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| [00:07:42] | gizmobay: | I'm running MB 10.04. It seems to freeze up about every 10 days. Would like to run a script that reboots it once a week but would like to do it when it's not recording. |
| [00:07:58] | gizmobay: | Will mythshutdown help me |
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| [01:16:26] | RagingMind: | dekarl, most of the ones in the downloader are for widescreen displays and look weird on my SDTV |
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| [04:18:07] | wagnerrp: | mmmm.... http://www.betabeat.com/2011/12/13/in-which-e . . . -on-facebook |
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| [05:01:55] | iamlindoro: | yikes |
| [05:03:27] | iamlindoro: | I am not sure I have the patience to write all the things wrong with this |
| [05:05:05] | wagnerrp: | like all the spelling and grammatical errors on the part of the journalist? or things from moglen you disagree with? |
| [05:06:01] | wagnerrp: | the way he presents it makes him look like a nut, but i agree with the principle he is trying to get across |
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| [05:09:21] | wagnerrp: | or is this bad stuff in #10250? |
| [05:10:12] | iamlindoro: | the latter |
| [05:11:28] | wagnerrp: | another yikes, someone trying to get HDMI audio working on a GT430 on CentOS 5 |
| [05:11:54] | wagnerrp: | i dont even think CentOS 6 is sufficiently new to make that work easily |
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| [05:33:14] | iamlindoro: | There, I did it |
| [05:33:25] | iamlindoro: | Now watch me get flamed for taking the time to review the patch |
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| [05:42:21] | wagnerrp: | i dont think that was at all unreasonable |
| [05:44:27] | iamlindoro: | Well I didn't think so either :) |
| [05:44:38] | iamlindoro: | But there are a lot of people out there who don't take kindly to patch review |
| [05:44:43] | iamlindoro: | i.e., "take it or leave it" |
| [05:45:33] | iamlindoro: | There *are* some good ideas here, and some stuff I've wanted to do but never got around to it-- but I started working towards making MythGame consistent with the other plugins and don't want to set that back either |
| [05:47:28] | iamlindoro: | I can't figure out for the life of me why he decided to set the host on the image downloads |
| [05:47:57] | wagnerrp: | like... actually set the host? |
| [05:48:02] | wagnerrp: | he put his own hostname in there? |
| [05:48:04] | iamlindoro: | The only condition under which I could see that working is if the MBE's fan art, screenshot, and cover art SGs were mounted on the FE as the local dirs for MythGame |
| [05:48:19] | iamlindoro: | m_lookup->SetHost(gCoreContext->GetMasterHostName()); |
| [05:48:51] | iamlindoro: | By setting a hostname, you are in effect telling the metadata classes "This content is hosted on Storage Groups, download to that host and put in those SG dirs" |
| [05:49:06] | iamlindoro: | problem is, neither the images nor the games in MythGame support Storage Groups |
| [05:49:11] | wagnerrp: | probably because he wanted them shared, but since the game content had to be local, he had nowhere to force it but the master |
| [05:49:53] | wagnerrp: | unless you want to have some funky thing where the games are stored on the SG, and downloaded to some local temporary path for playback |
| [05:50:09] | wagnerrp: | you would have to do something like that to use the image storage groups |
| [05:50:10] | iamlindoro: | the problem with that is, it relies on an the user to have mounted the BE artworks dirs at the path in the local setting for MythGame artwork |
| [05:50:24] | iamlindoro: | and for you to only have one path in those SGs |
| [05:50:26] | wagnerrp: | true, as it is now, it simply doesnt work |
| [05:54:04] | iamlindoro: | And actually, I don't even think the above would work-- since the imagery download returns a collection of downloaded artwork from which you derive the final filename |
| [05:54:17] | iamlindoro: | local downloads return a full path, SG ones return a relative path |
| [05:55:01] | iamlindoro: | so forcing a download to the master BE would return a relative path, that's what'd be inserted in the DB, and with no SG support in MythGame it wouldn't work at all |
| [05:55:17] | iamlindoro: | Which makes one wonder if he even tested that part |
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| [08:06:57] | dchilton: | sanity check ... i *can* exec a copy of mythtv-setup on my desktop to configure a mythbackend on another box, right? i don't have to exec mythtv-setup ON the backend box, do I? |
| [08:08:44] | wagnerrp: | it must be run on the backend |
| [08:09:09] | wagnerrp: | many of the options in mythtv-setup are host-specific |
| [08:09:19] | wagnerrp: | so if you run it on the wrong box, they will be set for the wrong box |
| [08:09:38] | wagnerrp: | you CAN forward mythtv-setup to a remote server |
| [08:09:45] | wagnerrp: | remote X server |
| [08:09:56] | wagnerrp: | but the executable must be running on the box you want to configure |
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| [08:17:44] | dchilton: | wagnerrp: aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh! er, ok. thx. |
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| [08:37:44] | slacker-: | hi guys |
| [08:38:10] | slacker-: | I just installed mythbuntu-desktop on my otherwise freshly installed system |
| [08:38:48] | slacker-: | i'm getting the following error in x-0-greeter.log |
| [08:38:59] | slacker-: | [+0.02s] DEBUG: Connected version=1.0.6 default-session=mythbuntu hide-users=false has-guest-account=false |
| [08:39:02] | slacker-: | [+0.02s] CRITICAL: Settings schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background' is not installed |
| [08:39:20] | slacker-: | and X won't start |
| [08:52:54] | slacker-: | I don't understand why it would want the gnome stuff with greeter-session=unity-greeter |
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| [08:54:38] | Peitolm: | one of the ubuntu channels may be a better place to ask, if mythbuntu doesn't have its own. It doesn't look like a mythtv issue to me |
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| [08:55:26] | slacker-: | I just came from #ubuntu :/ |
| [08:55:32] | Beirdo: | now... if only Sony's esupport site weren't down! |
| [09:02:00] | Beirdo: | I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. To bed! |
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| [10:08:34] | jolaren: | Any Swedish guy who wants to buy my dvb-t equipment? :) |
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| [10:49:28] | ahhughes_: | hi guys, is it possible to prioritize tuners? |
| [10:51:01] | ahhughes_: | I've got x4 tuners and they kinda work.. but i will upgrade to a playtv tuner. But what I want is the playtv tuner used first... because its more reliable (and by unreliable I mean, the aerial input jack is a bit too sensitive). |
| [10:53:10] | Peitolm: | ?? |
| [10:53:16] | Peitolm: | to answer your question, yes, |
| [10:53:32] | Peitolm: | but are you saying that your current 4 tuners are too sensitive? |
| [10:58:53] | ahhughes_: | the current x4 tuners have dodgy aerial jacks (hardware issue) |
| [10:59:02] | stuartm: | buy an inline attenuator, costs a couple of £ |
| [10:59:10] | ahhughes_: | wtf is that? |
| [11:00:18] | ahhughes_: | oh no, I need to explain this... the aerial is a micro connection... not your normal size (like on a playtv aerial or an F connection) and basically, its crap. |
| [11:00:19] | stuartm: | well if as Peitolm asked your tuners were too sensitive an attenuator would have reduced the signal strength to a more workable level |
| [11:00:38] | stuartm: | but that's not your problem, so ... :) |
| [11:00:38] | ahhughes_: | if I could rip them apart and get the soldering iron out I might fix them, but this is not going to happen. |
| [11:01:01] | stuartm: | ahhughes_: you can assign a priority to each tuner |
| [11:01:08] | stuartm: | in mythtv-setup |
| [11:01:10] | ahhughes_: | signal strength is either ~60% or 0%. |
| [11:01:29] | ahhughes_: | cool thanks stuartm .. that means I wont throw the others out just yet :) |
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| [11:11:56] | ahhughes_: | well, Im basically set on my myth install now.. except for one little problem. I can't find an equvalent to winamp! |
| [11:12:21] | ahhughes_: | Im thinking about running a VM for just this purpose! |
| [11:12:31] | ahhughes_: | either that or try out XBMC... |
| [11:14:59] | Peitolm: | xmms |
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| [11:26:05] | stuartm: | ahhughes_: equivalent in what way? Plays music? Or plays streamcast type feeds? |
| [11:26:39] | ahhughes_: | I want decent library options like, dynamic playlists, searching of playlists and enqueing. |
| [11:27:11] | ahhughes_: | closest is rhythmbox, but it crashes every single time :'( |
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| [11:31:11] | ahhughes_: | that last indiana jones movie was a horrible horrible blemish on the other three, was it not? |
| [11:38:21] | stuartm: | absolutely – George Lucas strikes again, especially with cute/goofy CGI creatures |
| [11:39:04] | stuartm: | ahhughes_: mythmusic is being re-written in 0.25, right now I believe it offers everything you've mentioned |
| [11:39:28] | stuartm: | 0.24 does have dynamic playlists (called smart playlists) |
| [11:39:35] | ahhughes_: | I dont see any of that. |
| [11:39:53] | ahhughes_: | I dont even see how I can search |
| [11:39:57] | stuartm: | s/right now/right now in git/ |
| [11:40:03] | stuartm: | ahhughes_: press menu |
| [11:40:43] | stuartm: | first or second option in the context menu for 0.24 is the search option |
| [11:41:00] | stuartm: | actually, the first is the 'Smart Playlists' feature |
| [11:41:11] | stuartm: | so it's the second in the list |
| [11:41:18] | ahhughes_: | ok, I will try this all out tomorrow night (before I open a bottle of wine). But the UI could do with some serious improvement... but I am a java guy. C aint my thing. |
| [11:41:33] | stuartm: | ahhughes_: it's been re-written in 0.25 :) |
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| [11:42:00] | stuartm: | s/been/being (still a work in progress but vastly improved)/ |
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| [11:44:06] | ahhughes_: | its one of those things that.. you can't scale out the 1080 screen to BIG components. You need all the details present and not have to push keys/buttons to get a "search" input up, or the enqueued list. By hey, I am 51% idiot. |
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| [11:49:27] | stuartm: | ugh, they've really screwed up KDevelop, it just gets in your way all the time now :( |
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| [11:51:22] | ** quicksilver has never really *got* IDEs ** | |
| [11:51:29] | quicksilver: | I suspect that to be good they need to be really really good |
| [11:51:40] | quicksilver: | anything less and you're better off with simple modular tools you understand |
| [11:56:04] | stuartm: | quicksilver: neither do I – I don't use any of the build stuff etc from Kdevelop, I don't actually understand how anyone could work in such a restrictive setting, but I couldn't work solely in vi/emacs either, kdevelop has some basic capabilities which save me a lot of time |
| [11:57:09] | quicksilver: | I use emacs and when I see opportunities to save time I write tools (or find tools) to do them for me |
| [11:57:26] | quicksilver: | since I'm a programmer it makes sense to have a system I can extend by programming ;) |
| [11:57:32] | quicksilver: | I'm sure KDevelop is extensible too, of course |
| [11:57:41] | stuartm: | that is it used to save me time, they seem hell bent on making the experience worse with each subsequent release, they've completely crippled the 'project' functionality to the extent that I don't know why anyone would bother with it |
| [11:57:42] | quicksilver: | but it would take me some time to learn how to do that. |
| [12:00:22] | stuartm: | quicksilver: also as a programmer I cannot fathom wasting time I could spend working on my primary project by writing my own editor/ide :) At some point you have to work with what's available if you want to get any work done at all, but I'll concede that the point is different for everyone |
| [12:01:01] | quicksilver: | stuartm: but the point is, I don't write an editor ;) |
| [12:01:17] | quicksilver: | I write a quick function to automated "annoying editing task number six" which I keep doing |
| [12:01:26] | quicksilver: | and over a few years you build up tricks. |
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| [12:03:17] | stuartm: | I could use something to carry on conversations in IRC when I really should be working ;) |
| [12:05:25] | quicksilver: | :) |
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| [12:13:12] | Peitolm: | anyone know if i can apply a timing offset to a tuner? VM seems to be a few mins early |
| [12:16:32] | toeb: | Peitolm: set the clock of the vm |
| [12:17:06] | Peitolm: | i wish, in this instance VM = Virgin Media, |
| [12:17:10] | Peitolm: | not virtual machine |
| [12:17:20] | toeb: | oh sorry |
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| [15:53:10] | ontae: | hi ... any recommendations for a cheap digital tuner card with DVB-S2 and DVB-T ... ? |
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| [16:37:55] | stuartm: | Peitolm: which channels? Minutes is a significant deviation from the schedule |
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| [18:10:12] | Unguided: | Hello All. Quick question: Im using the onboard video card to watch live tv. its an ati something. Im using the HD homerun prime. Im getting vertical lines through the screen. is it safe to assume it is because of the onboard card. |
| [18:11:05] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [18:11:31] | Oleg_: | hi |
| [18:11:44] | Unguided: | Thats what I thought. Thanks Wagnerrp. It was just as you said an uphill battle. |
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| [18:54:45] | wizbit: | a nvidia card with a low TDP will run coolest, ideal for a HTPC, here is a useful list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nv . . . e_500_Series |
| [18:55:48] | wizbit: | the GeForce 210 looks ideal :D |
| [18:56:50] | Unguided: | I have an nvidia gt 430. I installed it and now the SD channels are clear but the HD channels still have the lines. Any ideas? |
| [18:57:18] | wizbit: | lines? |
| [18:57:24] | Unguided: | Yep |
| [18:57:30] | wizbit: | what kind of lines? |
| [18:57:45] | Unguided: | Vertical |
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| [18:58:25] | wizbit: | make sure you are using latest nvidia blob, check your modeline is correct |
| [18:59:02] | wagnerrp: | are you using software or hardware decoding? |
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| [18:59:30] | Unguided: | Im using the HD homerun prime with an nividia gt430 Vid card |
| [18:59:39] | wagnerrp: | are you using software or hardware decoding? |
| [19:00:14] | Unguided: | I dont know how to check or set that wagnerrp. sorry. help me out |
| [19:00:54] | wagnerrp: | if you dont know, then you never altered it, meaning youre probably using a bad stock decoder |
| [19:01:12] | wagnerrp: | frontend playback settings, not entirely sure where |
| [19:01:25] | wagnerrp: | you want to be using either 'Slim' or 'VDPAU High Quality' |
| [19:01:51] | Unguided: | stand by |
| [19:02:42] | wagnerrp: | there are known issues with the libmpeg2 decoder that you could be suffering from |
| [19:03:59] | wagnerrp: | sphery: seems when Sony announced they were dropping OLED, its because they were going to shift into LED TVs |
| [19:04:17] | wagnerrp: | not the LED-backlit LCD tripe you see advertised as an LED TV |
| [19:04:35] | wagnerrp: | but a real, true LED TV, with six million little tiny LEDs on a giant panel |
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| [19:07:12] | Unguided: | wagnerrp: Damn you are good. Someone else told me to change that herre but i forgot what they told me to change it to and where. lines gone. Awesome. Thank you |
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| [19:13:57] | wizbit: | can vdpau be used to off load SD as well as HD ? |
| [19:14:15] | wagnerrp: | why wouldnt it? |
| [19:14:21] | wizbit: | double ace :D |
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| [19:14:24] | wizbit: | i wasnt too sure |
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| [19:15:58] | Unguided: | Slim works well. VDPAU High quality stutters. VDPAU Normal stutters occasionally. So far. Still Testing |
| [19:16:46] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: i might as well use my main server / backend if all the video is off loaded to the GPU, it will not effect the performance of my server |
| [19:17:32] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, you shouldnt be using slim |
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| [19:17:50] | wagnerrp: | Slim is basically what is supposed to work in all situations |
| [19:18:00] | wagnerrp: | but it uses Xvideo for rendering, which is outdated tech |
| [19:18:20] | wagnerrp: | if youre going to be using software decoding, you should be using the opengl renderer |
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| [19:23:33] | wizbit: | this is what i will need to go HD |
| [19:23:34] | wizbit: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=A7mMWQaT |
| [19:25:09] | wagnerrp: | you cant currently buy LED televisions |
| [19:25:29] | wagnerrp: | and you would be well off waiting a couple months for the hard drives |
| [19:25:49] | wagnerrp: | and scrap the raid controller, its garbage anyway |
| [19:27:04] | Unguided: | Im testing all the "modes" to see which one works best for me with hi def. Ironically, Slim seems to work the best. VDPAU High quality, Normal and slim stutter |
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| [19:29:57] | wagnerrp: | Unguided: switch Slim to use opengl rather than xvideo |
| [19:30:14] | wagnerrp: | or create a whole new profile using the 'standard' decoder and opengl |
| [19:30:31] | wagnerrp: | s/xvideo/xv-blit/ |
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| [19:31:16] | Unguided: | ok. stand by |
| [19:33:27] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: its just a controller, i will be using software raid mdadm |
| [19:36:38] | Unguided: | wagnerrp: is that the command i should type? |
| [19:38:08] | wagnerrp: | wizbit: then just get a controller, or better yet, use the one on the motherboard |
| [19:41:40] | ** lis0r has been considering transitioning her server's array to software raid ** | |
| [19:42:05] | lis0r: | raid controller's really crimping my upgrade path :/ |
| [19:42:17] | wagnerrp: | what card do you currently have? |
| [19:42:27] | lis0r: | and it's still empty enough that it'd be possible to switch without losing data |
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| [19:42:55] | lis0r: | 3ware 9550sx 8 port |
| [19:43:05] | OyVayBob: | Hi – I'm using the latest trunk but am seeing "AutoExpire: Filesystem Info cache is empty, unable to determine what Recordings to expire" |
| [19:43:14] | wagnerrp: | ah, real raid card |
| [19:43:27] | wagnerrp: | not the software raid like the highpoint card wizbit listed |
| [19:43:33] | OyVayBob: | I see there was a patch for this about 15 months ago, for .24, would this already be in trunk? |
| [19:44:01] | wagnerrp: | OyVayBob: all of that code is different in trunk |
| [19:44:07] | lis0r: | yeah, problem is it's PCI-X :/ makes it difficult to upgrade without spending large amounts of money |
| [19:44:11] | wagnerrp: | so any patch made to 0.24 would not be applicable |
| [19:44:23] | wagnerrp: | and any flaw that existed in 0.24 would probably not affect trunk |
| [19:44:46] | wagnerrp: | well, you could plug it into a standard PCI slot, enough boards still use those |
| [19:44:52] | wagnerrp: | *cough* *cough* |
| [19:45:18] | wagnerrp: | sorry, that was a bit hard to choke down :) |
| [19:46:10] | OyVayBob: | I haven't seen any other recent mentions of this "Info cache is empty" issue so perhaps it's my hard drive or the permissions that's causing it? Show's definatly aren't autoexpiring like they used to. |
| [19:47:13] | lis0r: | wagnerrp: iirc, whilst that should in theory work, it doesn't |
| [19:47:16] | lis0r: | not that I've tried it |
| [19:47:22] | lis0r: | just remember reading it somewhere |
| [19:47:43] | wagnerrp: | lis0r: i have used PCIX cards in standard PCI slots |
| [19:48:05] | wagnerrp: | im using an old PCIX intel gige card in one of my machines |
| [19:48:09] | lis0r: | yeah, it's that particular card, rather than PCI-X in general, that has the issue |
| [19:48:37] | wagnerrp: | but, not all cards are guaranteed to be backwards compatible like that |
| [19:48:59] | wagnerrp: | and you will be limited to 133MB/s on the whole bus, including any other cards or hardware that may be connected through it |
| [19:49:25] | wagnerrp: | not the dedicated 500MB/s or so youre used to |
| [19:54:51] | wagnerrp: | ive got an aging ARC-1230 i plan to migrate over to ZFS RAID one of these days |
| [19:55:27] | wagnerrp: | but its pretty well full with somewhere around 8TB of data, and im not enthusiastic about buying all new hard drives at current prices |
| [19:59:51] | wagnerrp: | luckily its PCIe, so ive been able to carry it across five years and three separate backends |
| [20:04:28] | OyVayBob: | Is there a way to manually kick off all the autoexpire rules for my existing recordings so I can test things? |
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| [20:07:13] | wagnerrp: | OyVayBob: thats not how it works |
| [20:07:22] | wagnerrp: | the autoexpire rules are always running, all the time |
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| [20:07:39] | wagnerrp: | its a housekeeping duty on the master backend |
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| [20:07:53] | wagnerrp: | it runs something like every 15 minutes, and checks the amount of free space on the drive |
| [20:08:17] | OyVayBob: | wagnerrp: ok thanks, just not sure why the autoexpires are failing on me now with "AutoExpire: Filesystem Info cache is empty, unable to determine what Recordings to expire" |
| [20:08:28] | wagnerrp: | if the current free space is below the set limit, it decides to expire something |
| [20:08:45] | wagnerrp: | the set limit being 10GB by default |
| [20:09:19] | OyVayBob: | autoexpire would be the term used when I only want one recording of a show, so it deletes the existing previous day's recording right? |
| [20:09:19] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, the filesystem info cache is something intended to maintain how much freespace is available on various slaves |
| [20:09:40] | wagnerrp: | such that when you check the amount of free space on the status page, or info center, or provided by the relevant theme option |
| [20:09:50] | wagnerrp: | that information is immediately available |
| [20:10:03] | wagnerrp: | rather than having to run through each defined backend to measure and tally it |
| [20:10:23] | wagnerrp: | why your cache is not being populated, and you are getting that error, i dont know |
| [20:10:36] | wagnerrp: | what youre talking about is something different |
| [20:10:56] | wagnerrp: | that is when you set a maximum recording limit for a rule, and tell it to expire old to allow new |
| [20:11:07] | wagnerrp: | that operates independently of auto-expiration |
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| [21:09:49] | StevenR: | hmm...will mythfrontend run on arm hardware? |
| [21:11:46] | wagnerrp: | yes* |
| [21:11:56] | devinheitmueller: | StevenR: Theoretically yes, but it won't be able to talk to any video hardware, which brings into question how useful that would be. |
| [21:12:24] | StevenR: | devinheitmueller: won't be able to talk to any video hardware? |
| [21:12:50] | devinheitmueller: | StevenR: On pretty much all of the ARM devices out there, interacting with the video output uses proprietary drivers and nonstandard interfaces. |
| [21:13:13] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: seems a lot of them are buying into the OpenMAX interface |
| [21:13:30] | devinheitmueller: | ... especially for for anything that requires hardware acceleration of MPEG2/H.264. |
| [21:13:36] | StevenR: | (I'm specifically talking about the raspberry pi) |
| [21:13:53] | StevenR: | sorry, should have been clearer |
| [21:13:59] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend will run on the raspberry pi... poorly |
| [21:14:02] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: that's questionable. Indeed some are suggesting support for OpenMAX but I doubt you will see anything viable for 2–3 years. |
| [21:14:21] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, lack of hardware decoding support means youre relying on the CPU for all decoding |
| [21:14:40] | wagnerrp: | and that CPU is a previous generation ARM v7, at 700MHz |
| [21:14:49] | StevenR: | ahh |
| [21:14:53] | devinheitmueller: | (and the host CPUs on those embedded platforms don't have the horsepower to do compressed video decoding...) |
| [21:14:56] | wagnerrp: | several times slower than the already inadequate CPUs you might find in higher end tablets |
| [21:15:23] | wagnerrp: | even if you were capable of decoding the video, youre still stick with 256MB (or worse 128MB) |
| [21:15:36] | wagnerrp: | both of which are really too little to run the frontend at high resolutions |
| [21:16:01] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: apparently chutt was involved with writing the openmax interface for the original tegra |
| [21:17:56] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: sorry, I don't know who "chutt" is. |
| [21:18:22] | wagnerrp: | fearless leader, isaac richards |
| [21:18:28] | devinheitmueller: | Ah, ok. |
| [21:18:29] | wagnerrp: | former... anyway |
| [21:18:39] | wagnerrp: | hes been pretty much idle the past two years or so |
| [21:19:48] | wagnerrp: | he has mentioned he would be available to advise markk, should he get up the motivation (and free time) to work on an openmax renderer in mythtv |
| [21:20:44] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: nice. |
| [21:20:51] | devinheitmueller: | That said though, it's a nontrivial exercise. |
| [21:21:05] | devinheitmueller: | .... and there has to be some pretty good incentive to take on such a large project. |
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| [21:22:15] | wagnerrp: | he actually has one or two ARM dev boards hes been using for the OpenGLES stuff |
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| [21:32:10] | StevenR: | ok... thanks. |
| [21:35:13] | StevenR: | for a frontend, I'm hoping to put together something ideally fanless for my parents... is a dual-core atom board (ion chipset) enough, or do I need to go for something beefier, and if so, how beefy? |
| [21:36:16] | StevenR: | (the backend will be much more powerful, and they only receive standard UK freeview TV) |
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| [21:42:54] | wagnerrp: | it will work, but its preferable to have enough CPU to decode whatever you are going to encounter |
| [21:43:49] | StevenR: | so something like a low-end core 2 duo or similar would be better, plus a couple of gigs of ram? |
| [21:44:50] | wagnerrp: | sure |
| [21:46:21] | ** StevenR wonders how easy it would be to build one that's fanless ** | |
| [21:46:46] | justinh: | not very |
| [21:46:54] | justinh: | big slow fan is better than no fan |
| [21:47:07] | ** StevenR nods ** | |
| [21:47:35] | justinh: | mind, I have a C2D mobile for my frontend. Ordinary HSF, cranked way down low. Doesn't get hot unless I compile or try to play h.264 HD |
| [21:47:50] | justinh: | pretty darn near silent |
| [21:48:01] | StevenR: | hmmmm. that's an idea, a mobile chip |
| [21:48:24] | justinh: | don't have to these days do you? Not with improved TDP & all that |
| [21:48:49] | justinh: | modern CPUs just *eat* complex video for breakfast if they're not *encoding* it |
| [21:50:43] | wagnerrp: | well thats not true |
| [21:50:48] | wagnerrp: | ARM and Atom are modern CPUs |
| [21:51:31] | justinh: | heh I meant *proper* CPUs. not those paper efforts |
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| [21:57:06] | justinh: | bloody horizon. BORING unless it's on 1.4x timestretch |
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| [22:03:10] | StevenR: | ok. thanks again. time to hunt for a suitable system (it also has to pass the Mum Acceptance Factor) |
| [22:05:27] | justinh: | heh |
| [22:06:00] | ** justinh wonders. if you have to play a show at 1.5x speed for the narrator & most of the people in it to sound normal speed, how slow do they speak in real life? ** | |
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| [22:28:08] | skd5aner: | justinh: I've watched every episode of "The Colbert Report" (1098 according to my mytweb stats page) at 1.4x. Anytime I hear him talk in "real-time" speed now I feel as though he's severly lethargic from being high or having a stroke or something... |
| [22:28:33] | justinh: | lol |
| [22:29:21] | clever: | lol |
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| [22:35:29] | skd5aner: | So, if I've watched 1098 episodes, at 30 minutes each – that's 32,940 minutes or 549 hours. |
| [22:35:44] | skd5aner: | If I conservatively assume that there's 6 minutes of commercials, that commskip skips, then that's 439.2 hours, or 109.8 hour saved. |
| [22:36:06] | skd5aner: | If I include that what I've played back is at 1.4x, then that would mean I'm watching 24 mins of the show in 19.2 minutes, meaning another savings of 87.84 hours. |
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| [22:36:21] | skd5aner: | Meaning MythTV has saved me over 197.64 hours on that show alone |
| [22:38:09] | skd5aner: | and I've never missed an episode* |
| [22:38:19] | skd5aner: | (* except when I had hardware failure a few times) |
| [22:38:23] | skd5aner: | there's a testiment to the power of MythTV if I've ever heard one |
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| [23:17:42] | autojack: | what are people using for remotes these days? I have a one-for-all JP-1 remote but my wife finds it annoying. do I just have to buy a $100 Logitech Harmony or what? :) |
| [23:18:40] | RagingMind: | autojack, the cable provider in my area hands out remotes for their set top boxes, I just used lirc and one of those |
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| [23:18:49] | autojack: | hmm. |
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| [23:19:38] | autojack: | yeah the main problem with mine is the age old "change all the inputs for what I'm trying to do" problem. |
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| [23:19:51] | RagingMind: | took a little setup, but worked great. it works with their normal set top boxes and the dvr ones, so it had all the buttons you'd expect |
| [23:19:56] | autojack: | nod. |
| [23:20:27] | autojack: | the idea that the Harmony remotes can walk you through troubleshooting until all the devices are set right is compelling. |
| [23:21:04] | autojack: | though it kind of blows my mind still that A/V technology has achieved what it has, but the remotes still suck. |
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| [23:25:47] | autojack: | also I thought I was being clever by configuring my jp-1 remote to emulate an IR keyboard so I could ditch LIRC, but a lot of times the keyboard inputs get stuck on instead. |
| [23:25:55] | autojack: | unless you aim the remote very carefully. |
| [23:26:05] | autojack: | I keep thinking, it's 2012! there's got to be a better way! :) |
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