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| [01:43:03] | jello: | what do i need to do to get mythtv to use the remote-control that came with my hvr-2250? |
| [01:49:30] | tweek__: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Transcode.py |
| [01:49:44] | tweek__: | just committed it. thanks for all the help guys, lemme know if there's anything that should be changed |
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| [02:10:56] | jello: | what do i need to do to get mythtv to use the remote-control that came with my hvr-2250? |
| [02:11:12] | jello: | can anyone tell me which kernel module i need to load? |
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| [02:28:06] | Beirdo: | bored |
| [02:29:02] | jello: | anyone know how I can find out which kernel module my hvr-2250 needs? |
| [02:29:10] | jello: | can anyone tell me which kernel module i need to load? |
| [02:29:30] | [R]: | the kernel should automatically load the correct one |
| [02:29:51] | jello: | [R]: err, how do i know if it did? |
| [02:30:10] | [R]: | what kind of a card is that? |
| [02:30:25] | Beirdo: | an HVR-2250 |
| [02:30:32] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:30:38] | jello: | [R]: hauppauge hvr-2250 |
| [02:30:43] | [R]: | yes, you already stated that... |
| [02:30:58] | jello: | recording tv works fine |
| [02:31:08] | [R]: | then sounds like the module is loaded... |
| [02:31:11] | Beirdo: | I don't know that the remote is supported in Linux |
| [02:31:12] | jello: | but i don't see anything appropriate for lirc |
| [02:32:06] | jello: | Beirdo: that would suck for me |
| [02:38:01] | Beirdo: | such is life |
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| [03:57:00] | ertyu-m: | I know I'm probably going to get a biased answer, but does anyone want to weigh in: standard def tivo vs arris gateway vs mythtv (thats in order of cost too) |
| [03:58:06] | [R]: | myth is the best of course |
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| [03:59:42] | ertyu-m: | and the most expensive in my current option set, albeit with the most potential features |
| [03:59:44] | russell5: | never used tivi or seen arris. but myth |
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| [04:00:35] | sphery: | so arris gateway is more expensive than standard-def tivo? |
| [04:00:52] | ertyu-m: | arris is kinda like a commerical version of myth, but not quite baked yet |
| [04:00:55] | sphery: | I'm guessing it must be HDTV capable? |
| [04:01:03] | sphery: | ah, just wondered |
| [04:01:11] | ertyu-m: | the tivo is a sunk cost already, been using it for years |
| [04:01:12] | sphery: | I will agree, though, that MythTV is an expensive proposition |
| [04:01:27] | sphery: | most people think it's "free", but it's really just very expensive and Free |
| [04:02:11] | ertyu-m: | here's the splashy details on gateway: http://shaw.ca/Gateway/ |
| [04:03:34] | sphery: | best info I could give--having only used MythTV--is that MythTV is a good hobby (if you're looking for something to keep you busy besides watching TV), and if you spend enough time/money on it, you'll have a pretty nice DVR, too |
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| [04:04:24] | ertyu-m: | thats kind of a downside I don't really want and am a tad worried about |
| [04:05:41] | sphery: | agreed--and that's why I haven't recommended MythTV to anyone I know since I started using it |
| [04:05:44] | ertyu-m: | I know my tivo will just sit there and work, but its at the end of its road and standard def |
| [04:06:09] | sphery: | because, while I'm happy to spend time playing with the system, most people who want a DVR just want a DVR |
| [04:06:09] | ertyu-m: | the arris box has potential to be good, but right now it just barely works and it seems like there are some big bugs in what is there |
| [04:06:32] | ertyu-m: | my friends that use myth seem to have no troubles once its up and running, they just leave it alone |
| [04:06:40] | sphery: | that said, I do love having my mythtv and can't imagine going back to not having it |
| [04:06:57] | sphery: | and, yeah, that's generally the best bet |
| [04:07:04] | sphery: | use the stable mythtv, install it, let it run |
| [04:07:13] | sphery: | upgrade when you have time and don't mind missing recordings |
| [04:07:31] | sphery: | (because it always takes longer than you expect) |
| [04:07:46] | ertyu-m: | gateway summary if you don't want to read: has a frontend/backend like setup with separate boxes, the backend has 6 cable tuners, and supports up to 6 frontends, the rest of the functionality doesn't really exist yet |
| [04:08:23] | russell5: | yeah each frontend is like 180 bucks. with myth any old computer can become a frontend. |
| [04:08:44] | russell5: | and you can start off with less tuners if you dont need six and easy to add more |
| [04:08:50] | ertyu-m: | yep |
| [04:08:58] | ertyu-m: | plus I can add OTA for ~free |
| [04:10:29] | russell5: | what i did was start small. used old computer parts i had and just bought 2 pvr150s. |
| [04:10:54] | russell5: | just to see if i would like it. now no part is the same and me and my wife couldnt live without it |
| [04:11:43] | ertyu-m: | ya, I wish I had that option, but my old parts are just too slow to be reliable |
| [04:11:53] | russell5: | lol |
| [04:12:18] | ertyu-m: | I have a dual P3 1ghz on hand, thats the newest of the old |
| [04:12:23] | russell5: | i have my own little computer upgrade cycle. Desktops gets new parts the old ones go into myth |
| [04:12:31] | ertyu-m: | I skipped a few generations from that to core iX |
| [04:14:41] | ertyu-m: | I like the control I have over myth config, instead of remaining dependent on cable co |
| [04:15:34] | sphery: | for me, new parts go to MythTV, old MythTV parts go to deksopts and other systems |
| [04:15:37] | ertyu-m: | at the same time there is always the possibility that the cable co disables the cableboxes to make myth usage even worse |
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| [04:16:56] | sphery: | yeah, that's something I (mostly) don't have to worry about since I'm using only OTA |
| [04:17:47] | sphery: | unfortunately, though, some cell carriers are saying they need to take OTA TV spectrum away to get next-G coverage, and no one uses OTA in the US, anyway |
| [04:17:49] | ertyu-m: | I can only get 2 channels with content I want on OTA |
| [04:18:01] | sphery: | thus the "mostly" |
| [04:18:26] | ertyu-m: | if the 3rd broadcast at enough power I would have the vast majority of prime time covered on those 3 stations |
| [04:19:10] | ertyu-m: | thats how OTA is treated here, I'm still a bit surprised they even converted |
| [04:19:59] | ertyu-m: | more than half of them significantly decrease power and coverage area, so you wonder why they even bother |
| [04:20:45] | ertyu-m: | although I guess the laws gives them special rights if the are OTA, mandatory carriage on all providers |
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| [04:50:00] | wagnerrp: | bah... grimm got bumped for some damn awards show |
| [04:51:30] | sphery: | but fringe and supernatural aired! |
| [04:51:39] | wagnerrp: | why dont you see ceremonies televised very year for achievements in science and technologies? |
| [04:51:50] | wagnerrp: | oh right, were not a bunch of petty, petulant fools... |
| [04:51:54] | [R]: | lol |
| [04:53:33] | sphery: | I think it's because making advances in science is reward enough on its own |
| [04:53:57] | sphery: | not like those hollywood types that need constant reinforcement |
| [04:54:40] | wagnerrp: | a successful test is triumph enough? |
| [04:55:08] | ertyu-m: | its because they won't hold those awards shows during prime time |
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| [05:06:17] | jello: | how can i find out if the remote control on my hvr-2250 is supported in linux? |
| [05:06:54] | [R]: | try to use it |
| [05:07:05] | wagnerrp: | oh joy! |
| [05:07:19] | wagnerrp: | ive just been contacted by Gahdafi's widow |
| [05:07:33] | [R]: | wagnerrp: can i get in on the deal? |
| [05:07:35] | [R]: | i want to make money |
| [05:07:44] | wagnerrp: | she wants me to help her escape Algeria, with the remainder of her $900M |
| [05:07:52] | jello: | [R]: it doesn't work... how do i find out if i just need a new kernel or somesuch... |
| [05:07:54] | [R]: | i want 900M |
| [05:08:05] | [R]: | jello: theres tons of instructions on using the ir on tuner cards |
| [05:08:50] | jello: | [R]: i've been digging through it, but i can't find a clear answer one way or another |
| [05:09:12] | [R]: | you shoudl talk to the lirc guys |
| [05:09:30] | wagnerrp: | guys? is there more than j-rod? |
| [05:10:01] | [R]: | its slang |
| [05:10:27] | sphery: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_W . . . ller_Support isn't too helpful, is it |
| [05:10:45] | [R]: | sphery: HAHA |
| [05:11:13] | [R]: | winlirc... what will they think of next |
| [05:12:31] | jello: | sphery: even a "not currently supported in the driver" would be helpful at this point |
| [05:13:00] | wagnerrp: | jello: i would take absence of evidence as your answer |
| [05:13:48] | sphery: | I have a 2250, but I'm not using a remote with it, so I don't know anything about it |
| [05:13:57] | sphery: | that said, many use MCE USB remotes |
| [05:14:09] | sphery: | and there's one on newegg for $15 today |
| [05:14:35] | ** jello looks ** | |
| [05:14:54] | sphery: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880101008 |
| [05:15:16] | sphery: | + EMCNHJC97 |
| [05:15:37] | sphery: | *and* you get a NetFlix CD |
| [05:15:45] | ertyu-m: | do those remotes actually spew the alpha-numerics they have printed by the buttons? |
| [05:15:48] | jello: | sphery: it shows as $25 |
| [05:15:51] | sphery: | (that's CD, not DVD or BluRay... CD) |
| [05:16:02] | sphery: | jello: yes, that's why you need to promo code |
| [05:16:02] | jello: | er, 25.99 |
| [05:16:03] | wagnerrp: | the remotes dont spew anything |
| [05:16:11] | wagnerrp: | they send arbitrary IR codes |
| [05:16:27] | sphery: | jello: 02.18 00:15:16 <+sphery> + EMCNHJC97 |
| [05:16:28] | wagnerrp: | those arbitrary IR codes are translated into named buttons with a properly configured lircd.conf |
| [05:16:55] | sphery: | or into random keys with a kernel keyboard driver |
| [05:17:41] | ertyu-m: | do they have a mostly full set of keys mapped? |
| [05:18:00] | jello: | sphery: do you know if that one works with lirc? |
| [05:18:01] | ertyu-m: | keyboard keys that is |
| [05:18:06] | sphery: | you don't want to use the keyboard approach |
| [05:18:12] | wagnerrp: | depends on the version |
| [05:18:14] | sphery: | you want to use lirc... it's so much better that way |
| [05:18:28] | wagnerrp: | mine does not function as an HID keyboard at all |
| [05:18:45] | ertyu-m: | I've not had a good experience with lirc thus far |
| [05:18:45] | sphery: | jello: I haven't used that one, but I know a lot of people use the mce usb remote with lirc |
| [05:18:58] | sphery: | pretty sure it's just a "normal" mce usb remote |
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| [05:25:57] | jello: | sphery: that's nice! thanks for the tip |
| [05:26:08] | sphery: | hope it works out |
| [05:26:15] | sphery: | wish I knew more about the 2250 remote |
| [05:27:56] | jello: | sphery: i was going to ask on the lirc mailing list |
| [05:28:05] | jello: | and maybe the linuxtv one too |
| [05:28:20] | sphery: | yeah, they're likely to know more |
| [05:28:40] | sphery: | btw, that promo code is good until the 20th, so you have a few days to decide\ |
| [05:28:49] | jello: | cool! |
| [05:29:26] | jello: | sphery: thanks for your help, if you're ever in nyc – first round is on me |
| [05:30:50] | ** jello needs a wireless keyboard and mouse too ** | |
| [05:30:54] | ertyu-m: | promo code doesn't help at newegg.ca unfortunately |
| [05:32:44] | sphery: | yeah, probably us only |
| [05:33:02] | sphery: | those .ca guys aren't as nice as us |
| [05:33:28] | sphery: | (where I'm not in any way affiliated with newegg, but am in the USofA) |
| [05:35:31] | wagnerrp: | uh oh, J.J.'s other projects are beginning to bleed through |
| [05:35:41] | wagnerrp: | walter asks to be taken "to the bridge" |
| [05:35:55] | sphery: | hehe |
| [05:36:10] | sphery: | was he a young cadet? |
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| [05:49:13] | wagnerrp: | well that ended differently... |
| [05:55:26] | sphery: | according to TMS, shockingly |
| [06:00:35] | wagnerrp: | shockingly? i wouldnt go that far |
| [06:01:07] | wagnerrp: | more that a specific behavioral trait of some particular entity/person/group has changed |
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| [06:02:16] | sphery: | but "frightening clues and connections lead Olivia to a shocking conclusion" |
| [06:02:41] | wagnerrp: | theres no shocking in the conclusion |
| [06:02:59] | sphery: | gonna have to watch it tonight |
| [06:03:25] | wagnerrp: | the conclusion was not unpredictable |
| [06:03:32] | wagnerrp: | and olivia did not come to any conclusions |
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| [06:07:21] | sphery: | time for me to see for myself |
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| [06:58:46] | melissa__: | was reading about a fork, is this true |
| [06:59:04] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [07:00:08] | wagnerrp: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/network/members |
| [07:00:14] | melissa__: | are there many devs splitting off |
| [07:00:32] | melissa__: | I will read it, thanks wagnerrp |
| [07:00:41] | wagnerrp: | currently, 1 |
| [07:03:19] | melissa__: | humm, that is a large undertaking |
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| [07:07:34] | sphery: | wagnerrp: agreed on the lack of "shocking conclusion"... next episode looks good though |
| [07:08:10] | wagnerrp: | so yeah... why do you think the change of behavior of "that entity"? |
| [07:09:17] | wagnerrp: | or do you think it was previously done out of convenience, rather than necessity? |
| [07:09:30] | sphery: | I think I need more specific questions... PM? |
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| [07:49:13] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: the logger is asynchronous, correct? |
| [07:49:26] | wagnerrp: | meaning i could potentially segfault and terminate before it has a chance to write something out? |
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| [07:57:48] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [07:58:34] | Beirdo: | which is why any time I use abort() in debugging, I use a sleep(1) or sleep(2) first |
| [07:58:46] | Beirdo: | let the logs flush, THEN kill it :) |
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| [08:08:47] | Fliegenfalle: | Hey I 've got a small question. |
| [08:09:19] | Fliegenfalle: | Is it possible to run MythTV on a Humax Icord HD? |
| [08:10:37] | [R]: | what is a humax icord hd |
| [08:10:49] | [R]: | and do you mean the backend, the frontend, or both |
| [08:10:50] | Fliegenfalle: | The firmware is already linux-based. |
| [08:11:09] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like some cheesy little MIPS DVR |
| [08:12:05] | Fliegenfalle: | Sorry I don't know much about the Firmware |
| [08:12:32] | Fliegenfalle: | But it is a small pvr |
| [08:12:58] | [R]: | does it run X? do yuou have a comiler for it? |
| [08:13:04] | [R]: | $100 says no to both |
| [08:13:19] | Fliegenfalle: | 500 GB, not much ram |
| [08:14:14] | Fliegenfalle: | Ok I will later plug the hard drive to my computer and will check |
| [08:14:25] | wagnerrp: | [R]: want a paypal account to send that to? |
| [08:14:32] | [R]: | HAHA |
| [08:14:42] | Fliegenfalle: | But maybe it could work? |
| [08:14:56] | wagnerrp: | i could send you a link to the gcc blend they have downloadable on their servers |
| [08:14:57] | [R]: | Fliegenfalle: no, because the answer to both of my questsions is no |
| [08:15:20] | Fliegenfalle: | Ok |
| [08:15:21] | [R]: | and seeing as wagnerrp found one, i'll rephrase myu questino to |
| [08:15:22] | wagnerrp: | 2.6.12 kernel, gcc 3.4.6, some blend of busybox |
| [08:15:24] | [R]: | do you know hwo tou se a compiler |
| [08:16:42] | Fliegenfalle: | Which compilor? |
| [08:16:52] | wagnerrp: | FFS, the SCO/IBM lawsuit is back on |
| [08:17:01] | Fliegenfalle: | *compiler |
| [08:17:02] | [R]: | wagnerrp: its just to finish it up |
| [08:17:12] | [R]: | wagnerrp: seeing as SCO has no legal claims |
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| [08:25:39] | wagnerrp: | here we go... Broadcom 97401, 300MHz |
| [08:30:36] | wagnerrp: | HAH! |
| [08:30:42] | wagnerrp: | it IS a mips chip |
| [08:30:44] | wagnerrp: | score! |
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| [08:40:55] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: still up? |
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| [09:18:11] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: what, how do they still make money? |
| [09:20:41] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [09:21:09] | wagnerrp: | oh, theyre bankrupt, they dont |
| [09:21:14] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: sco, but reading groklaw I see it's the bankruptcy court they're talking about |
| [09:22:22] | AndyCap: | a rather shameful exit for caldera :( |
| [09:23:04] | wagnerrp: | you copied our code, but were not going to show you the evidence to prove you copied our code |
| [09:23:17] | wagnerrp: | seriously... how the fu-- did that go on for so long? |
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| [09:28:38] | dekarl-too: | justinh, sphery: I think you can simply buy a DVD player for some years now http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-dvd-player/ |
| [09:29:11] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: I don't know but it falls solidly into the stupid quadrant. http://www.searchlores.org/realicra/basiclaws . . . tupidity.htm |
| [09:29:15] | dekarl-too: | oops, should have been wagnerrp |
| [09:30:44] | AndyCap: | dekarl-too: yaaay. Support for region settings |
| [09:31:12] | dekarl-too: | is that a bug or a feature? ;) |
| [09:31:19] | AndyCap: | dekarl-too: it does suck to be a slave to the DVD-CCA |
| [09:32:08] | AndyCap: | most annoying is that they haven't resigned and given up the darned region settings on newer players |
| [09:32:20] | dekarl-too: | but regions are important! I've just heard that all the online piracy only causes damage to the box office because the movies are delayed ... |
| [09:32:52] | dekarl-too: | in markets where there is no enforced delay there is no damage |
| [09:33:10] | AndyCap: | ho-hum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R5_(bootleg) |
| [09:33:46] | wagnerrp: | im running my test backends in jails |
| [09:33:50] | Scopeuk: | isent the principal that an R5 is a legitimate rough cut releases? |
| [09:34:16] | wagnerrp: | and as a consequence 'netstat' doesnt work properly to query a list of in-use sockets |
| [09:34:46] | wagnerrp: | im wondering if the same thing that prevents that from working, also means a new 'listen()' call doesnt know something is already listening on that port |
| [09:35:06] | wagnerrp: | as i can start up a second backend instance |
| [09:35:23] | dekarl-too: | ahh, heres the link to the damages http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1986299 |
| [09:35:26] | wagnerrp: | that usurps access to port 6543 from the first backend instance |
| [09:35:29] | AndyCap: | Scopeuk: problem is that the legitimate r5 gets pasted all over the intarwebs, so the plan sort of backfires. |
| [09:35:59] | Scopeuk: | AndyCap, not disputing that |
| [09:37:38] | AndyCap: | dekarl-too: heh, got that in a tab-queue on another machine. |
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| [11:51:24] | Wakou: | Hi folks, I have just bought a new telly. I would like to access FreeviewHD, and also BBC iPlayer and preferably 4OD and ITV player whatever it is called. I don't NEED to record etc, but of course that extra functionality would be nice.... |
| [11:51:25] | Wakou: | What possibilities are there? I have enough bits to build a PC which could be dedicated to this purpose, and I have a fast Broadband connection........ |
| [11:53:00] | Wakou: | http://www.amazon.co.uk/i-CAN-Easy-HD-GBR-2851T/dp/B00524YSYS |
| [11:53:21] | Wakou: | That sort of thing, but they are no longer made.... |
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| [12:18:03] | elkin: | hi everyone! I am playing with the new animation settings for the themes. I have not gotten an animation to stop. Maybe I have not understood the concept but just putting looped=false does not work. |
| [12:22:07] | elkin: | never mind, found out that you just need to leave out the duration parameter of the zoom etc... |
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| [14:49:26] | pyrodex2: | loving the new meta data lookup in 0.25... don't have to always switch back and forth between myth and sickbeard when I am archiving my fav shows. |
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| [15:29:35] | tally_: | hi everyone I am having a couple problems setting up mythtv. I have my media in a 6tb raid 5 array on my backend and I have set up my storage groups on array. However when I try to watch anything on my frontend after performing the scan fro changes command, it cannot find any videos. |
| [15:30:23] | tally_: | I can however watch things on the backend |
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| [16:25:19] | Eruphus: | Hi :) |
| [16:25:19] | Eruphus: | i get a strange "error opening jump program file" error as soon as i want to watch TV live. |
| [16:25:19] | Eruphus: | i dont know what to do as google provides no further idea |
| [16:26:35] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs |
| [16:36:10] | Eruphus: | hm, i cannot figure out any hints from the log |
| [16:36:10] | Eruphus: | 2012-02–18 17:32:16.963 LoadFromScheduler(): Error, called from backend. |
| [16:36:10] | Eruphus: | is the only line with the word "error" |
| [16:36:10] | Eruphus: | if post the "tail -n 10" could you please read over it? |
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| [16:36:49] | wagnerrp: | tail only gives the last <n> lines from the logs |
| [16:37:25] | wagnerrp: | chances are in the past 30 minutes since youve had this problem, those have been filled with subsequent logs from other things the backend is doing |
| [16:37:35] | Eruphus: | sure, i asked you if you could read over the last lines of my log ;) |
| [16:37:40] | wagnerrp: | pastebin the last several hundred lines |
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| [16:37:57] | wagnerrp: | thats pastebin, not paste |
| [16:38:13] | stuartm: | http://pastebin.com |
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| [16:43:51] | Eruphus: | wagnerrp, i have this problem since the first minute of mythtv usage. |
| [16:43:51] | Eruphus: | dont have even seen any TV. |
| [16:45:01] | wagnerrp: | yes, mythfrontend cant access the recording, since mythbackend is having some error and cannot record |
| [16:45:12] | wagnerrp: | we need to see the mythbackend logs to determine why it cannot record |
| [16:45:30] | wagnerrp: | preferably, logs starting from the point you initially started mythbackend |
| [16:46:27] | Eruphus: | kk, i clean the log and restart the backend. |
| [16:46:27] | Eruphus: | i will try to watch tv and stop the backend afterwords. |
| [16:46:52] | jello: | Eruphus: run on your backend machine: `apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit -i /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log` |
| [16:47:14] | jello: | then give us the URL it spits out |
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| [16:51:48] | Eruphus: | http://pastebin.com/mD0crUTA |
| [16:52:12] | Eruphus: | Wow, pastebin is quite usefull! thx |
| [16:56:33] | jello: | there are some errors starting at line 41, but i don't know what to make of them... |
| [16:56:57] | wagnerrp: | youre running mythbackend as root? |
| [16:58:16] | Eruphus: | it uses the "mythtv" user created during the setup of mythtv |
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| [16:59:16] | wagnerrp: | the title says 'root' which would indicate you run the pastebinit command as root |
| [16:59:53] | wagnerrp: | those are backend logs run using the system's init scripts then? |
| [17:00:32] | Eruphus: | jup, i used root over ssh for pastebin |
| [17:00:45] | Eruphus: | jup, init scripts.. |
| [17:00:58] | wagnerrp: | is mythfrontend run using the same username? |
| [17:02:25] | Eruphus: | jup, currently i use the same user |
| [17:03:01] | wagnerrp: | perhaps this actually is a frontend issue, could you paste the frontend logs? |
| [17:04:52] | Eruphus: | sure, i guess i have to activate the logs for the frontend? |
| [17:04:52] | Eruphus: | the dir /var/log/mythtv does not contain a frontend log file |
| [17:05:24] | wagnerrp: | it may be logging to the terminal you ran it from |
| [17:06:13] | Eruphus: | one moment, i take a look |
| [17:08:57] | Eruphus: | http://pastebin.com/D8kmVFyA |
| [17:09:18] | Eruphus: | genious, there is a line "2012-02–18 18:06:55.636 AFD Error: Could not find codec parameters. file was "/tmp/1012_20120218180655.mpg"." |
| [17:09:30] | Eruphus: | looks like a hint to me ^^ |
| [17:09:43] | wagnerrp: | tmp? why is it recording to tmp? |
| [17:10:26] | wagnerrp: | it sounds like you never configured any storage directors, and its falling through to the emergency default |
| [17:10:52] | wagnerrp: | but then the backend should have terminated itself on startup due to a bad configuration |
| [17:11:21] | wagnerrp: | does that file listed actually exist? |
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| [17:13:14] | Eruphus: | i choosed /tmp; i dont need the files and thought they will be deleted by the system every reboot. |
| [17:13:14] | Eruphus: | nope, the file does not exist. |
| [17:13:14] | Eruphus: | do you think tmp is a invalid dir for record files? |
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| [17:13:57] | wagnerrp: | if your recordings are deleted, mythtv will become cluttered with orphaned references to files |
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| [17:14:26] | wagnerrp: | and your live recordings will automatically delete themselves after 24 hours, or if it needs to free up space for more recordings, which ever comes first |
| [17:14:47] | Eruphus: | makes sense to me. |
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| [17:16:45] | Eruphus: | i will try different dirs |
| [17:17:43] | wagnerrp: | the recording would only be a couple seconds long, so even if it did successfully record, it will be immediately deleted by the backend |
| [17:18:11] | wagnerrp: | and with no real errors visible, i would say bump up the logging |
| [17:18:17] | wagnerrp: | run the frontend and backend both with '-v most' |
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| [17:30:51] | Eruphus: | kk, same errors using different dirs. |
| [17:30:51] | Eruphus: | i will post the enhanced logs |
| [17:31:32] | Eruphus: | front : http://pastebin.com/Af7hFctr |
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| [17:32:07] | Eruphus: | back : http://pastebin.com/01xc2g9V |
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| [17:45:47] | Eruphus: | ok i solved it. |
| [17:45:47] | Eruphus: | the problem was, the the first channel to show was not an undecrypted channel. |
| [17:45:47] | Eruphus: | found this hint inside a german forum : http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/kein-tv-empfang-mit-mythtv/ |
| [17:45:57] | Eruphus: | thx alot for the help folks!! |
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| [18:03:30] | brit: | hello, I am having trouble getting my mythtv to correctly scan the storage group directory I have set, It correctly grabs all of the metadata info, covers ,banners etc and puts them in the folder I have defined but for some reason I cannot access my videos artwork etc on any of my frontends |
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| [18:06:16] | wagnerrp: | what version are you runnin? |
| [18:06:30] | brit: | .25 |
| [18:06:53] | brit: | I followed all of the instructions for setting up Storage Directores |
| [18:06:55] | wagnerrp: | are your videos on the host you defined your Videos storage group in? |
| [18:06:57] | brit: | Directories* |
| [18:07:05] | Cougar: | root |
| [18:07:11] | brit: | yes |
| [18:07:16] | Cougar: | ;-) |
| [18:07:25] | wagnerrp: | i.e. you dont have any videos on a slave backend, getting its Videos definitions as a fall-through from the master backend |
| [18:07:26] | Cougar: | no pw this time ;-p |
| [18:07:43] | brit: | No I have only one backend |
| [18:07:47] | brit: | and 6 frontends |
| [18:08:05] | wagnerrp: | you have all the various Artwork storage groups defined? |
| [18:08:17] | RagingMind: | in the newer mythwebs when you have it list all recordings, is there an option to show a certain number at a time and have pages? |
| [18:08:20] | brit: | Yes and it is grabbing them correctly and putting them in the Storage Group folders |
| [18:08:39] | brit: | However, when i perform a video scan on the frontends it says nothing can be found |
| [18:09:04] | wagnerrp: | make sure youre running a very new version |
| [18:09:05] | brit: | On the backend/frontend machine I can watch the video but no artwork is showing up |
| [18:09:10] | wagnerrp: | the scanner is in a bit of flux at the moment |
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| [18:09:27] | wagnerrp: | getting the Videos storage group to fall through to the master's definitions |
| [18:09:36] | wagnerrp: | and generally behave more similarly to how the recording groups do |
| [18:09:50] | wagnerrp: | but artwork should continue to work as before, no one has touched that yet |
| [18:09:59] | wagnerrp: | check your frontend/backend logs |
| [18:10:00] | brit: | Should I define them explicitly on each frontend? |
| [18:10:04] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [18:10:20] | wagnerrp: | you should see errors in the logs, saying its unable to copy the content from the master backend |
| [18:10:44] | brit: | ok im gonig to check that |
| [18:11:45] | wagnerrp: | are your frontends possibly configured to use "file browse mode"? |
| [18:12:12] | wagnerrp: | where you dont scan, you dont get any information from the database, and you access the filesystem tree directly |
| [18:12:56] | brit: | im not sure, how do I check that? |
| [18:13:08] | brit: | the frontend logs show that it is scanning the correct video directory |
| [18:13:09] | wagnerrp: | its in the 'm' menu |
| [18:13:12] | brit: | but still not showing up any videos |
| [18:15:54] | brit: | hmm I cannot seem to find that option in the "m" menu |
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| [18:18:04] | wagnerrp: | m -> Change Video -> [Enable|Disable] File Browse Mode |
| [18:18:12] | wagnerrp: | you want it disabled, such that it says 'Enable' |
| [18:19:03] | brit: | yes it is disabled |
| [18:19:47] | wagnerrp: | you are using a theme that supports artwork? |
| [18:20:56] | brit: | I am using mythbuntu theme |
| [18:21:50] | wagnerrp: | would have to see frontend logs, possibly with increased verbosity |
| [18:22:14] | brit: | Do you think it has something to do with the raid array going through a Raid hardware card |
| [18:22:22] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [18:22:33] | brit: | ok im going to grab the frontend log |
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| [18:26:20] | brit: | Should I paste in here wagnerpp? |
| [18:26:38] | sphery: | http://www.pastebin.com/ |
| [18:26:48] | wagnerrp: | yes, paste the URL to the pastebin in here |
| [18:26:53] | sphery: | (then provide URI in here) |
| [18:28:03] | brit: | http://www.pastebin.com/4BG3L68Z |
| [18:29:55] | wagnerrp: | did you only have the one file in there that it removed? |
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| [18:30:09] | brit: | thats all I have in the directory at the moment |
| [18:30:10] | brit: | for testing |
| [18:30:22] | wagnerrp: | and the file is still in the directory? |
| [18:30:28] | brit: | its still there yes |
| [18:32:06] | brit: | also if I start the frontend on the backend and scan it shows up, and then when I goto mythweb I see it but If i hit scan on mythweb it is gone |
| [18:32:32] | brit: | and I need to rescan on the frontend/backend to have it show up again |
| [18:32:41] | wagnerrp: | file line numbers arent matching up with my source |
| [18:32:45] | wagnerrp: | what specific version are you running? |
| [18:33:25] | brit: | v0.25pre-4589-gf4a1079 |
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| [18:44:42] | wagnerrp: | brit: does your backend actually have file permission to read that directory? |
| [18:46:03] | wagnerrp: | IsMasterHost(), not IsMasterBackend()... |
| [18:46:14] | sphery: | wagnerrp: we really need to fix that mythtv.org officejet... keeps sending me e-mails, and I'm not even requesting scans or prints from it. |
| [18:46:32] | wagnerrp: | brit: actually, is this scan being done on your local frontend, or one of the remote frontends? |
| [18:47:13] | wagnerrp: | it seems a local frontend will scan the filesystem directly, rather than querying the backend to do so |
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| [19:11:11] | williammanda: | hello folks |
| [19:12:28] | williammanda: | I was looking to get some help on the "failed to scan SG video hosts" |
| [19:13:09] | williammanda: | using 0.25...can supply front and backend logs |
| [19:14:05] | wagnerrp: | is all your video content on one host? |
| [19:15:00] | williammanda: | yes |
| [19:15:20] | wagnerrp: | and you have a Videos directory defined there? |
| [19:15:30] | williammanda: | yes a SG |
| [19:15:41] | williammanda: | video SG |
| [19:15:44] | wagnerrp: | are you running up to date code, where up to date is something compiled today |
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| [19:16:40] | williammanda: | I get it through mythbuntu.....hold on |
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| [19:17:24] | williammanda: | v0.25pre-4589-gf4a1079 |
| [19:18:05] | williammanda: | got it yesterday I believe |
| [19:21:04] | williammanda: | 1st ...I'm trying to figure out if it is a programming issue that needs to be worked out (if it is...I will wait for the fix) or my system has a problem |
| [19:21:16] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [19:21:37] | wagnerrp: | that subsystem is being rewritten to behave more like the recording storage groups, will fallthrough to the master host |
| [19:22:16] | williammanda: | so I should wait for a couple of updates? |
| [19:22:31] | wagnerrp: | probably best, it is developmental code after all |
| [19:22:59] | williammanda: | no problem....I actually enjoy the process |
| [19:23:16] | williammanda: | learn more about the product |
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| [19:24:17] | williammanda: | one other question.... |
| [19:24:27] | wagnerrp: | shoot |
| [19:24:38] | williammanda: | how is the progress of vaapi for sandy bridge? |
| [19:24:47] | wagnerrp: | no idea on that one |
| [19:25:00] | wagnerrp: | should work, but then you shouldnt need it anyway |
| [19:25:02] | brit: | Wagnerrp was that the same problem I am experiencing |
| [19:25:14] | wagnerrp: | brit: seems very likely |
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| [19:25:40] | brit: | Oh ok, So I should revert back to stable? And with SG in .24 I need to share them via nfs correct? |
| [19:25:57] | wagnerrp: | you cannot revert the database |
| [19:26:04] | brit: | Il do a clean reinstall |
| [19:26:08] | wagnerrp: | schema updates are only programmed to go forward, not backward |
| [19:26:22] | brit: | of the distro |
| [19:26:37] | williammanda: | wagnerrp, ty for your help |
| [19:27:04] | brit: | Thanks for helping me wagnerrp I apreciate it! |
| [19:28:22] | williammanda: | what's up with torc? |
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| [19:34:09] | wagnerrp: | williammanda: basically, one of the devs split off due to bureaucratic reasons, and make his own froc that he can do whatever he wants with, without requiring consensus of differing minds |
| [19:34:38] | stuartm: | williammanda: a developers private branch basically |
| [19:34:42] | williammanda: | is torc the name? |
| [19:35:14] | wagnerrp: | there are somewhere around 50 different private forks on github currently |
| [19:35:20] | stuartm: | it's the name assigned to the repo, because they need to be given a name |
| [19:35:40] | wagnerrp: | this is basically just a prolific one from a former dev |
| [19:36:08] | wagnerrp: | while most of the others only produce a handful of commits, if any |
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| [19:37:35] | stuartm: | basically it appears someone got their facts wrong and ran off to Phoronix with a story about the MythTV project splitting, only that's mis-representing the case (as the dev in question would tell you himself) |
| [19:38:07] | wagnerrp: | likely someone who has some hate of mythtv |
| [19:38:17] | wizbit: | Torc? |
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| [19:39:16] | wizbit: | holy lords iamlindoro is in that channel :-S |
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| [19:54:47] | ServerSage: | Oh sweet merciful Jesus is SchedulesDirect slow. 8K/s, I feel like I'm back in the old 56K modem days. |
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| [20:18:13] | ServerSage: | So for some reason when i click "Fetch channels from listings source" I'm only getting 3 channels when I should be getting like 60. SD shows all the channels as enabled. Any ideas? |
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| [21:02:27] | [R]: | wtf, tehy still sell 8400gs'... that's ridiculous |
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| [21:35:05] | brit: | Wagnerrp I figured out what was wrong |
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| [21:46:15] | williammanda: | what? |
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| [22:22:49] | k-man: | i've build this mac homebrew formula to build mythtv on OSX, it seems to work in that it builds a binary that works, but rendering video is terribly slow |
| [22:23:05] | k-man: | could it be that its using the wrong opengl or video drivers or something? |
| [22:28:17] | justinh: | dekarl1: having seen the crap fluendo have done to my windows desktop machine since installing their cruddy moovida I don't think I'll be entertaining any ideas of using their stuff again |
| [22:29:41] | justinh: | change file associations? CHECK. Install a crummy toolbar which invades a browser with ads? CHECK. Sets your default search engine to something insane? CHECK. I expect to be asked permission for that kind of stuff. Sick & tired of 'free' apps hosting junk like that |
| [22:30:49] | justinh: | still, with a decent GPU I expect it's well worth all the aggro |
| [22:30:56] | justinh: | meh |
| [22:31:18] | justinh: | k-man: shouldn't you be using quartz on a mac? |
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| [22:34:01] | k-man: | justinh, nfi :) |
| [22:34:27] | k-man: | justinh, i don't think that the official build of mythtv uses quartz does it? |
| [22:35:34] | justinh: | support is included AFAIK |
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| [22:36:01] | justinh: | about the only thing you're not guaranteed to get is accelerated decoding IIRC |
| [22:40:27] | k-man: | i have run mythtv from precompiled binaries before on this mac, and its fine at decoding, but this build i made seems to be very slow |
| [22:43:19] | k-man: | http://pastie.org/3410660 |
| [22:43:29] | k-man: | lots of "waited 100ms for video buffers" |
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| [22:56:33] | skd5aner: | I'm kinda surprised the torc thread on the ml has gotten so little attention... although that's probably a good thing, no need for it to turn into a giant rumor mill and "guess" factory |
| [22:57:21] | skd5aner: | that said, a thread about the head parking issue with WD green drives that has been known for ~3 years has over 70... so, you never know what's going to take off on the -users ml |
| [22:58:51] | justinh: | I was a little surprised too. And nobody has really come out of the woodwork to whine, which is nice |
| [23:13:41] | justinh: | oh man, doing a search on twitter makes me want to yell at people I've never talked to before |
| [23:14:59] | justinh: | "YES! MythTV Is Now Forked As Torc. Hope developmentspeed will increase now"... GRRRRRRRRRR. Need to shout "Yeah? WHERE IS ALL THE CODE YOU CONTRIBUTED YOU IDIOT?" |
| [23:15:44] | k-man: | justinh, which thread is that? |
| [23:15:59] | k-man: | oh, nm, found it |
| [23:16:44] | k-man: | who is the "lead dev"? |
| [23:17:30] | justinh: | "one of the" |
| [23:17:57] | justinh: | there are only 2 names on the torc project, so take your pick ;-) |
| [23:18:14] | k-man: | yeah right |
| [23:19:11] | justinh: | I'm happy to sit on the fence with this one, but I'd love to know what goes through the mind of people trying to cling onto old tech for the sake of supporting users with 15 year old hardware |
| [23:20:21] | justinh: | open source is kinda funny though. at one end you've got people yelling for more shiny, faster faster everything – and on the other end you've got people who want all that to work the same way it always has, with their 386DX box |
| [23:20:35] | justinh: | oh & lest we forget the people who want it both ways LOL |
| [23:21:31] | k-man: | hehe |
| [23:22:43] | justinh: | mythtv has a lot of stuff in it I really wouldn't miss, but to some people, you'd have to pry those features from their cold, dead hands. poor souls |
| [23:23:34] | justinh: | whatever mythtv does it'll never end up as awful as moovida. :-P |
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| [23:28:00] | justinh: | 1. ditch the qt painter. 2. get rid of analogue support. 3. yada yada yada |
| [23:28:59] | justinh: | can we get 'phoronix' renamed to 'moronix' please? |
| [23:29:21] | justinh: | "Compared to XBMC MythTV is rather dated and this move by the lead developer sure paves the way for a better more modern MythTV as well as some competition between the two projects. ". GRRRRRRRRRR. |
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| [23:29:56] | justinh: | competition? WTH difference does competition make? XBMC is a pretty file browser |
| [23:30:25] | ** justinh notes for future reference... being on the internet after having had a 'few' drinks is seldom a good idea ** | |
| [23:32:59] | justinh: | still though, a small handful of moaning comments ain't bad. things have been much worse. search the gossamer archive for 'usability report'. Ooooh |
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| [23:35:13] | justinh: | ROFL "I like giving quizes to family members tho....If they dont answer |
| [23:35:13] | justinh: | correctly I get to take a limb. My brother scoots around on a |
| [23:35:13] | justinh: | skateboard using a stick in his mouth now; he wont forget the |
| [23:35:23] | justinh: | keybindings again." |
| [23:39:03] | justinh: | Good God. Re-reading that whole thread again where Jono thought the whole of the mythtv dev community were jumping on him – I think there was only ONE real dev in the thread who commented & that was to thank him for taking the time |
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| [23:46:11] | stuartm: | Ubuntu Jono? |
| [23:47:07] | stuartm: | oh right, yeah, the usability stuff |
| [23:51:26] | justinh: | heh on reflection, that lambasting wasn't a patch on some of what happens in internet land. not as bad as some people made out it was anyway |
| [23:52:33] | justinh: | then I ponder "wow, how long did it take me to go from thinking 'That guy who closed my ticket for not including any information is a DOUCHE' to 'KILL THEM ALL FOR NOT HAVING ANY CLUE' ?" |
| [23:55:22] | justinh: | ENOJACKDANIELS |
| [23:55:36] | justinh: | only a bottle of Baileys left, and it went out date in October 2010 |
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