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Sunday, March 25th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:02] Greek-Boy: well
[00:00:07] Greek-Boy: I have a Optoma 3DXL
[00:00:26] Greek-Boy: didnt have it when I had a HTPC (mythtv)
[00:01:21] Greek-Boy: i've only tested it with blu-ray but I believe it can do both 3D formats, even the ones coming from DirecTV whic hI assume is Side-by-Side and Top-and-Bottom 3D?
[00:01:49] wagnerrp: and both of those have no video card requirements
[00:02:07] wagnerrp: since youre just sending two videos squashed into a 1920x1080 frame
[00:02:21] wagnerrp: either 960x1080 or 1920x540
[00:02:40] Greek-Boy: nice
[00:02:54] Greek-Boy: but I would still like to "future-proof" my system.
[00:02:57] xris: NOTICE: going to start mythtv dns/server migration in the next few minutes.
[00:04:57] Greek-Boy: what i know is that the Optoma 3DXL breaks a single hdmi stream into two streams (left and right or top and bottom)
[00:05:16] Greek-Boy: so that the stereoscopic effect can be achieved with a dual projector setup
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[00:26:53] kisak: I believe mythbackend just went berserk
[00:27:45] kisak: yup, using 7.3 GB of ram
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[01:24:52] kisak: Welcome back MythLogBot, we look forward to your silent service.
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[01:43:27] [R]: super terrific trac spam wagnerrp !
[01:44:07] wagnerrp: awesome! free young teen porn!
[01:44:19] [R]: AND propecia body building
[01:45:17] kisak: aww... I get left out ... MediaWiki internal error.
[01:45:29] kisak: seen at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
[01:46:05] wagnerrp: Beirdo: did you guys forget to add all the filters from the old system during the migration?
[01:46:11] kisak: (and PopularPages)
[01:46:11] wagnerrp: both of these things should have never made it through
[01:46:48] wagnerrp: and we cant delete tickets either
[01:47:27] wagnerrp: the entire spam filter seems to be completely missing
[01:52:28] Beirdo: the wiki went over by copying the db
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[02:03:16] jpabq: Beirdo, what is the trick to get mythbackend to NOT log to syslog? I have tried doing --syslog none, but I am still getting mythbackend message in /var/log/messages.
[02:04:04] Beirdo: ummm.
[02:04:11] Beirdo: you using a wrapper script?
[02:04:15] Beirdo: like mythbuntus?
[02:04:30] jpabq: Fedora 16, so systemd
[02:04:38] Beirdo: check the startup script
[02:04:46] jpabq: Okay. Thanks.
[02:04:50] Beirdo: it might be putting in commandline args you aren't expecting :)
[02:05:00] Beirdo: which would certainly be confusing
[02:08:10] jpabq: I wrote the systemd file for mythbackend myself, so I know what args I told it to pass. But, maybe systemd is auto sending stdout to syslog? I will look into it.
[02:08:23] Beirdo: that could be too
[02:09:16] jpabq: As soon as the current show is done recording, I will add a -q to the arg list.
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[02:52:38] Beirdo: pity any suckers using cox.net
[02:52:52] Beirdo: they are refusing to talk to our old server
[02:54:50] wagnerrp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgqfnKG_T4
[03:03:33] wagnerrp: Beirdo: that one *might* actually be useful for some of the commflag stuff
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[03:04:07] wagnerrp: specifically starting around 12:45
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[03:04:26] Beirdo: hehe
[03:05:21] Beirdo: yeah, a lot of what he's going trhough is what kinda things I've got going in the GPU stuff
[03:05:24] Beirdo: or will
[03:07:20] wagnerrp: the need for a bigger gun?
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[03:09:31] Beirdo: no, I meant the algorithms before that :)
[03:11:19] wagnerrp: target tracking, and firing solutions for drop and leading?
[03:11:38] Beirdo: image histogramming and classification
[03:12:18] wagnerrp: "have you looked into powering this with a raspberry pi?"... what a tard
[03:12:45] Beirdo: hah, you kidding me? I only played a bit and stored it for later
[03:12:51] wagnerrp: lets ask a question about the latest buzzword!
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[03:15:23] Beirdo: grrrr
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[03:16:21] jpabq: Beirdo, FYI, adding -q fixed my problem.
[03:16:48] Beirdo: OK, so it was systemd logging stdout.
[03:16:49] Beirdo: hehe
[03:16:52] Beirdo: good to know
[03:17:14] jpabq: Yeah. I figured others might ask you the same question for the same situation.
[03:19:25] Beirdo: quite likely :)
[03:19:33] Beirdo: oooh, I like the new CSS on buildbot
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[03:48:49] wagnerrp: WTH
[03:49:07] wagnerrp: i could have sworn i added some code that should have fixed #10500, but now im just not finding it
[03:52:21] wagnerrp: ah, there it is
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[04:19:42] sphery: wagnerrp: I thought the same thing when I saw #10500
[04:20:12] sphery: figured since you accepted it, though, that you thought it was in some other code path or something
[04:21:00] wagnerrp: no, just been dealing with other stuff all day
[04:21:05] wagnerrp: hadnt had a chance to look at it
[04:21:09] sphery: it probably didn't help that the e-mail for that fix didn't come through thanks to github (I got it on Beirdo's gpu-commflag merge)
[04:22:23] sphery: ah, no, it was the mythmessage remove that didn't come through until gpu-commflag
[04:44:15] Beirdo: heh
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[07:14:48] dekarl: Beirdo, can you regenerate yesterdays chatlogs? http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-03-24 looks like there was something interesting going on around the european DST switch
[07:16:21] dekarl: seems to have only hit that one day/channel
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[08:07:55] dekarl: wagnerrp: RealD uses circular polaristation (good and cheap glasses and you can tilt your head) ... wikipedia says its 144Hz (24fps, each shown 3 times, alternating L/R) single projector, but thats not so interesting in a dual projector setup
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[10:30:17] akv: I'm considering an upgrade of my graphics card for my MythT box – i like my current nvidia, but it's lacking performnce (build in GeForce 8200) – I can see that GT 430 has all X i the card status on the VDPAU page. That card is affordable, so should I just get that or a newer one?
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[11:44:54] sphery: akv: I don't know details, but I know some say the 4xx and 5xx series got some benefits for HD audio bitstreaming but was generally a step down for video processing compared to the 2xx series (see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/503420#503420 for a recent discussion)
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[14:57:17] toeb: hi, i want to create some eit fixups, but i'm new to the QRegExps... i was wondering if there is a nice small tool to create and test reqular expressions for qt?
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[17:46:35] tgm4883: I just want to confirm sasc-ng is still a banned topic?
[17:46:45] tgm4883: So I can delete this forum thread if necessary
[17:47:23] [R]: of course its still banned
[17:48:09] tgm4883: ok
[17:56:20] ** wagnerrp wants to read the forum thread **
[18:00:07] ** wagnerrp cant find it and assume it has already been deleted **
[18:01:07] wagnerrp: tgm4883: anyway, the problem isnt that it is inherent bad
[18:01:10] wagnerrp: its like bittorrent
[18:01:16] wagnerrp: there are perfectly legitimate uses of it
[18:01:29] wagnerrp: but the vast majority use it to steal cable/satellite
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[18:02:46] wagnerrp: ah, the tevii S660 thread
[18:03:24] wagnerrp: in the past, sasc used to require the application to pass the encrypted recording back out, through it, and let it handle everything
[18:03:51] wagnerrp: now, it inserts itself as a dummy tuner driver, capturing off the tuner, and passing it through to mythtv without its knowledge
[18:04:02] wagnerrp: while that means you dont have all the people bitching for us to support it
[18:04:25] wagnerrp: it also means they have to have a good, proper, and complete implementation of the DVB API to disguise themselves behind
[18:04:33] wagnerrp: and they dont, its buggy, and semi-broken
[18:04:40] wagnerrp: so you have all sorts of things that dont work properly
[18:04:47] wagnerrp: and youre right back to people complaining for use to support it
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[19:08:23] dekarl: toeb, I don't know of a nice tool to test QT Regexps for making EITFixups
[19:14:04] dekarl: I've just tried some only tester for regex but they are no good either
[19:15:10] dekarl: but this one at least works http://www.perlfect.com/articles/regextutor.shtml
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[19:20:25] Beirdo: dekarl: no idea what its problem is
[19:20:47] Beirdo: I've specified the dang timezone 3 times over, it still complains
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[19:23:08] dekarl: the error message seems to be off, too. I'd bet you did not specify "UTC/0.0/no DST" on for that day or something ;)
[19:23:31] Beirdo: I have it set to "UTC"
[19:24:00] dekarl: What I was thinking is that there is no 3:39 GMT today
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[19:24:50] dekarl: time to hit sack
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[19:26:40] Beirdo: well, it's not using GMT (I tried that too!)
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[19:34:04] m15k: Is it possbile to enable addons via CLI?
[19:34:51] wagnerrp: enable addons?
[19:35:08] wagnerrp: you mean frontend plugins?
[19:35:13] m15k: mythweb
[19:35:15] m15k: and so on
[19:35:37] [R]: theres nothign to "enable"... if you watn mythweb, install it
[19:35:46] wagnerrp: mythweb is a PHP application completely decoupled from mythtv
[19:35:56] wagnerrp: there is no way to enable it from the GUI
[19:36:01] wagnerrp: or disable it from the GUI for that matter
[19:36:17] wagnerrp: as for frontend plugins, there is still no way to disable a plugin
[19:36:24] wagnerrp: if it exists, it is enabled
[19:36:31] m15k: ok understand
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[19:37:02] wagnerrp: so yes, you can enable plugins from the terminal
[19:37:17] wagnerrp: but that is really a bad explanation of what youre doing
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[19:37:29] wagnerrp: since what you're actually doing is installing it from the terminal
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[19:47:29] LTHorn: hello everyone. quick question for a new frontend build. quadcore i5 2.8 or dual core i3 3.1?
[19:48:49] [R]: well it depends on what you want to do
[19:48:51] [R]: but i5 of course
[19:49:14] LTHorn: well my goal is to have something with a very snappy ui
[19:49:35] LTHorn: and i hate having to wait for channel changes. though i know that will be more reliant on the backend
[19:49:52] [R]: yeah, either of those processors will accomplish that
[19:49:56] wagnerrp: channel change speed has nothing to do with how fast your CPU is
[19:50:05] LTHorn: well the difference in price is only 50 bucks
[19:50:13] [R]: always to overpower it then unjderpower it
[19:50:16] [R]: thats what i always say
[19:50:17] LTHorn: true
[19:50:20] [R]: always better*
[19:50:39] LTHorn: i5 it is then. hope a 300 watt psu will be enough
[19:50:42] LTHorn: should be
[19:50:51] wagnerrp: 300W for a frontend is overkill
[19:51:00] wagnerrp: especially if youre using the graphics integrated on that i5
[19:51:31] wagnerrp: under full load, between the CPU, integrated GPU, memory, and assorted other system bits
[19:51:36] wagnerrp: youre not likely to break 100W
[19:51:45] wagnerrp: especially if you have no disk drive and are doing network boot
[19:52:01] LTHorn: I was going to have a ssd in it
[19:52:08] LTHorn: and it will have a bluray player
[19:52:56] wagnerrp: would be better off putting that SSD on your backend and storing your database one it
[19:53:19] wagnerrp: and if sufficiently large, you could run both systems off that SSD as well
[19:53:37] wagnerrp: (again using network boot)
[19:53:49] LTHorn: i've never messed with network boot before
[19:54:02] wagnerrp: as for a bluray player, you dont intent to rip all those disc and stream the m2ts over the network?
[19:54:33] LTHorn: no, but i do plan on playing blurays from the frontend right there
[19:54:52] wagnerrp: better to just get a standalone player if that's your goal
[19:54:57] LTHorn: sometime down the road that is. I'm not going to be getting the bluray player right away
[19:55:08] LTHorn: i like having everything integrated
[19:55:45] wagnerrp: do understand the limitations of bluray playback in mythtv
[19:55:57] wagnerrp: specifically, that you cannot do any BD+ content
[19:56:23] LTHorn: i know
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[20:31:20] DeviceZer0: hello all. Anyone have any ideas why sometimes when a commercial comes on or if I skip forwards/backwards mythtv looses sounds and plays(very loudly) static?
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[23:55:39] k-man: DeviceZer0, that seems to ring a bell with me – do you use pulse audio?
[23:55:57] k-man: DeviceZer0, which version of mythtv?
[23:56:36] BLZbubba: i added a new backend with a tuner – it has the sg mounted and connects to the DB & main BE just fine; but the tuner doesn't show up on the main backend
[23:57:08] BLZbubba: is there something i have to do to register it? the last tuner-only backend I added went in without having to do that
[23:57:26] [R]: in mythtv-setup you have to set the ip of the master and the ip of itself
[23:57:43] wagnerrp: BLZbubba: have you restarted your master backend since adding the slave backend and tuner?

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