21] | xris: | but my problem is actually that some recordings never make it into the queue |
| [04:37:28] | xris: | there was a bug a few months ago that got fixed |
| [04:37:35] | xris: | but seems like it may have come back |
| [04:37:58] | wagnerrp: | xris: wait, you cant "just run it"? |
| [04:38:10] | xris: | wagnerrp: no, someone removed that behavior a few months ago |
| [04:38:13] | wagnerrp: | oh, you can still do that |
| [04:38:19] | wagnerrp: | --queue or something |
| [04:38:22] | wagnerrp: | with no other arguments |
| [04:38:26] | xris: | that's what I was looking for |
| [04:38:34] | kisak: | I've only had problems with jobs jamming the queue when I ran dozens of old recordings through the pipe |
| [04:38:37] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt just run, but it queues up new jobs to do so |
| [04:38:43] | [R]: | that's what she said... |
| [04:38:56] | xris: | yeah, there it went |
| [04:38:59] | xris: | all 40 of them |
| [04:39:20] | xris: | wonder if that bug never got fixed. or if it got unfixed |
| [04:39:21] | wagnerrp: | xris: whats the plan regarding trac and github? |
| [04:39:29] | xris: | not sure what you mean. |
| [04:39:49] | wagnerrp: | should i re-add the git/github plugins, and the old github hook? |
| [04:40:01] | xris: | Beirdo: poke. ^^^ |
| [04:40:02] | wagnerrp: | or do you intend to start hooking off our local repository immediately? |
| [04:40:19] | xris: | as soon as .25 is out, Beirdo will cut over to our own repo |
| [04:40:56] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but can we move trac now? |
| [04:43:31] | xris: | you'd have to ask Beirdo |
| [04:43:45] | xris: | he probably fell asleep on the kb again. :) |
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| [05:26:56] | k-man: | so your moving away from github for hosting the source repo? |
| [05:29:07] | Beirdo: | you want to move trac to point at the new repo? |
| [05:29:23] | Beirdo: | k-man: the primary, yes |
| [05:29:32] | Beirdo: | it will still be mirrored there |
| [05:30:42] | k-man: | cool |
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| [05:40:39] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: we will need all new hooks for the new repo, I'll be looking at that this week |
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| [06:08:20] | dekarl: | kisak: was asleep around 5:45 am :) But my intention was to have a short sample so someone (not neccesarily me) can take a peek at what is wrong with the signalling as its hard to put it in words sometimes |
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| [06:51:44] | kisak: | dekarl: you're in luck, I'm still awake at this rediculous hour |
| [06:51:58] | xris: | it's not even midnight. :) |
| [06:52:08] | kisak: | I'm on the east coast |
| [06:52:09] | xris: | somewhere. :) |
| [06:52:45] | [R]: | its drink o clock somewhere... |
| [06:53:47] | xris: | [R]: I own a brewery. it's *always* drink o clock |
| [06:54:14] | xris: | (not that I actually get to spend any time there, since I only own a tiny part, and software pays way better) |
| [06:55:07] | [R]: | haha |
| [06:56:49] | xris: | it *does* mean a half gallon of free beer every week, though. |
| [06:57:35] | [R]: | not a fan of beer |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | I was that way. belgian sour beers changed my opinion. |
| [06:58:06] | xris: | then I started to like the rest. |
| [06:58:09] | xris: | https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/L66tSLd . . . t=directlink |
| [07:00:18] | [R]: | my niece calls it peepee juice |
| [07:01:22] | dekarl: | kisak, looks like a good example of 4:3 HD picture in a 16:9 transmission being downconverted to SD in anamorphic 16:9 (704 pixels per row) without wide screen signalling / with the wrong aspect set on the transmission. The broadcaster either needs to fix the signalling before the HD->SD conversion (add "4:3 of 16:9 are used only") or behind it (add "its widescreen"). |
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| [07:03:18] | dekarl: | ffmpeg -i thinks so, too: Stream #0.0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 704x480 [PAR 10:11 DAR 4:3] <- Display Aspect 4:3 |
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| [07:13:25] | kisak: | dekarl: I figure it's SD content that's been upscaled, pillarboxed, then down-converted |
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| [07:16:14] | dekarl: | I think so, too. Its SD 4:3, upscaled to HD (and because stations don't like to switch resolution it was pillar boxed). But when converting it down something went wrong. Some equiment can correctly extract SD 4:3 from that, everything else should produce correct SD 16:9 |
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| [07:19:04] | dekarl: | it might be a simple issue, like the dude at the manual widescreen signalling switch being asleep :D |
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| [07:24:28] | justinh: | so. seems I'm not the only one bothered with mysql slowness right now |
| [07:25:30] | justinh: | and again the subject of boundaries in the filesystem come up, the guy tries an SSD & it still doesn't improve things much. Wonder what it is about some mysql installs that makes things slow |
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| [07:35:53] | Beirdo: | justinh: as I've said for a while now... |
| [07:36:02] | Beirdo: | run mysqltuner.pl |
| [07:36:17] | Beirdo: | most people do NOT have properly tuned setups :) |
| [07:36:39] | justinh: | am doing but I'm damned if I know what it's telling me |
| [07:36:52] | Beirdo: | ideally, you want your entire database to live primarily in RAM... by increasing caches, etc |
| [07:37:12] | Beirdo: | the less it has to hit disk for reads, the better you are |
| [07:37:46] | Beirdo: | I'm sure there are plenty of sites that can explain the parameters if nobody knowledgable is around. |
| [07:37:47] | justinh: | ow. how can I not have noticed this before? *** MySQL's maximum memory usage is dangerously high *** |
| [07:38:06] | justinh: | so, whatever I just plugged in there for caching values... it's too high |
| [07:38:17] | Beirdo: | yeah, sometimes people allow too many connections too :) |
| [07:39:01] | Beirdo: | man, I need sleep soon |
| [07:39:31] | justinh: | hmm max_connections = 100 is commented out |
| [07:40:29] | justinh: | how many would mythtv need anyway? there's not *that* much db stuff going on is there? |
| [07:40:45] | Beirdo: | it needs a fair number |
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| [07:41:47] | Beirdo: | I have mine set to a max of 250, and the highest usage in the last... 168 days (WOW) is 77 |
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| [07:42:17] | Beirdo: | Total buffers: 941M global + 4.6M per thread (250 max threads) |
| [07:43:01] | justinh: | I upgraded my backend to 3GB RAM recently. Don't think it should need any more than that |
| [07:43:27] | Beirdo: | for me, max possible memory usage: 2G |
| [07:44:02] | Beirdo: | hmmm, it's suggesting I increase the size of my tmp table size |
| [07:44:42] | Beirdo: | Table locks acquired immediately: 99% |
| [07:44:47] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [07:46:42] | justinh: | meh. reschedules are still taking a shade over 10 secs |
| [07:47:16] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [07:47:18] | Beirdo: | that's all? |
| [07:47:24] | Beirdo: | take over 20s here |
| [07:47:35] | justinh: | yeah, and it's way too long IMHO |
| [07:47:41] | Beirdo: | but I'm sure I have more channels to deal with :) |
| [07:48:16] | justinh: | press R in the guide, the icon doesn't show for what seems like ages |
| [07:49:39] | Beirdo: | yeah, you're not gonna get that instantaneous |
| [07:49:57] | Beirdo: | regardless of how much you futz with filesystems or database params |
| [07:50:00] | justinh: | maybe there's room for a new statetype... saying "I acknowledge you just said you want this to record", then after the scheduler has run, update it properly |
| [07:50:28] | Beirdo: | if you have a decent number of channels, it will take time |
| [07:50:41] | justinh: | cutting down the number of tuners makes it faster too |
| [07:50:46] | Beirdo: | yeah, potentially giving better feedback that it's thinking... would be good |
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| [07:51:24] | justinh: | wonder how much faster the scheduler would be without all the fancy prioritising features |
| [07:52:01] | Beirdo: | 2012-03–26 00:51:43.948522 I Scheduled 2651 items in 28.3 = 0.00 match + 28.34 place |
| [07:52:08] | justinh: | I know what the deal is though, every new schedule event has the potential to change every other event too |
| [07:52:15] | justinh: | so it has to go on a full run |
| [07:52:32] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [07:53:56] | justinh: | I've seen the query. I don't want to mess in there ;-) |
| [07:54:21] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's naaasty, but not much choice. |
| [07:54:25] | Beirdo: | complex as heck |
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| [07:55:25] | justinh: | I'd very happily lose a lot of complexity for faster operation |
| [07:56:38] | Beirdo: | well, that would still require someone DB-savvy to sit down and think through a better way to do it, and maybe even schema changes to get there |
| [07:56:46] | ** justinh is getting old, apparently ** | |
| [07:56:54] | Beirdo: | would be nice long-term, but eek |
| [07:58:09] | justinh: | so I think my custom rules can come back. they weren't what was slowing things down |
| [07:58:17] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm gonna go pass out in bed :) |
| [07:58:25] | justinh: | if anything, paring back multirec tuners would get me more benefit |
| [07:58:34] | Beirdo: | possibly, yeah |
| [07:58:39] | justinh: | sleep? ha! A luxury! |
| [07:58:50] | Beirdo: | Oh, BTW. My DB is on an ext4 fs with barriers ON |
| [07:59:10] | Beirdo: | although I'm almost completely using innodb rather than myisam |
| [07:59:17] | justinh: | Beirdo: cutting back to 2 per card from 5 makes >50% improvement |
| [07:59:30] | Beirdo: | which requires yet another set of tuning parameters |
| [07:59:41] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [07:59:43] | justinh: | I need to look at how much I'm using those 15 encoders |
| [08:00:02] | justinh: | I'm betting, nothing like 50% |
| [08:00:10] | justinh: | anyway have a good sleep :-) |
| [08:00:13] | Beirdo: | most likely not :) |
| [08:00:29] | Beirdo: | anywho. night. sleep beckons. |
| [08:01:00] | Beirdo: | ooh |
| [08:01:09] | Beirdo: | 2012-03–26 01:00:46.336969 I Scheduled 2650 items in 16.3 = 0.00 match + 16.31 place |
| [08:01:28] | Beirdo: | seems increasing the tmp table size helped :) |
| [08:01:33] | Beirdo: | anyways, night. |
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| [10:07:44] | ahhughes_: | hi guys, I just installed mythtv-frontend via the ubuntu software centre on my laptop... how/where can I configure this front end to connect to my desktop/backend on the other computer? is it just the database that I need to configure? |
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| [10:46:02] | ahhughes_: | got it, connected this laptop as a front end... problem is... I could see my media library from the front end, after a restart its gone, all I can do now is select "TV" from the root menu. |
| [10:46:43] | ahhughes_: | somehow I have disabled everything except tv, and setup on this frontend. |
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| [12:42:50] | toeb: | ahhughes_: can you connect to your sql server? I think for most systems mysql is configured to listen only on the localhost interface |
| [12:43:28] | ahhughes_: | toeb, considering I can watch live tv, and view the schedule I would assume yes. |
| [12:45:21] | ahhughes_: | but, unlike the front end on the same machine as the backend, this remote machine only has "TV" and "Setup" on the root menum, its missing Media Library, Music.... |
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| [13:12:06] | toeb: | ahhughes_: does "mysql -u mythtvuser -h dbhostname mythconverg -p" from your frontend work? |
| [13:14:42] | toeb: | you should also check you frontend logs for error messages |
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| [13:21:24] | ahhughes_: | 2012-03–26 23:14:26.662 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168....... |
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| [13:21:43] | ahhughes_: | so yes, db looks ok |
| [13:24:12] | toeb: | ahhughes_: could you pastebin your frontend logs? Maybe there we can see something.. |
| [13:26:30] | ahhughes_: | toeb, http://pastie.org/3671678 |
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| [13:31:12] | ahhughes_: | toeb, thanks for your help.... cant keep my eye lids open much longer. I dont see any errors inthe logs that would serve as a warning |
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| [13:34:08] | seeker: | Hallo |
| [13:37:24] | wagnerrp: | is french a particularly verbose language? |
| [13:37:45] | quicksilver: | compared to english, certainly |
| [13:37:52] | wagnerrp: | the TMDB french overview for A New Hope is more than twice as long as the english one |
| [13:37:54] | quicksilver: | compared to spanish or italian – no, very similar. |
| [13:38:17] | quicksilver: | english is just about the most concise language written in latin script. |
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| [13:43:08] | lis0r: | that's cos we're lazy buggers, and if there's a foreign word shorter than ours, we nick it ;> |
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| [14:27:13] | peitolm: | anyone in here running on FreeBSD? |
| [14:27:26] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [14:27:41] | peitolm: | with tuners? |
| [14:27:46] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [14:27:53] | peitolm: | cool, any non USB ones? |
| [14:28:02] | wagnerrp: | a HDHomeRun |
| [14:28:16] | peitolm: | (i'm trying to work out if this bt848/bt878 card might be suitable to use |
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| [14:28:25] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [14:28:39] | wagnerrp: | and i would say the same thing were you using Linux too |
| [14:28:54] | peitolm: | if i was using linux, i'd be using a pvt-250 or a pvr-350 |
| [14:28:58] | peitolm: | (which in fact, i am) |
| [14:29:10] | wagnerrp: | and those same cards have some form of support in freebsd |
| [14:29:25] | wagnerrp: | however, there are some issues that preclude their use in mythtv at this point |
| [14:29:34] | peitolm: | yeah, that's what i was reading, |
| [14:29:49] | wagnerrp: | last time i tried maybe a year ago, there were all sorts of IOCTL issues |
| [14:30:14] | peitolm: | seems mythtv needs the cx88 stuff, I have a DVB-S2 card that should hopefully work (when i get home to configure the backend) |
| [14:30:26] | peitolm: | just looking for a composite/s-video capture solution |
| [14:30:39] | peitolm: | might have to pony up for a HVR-4400 |
| [14:31:24] | wagnerrp: | i just have my pair of -150s stuffed into a slave backend on one of the frontends |
| [14:32:33] | peitolm: | my frontends are osx boxes |
| [14:32:55] | peitolm: | i have a spare box i will use in the interrim, but I'd like to cut down on the number of machines |
| [14:34:11] | peitolm: | i've heardrumours that my TV provider is starting to disable component output, which would mean a HDHR would be less useful |
| [14:34:20] | wagnerrp: | HDPVR? |
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| [14:34:35] | peitolm: | hd Homerun |
| [14:34:48] | wagnerrp: | why would that care? its a digital tuner |
| [14:35:00] | peitolm: | oh, i think i'm confused, my bad |
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| [14:35:15] | peitolm: | i thought you were talking about the usb component capture box |
| [14:35:17] | wagnerrp: | HDHR is a network attached tuner |
| [14:35:24] | wagnerrp: | HDPVR is a USB component capture box |
| [14:35:35] | peitolm: | I was thinking HDPVR, not HDHR |
| [14:36:14] | wagnerrp: | in theory, you might be able to get an HDPVR running in FreeBSD through webcamd, but i honestly have no idea |
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| [14:39:41] | peitolm: | wagnerrp: are you running git master on your freebsd box? |
| [14:40:45] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [14:41:17] | peitolm: | don't suppose you can easily share your configure line? |
| [14:41:35] | wagnerrp: | with or without RAOP? |
| [14:41:48] | peitolm: | without |
| [14:43:09] | wagnerrp: | ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --extra-cflags=-I/usr/local/include --extra-ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libfaac --enable-libxvid --enable-libx264 --enable-libvpx --enable-nonfree --enable-libfftw3 -disable-vdpau |
| [14:43:31] | wagnerrp: | theres something funky with vdpau that causes it to fail compilation if you have the library installed |
| [14:43:36] | wagnerrp: | so you have to force it disabled |
| [14:43:44] | peitolm: | ta |
| [14:43:48] | ** peitolm ponders ** | |
| [14:43:51] | peitolm: | ah |
| [14:44:05] | wagnerrp: | check the version in the ports tree |
| [14:44:08] | peitolm: | what's libfaac used for? that's the frontend audio stuff? |
| [14:44:25] | wagnerrp: | supposedly theres some configure patch in there that eliminates the need for --extra-cflags and --extra-ldflags |
| [14:44:52] | wagnerrp: | lame will not be recognized without it currently, causing configure to fail |
| [14:45:10] | wagnerrp: | while with it, the linker will pull in existing mythtv libraries installed on your system |
| [14:45:22] | wagnerrp: | causing problems if there has been an ABI bump since your last install |
| [14:45:35] | ** peitolm will deinstall 0.24.2 before building just in case ** | |
| [14:45:45] | wagnerrp: | ive just ended up always uninstalling the previous version before building the next |
| [14:45:57] | wagnerrp: | and used snapshots so i can roll back in the event something bad happens |
| [14:46:08] | peitolm: | although i'm not sure how that built, considering it should have built the dependancies, but --enable-libfaac isn't finding libfaac |
| [14:46:09] | wagnerrp: | all that --enable stuff is for the HLS code |
| [14:46:19] | peitolm: | HLS? |
| [14:46:25] | wagnerrp: | if you dont intend to use that, just discard those options |
| [14:46:32] | wagnerrp: | HTTP Live Streaming |
| [14:46:34] | peitolm: | ah |
| [14:46:41] | peitolm: | no, don't need that at this precise time |
| [14:46:54] | wagnerrp: | the --enable-libfftw3, im not sure |
| [14:47:12] | wagnerrp: | i think that might be used for time stretch, but then that doesnt really get used for a dedicated backend |
| [14:52:57] | ** peitolm tries to remember the next step before giving up and actually looking in the documentation ** | |
| [14:53:23] | wagnerrp: | next step? |
| [14:54:09] | peitolm: | ah, make no worky, *tries gmake* |
| [14:54:19] | wagnerrp: | yeah, gmake |
| [14:54:43] | wagnerrp: | and you need COMPILER_PATH=/usr/local/bin or else it fails in some of the assembler bits in ffmpeg |
| [14:54:57] | peitolm: | heh, guess i'll hit that in a min then |
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| [15:11:38] | thecardsmith: | anyone know who to contact about the wiki being broken on mythtv.org? I'm trying to update some docs, but, I get an error each time I try to save a page... |
| [15:11:48] | wagnerrp: | its known |
| [15:11:51] | thecardsmith: | ...and according to the recent edits, I'm the last one to have made a successful edit, on saturday |
| [15:11:52] | thecardsmith: | ok, cool |
| [15:12:27] | wagnerrp: | ive been waiting for the people actually doing that to wake up before kludging a fix myself |
| [15:12:53] | wagnerrp: | speaking of... |
| [15:13:00] | ** wagnerrp pings Beirdo and xris ** | |
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| [15:37:30] | angryWolf: | hello to all |
| [15:38:11] | angryWolf: | i have some trouble to reinstall my mythtv after the latest updates with my debian wheezy 64 bit system. the components wont configure after installing. is there anyone who have had the same problem? |
| [15:39:44] | peitolm: | wagnerrp: don't suppose you've seen this type of error before? http://www.pastie.org/3672374 |
| [15:40:29] | wagnerrp: | angryWolf: you have to be a bit more elaborate on what the problem is |
| [15:40:42] | clever: | peitolm: looks like its simply missing the __u16 defines, though i have no idea why, but QT has its own versions |
| [15:41:02] | clever: | peitolm: quint16 would be one posible way to get arround the problem |
| [15:41:13] | wagnerrp: | peitolm: cant say ive seen those |
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| [15:41:19] | wagnerrp: | could i see your configure output? |
| [15:41:24] | peitolm: | possibly |
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| [15:41:51] | clever: | ive had similar trouble when getting some stuff to compile well on both windows and linux, but QT has the right defines in it already |
| [15:42:04] | peitolm: | my scroll back doesn't go back far enough, let me re-run configure |
| [15:42:18] | wagnerrp: | peitolm: hang on |
| [15:42:43] | wagnerrp: | this will probably be more useful to you... http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2303 |
| [15:42:51] | peitolm: | http://www.pastie.org/3672394 |
| [15:43:18] | pplmaker: | wagnerrp: thanks for replying to my emails on mythtv-users about scanning for new videos |
| [15:43:37] | clever: | wagnerrp: from what ive see, those defines 'just exist' when the compiler is doing its job |
| [15:43:42] | wagnerrp: | youre Joe? |
| [15:44:06] | peitolm: | master-freebsd-64bit doesn't have DVB support enabled DVB support no [/usr/src/linux-9.0-RELEASE/include] |
| [15:44:20] | peitolm: | "DVB location needs to have linux/dvb/frontend.h [/usr/src/linux-9.0-RELEASE/include]" |
| [15:44:42] | peitolm: | which i have is /usr/local/include |
| [15:44:55] | wagnerrp: | peitolm: correct, since DVB is a linux API, i didnt bother including it |
| [15:45:10] | wagnerrp: | besides the webcamd stuff, are there any cards with native DVB support in freebsd? |
| [15:45:24] | peitolm: | cx88 is a userspace v4l implementation |
| [15:45:32] | peitolm: | or am i getting confused again |
| [15:45:32] | wagnerrp: | V4L or DVB? |
| [15:45:33] | peitolm: | one sec |
| [15:45:38] | wagnerrp: | those are two different things |
| [15:45:42] | clever: | the error doesnt seem to have anything to do with DVB, its clearly saying that '__u16' was not declared in this scope |
| [15:46:07] | wagnerrp: | clever: right, but the reason it fails when the buildbot succeeds is because the buildbot has that whole chunk of code disabled |
| [15:46:31] | pplmaker: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [15:46:34] | clever: | wagnerrp: from what ive seen, linux gcc has that define by default, so the buildbot may not care |
| [15:46:41] | clever: | wagnerrp: ive only see it missing on windows based gcc |
| [15:47:22] | peitolm: | http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki <-- cx88 is the driver, + software implementation of the linux DVB API |
| [15:47:32] | peitolm: | http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki/Overview/TipsAndTricks |
| [15:48:27] | peitolm: | so it should hopefully work, (once this define is sorted) |
| [15:48:48] | clever: | peitolm: windows or linux compiling? |
| [15:48:52] | peitolm: | freebsd |
| [15:49:05] | clever: | ah, not sure if my problem applies then |
| [15:49:49] | peitolm: | except 0.24.2 was happy |
| [15:49:58] | ** peitolm goes to look at the port makefile ** | |
| [15:52:52] | clever: | i still think swapping __u16 for quint16 would be the simplest solution |
| [15:53:21] | peitolm: | bingo |
| [15:53:39] | peitolm: | http://www.pastie.org/3672470 |
| [15:53:39] | clever: | qt already provides it for the same purpose, and its pre-configured when qt is installed, saving ./configure the work |
| [15:54:17] | peitolm: | wagnerrp: ^^ that's a patch from /usr/ports/multimedia/mythtv/files/ |
| [15:54:19] | clever: | that works, aslong as uint16_t exists on every distro/compiler |
| [15:55:37] | wagnerrp: | i think the quint16 thing is preferred |
| [15:55:57] | peitolm: | if it works, and that's what upstream prefer, then cool |
| [15:56:00] | angryWolf: | Can anyone tell me why my mythtv installation always get a dpkg errorcode 1 ? http://www.pastie.org/3672479 |
| [15:56:02] | clever: | yeah, much less chance for trouble since we know QT will always be present |
| [15:56:04] | peitolm: | just testing the localone first |
| [15:56:22] | peitolm: | yippeee, on to the next problem |
| [15:56:27] | peitolm: | /usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: error: #error "<malloc.h> has been replaced by <stdlib.h>" |
| [15:56:39] | peitolm: | now, i saw another patch for that,.. |
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| [15:59:00] | peitolm: | o.k. a simple ifndef sorts that one |
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| [16:11:04] | adam_112: | I've setup a new frontend / backend. The tuner is an hdhomerun with CC. The PC is an Dual core running 24.2 of MythTv. The graphics card is a Nvida 8600. I can record and play fine. However, when I try to stream livetv is breaks up and I get errors. usually buffering or jump file. Anybody have any ideas. If got some log if somebody is interested. |
| [16:15:28] | angryWolf: | Have anyone the time to take a look on my mythtv install problem? http://www.pastie.org/3672479 |
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| [16:16:06] | adam_112: | Doesn't seem like anybody is awake :) |
| [16:16:35] | angryWolf: | i know theyare... just be patient hehe |
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| [16:24:48] | angryWolf: | will anyone try to help me? |
| [16:26:43] | wagnerrp: | more specifically, we either done speak german, or dont use RPMs |
| [16:26:49] | wagnerrp: | *dont |
| [16:28:02] | adam_112: | I've setup a new frontend / backend. The tuner is an hdhomerun with CC. The PC is an Dual core running 24.2 of MythTv. The graphics card is a Nvida 8600. I can record and play fine. However, when I try to stream livetv is breaks up and I get errors. usually buffering or jump file. Anybody have any ideas. If got some log if somebody is interested. |
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| [16:32:31] | angryWolf: | i get a dpkg errorcode 1 always i try to install all mythtv packages on debian wheezy 64 bit. http://www.pastie.org/3672479 |
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| [16:38:53] | angryWolf: | i get a dpkg errorcode 1 always i try to install all mythtv packages on debian wheezy 64 bit. http://www.pastie.org/3672479 |
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| [16:48:04] | adam_112: | I'm seeing this error on the front end – 2012-03–25 22:42:24.060 Player(0): Waited 100ms for video buffers AAdDdLAAAAAAAAAAA 2012-03–25 22:42:24.102 Player(0), Error: Waited too long for decoder to fill video buffers. Exiting.. |
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| [17:13:12] | angryWolf: | i don't wanna spam, but missing a answer or just a wink *smile* |
| [17:13:16] | angryWolf: | i get a dpkg errorcode 1 always i try to install all mythtv packages on debian wheezy 64 bit. http://www.pastie.org/3672479 |
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| [17:18:52] | dekarl: | angryWolf: looks like mythtv-common doesnt like it when the group/user exists already |
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| [18:51:22] | RagingMind: | suggestions in tracking down a "Error Opening jump program file" while changing live tv channels error? |
| [18:52:53] | dekarl: | RagingMind: are you running 0.24 or master/0.25rc? |
| [18:55:27] | pplmaker: | does anyone know what the difference is between 'videos storage group' in mythtv-setup and 'directories that hold videos' in media settings? |
| [18:57:13] | RagingMind: | 0.24.2 |
| [18:57:59] | RagingMind: | ATI TV-Wonder (bttv) for a tuner. mythbackend and frontend are separate systems connected by gigabit ethernet |
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| [19:00:53] | dekarl: | RagingMind: ok, was thinking about an master/0.25 issue. but its not that, then |
| [19:01:34] | RagingMind: | I've seen a few threads from people with similar sounding issues, but no solutions yet |
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| [20:18:27] | lapion: | I have had this problem since 0.23 + fixes ( don't remember which fixes_ |
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| [20:33:20] | dekarl: | btw, does scanning DVB-T2 in the UK still leave original_network_id and transport_id empty? (I'm curious if #10054 might have fixed #10217, too) |
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| [20:47:31] | operat0r: | Hello |
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| [20:48:01] | operat0r: | I got Extended basicl cable and HD channels .. when I got a PcHDTV_HD-5500 |
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| [20:49:15] | operat0r: | when I got a PcHDTV_HD-5500 I could never get it to record or even display /seek HD channels .. my current setup is http://rmccurdy.com/stuff/mythtv.txt |
| [20:49:46] | operat0r: | everything works but when I did all the wiki stuff to get the seek HD channels etc I never got anything |
| [20:50:04] | wagnerrp: | chances are that card is not going to be able to record anything but the local broadcast channels |
| [20:50:20] | wagnerrp: | any cable-only channels will likely be encrypted and unusable |
| [20:50:53] | operat0r: | wagnerrp: it works fine we have no cable box |
| [20:51:06] | operat0r: | as in the TV can pickup HD just fine |
| [20:51:35] | wagnerrp: | first step, upgrade to a stable version |
| [20:51:36] | operat0r: | well .. now I say that ... dtvscan works |
| [20:51:41] | wagnerrp: | you are running unstable, pre-release software |
| [20:53:17] | operat0r: | so does this look like HD ? http://rmccurdy.com/stuff/mythtv.txt ? ( refresh ) its output of dtvscan |
| [20:54:05] | wagnerrp: | 'VSB_8" means your local broadcast channels |
| [20:54:31] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, anything beyond your local broadcast channels are likely to be encrypted and unusable |
| [20:55:08] | wagnerrp: | when i say broadcast channels, i mean the local stations retransmitted over the cable line |
| [20:55:13] | operat0r: | wagnerrp: kk so how come TV can pick them up ? |
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| [20:55:33] | wagnerrp: | probably because its actually picking up analog stations |
| [20:56:13] | operat0r: | no its HD ... the TV will be like 11 , 11–1 etc .. |
| [20:56:22] | operat0r: | and 11–1 would be HD |
| [20:56:26] | wagnerrp: | 11 is analog, 11–1 is digital |
| [20:56:33] | wagnerrp: | HD is irrelevant |
| [20:56:41] | wagnerrp: | and what is channel 11? |
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| [20:56:51] | operat0r: | Just making ane example |
| [20:57:04] | operat0r: | as in 11 looks beeter then 11–1 so I call id HD |
| [20:57:05] | operat0r: | :) |
| [20:57:33] | Algaeman: | Is there anything I can add to a movie filename past title and year to help disambiguate it on tmdb? (myth 0.25) |
| [20:58:34] | wagnerrp: | year is not actually used at all, just title |
| [20:58:50] | operat0r: | Algaeman: you can bind it to IMDB number |
| [20:58:53] | wagnerrp: | and assuming you are using a proper title, its generally good for around 90% accuracy |
| [20:59:09] | wagnerrp: | IMDB number is not parsed out of filesnames and used for searching |
| [20:59:50] | Algaeman: | yes, it is good for 98%. I'd like to get the other 2. How do I bind it to the number, eithre imdb or tmdb so I don't have to hand enter these last few into my local database? |
| [20:59:51] | operat0r: | from what I remember at one point in time you could put in the IMDB number and it would use that for the coverart/info no ? |
| [21:00:14] | wagnerrp: | operat0r: you have to specify it manually through the UI, it does not get parsed from the filename |
| [21:00:29] | operat0r: | Ya what he said ^^ |
| [21:00:50] | Algaeman: | So there is a spot where you can put in the number and it will pull the rest of the info from tmdb? |
| [21:00:56] | wagnerrp: | Algaeman: hit 'e', or go through the menu to edit settings, and set the inetref |
| [21:01:17] | wagnerrp: | then hit 'w', or go through the menu and have it pull the related details |
| [21:02:33] | operat0r: | wagnerrp: so how do I get or can I get my 5500 card to pick up these "Digital" channels ? |
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| [21:03:07] | wagnerrp: | operat0r: any digital channels (the ones with the '-' in them) that your TV gets, your -5500 will be able to record as well |
| [21:03:08] | operat0r: | I got the 5500 just for the better quality ;/ I had a wintv card |
| [21:03:27] | wagnerrp: | digital is digital |
| [21:03:41] | wagnerrp: | as long as there is sufficient signal level for the demod to perform full recovery |
| [21:03:42] | operat0r: | wagnerrp: KK so how do I tell mythtv or anything for that matter that i want them ? i only get crap standard now |
| [21:03:57] | wagnerrp: | there will be exactly zero difference between a PCHDTV card or a WinTV-HVR |
| [21:04:23] | wagnerrp: | add the tuner, add a video source, map the tuner to the video source, scan for channels |
| [21:04:43] | operat0r: | sooo I guess channels.conf-qam-correct is not what I want ? I was thinking i needed a HD tunder to pickup the 'better' channels |
| [21:04:57] | wagnerrp: | no, use mythtv's internal scanner, do not use a channels.conf file |
| [21:05:07] | wagnerrp: | there is no such thing as an HD tuner |
| [21:05:11] | Algaeman: | I see no box to enter the inetref when I go to edit the details on a video. |
| [21:05:13] | wagnerrp: | as there is no such thing as HD broadcasts |
| [21:05:18] | wagnerrp: | there are digital broadcasts |
| [21:05:26] | wagnerrp: | carrying streams of digital data |
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| [21:05:38] | wagnerrp: | resolution doesnt come into play until you try to decode it |
| [21:07:22] | operat0r: | wagnerrp: KK so with the 5500 card I should be able to do it all through mythtv-setup ? Any wiki link or guide I can follow for 'digital' as I was never able to get it to wrk year or so ago |
| [21:08:24] | wagnerrp: | there should be documentation on the wiki, and on the main site, for configuring digital tuners |
| [21:08:29] | wagnerrp: | i dont know the links off hand |
| [21:09:17] | operat0r: | KK thx ... well now that I know im looking for DIGITAL and not QAM stuff im good QAM is just for satalites no ? |
| [21:09:39] | wagnerrp: | QAM is the modulation scheme used for digital cable in the US |
| [21:09:43] | Algaeman: | Thx wagnerp. The W does work, except for one dang movie (Being There, with Peter Sellers). I can handle adding one entry by hand. |
| [21:09:46] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to digital broadcast which uses 8VSB |
| [21:12:58] | operat0r: | so this is not what I want ? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Adding_Digital_Cab . . . SA/Canada%29 |
| [21:13:10] | wagnerrp: | that is what you want |
| [21:13:17] | operat0r: | kk |
| [21:13:28] | wagnerrp: | ATSC is broadcast, QAM is cable |
| [21:13:32] | operat0r: | thats the crap I was trying to test before |
| [21:13:32] | wagnerrp: | and most tuner cards will do both |
| [21:13:35] | operat0r: | KK |
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| [21:17:42] | operat0r: | I have schedulesdirect account so prob just change it to "Charter Communications – Cable" to "Charter Communications – Digital" |
| [21:17:56] | wagnerrp: | or add another lineup |
| [21:17:59] | wagnerrp: | you can have four |
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| [21:19:20] | operat0r: | but then when I cancel cable and just switch to ANT Local Broadcast Listings – Antenna (30076) PC:30076 |
| [21:19:48] | operat0r: | I see it has 11–1 in there sweet |
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| [21:24:22] | wagnerrp: | note, channel 11–1 is not necessarily on channel 11 |
| [21:24:37] | wagnerrp: | it could be on channel 30-something |
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| [21:24:52] | wagnerrp: | and simply carries information that tells mythtv it wants to be called channel 11 |
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| [21:33:17] | TheAsp: | i need to get an atsc card... |
| [21:33:58] | TheAsp: | Whats the hotness these days? |
| [21:35:25] | operat0r: | Hummm no go http://pastebin.ca/2132305 |
| [21:35:59] | operat0r: | TheAsp: mimikatz yer password in plain text :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pozeh8j9drc |
| [21:37:50] | TheAsp: | not quite what I was looking for |
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| [21:39:09] | operat0r: | TheAsp: still hotness eh ?!? |
| [21:39:27] | TheAsp: | yes, it does pass that test |
| [21:39:32] | operat0r: | no need to rainbow tables anymore unless you get a repair\sam file |
| [21:40:13] | operat0r: | same sort of output from w_scan -fa -A1 -c US -x -o 7 |
| [21:40:17] | operat0r: | nothing so far |
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| [21:59:49] | pplmaker: | do you guys think people will bail if/when cetonq comes out? |
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| [22:00:48] | wagnerrp: | cetonq? |
| [22:01:10] | pplmaker: | yeah you know, their ready made appliance w/extenders |
| [22:02:04] | wagnerrp: | way to go google... all im finding is every single tech site and their worthless tags |
| [22:03:29] | wagnerrp: | its going to follow the route of every other commercial DVR |
| [22:03:29] | pplmaker: | it isnt really out so there isnt incredibly specific information – just a couple of demos |
| [22:03:52] | wagnerrp: | the people who want a DVR will get one, the people who want a hobby will use mythtv or tvheadend or winmce |
| [22:03:59] | pplmaker: | it does look like they are gunning to be bought by MSFT |
| [22:04:59] | wagnerrp: | commercial units will never reach the flexibility of a PC running a software DVR |
| [22:05:18] | wagnerrp: | while software DVRs will never hit the level of integration of commercial units |
| [22:05:40] | wagnerrp: | (primarily because commercial units only have a single set of hardware, which is what makes clean integration possible) |
| [22:06:23] | pplmaker: | thats probably right |
| [22:06:39] | pplmaker: | except for the 900 pound gorilla – apple |
| [22:06:52] | kormoc: | Apple doesn't make a DVR |
| [22:07:39] | pplmaker: | yeah but they carry so much weight they can force entire industries to cooperate with them, no? |
| [22:08:08] | kormoc: | They're not doing so well so far with the Cable industry |
| [22:08:20] | pplmaker: | if they get millions of people to use their tv's or whatever, they can force cable compaies to become compatible with them |
| [22:08:34] | kormoc: | I doubt that |
| [22:08:40] | pplmaker: | I think they had major conflicts with the music industry initially, no? |
| [22:08:47] | kormoc: | Cable would take money from their iTunes store |
| [22:08:57] | kormoc: | I doubt they'll ever truly become a PVR |
| [22:09:38] | pplmaker: | it is hard to imagine |
| [22:09:52] | TheAsp: | woah, hdhr is an ethernet device? |
| [22:10:02] | kormoc: | Yes, yes it is |
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| [22:10:20] | pplmaker: | but it was also hard to imagine the popularity of something liek an ipad before it came out |
| [22:10:31] | kormoc: | There's a huge difference |
| [22:11:14] | kormoc: | Apple making a DVR/PVR would cause them to drop a huge chunk of income that they currently make selling you tv/movies direct |
| [22:12:02] | pplmaker: | i actually dont know how many people actually buy videos from apple right now |
| [22:12:12] | pplmaker: | is it comparable to what they make selling music? |
| [22:12:17] | ac00perw: | Hi all, wondering if somebody can give me a hand with lirc/usb_uirt? It's working pretty well w/ Hauppauge remote and IR blasting, but it's too quick and I have 2 instances of lircd running |
| [22:13:02] | kormoc: | pplmaker, it's about 10 million purchases a month iirc |
| [22:13:35] | TheAsp: | oh poop, only one coax |
| [22:13:38] | kormoc: | pplmaker, about 10% of netflix, or 85% of hulu's market share |
| [22:14:10] | pplmaker: | call it, what, roughly, $150 million a year? |
| [22:14:53] | kormoc: | pplmaker, it's about $20 million a month, or $240 million a year |
| [22:15:11] | pplmaker: | you might argue that selling apple branded tvs would compensate.. plus if they can market the interface well, as they do, they might be able to sell videos more easily via the tv |
| [22:16:01] | pplmaker: | the videos they sell now can only be viewed on a computer? and appletv? |
| [22:16:25] | pplmaker: | (i have no idea how many people own appletvs but i dont know anyone that does) |
| [22:16:36] | kormoc: | pplmaker, no. iPhone, iPad, computer, appletv and any airplay targets |
| [22:16:45] | kormoc: | pplmaker, buy it once, watch it everywhere |
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| [23:12:04] | AndyCap: | kormoc: heh, and here I thought appletv was their "pvr" |
| [23:12:54] | Cardoe: | AndyCap: It doesn't record anything |
| [23:13:11] | AndyCap: | Cardoe: it doesn't need to. ;) |
| [23:13:22] | Cardoe: | Which means its not a Personal Video Recorder |
| [23:14:03] | AndyCap: | Cardoe: ah, and now you figured out why I put it in quotes |
| [23:23:35] | wagnerrp: | "network media player"? |
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| [23:31:36] | wagnerrp: | mmm... the supreme court rules human gene sequences are not patentable |
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