| Wednesday, February 29th, 2012, 00:12 UTC | ||
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| [00:20:25] | ponyofdeath: | hi, wondering what ffmpeg needs to be compiled with to support mythtv nuv files |
| [00:21:21] | ponyofdeath: | 3dnow 3dnowext X aac alsa bzip2 encode faac hardcoded-tables mmx mmxext mp3 network pic qt-faststart rtmp ssse3 theora threads truetype vorbis vpx x264 xvid zlib (-altivec) -amr -avx -bindist (-celt) -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dirac -doc -frei0r -gsm -ieee1394 -jack -jpeg2k -oss -schroedinger -sdl -speex -static-libs -test -v4l -vaapi -vdpau is what i have |
| [00:22:02] | wagnerrp: | if that doesnt do it, then lkely something not included in the absurd amount of use flags |
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| [00:44:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | is there a way i can feed a (please, don't laugh) vcr into myth to record vhs -> dvd format |
| [00:45:10] | wagnerrp: | these are home videos? |
| [00:45:39] | Hydr0p0nX: | mostly |
| [00:45:49] | Hydr0p0nX: | a few old movies that are due for format shifting |
| [00:45:54] | wagnerrp: | what tuner cards do you have? |
| [00:46:04] | Hydr0p0nX: | hvr1600 |
| [00:46:09] | wagnerrp: | old movies on VHS are not worth format shifting |
| [00:46:22] | wagnerrp: | if theyre worth keeping, theyre worth the $5 to pick them up on DVD |
| [00:46:49] | wagnerrp: | plug the svideo output of your VCR into the svideo input on your hvr-1600 |
| [00:46:58] | wagnerrp: | use v4l2-ctl to set the proper input |
| [00:47:13] | wagnerrp: | run 'cat /dev/vide0 > some_file.mpg', and hit 'play' on the vcr |
| [00:47:26] | wagnerrp: | when its done, terminate both |
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| [00:51:18] | drac_boy: | hi |
| [00:55:47] | drac_boy: | just had to ask but any particular preference on the filesystem used for frequent media file changes? |
| [01:10:44] | Hydr0p0nX: | i use ext4 but i'm sure there's a better option |
| [01:11:14] | wagnerrp: | fat32 yo! |
| [01:13:24] | lucas^: | I've heard xfs is good for handling large files |
| [01:14:40] | _abbenormal: | lol wagnerrp |
| [01:15:59] | drac_boy: | was thinking of ext4 too so hm guess that settles it |
| [01:16:09] | drac_boy: | didn't xfs have no file date creation tho? |
| [01:16:38] | wagnerrp: | if thats true, why would that be a problem? |
| [01:16:57] | lucas^: | I'm using btrfs to see if it's any better mostly |
| [01:17:12] | lucas^: | a few transcodes on my ext4 fs and every file copy operation slowed the system to a crawl |
| [01:17:26] | lucas^: | probably just an old drive tbh |
| [01:17:57] | wagnerrp: | a single partition holding a few hundred large files is a waste of btrfs |
| [01:18:12] | wagnerrp: | use it on your OS disk if you think it stable enough |
| [01:18:31] | Hydr0p0nX: | I have my video file system mounted as a raid-0 for the time being |
| [01:18:37] | wagnerrp: | use it on your recordings only if you want to keep things simple by only using a single filesystem type on your system |
| [01:19:00] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'll be ordering a new 2tb soon and converting to a raid 5 setup |
| [01:19:33] | wagnerrp: | better to do a pair of independent RAID1s if you care for redundancy |
| [01:20:02] | wagnerrp: | or a scratch disk for recording, and a job that moves recordings over to the RAID5 array |
| [01:21:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | i may end up moving to raid1 + raid0 |
| [01:21:37] | wagnerrp: | thats still no good |
| [01:21:52] | wagnerrp: | since you still have all four drives seeking in sync |
| [01:22:04] | wagnerrp: | its not as bad as RAID5 |
| [01:22:19] | wagnerrp: | but its still lower write IO than two indpendent drives |
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| [02:17:46] | Jester86-MobileO: | hey guys.. anyone have good luck getting their HDPVR to work as an IR blaster? |
| [02:18:22] | Jester86-MobileO: | I have been using my window media center transceiver but it recently seems to have stopped working properly |
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| [04:21:11] | Beirdo: | ah, the after-work nap rules. |
| [04:22:55] | ertyu-m: | you'll just have to perfect the at-work nap |
| [04:23:12] | Beirdo: | hehe, don't tempt me |
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| [04:46:56] | Beirdo: | /win 16 |
| [04:52:47] | sphery: | /lose 17 |
| [04:58:12] | clever: | lol, i actualy have #mythtv at 16 and #mythtv-users at 17! |
| [04:58:26] | clever: | though i just alt+y and alt+u, no need for /win |
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| [05:19:18] | knightr: | wagnerrp, I have to go to sleep now but I just wanted to let you know that Nick is OK with us using his translation status stuff with our buildbots... I'll give you further details about this tomorrow or overmorrow... |
| [05:19:53] | wagnerrp: | great, thanks |
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| [06:03:56] | Beirdo: | knightr: cool. let me know what we need to setup for the buildbot to support that |
| [06:04:33] | Beirdo: | and was he looking to provide a slave to run it, or should we just put it on one of the current ones? |
| [06:05:21] | Beirdo: | and how often would we want to run it, etc. |
| [06:06:26] | wagnerrp: | right now, it seems he just runs it every few days on a whim |
| [06:06:59] | wagnerrp: | i suspect how frequently it gets run would really depend on how long it takes each time |
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| [08:48:37] | AndyCap: | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/02/r . . . launches.ars Heh, people are obsessed with this thing |
| [09:00:04] | justinh: | AndyCap: yeah it was even featured on our generic radio news this morning |
| [09:00:23] | justinh: | they're hailing it as the great panacea to all our country's lack of IT skills :-\ |
| [09:01:24] | justinh: | if anything can be hacked & fudged to do other things, people of all ages are already doing it. people forget that the vast majority of 8-bit home computer users only ever played games |
| [09:02:24] | justinh: | unless their parents were the kind who bought their kid some crappy Tandy CoCo, for whom games were incredibly scarce – resulting in me.. er their kid resorting to learn to program it |
| [09:02:39] | wagnerrp: | to be fair, this thing is only about as powerful as those 8-bit copmuters of yore |
| [09:03:21] | justinh: | I'm tempted to pick up a few. it'll make a nice easy whole house audio client :-) |
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| [09:03:31] | justinh: | not forgetting *cheap* |
| [09:04:47] | wagnerrp: | i dont actually understand why they're so cheap, compared to even things like arduinos |
| [09:05:07] | wagnerrp: | are they actually building them in that much higher volume? |
| [09:05:56] | justinh: | that's their plan |
| [09:06:02] | justinh: | and now.. the ironing! |
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| [09:53:35] | justinh: | gah. rasberry pi fanboys have taken the Farnell website down now too |
| [09:57:24] | lucas^: | from what I've heard rpi is being managed worse than OLPC in its early days |
| [09:59:54] | lucas^: | for the record, mine was a Tandy TL/2, and a third-grade TAG BASIC class |
| [10:00:05] | lucas^: | blew my fragile eggshell mind |
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| [10:25:01] | justinh: | well, it'd be tricky to satisfy the demand they've created. Wouldn't imagine them being able to stick their neck out & have a few hundred thousand units ready to go in one batch |
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| [10:53:23] | drac_boy: | hi |
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| [10:59:17] | justinh: | woo. no recordings til 5pm today |
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| [11:00:57] | drac_boy: | heh |
| [11:01:05] | drac_boy: | why? |
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| [11:05:04] | justinh: | so I can try mysql on a filesystem without barriers |
| [11:05:20] | drac_boy: | ah |
| [11:05:21] | justinh: | arghhh. Bloody ubuntu |
| [11:05:32] | justinh: | sudo service mysql start... waiting... waiting... waiting |
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| [11:07:19] | justinh: | and still waiting |
| [11:14:14] | drac_boy: | justinh poor you, good luck with doing what you were meaning to want to do ok? |
| [11:14:16] | drac_boy: | :-s |
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| [11:20:30] | justinh: | ARGHH. How hard should it be do duplicate the data dir, configure mysql to use a different dir & start it up again? |
| [11:26:41] | justinh: | this stupid thing isn't even logging |
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| [11:41:11] | ** justinh hits mysql over the head with a lead pipe. repeatedly ** | |
| [11:41:25] | peitolm: | if you stop it, is it still running |
| [11:41:38] | peitolm: | (which isn't as crazy as it sounds, honst) |
| [11:42:17] | justinh: | no. ps isn't listing it |
| [11:42:49] | peitolm: | how are you starting it? which config file is it loading? |
| [11:43:08] | peitolm: | does it log if you start it manually and specify the config file |
| [11:43:44] | justinh: | not sure I can start it manually |
| [11:43:45] | drac_boy: | heh heh |
| [11:45:01] | justinh: | meh. it's just not gonna work with a different data dir |
| [11:45:31] | justinh: | mind, it's tricky even with the original dir |
| [11:48:01] | lucas^: | alright what the hell |
| [11:48:56] | lucas^: | I spent all morning manually scanning for channels, looking up each channel icon, setting up MySQL, configuring mythfrontend to use Fedora-specific frameworks, all that nonsense |
| [11:49:09] | lucas^: | ran mythfilldatabase twice – took around 6–8 hrs each time |
| [11:49:14] | lucas^: | still no channel listings |
| [11:50:25] | ** peitolm points justinh at safe_mysqld ** | |
| [11:51:07] | justinh: | ahh |
| [11:51:20] | ** justinh pops out ** | |
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| [12:12:24] | justinh: | Feb 29 12:12:19 roger mysqld: 120229 12:12:19 [Warning] Can't create test file /mysql/mysql/roger.lower-test |
| [12:12:28] | justinh: | grr |
| [12:19:00] | justinh: | WTH is ubuntu doing to mysql? |
| [12:19:53] | justinh: | gah. it just keeps stopping & respawning |
| [12:20:32] | justinh: | all I did was rsync the old data dir to the new one, change my.cnf to reflect the new dir, start it up... |
| [12:20:40] | justinh: | the permissions should be ok |
| [12:22:52] | peitolm: | is there some kind of keepalive or something |
| [12:23:34] | peitolm: | is my.cnf being over-ridden on the commandline by ubuntu? |
| [12:24:12] | justinh: | probably. they're always doing retarded stuff like that :-\ |
| [12:24:28] | justinh: | I HATE UBUNTU |
| [12:29:08] | justinh: | arghhh RESPAWN is in the upstart config |
| [12:29:15] | justinh: | how is that ANY help? |
| [12:33:03] | justinh: | aha! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=831147 |
| [12:33:15] | justinh: | ******* **** **** **** ********** !!! |
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| [12:38:10] | justinh: | well, no barriers, and mythtv is still taking a fricking age to show a schedule change :-( |
| [12:40:12] | justinh: | so it's not that! |
| [12:40:35] | lucas^: | old harddrive? |
| [12:40:44] | lucas^: | simplest explanation and all that |
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| [12:41:46] | wagnerrp: | it tapping out your schedule changes in more code, apparently |
| [12:41:53] | wagnerrp: | *morse |
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| [12:45:26] | justinh: | lucas^: no, not an old HDD |
| [12:46:06] | justinh: | I have a spare unused disk in my backend. formatted ext3, mounted with barriers=0, rsynced the db data dir, started mysql (eventually) with the new dir... |
| [12:46:09] | justinh: | and pfft |
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| [13:02:03] | justinh: | hang on, isn't it just that mythfrontend is only polling the backend? |
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| [13:06:12] | justinh: | hmmm. "scheduler: Scheduled items: Scheduled 439 items in 11.0 = 0.01 match + 10.98 place" |
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| [13:08:22] | justinh: | gah. it was never 30 secs apparently. just felt like 30s |
| [13:09:42] | justinh: | 143 rows in the record table.. hmm |
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| [13:41:46] | justinh: | how can 388 items be taking 10+ secs to schedule? |
| [13:41:59] | peitolm: | it's a nasty problem |
| [13:42:12] | peitolm: | how dense are your programs, and how many tuners do you have? |
| [13:42:22] | justinh: | 3 tuners, split 5 ways |
| [13:42:29] | justinh: | ahh |
| [13:42:35] | justinh: | that might be a factor |
| [13:42:36] | peitolm: | i think you can help things along by being more specific with your schedules |
| [13:42:59] | justinh: | like "this channel" etc? |
| [13:44:33] | peitolm: | Scheduled 655 items in 1.3 = 0.05 match + 1.26 place <-- is my current scheduling, with 2 sources, 2 tuners, (and some overlap of channels) |
| [13:45:01] | justinh: | mysql seems slow on this box. always has since I updated distros |
| [13:45:05] | peitolm: | there's probably some maths you could do to work out how complex a problem the scheduling is for your system, but i'm not sure where to start |
| [13:45:27] | peitolm: | which storage engine? |
| [13:45:41] | justinh: | I've already gone through & simplified as many of my schedules as possible |
| [13:45:48] | justinh: | there were some funky custom rules in there |
| [13:45:52] | justinh: | hmm I dunno |
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| [13:46:17] | ** peitolm wonders if 3 tuners split 5 ways = 15 tuners to the scheduler ** | |
| [13:46:28] | justinh: | peitolm: I think so |
| [13:46:35] | peitolm: | i've not looked into the scheduler side, so.. |
| [13:47:32] | peitolm: | but i'd assume, that a schedule that says 'record a show X in this time slot on this channel' is easier to schedule than 'record 1 showing of X at any time on any channel', |
| [13:47:35] | justinh: | whoah. my mythconverg tables seem to be a mixture of myisam & innodb |
| [13:47:39] | peitolm: | but i could be wrong |
| [13:48:05] | peitolm: | have you done a myisam check recently? |
| [13:48:19] | justinh: | the majority seem to be innodb though |
| [13:48:30] | justinh: | no myisam |
| [13:49:03] | peitolm: | "my mythconverg tables seem to be a mixture of myisam & innodb" |
| [13:49:58] | justinh: | yeah some crufty tables left over from plugins I no longer use apparently |
| [13:50:13] | peitolm: | ah |
| [13:56:06] | justinh: | meh, changed the number of max recordings per card down to 3 & it's still taking around 10 secs |
| [13:59:05] | justinh: | hmm. it's definitely increasing the time taken to reschedule when I increase it though |
| [13:59:14] | justinh: | wonder how little I could get away with |
| [14:00:36] | ** peitolm wonders if there's a way to defer schedule processing ** | |
| [14:00:56] | justinh: | wonder if there's a way to just simplify it |
| [14:01:23] | justinh: | I don't even need more than half the options there are |
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| [15:14:28] | Jordack: | well lets see if i can get 25 to build today. :) |
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| [15:44:54] | peitolm: | did i see somewhere a rumour about airplay support in mythtv? |
| [15:46:31] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [15:46:39] | wagnerrp: | in a limited fashion |
| [15:46:49] | wagnerrp: | it should work, but there is no UI |
| [15:46:58] | wagnerrp: | you just suddenly start playing audio/video |
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| [15:48:31] | peitolm: | any docs on enabling it? |
| [15:48:35] | Guest26645: | anyone here? |
| [15:48:56] | Guest26645: | kjfgndflkg |
| [15:49:01] | seeker: | Audio is automatically enabled in trunk |
| [15:49:05] | Guest26645: | anyone good with derivatives |
| [15:49:19] | Guest26645: | fuck this shit |
| [15:49:23] | Guest26645: | you guys are gay |
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| [15:49:35] | seeker: | Video required an environment variable set |
| [15:50:21] | peitolm: | hmm, any idea when it was enabled in trunk, i don't recall seeing it as a audio target wen i was setting up my airport express the other day |
| [15:50:30] | seeker: | Both require an RSA key placed in a file to communicate with ios devices |
| [15:51:16] | seeker: | Looking at your frontend logs on startup should tell you where it expects the key |
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| [15:51:50] | peitolm: | o.k. i will look tonight |
| [15:51:52] | drac_boy: | hi |
| [15:52:05] | justinh: | heh. I hadn't realised idiots still used that word as an insult |
| [15:52:31] | seeker: | Can't remember what path I set for the key in the code ATM. Possibly ~/.mythtv/RAOP.rsa |
| [15:52:37] | peitolm: | what's the required variablwe for video |
| [15:52:41] | seeker: | Something like that |
| [15:52:52] | ** peitolm looks on the wiki for RAOP ** | |
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| [15:53:57] | peitolm: | hmm |
| [15:54:04] | drac_boy: | just had to wonder but any of you from north america ever tried any of these digital tv converter boxes? |
| [15:54:06] | seeker: | export MYTHTV_AIRPLAY=1 mythfrontend |
| [15:54:17] | seeker: | Err, without the export at the front |
| [15:54:33] | seeker: | Video playback is still buggy though |
| [15:55:32] | seeker: | Hence why the environment variable needs to be set, because it isn't functional enough to be enabled by default (I think so anyway) |
| [15:56:06] | seeker: | But the logs will tell you where it expects the key |
| [15:56:14] | seeker: | And google can tell you the key |
| [15:56:23] | drac_boy: | I was just wondering if its just the crappy two models I've only seen or are these converter boxes really slow to accept commands? hit the button on remote....one second....sometimes two....then it finally changes channel |
| [15:56:31] | wagnerrp: | did he actually come here for help with grade school math? |
| [15:56:52] | seeker: | wagnerrp: Guess so |
| [15:56:58] | drac_boy: | just had to wonder in term of ir blaster-ing them with a htpc box |
| [15:57:25] | ** peitolm wonders what the private key in the source is used for ** | |
| [15:58:28] | wagnerrp: | peitolm: apple restricts airplay to only being usable on apple hardware |
| [15:58:42] | wagnerrp: | or other licensed 3rd party manufacturers |
| [15:59:12] | wagnerrp: | the private key added, and subsequently removed to be supplied by the user in their .mythtv directory |
| [15:59:12] | seeker: | peitolm: There isn't a key in the source any longer |
| [15:59:29] | peitolm: | o.k. |
| [15:59:35] | wagnerrp: | identifies mythtv as an airport express |
| [15:59:56] | peitolm: | right, so that key _should_ only work for audio |
| [16:00:11] | peitolm: | sounds like a discussion not to be having |
| [16:00:29] | seeker: | The key works for audio and video |
| [16:00:54] | seeker: | Well, actually, I don't think video uses the same auth methods |
| [16:01:01] | peitolm: | someone missed that trick :) |
| [16:01:24] | peitolm: | i just wondered, i'll probably pickup an apple TV regardless |
| [16:01:39] | wagnerrp: | there are rumors of a new model coming out |
| [16:01:45] | wagnerrp: | you may want to hold off a bit |
| [16:01:52] | peitolm: | I heard, and i am :) |
| [16:02:08] | peitolm: | t'wfe seems more bothered about it than i am |
| [16:04:51] | seeker: | Hmm, this next announcement will likely be an iPad though |
| [16:05:04] | seeker: | Not sure if they'll do iPad and tv at the same time |
| [16:05:24] | peitolm: | who knows |
| [16:05:40] | peitolm: | and I have other things to sort first |
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| [16:13:05] | ** drac_boy is kinda so-so on the current appletv compared to previous generation ** | |
| [16:21:37] | peitolm: | it might not be as hackable, but it's nicely compact |
| [16:22:00] | drac_boy: | peitolm perhaps, it just that the original one was more useable with a wider range of tvs so yeah..I dunno |
| [16:22:04] | drac_boy: | maybe best to not ask me :) |
| [16:22:22] | seeker: | I just wish there were better open drivers for the graphics chips they use |
| [16:24:11] | ** peitolm uses hdmi now, so that's not a concern for him ** | |
| [16:24:43] | drac_boy: | peitolm well I would had not cared if it had displayport but...hdmi-only is a bit hard to swallow especially the cost of adapter boxes |
| [16:24:57] | drac_boy: | lets not argue too much tho ok? I did said it was maybe best to not ask me |
| [16:25:45] | peitolm: | hdmi -> dvi no use? |
| [16:26:14] | drac_boy: | peitolm if its dvi-i then sure its some use |
| [16:26:46] | peitolm: | I forget, is I the digital only one? |
| [16:27:53] | drac_boy: | no, dvi-d |
| [16:27:55] | drac_boy: | :) |
| [16:28:28] | peitolm: | probably only dvi-d only then |
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| [16:32:11] | drac_boy: | peitolm mm well wide support here would had been dvi-i and component. I can't do anything about that btw |
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| [16:34:42] | rhpot1991: | thoughts on upgrading from http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125273 |
| [16:34:50] | rhpot1991: | to: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121448 |
| [16:38:36] | wagnerrp: | the 430 will give you the improved Rev.C scalers, and HD audio bitstreaming |
| [16:38:47] | wagnerrp: | but i think the 9600 is actually a more powerful card |
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| [16:39:09] | drac_boy: | peitolm also I know it probably only affect a small percent of people but how do you drop hdmi into a dedicated audio amp when these only have analog or coaxial/toslink inputs anyway? |
| [16:39:48] | wagnerrp: | use a splitter |
| [16:39:58] | wagnerrp: | or perhaps have your TV act as a splitter |
| [16:39:59] | rhpot1991: | wagnerrp: 7.1 sound is my biggest get I think |
| [16:40:46] | rhpot1991: | clock speed and # of stream processors is higher on the 430, 9600 has faster memory |
| [16:41:44] | peitolm: | drac_boy: no idea, but the ATV has toslink as well |
| [16:42:09] | peitolm: | or as wagnerrp says, take the audio out from the TV |
| [16:42:42] | drac_boy: | peitolm hmm well..is my limited experience wrong or can you mute a tv without muting the non-speaker audio output as well? |
| [16:42:43] | wagnerrp: | rhpot1991: the 9600 should have more processors as well |
| [16:42:55] | wagnerrp: | or at least more of a certain type that matter for VDPAU |
| [16:43:18] | wagnerrp: | ive heard people claim to have troubles with the advanced 2x deint at 1080i on the 430 and 520 |
| [16:43:31] | wagnerrp: | while those work fine on the 220 and 9600 |
| [16:43:40] | rhpot1991: | wagnerrp: according to the specs 64 for the 9600 vs 96 in the 430 |
| [16:43:47] | wagnerrp: | but ask around yourself, im still using an 8200 and 8400 |
| [16:43:51] | rhpot1991: | hmmm that scares me then |
| [16:44:01] | rhpot1991: | I'm happy with my 9600 other than no 7.1 sounds |
| [16:44:17] | peitolm: | drac_boy: TV dependant |
| [16:44:22] | wagnerrp: | people rave about advanced 2x, but meh... |
| [16:44:35] | wagnerrp: | ive never actually seen it to know what im missing i guess |
| [16:44:35] | rhpot1991: | wiki claims it can do advanced 2x |
| [16:45:26] | drac_boy: | peitolm ok thanks, guess I'll have to try experience some more tv models then |
| [16:46:17] | wagnerrp: | the 430 is 96:16:4, while the 9600 is 64:32:16... so more vertex shaders, less geometry and pixel shaders |
| [16:46:27] | drac_boy: | anyway brb for a moment..I need to find what matches what in this dvb frontend list for the kernel |
| [16:46:46] | rhpot1991: | wagnerrp: and which ones are important for vdpau? |
| [16:47:04] | lucas^: | oh, I'll bet any money that mythfilldatabase requires write access to the storage directory |
| [16:47:07] | lucas^: | no wonder |
| [16:47:17] | wagnerrp: | rhpot1991: honestly, i have no idea |
| [16:47:56] | wagnerrp: | likely no one outside nvidia does, leading these to be just uninformed rumblings on the mailing list |
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| [17:58:12] | skd5aner: | wow – first time for everything – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/505143 |
| [17:58:41] | wagnerrp: | ? |
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| [17:59:05] | wagnerrp: | oh, the guy called up his cableco and got them to shift to copy-freely? |
| [17:59:19] | wagnerrp: | yeah, someone else claimed to do that with charter several months back |
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| [17:59:52] | wagnerrp: | it seems their official corporate stance is the same as comcast/verizon |
| [18:00:11] | wagnerrp: | they just arent proactively changing their systems to behave that way |
| [18:01:22] | skd5aner: | Yea – but often times the people who even are capable of understanding the problems are the ones you can never get in touch with |
| [18:01:36] | skd5aner: | or, they pawn it off a corporate thing versus a head-end problem |
| [18:01:57] | skd5aner: | but usually, they either play ignorant or /are/ ignorant... usually the latter |
| [18:02:34] | ** skd5aner remembers the dozen or so futile conversations he had 4 years ago with TWC about firewire ** | |
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| [18:03:05] | skd5aner: | "fireport"? "what's on fire?" "you mean HDMI?" |
| [18:04:23] | ThisNewGuy: | hey all – I'm using the python bindings and I have some programs that won't be recorded because of a current recording (Program.rsCurrentRecording) – is there any way to get a reference to that current recording object? |
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| [18:05:09] | wagnerrp: | what version of mythtv? |
| [18:05:14] | ThisNewGuy: | master |
| [18:05:20] | skd5aner: | commander |
| [18:05:39] | ** wagnerrp heads to a different part of the world ** | |
| [18:06:01] | ThisNewGuy: | er – latest from git |
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| [18:07:56] | wagnerrp: | isnt rsCurrentRecording the tag for the actual recording that is happening right now? |
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| [18:10:38] | wagnerrp: | sphery: do you recall what all those things mean off hand? |
| [18:10:50] | ThisNewGuy: | Could be – it's also what myth.getPendingRecordings() returns for recordings that won't be recorded because one already exists |
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| [18:11:22] | wagnerrp: | oh, rsCurrentRecording is for something that wont record because you have an existing recording stored on your system |
| [18:11:34] | ThisNewGuy: | yup |
| [18:11:37] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to rsPreviousRecording is when youve recorded it in the past, and since deleted it |
| [18:12:21] | ThisNewGuy: | makes sense – do you know any way to get the Program object for the recording that caused it to fail? |
| [18:12:42] | wagnerrp: | theres a somewhat indirect route you can take |
| [18:13:08] | wagnerrp: | if the existing program has a 'programid' set |
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| [18:13:22] | wagnerrp: | use MythDB().searchRecorded(programid=otherprog.programid) |
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| [18:13:45] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, MythDB().searchRecorded(title=otherprog.title, subtitle=otherprog.subtitle) |
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| [18:14:15] | ThisNewGuy: | yeah – I was hoping to avoid replicating the logic myth does to do the matching but that will work – thanks! |
| [18:15:23] | wagnerrp: | even mythtv doesnt really have that logic |
| [18:15:32] | wagnerrp: | it only exists within a massive SQL query |
| [18:15:47] | Jordack: | anyone know the secert to building 24/fixes rpms? I get "sed: can't read libs/libmythbase/storagegroup.cpp: No such file or directory" when using /packaging/rpms/build.. |
| [18:16:09] | ThisNewGuy: | k – thanks wagnerrp! |
| [18:16:47] | wagnerrp: | Jordack: well first, use the correct build script |
| [18:17:09] | wagnerrp: | the script you have seems to be tinkering with libs/libmythbase/storagegroup.cpp, which didnt exist until 0.25 |
| [18:17:15] | wagnerrp: | there is no such file in 0.24 |
| [18:17:18] | Jordack: | guess that may help. I though all i had to do wasn update hte one that was there. |
| [18:20:53] | Jordack: | not to sound like a totel idiot. I got the 24 stripct by "git clone -b fixes/0.24 git://github.com/MythTV/packaging.git" but i get an error "/root/mythtv/packaging/rpm/mythtv-themes does not exist" thoughts? |
| [18:21:34] | wagnerrp: | thats... odd... |
| [18:22:02] | Jordack: | i get the spec file but no themes directory |
| [18:22:36] | wagnerrp: | well you shouldnt be bothering with theme packages anyway |
| [18:22:44] | wagnerrp: | those all get downloaded through the theme chooser now |
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| [18:25:38] | Jordack: | well removed themes from the sanity check and let see what happens |
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| [18:34:42] | Jordack: | now i get + find contrib/ -type f -exec chmod -x '{}' ';' ||| find: `contrib/': No such file or directory Looking like building fixes may not be a go for me |
| [18:35:54] | wagnerrp: | contrib does exist in both fixes/0.24 and master |
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| [18:40:59] | Jordack: | this is what i get http://pastebin.com/KrvJUAvK. i see the contrib folder in '/root/rpmbuild/BUILD/mythtv-0.24/mythtv-0.24/mythtv/" wonder if its cuase i didnt download mythweb |
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| [18:44:45] | Jordack: | nope that didnt fix it. guess i got to do some digging |
| [18:47:17] | wizbit: | .25 will be released anytime soon!? |
| [18:47:28] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [18:47:30] | wizbit: | i will not install until .25.1 is released |
| [18:47:37] | wizbit: | oh ok |
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| [18:47:58] | wizbit: | i probably wont notice any difference anyhow |
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| [19:20:19] | Jordack: | omg why wont they just let me hire an astrix programmer and drop this whole bid process crap. this "Its coming in the next revision" shit is annoying |
| [19:20:24] | Jordack: | opps wrong channel |
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| [19:25:56] | Beirdo: | I hate this Unity crapola |
| [19:26:10] | CyberKnet: | Jordack: maybe they see the light and are waiting for you to adopt Freeswitch. :D |
| [19:26:14] | Beirdo: | and the HUD. PUKE |
| [19:28:00] | CyberKnet: | Need a cheap oil change? Sears is doing 14.99 oil changes right now. You have to trust Sears with your car, so you know ... you get what you pay for... |
| [19:28:01] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [19:28:19] | Jordack: | lol |
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| [19:30:49] | Jordack: | well it looks like the 24/fixes build scrpt is sorta messed up. Guess ill try my luck with 25 again this weekend, since i got it to build finally (damn you deppendancies) Now off to try adn explain what jitter is to non tech people so they dont try to send 80 phone lines through a comcast cable modem |
| [19:31:37] | CyberKnet: | jordack: Sounds like enough bandwidth there... :D |
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| [19:35:32] | justinh: | Beirdo: ubuntu is really rubbing me up the wrong way lately |
| [19:35:58] | Beirdo: | yeah, but at least it's WORKING |
| [19:36:17] | Beirdo: | I had Debian Wheezy/Sid on my workstation, and sudo won't work anymore |
| [19:36:25] | Beirdo: | so... screw it |
| [19:36:27] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:37:02] | Beirdo: | this new box will be used to run VMs as needed, so even if I don't like the base OS too much, I should be able to live |
| [19:37:15] | Jordack: | just switch to fedora so that you have to do a revision upgrade every 6 months |
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| [19:37:48] | skd5aner: | how is that different from ubuntu? |
| [19:38:16] | ** justinh doesn't generally dist upgrade ** | |
| [19:38:22] | ** justinh knows what a PITA that can be ** | |
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| [19:38:27] | Jordack: | i dont know, :) always been a redhat man |
| [19:38:47] | skd5aner: | Jordack: Ubuntu has strict 6 month release cycles – April and October |
| [19:39:13] | skd5aner: | with a long term release (lts) every 8'th(?) release ? |
| [19:39:38] | CyberKnet: | I feel behind way too quickly when I ran Fedora... a year would go by and all of a sudden I would see I was no longer getting mythtv updates because I was more than 3 releases of the OS behind. |
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| [19:39:44] | CyberKnet: | s/feel/fell/ |
| [19:39:56] | skd5aner: | justinh: innevitably... dist-upgrade always breaks at least 1 thing for me, but the issues are usually easy enough to resolve |
| [19:40:02] | Jordack: | thats my issue with fedora as well. |
| [19:40:21] | skd5aner: | justinh: actually, dist-upgrade usually never breaks anything... I mean a full version upgrade |
| [19:40:36] | Jordack: | and it always seems that thier "upgrade path" would always cuase more issues than format and reinstall |
| [19:40:49] | CyberKnet: | atrpms was nice, and I can't fault anyone for not wanting to build packages for so many releases ... but it was too much for me to be doing the equivalent of a dist-upgrade every 3–4 months just so that I could keep getting packages. |
| [19:41:07] | skd5aner: | dist-upgrade will always break my nvidia drivers, but that's to be expected since I compile against the headers of a particular release of the kernel and dist-upgrade upgrades the kernel |
| [19:41:10] | CyberKnet: | Jordack: For me it was always video drivers breaking with the dist-upgrade... I used the binary nvidia |
| [19:41:13] | CyberKnet: | exactly!!! |
| [19:41:13] | skd5aner: | s/upgrade/updates |
| [19:41:47] | CyberKnet: | I have not had issues with Ubuntu and dist-upgrade breaking nvidia binary drivers. |
| [19:42:24] | skd5aner: | apt-get update && apt-get dist-ugprade && apt-get install linux-headers-blah blah blah && sh nvidia-installer-v####.sh – done |
| [19:42:43] | justinh: | I just never update :-) |
| [19:42:54] | justinh: | mythtv gets a rejig every now & again but beyond that, nada |
| [19:42:55] | Jordack: | my main server is still on fc15 so maybe when 17 comes out ill give the upgrade a try again |
| [19:42:59] | CyberKnet: | justinh: an itchy upgrade finger is a horrible disease to have... |
| [19:43:00] | CyberKnet: | :D |
| [19:43:06] | skd5aner: | justinh: no wonder it was so easy for me to root your box |
| [19:43:10] | skd5aner: | I mean... er |
| [19:43:12] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [19:43:21] | CyberKnet: | Jordack: wow. I haven't used Fedora since FC6 maybe... |
| [19:43:49] | justinh: | skd5aner: go on, have a go :-P |
| [19:44:17] | Jordack: | i run mostly CentOS and RH servers at work so i stick with that at home. |
| [19:44:29] | skd5aner: | justinh: I'll just setup a cronjob to constantly run mythbackend --resched ;) |
| [19:44:36] | CyberKnet: | heh |
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| [19:46:33] | ThisNewGuy: | hey all – when I use mythtranscode and resize I get a green line at the bottom of the new file – any ideas – is it related to: "Found video height of 1088. This is unusual and more than likely the video is actually 1080 so mythtranscode will treat it as such." |
| [19:47:07] | [R]: | yes, thats why |
| [19:47:22] | [R]: | you have an hdpvr? |
| [19:49:04] | CyberKnet: | Anyone seen a case like some of those Dell Inspiron 620s towers, or the HP Pavilion Slimline s5z series? I'd like to consider upgrading my desktop to something small-ish. |
| [19:49:46] | justinh: | skd5aner: ooo cruel |
| [19:50:09] | ThisNewGuy: | [R] – correct |
| [19:50:14] | justinh: | I wish I knew WTH was up with this stupid mysql setup |
| [19:50:14] | ThisNewGuy: | is there any way to resolve this? |
| [19:50:23] | [R]: | yeah, the green line was there before you did the transcode |
| [19:51:00] | ThisNewGuy: | [R] – how come it doesn't show up when I play the file before but it does after? |
| [19:51:12] | [R]: | how are you playing it? |
| [19:51:27] | skd5aner: | some say the green line holds the answers to the greatest mysteries of the universe! |
| [19:51:36] | ThisNewGuy: | I tried mythfrontend and vlc |
| [19:51:46] | [R]: | and plyaing the original with vlc you dnot see the green line? |
| [19:52:42] | ThisNewGuy: | correct |
| [19:52:44] | Jordack: | CyberKnet I recently picked up one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . k=11-154-062 Dont htink it as as small but it fits nicely with my front tv. (just do not connect the hard drive light, bright as hell) |
| [19:53:04] | [R]: | and after you transcode it the green line shows up in vlc? |
| [19:53:05] | [R]: | thats odd |
| [19:53:20] | [R]: | there must be some sort of corrutipn that shows up at the bottom though |
| [19:53:22] | [R]: | it might not be green |
| [19:53:35] | CyberKnet: | Jordack: aaah. This is for a desktop... my tv case is a wooden nMediaPC one from NewEgg |
| [19:53:36] | ThisNewGuy: | maybe it's just way bigger because I went from 1920x1080 to 640x360? |
| [19:54:14] | [R]: | you might needt o crop it |
| [19:54:17] | [R]: | thats what i do |
| [19:54:25] | ThisNewGuy: | how do you do that? |
| [19:54:59] | [R]: | i've used ffmpeg |
| [19:55:31] | CyberKnet: | Jordack: although that is pretty slim., |
| [19:55:40] | CyberKnet: | Wish Antec made something like that. |
| [19:56:15] | ThisNewGuy: | Is there any way to do that with Recording Profiles in myth? |
| [19:56:38] | CyberKnet: | Best recording priorities possible: invest in more tuners :D |
| [19:56:54] | [R]: | don't think so |
| [19:56:59] | CyberKnet: | oh, you said profiles. my bad :D |
| [19:58:31] | ThisNewGuy: | k – thanks |
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| [20:07:20] | drac_boy: | hi |
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| [20:47:50] | drac_boy: | hm were any tuner cards ever pci 2.3 or not as much likely to be so? |
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| [20:48:54] | ThisNewGuy: | I can get an exit status of 139 when attempting to transcode a recording – can anyone help me figure out what's failing? I don't see any error messages in the logs |
| [20:51:35] | sphery: | ThisNewGuy: 139 = segfault (meaning that the video is likely bad and caused a problem in libav/ffmpeg code) |
| [20:52:45] | ThisNewGuy: | sphery – thanks! Is there anything I can do about it? |
| [20:52:48] | sphery: | any crash in libav/ffmpeg code won't be fixed in 0.24-fixes at this point, so you may want to consider testing on 0.25 (or just wait until 0.25 is out) |
| [20:53:03] | ThisNewGuy: | this is from the latest in git |
| [20:53:16] | sphery: | the unstable/development/master code? |
| [20:53:28] | peitolm: | wagnerrp: is there anything that i would need to do to enable RAOP with your ebuilds? |
| [20:53:34] | sphery: | if so, then you'd need to get a backtrace: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
| [20:54:21] | sphery: | peitolm: you need bonjour support (avahi and its libs and dev headers and such) |
| [20:55:13] | peitolm: | that probably what i'm missing |
| [20:57:56] | wagnerrp: | peitolm: add the 'raop' use flag |
| [20:58:07] | wagnerrp: | the ebuild *should* pull in all thats necessary |
| [20:58:17] | wagnerrp: | or at least everything that seems necessary to make it build |
| [20:59:27] | sphery: | ThisNewGuy: also, do you get stuff like this when playing the recording back in mythfrontend: http://pastebin.com/ifswK2sZ |
| [21:00:45] | ThisNewGuy: | lemme check |
| [21:02:38] | drac_boy: | btw while I was trying to sort out the multimedia options (pci 2.3 still gets me) I had to look up this 'linux media labs' thing and came to their website. anyone have any thought on this if it wasn't for the pricetag? http://www.linuxmedialabs.com/product_details.php?prodid=415 |
| [21:03:04] | peitolm: | wagnerrp: ah, i don;t have an raop use flag |
| [21:03:47] | ThisNewGuy: | sphery – I don't see anything like that |
| [21:06:19] | sphery: | just curious... I know we don't handle audio stream changes well in current mythtranscode |
| [21:06:49] | sphery: | (btw, you'd pretty much have to play through the whole thing to catch those messages) |
| [21:07:42] | sphery: | unless you get lucky and just happen to play through the right section... though often the changes occur at commercials, so you can increase the likelihood of finding them by playing through a show -> commercial transition |
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| [21:12:02] | peitolm: | wagnerrp: i don't see a raop flag |
| [21:13:31] | wagnerrp: | https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/mast . . . 3.ebuild#L25 |
| [21:14:20] | peitolm: | interesting |
| [21:14:40] | peitolm: | ah, it's trying to downgrade, *sigh* |
| [21:14:59] | peitolm: | missing digests for some reason |
| [21:15:11] | wagnerrp: | seriously? |
| [21:15:13] | wagnerrp: | ffs... |
| [21:15:37] | ThisNewGuy: | sphery – thanks – I'll try to get a backtrace |
| [21:16:12] | wagnerrp: | peitolm: im not seeing any uncommitted manifests on my end |
| [21:17:10] | peitolm: | let me see what i've done |
| [21:18:13] | peitolm: | i think i had to regen them previously, but i'm not sure why, i think it was because i wanted to update and probably did it wrong |
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| [21:21:59] | peitolm: | right, i now have raop |
| [21:22:16] | ** peitolm would prefer not upgrading, *goes off to think* ** | |
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| [21:40:43] | ThisNewGuy: | sphery – here's the backtrace: http://pastebin.com/d2hpqcKD |
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| [21:50:02] | justinh: | hmm iotop wasn't particularly illuminating |
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| [21:50:45] | justinh: | a couple of spikes due to mysql when the scheduler runs, but nothing long |
| [21:51:59] | drac_boy: | still having headaches from earlier on today justinh? |
| [21:52:39] | justinh: | not really headaches, just trying to determine WTH is going on with the scheduler query & why it's taking so long |
| [21:52:56] | justinh: | that & other biggish queries in general |
| [21:53:30] | drac_boy: | mm ok |
| [21:53:57] | frankster: | Im mapping some keys, anyone got any idea what MENUEPG is supposed to do? I expected it to bring up the EPG but this doesn't seem to be the case :) |
| [21:54:14] | justinh: | no, that's the EPG screen menu button I think |
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| [21:54:45] | frankster: | aha. thanks. |
| [21:54:47] | justinh: | all the key mappings are explained in mythfrontend's mapper util :) |
| [21:54:59] | frankster: | what's that? |
| [21:55:13] | justinh: | utils/setup > edit keys |
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| [21:55:47] | frankster: | the text that i get from the web settings config has more info than on the frontend i think, and the web settings says "TV Playback | MENUEPG | Menu EPG" |
| [21:55:56] | frankster: | which doesn't really explain ;) |
| [21:56:03] | justinh: | ah. well, YMMV using that |
| [21:56:24] | frankster: | well the frontend doesnt even have the description text! |
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| [21:56:49] | justinh: | the theme would have to support it I guess |
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| [21:57:11] | justinh: | hang on a sec |
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| [21:59:28] | justinh: | frankster: GUIDE would be the button to jump to the EPG from anywhere in mythtv |
| [22:00:45] | justinh: | I think they're all listed in the wiki somewhere |
| [22:02:11] | justinh: | nope. or mediawiki search is being crummy |
| [22:04:42] | frankster: | thanks, this is what I thought it would be. |
| [22:04:51] | justinh: | if you want to launch the EPG with the little live tv window it'll be something different |
| [22:05:21] | frankster: | ah i thought that came up if you were already watching live tv |
| [22:05:57] | justinh: | no if you're watching livetv & you press a button bound to the GUIDE jumppoint I think it'll bounce out of livetv into the plain EPG |
| [22:06:32] | justinh: | heh.. this is something else that perhaps hasn't been quite so well thought through |
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| [22:09:24] | sphery: | ThisNewGuy: can you make a ticket and upload the backtrace (and, ideally, any log from that run of mythtranscode) |
| [22:11:36] | frankster: | justinh; ok so looking at the conf there is the GUIDE that you talked about under the proper events. Also under the jump points, I have Program Guide, Live TV In Guide. do you think Program Guide is the same as GUIDE and Live TV In Guide is the Picture in picture one? |
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| [22:15:14] | justinh: | frankster: GUIDE is a jumppoint. it'll take you from wherever you are in mythtv to the EPG |
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| [22:16:21] | justinh: | it's also a keybinding so maybe it can be contextual |
| [22:16:50] | justinh: | nope |
| [22:16:52] | justinh: | heh |
| [22:18:13] | justinh: | it'd take forever to fix it so it could be a tad smarter, so if you pressed the button when you're somewhere not involving tv playback it'd take you to the guide, or if you were playing something back (eg live tv) it'd drop you into the livetv EPG |
| [22:18:50] | justinh: | why am I spotting stuff like this when I'm the least inclined to do something about it? |
| [22:19:49] | frankster: | turns out my theme on the frontend DOES have the description text but its exactly the same as the web stuff |
| [22:20:06] | justinh: | what is it you're trying to do exactly? |
| [22:21:04] | justinh: | have your remote's 'guide' button always take you to the EPG page? if so, you'll have to choose whether to make it a jumppoint (which'll take you to the guide from anywhere) or the plain old keybinding stuck to the 'S' key by default |
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| [22:21:32] | justinh: | and no, mythfrontend won't let you set it to be both |
| [22:22:27] | frankster: | well i've made a keymap for my remote which isn't as yet supported in the kernel and i'm submitting a patch in due course (when i've tested it with mythtv more). its turns out that the default lirc config generated by mythbuntu isn't that great, so I'm working out how to get my remote setup well then im going to submit a patch to mythbuntu so that it gets configured better out of the box. |
| [22:23:13] | justinh: | as I said anyway, you have to decide what you want your 'guide' button to do :-) |
| [22:23:15] | frankster: | i actually think mythtv should be mapping devinput events directly without having to piss about going via lirc, but as i discovered last night in mythtv dev channel, there are X limitations that prevent this happening |
| [22:23:34] | justinh: | lirc isn't so bad |
| [22:23:48] | frankster: | yep and possibly it could be fine if there is a solid devinput remote mapping |
| [22:23:52] | justinh: | but yeah it'd be easier not to have to mess with it |
| [22:23:57] | frankster: | that comes as default with all distros |
| [22:24:05] | justinh: | wahahahahaha |
| [22:24:13] | justinh: | you have some sense of humour about you ;-) |
| [22:24:15] | frankster: | (and it may well do with other distros than mythbuntu but havent tired them) |
| [22:24:18] | frankster: | :)( |
| [22:24:19] | frankster: | :) |
| [22:24:24] | justinh: | and one day, we will all live on the moon |
| [22:24:27] | frankster: | yep |
| [22:24:42] | frankster: | also its still a bit shitty because if youi change a keymapping in mythtv that could break your lirc mapping |
| [22:24:49] | justinh: | but by then all our TVs won't suck at doing all this for us already |
| [22:25:09] | justinh: | watch your language in here. family friendly channel & all that :-) |
| [22:26:07] | frankster: | k. anyway seeing as there's not much I can do about the 8 bit keycode limitation, the next best thing I can do is improve the default mapping on mythbuntu at least |
| [22:26:36] | frankster: | though I am having problems getting some buttons to work |
| [22:27:06] | frankster: | like, how pressing enter on the remote doesnt activate the current menu item, instead i have to press the right arrow key which is a bit unintutive |
| [22:27:12] | justinh: | what has never helped lirc users is the fact that users can call buttons anything they want |
| [22:27:34] | frankster: | well in the kernel they're trying to standardise the mappings |
| [22:27:38] | justinh: | I used to argue that there should be standard names |
| [22:27:45] | frankster: | yep they are moving in that direction |
| [22:27:48] | ThisNewGuy: | sphery: will do |
| [22:27:55] | justinh: | so Guide is Guide on every remote possible, etc etc etc |
| [22:28:12] | justinh: | and when a new button pops up out of nowhere, it gets a new standard name :) |
| [22:28:16] | frankster: | yep |
| [22:28:19] | frankster: | totally agree |
| [22:28:24] | frankster: | why dont you argue that any more? |
| [22:28:27] | frankster: | bored of trying? ;) |
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| [22:28:31] | justinh: | I got tired of it |
| [22:29:23] | justinh: | like I got tired of trying to get more sanity into other keybinding related subjects |
| [22:30:01] | justinh: | it's all mythtv's fault. too many options :P |
| [22:30:19] | frankster: | once i've got my remote working well, my plan is to make sure that all the keycodes described here http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Remote_Controllers have sensible lirc mappings in mythbuntu |
| [22:30:55] | frankster: | tbh i thought once i had wrote my keytable for the kernel I thought that would be 90% of the hassle sorted |
| [22:31:03] | justinh: | I just had a hunch I might be able to get my old pgup & pgdn functionality back into 'watch recordings' via a quick keybindings fix. Wrong |
| [22:31:12] | frankster: | but in fact its about another 90% hassle getting all the buttons in mythtv |
| [22:31:21] | justinh: | I miss '3' & '9' doing that |
| [22:31:36] | frankster: | ha |
| [22:31:39] | frankster: | that's annoying |
| [22:32:09] | frankster: | also something confuses me by trying to save bookmarks all the time |
| [22:32:12] | justinh: | I could bind 3 & 9 to pgup & pgdn BUT I'd lose the ability to use them as number keys |
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| [22:33:39] | justinh: | oo. my remote has colour buttons I'm not using |
| [22:33:44] | justinh: | problem solved |
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| [22:34:22] | ThisNewGuy: | sphery: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10392 |
| [22:36:07] | justinh: | DOH. Turns out I already had pgup & pgdown bound to |< and >| |
| [22:36:16] | frankster: | ha |
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| [22:37:08] | justinh: | another first world problem solved! |
| [22:37:51] | trumee: | wagnerrp: any idea if this is merged in 0.24-fixes, http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10054 ? |
| [22:39:29] | wagnerrp: | likely not, considering its still open |
| [22:39:46] | wagnerrp: | did you have a patch or something to contribute that you want it unlocked? |
| [22:41:24] | trumee: | wagnerrp: no, but i see there is patch posted. I am facing the same issue (lot of conflicting channels). |
| [22:42:48] | wagnerrp: | i dont know anything about the scanner, and even less about dvb |
| [22:42:51] | wagnerrp: | so im not the one to ask |
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| [22:48:50] | frankster: | so I'm having a problem with my lirc config – I have a line to map KEY_EPG from my remote to S, yet when I press the remote it doesn't bring up the EPG. pressing S on the keyboard does bring up the EPG. Is there a way of logging what mythtv gets from lirc? |
| [22:49:19] | justinh: | try irw to see what lirc is outputting |
| [22:49:39] | justinh: | oh and make sure you restart mythfrontend when you change lircrc. it only reads it once |
| [22:50:36] | frankster: | I restarted my computer since doing that so its not an out of date config thing |
| [22:50:40] | frankster: | irw shows frankster@mythtv:~$ irw |
| [22:50:40] | frankster: | 000000008001016d 00 KEY_EPG devinput |
| [22:50:49] | frankster: | I know from evtest its getting KEY_EPG |
| [22:51:01] | frankster: | so it doesnt tell me much |
| [22:51:12] | frankster: | lirc should be giving S to mythtv |
| [22:51:21] | justinh: | right. so what does your lircrc look like? (pastebin it) |
| [22:51:34] | trumee: | wagnerrp: np, i will try the patch. |
| [22:54:38] | frankster: | http://pastebin.com/eqSCWcyD the mapping for KEY_EPG is right at the end |
| [22:58:35] | justinh: | frankster: hmm looks ok to me |
| [22:58:40] | frankster: | exactly |
| [22:58:49] | frankster: | its basically identical to others |
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| [23:01:04] | frankster: | anyone got any idea about how to log lirc stuff in mythtv? |
| [23:02:16] | frankster: | ah actually I'm being alittle dense |
| [23:02:23] | frankster: | I changed the user mythtv runs at as of yesterday |
| [23:02:24] | frankster: | ha |
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| [23:04:56] | justinh: | that'd do it. heh |
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| [23:06:34] | frankster: | ah yes it works now |
| [23:06:40] | frankster: | also, it has the little picture in the top right |
| [23:06:48] | frankster: | so that bit does work correctly |
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| [23:15:30] | frankster: | it takes about 5s for my dvb signal to lock. Is this normal (perhaps while waiting for a new start frame packet or whatever)? or does it mean my dvb card isn't great |
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| [23:19:13] | justinh: | welcome to the world of the livetv user :) |
| [23:19:39] | justinh: | it's not taking that long to lock, I suspect. maybe that long to change channels though |
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| [23:20:44] | justinh: | time taken to tune + time taken to get a lock + time taken til valid data starts coming out + time taken to write a bit to disk + time taken to buffer some + time taken to play it |
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| [23:25:31] | wizbit: | would a Rasberry Pi make a nice frontend? |
| [23:25:41] | [R]: | of course not |
| [23:25:45] | ** [R] summons wagnerrp ** | |
| [23:25:57] | wizbit: | not even for sd? |
| [23:26:32] | [R]: | not even for anything |
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| [23:28:09] | wizbit: | what could i use it for then |
| [23:28:40] | [R]: | playing a game of catch? |
| [23:28:48] | k-man: | hehe |
| [23:28:48] | [R]: | toss it to a friend, have him toss it back? |
| [23:28:52] | wizbit: | :( |
| [23:29:15] | k-man: | good as an alternative to arduino for hardware projects imho |
| [23:30:18] | frankster: | is raspberry pi more powerful that adruino btw? |
| [23:30:30] | k-man: | i believe so |
| [23:30:39] | frankster: | im pretty sure im going to get a raspberry pi, i just havent worked out what im going to use it for yet :) |
| [23:31:16] | [R]: | i just said |
| [23:31:18] | [R]: | a nice game of catch |
| [23:31:38] | frankster: | best idea i've come up with so far is watch a webcam and do image recognition and alert me if there is non-cat movement in thef rame. not sure rasp pi is anywhere near powerful enough for that though |
| [23:31:49] | frankster: | [R]: I already have my eeepc for that.. |
| [23:33:21] | frankster: | im thinking of getting http://www.shuttle.eu/products/slim/xs35gtv2/overview/ as a frontend (though the tv doesnt support hdmi so may have to reconsider) |
| [23:33:51] | ertyu-m: | if they hooked up the CEC port on the HDMI, that could be a good use |
| [23:36:15] | frankster: | justinh: well yeah the lock is maybe 1.5s then there are 3s of black screen before it starts playing. compared to other dvb setboxes its really long, even a crappy old sony discontinued one where the epg doesnt even work any more |
| [23:36:26] | frankster: | the sony takes about 1s to change channel |
| [23:36:36] | frankster: | and the main one I currently use is even quicker than that |
| [23:37:52] | clever: | ertyu-m: the pi does support cec |
| [23:43:06] | k-man: | people seem to be going nuts over the pi for some reason |
| [23:43:17] | frankster: | i guess cos its pretty cheap? |
| [23:43:32] | frankster: | more power than a bbc micro which was hundreds or thousands two decades ago? |
| [23:44:35] | justinh: | meh |
| [23:44:36] | Technophil: | I gather the chip in the PI, while being good for H.264 1080i decoding is also a match for a Pentium II 400, is if (IF) all the obstacles to get it working as a frontend are overcome, it will still perform as fast as a PII 400 with menus, booting etc. Do I want a low power silent frontend? Yes. Do I want it to move at snails pace? No. There are other things the pi will be better for, the designers intended use is clearly o |
| [23:44:58] | [R]: | the gpu does the video |
| [23:45:01] | [R]: | nothign to do with the cpu |
| [23:45:08] | clever: | Technophil: my old master backend was a P2 400mhz |
| [23:45:19] | clever: | yes, it does suck when rescheduling happens |
| [23:45:24] | clever: | but as a frontend, it worked ok |
| [23:45:30] | Technophil: | clever: Are you using it now to do 1080i? |
| [23:45:32] | frankster: | so it could make a frontend maybe... |
| [23:45:40] | justinh: | no, not with so little ram |
| [23:45:42] | clever: | Technophil: i cant capture HD |
| [23:45:56] | Technophil: | capture? |
| [23:46:00] | justinh: | maybe if you wanted it to be lacking in visuals – no fanart, no covers, no posters... |
| [23:46:04] | Technophil: | Do you mean display? |
| [23:46:04] | clever: | no capture hardware for HD |
| [23:46:16] | clever: | so i have no legal way to obtain HD content |
| [23:46:22] | Technophil: | Ahhh |
| [23:46:38] | clever: | stuck with a pvr-150 |
| [23:46:46] | justinh: | there's always 'big buck bunny' LOL |
| [23:47:04] | Technophil: | FWIW I do have a P400II and a PCI nvidia card which one day I do intend to fig up for fun to see that it works and how slow it actually is.! |
| [23:47:40] | Technophil: | I am concerned the bus might not cope with the power load of the NVIDIA PCI card though.... |
| [23:47:53] | justinh: | Technophil: it'll likely be worse than a cable STB |
| [23:47:53] | clever: | when i was upgrading things a few months ago, i took the pvr-150 out of the P2 |
| [23:47:59] | clever: | and then things just went downhill |
| [23:48:10] | clever: | one of the 3 harddrives would fail to show up in the system |
| [23:48:20] | clever: | it wasnt always the same drive |
| [23:48:27] | clever: | but LVM isnt happy with even 1 missing |
| [23:49:28] | justinh: | LVM is a bit of a cow about that :-) |
| [23:49:31] | Hydr0p0nX: | any recommendations for a secondarey tuner card ? |
| [23:49:40] | clever: | i would have kept using the P2 for storage, but it just crapped itself |
| [23:49:52] | wagnerrp: | Technophil: closer to a PII 250 |
| [23:50:35] | Technophil: | I expect justinh is correct, which seems to me the best point to rebuff the Rpi as a frontend, most other obstacles could be overcome, its speed won't be, short of borrowing cpu cycles from somewhere else...or clogging 10 of them together or something.... Why not just say that the end point performance is unlikely to meet any WAF criteria.... |
| [23:50:37] | wagnerrp: | the difference is you can stuff 512MB of memory in that PII |
| [23:50:50] | wagnerrp: | while 256MB is pushing it for mythfrontend |
| [23:50:56] | clever: | i think my P2 desktop was less then 512mb |
| [23:50:59] | wagnerrp: | and 128MB is out of the question |
| [23:51:08] | clever: | wagnerrp: they upgraded the model a to 256 |
| [23:51:16] | clever: | and the model b is only 10$ more at $35 |
| [23:51:23] | Technophil: | 128M is no longer relevant as they've upgarded the cheapie spec to 256M also... |
| [23:51:39] | wagnerrp: | so they charge an extra $10 for ethernet? |
| [23:51:51] | wagnerrp: | and its not even PoE ethernet? |
| [23:51:56] | clever: | wagnerrp: extra $10 for more ram, ethernet, and a second usb port |
| [23:52:18] | Technophil: | What I don;t know is whether they could upgrade the 256 to 512M? |
| [23:52:40] | clever: | Technophil: i believe the ram and cpu are psysicaly stacked on the same footprint |
| [23:52:51] | clever: | not the type of thing you can upgrade at home |
| [23:53:09] | Technophil: | Even if they could the thing is still going to perform at slow PII speeds.... |
| [23:54:45] | wagnerrp: | eew.... 32MB-128MB gets dedicated to video graphics |
| [23:54:51] | wagnerrp: | so its considerably less than 256MB |
| [23:55:16] | clever: | i believe it was mentioned that 1080 decode will suffer if you try to use just 32mb |
| [23:55:40] | justinh: | 1080 decode of only certain formats. they haven't licensed many |
| [23:55:53] | wagnerrp: | so the memory issues just became that much more severe at 192MB |
| [23:55:55] | justinh: | no mpeg2 for USA HD, nor for UK DVB-T] |
| [23:56:02] | clever: | yeah, and the actual decode is a binary blob, same as vdpau |
| [23:56:03] | wagnerrp: | justinh: yeah, theyve only licensed H264 |
| [23:56:07] | Technophil: | *** reaches for....where is the datasheet they published |
| [23:56:18] | justinh: | it's on their wiki |
| [23:56:29] | justinh: | broadcom don't really give out datasheets |
| [23:56:41] | clever: | they recently gave out one of them |
| [23:56:44] | justinh: | oh yeah that's the other rub. BROADCOM |
| [23:56:53] | justinh: | clever: it didn't say much though |
| [23:57:00] | clever: | its 205 pages long |
| [23:57:07] | justinh: | some register definitions, nothing like enough |
| [23:57:08] | Technophil: | What was published was measured in 100's of pages....shows what can be done when you have staff on site.... |
| [23:57:11] | wagnerrp: | looks like the big chip in the center is the Hynix LPDDR module |
| [23:57:18] | wagnerrp: | the ROM is the smaller chip off to the side |
| [23:57:26] | wagnerrp: | s/ROM/ARM/ |
| [23:57:40] | justinh: | nothing about how to control the video decoding core stuff |
| [23:57:45] | Technophil: | My recall is there is no ROM, its all on the SD card.... |
| [23:57:58] | justinh: | it needs at least a bootloader, silly |
| [23:58:03] | clever: | justinh: yeah, the video decoding is all done thru calls to a binary blob, that hardware isnt exposed |
| [23:58:07] | wagnerrp: | there has to be some form of ROM |
| [23:58:18] | wagnerrp: | although that could be something built directly into the SOC |
| [23:58:22] | clever: | the bootloader loads the GPU firmware from the sd card |
| [23:58:34] | clever: | the GPU firmware then loads the linux kernel from anything |
| [23:58:41] | justinh: | clever: yeah but no docs about any API for the decoding |
| [23:59:06] | wagnerrp: | oh, the cheaper version has NO networking now |
| [23:59:11] | wagnerrp: | i thought it had wireless |
| [23:59:18] | clever: | it never had wireless |
| [23:59:18] | Beirdo: | ahhh, booze... at work. :) |
| [23:59:35] | clever: | just get a usb wifi stick, those ones you could sneeze and loose |
| [23:59:47] | Beirdo: | celebrating "Leap Day". ooooh |
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