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Current users (157):

abqjp, adante, akv, aloril, andreax, Anduin_, AndyCap, Anomaly`, anykey_, bbee, Beirdo, benc_, Bhaal, BLZbubba_, bonelifer, brfransen, cafuego, cal_, Captain_Murdoch, cesman, ChanServ, CiaranG, clever, Cougar, d00gster, d0netsFN, damaltor, Dave123, davide, dekarl, DeviceZer0, dkeith__, dlblog, earthnative, Eddie70, emmanuelux, EvilGuru, felipe`, flexnsniff, Floppe, freeh, G, gholmlund, ghoti, gpd, grantm, gregL, GreyFoxx, grumpydevil, Guest18934, hadees, Heliwr, hoolio, iamlindoro, ikevin, infojunky, J-e-f-f-A, jamesd2, jams, jarle, jbrett, jcarlos, jduggan, JEDIDIAH__, jedix, jkfod, jm|laptop, johnf1911, josef__, jpabq, jstenback, justdave, justinh, k-man, KaZeR, keith4, kenni, kloeri, knightr, Krusedulle, kurre2, kwmonroe, LabMonkey, lapion, larrikin_, likwid--, limbert, lotia, M0nk3Ee, mag0o, Meliorator, MilkBoy, mirage33-, MissionCritical, Moscherkobold, Muzer, mycosys, MythLogBot, mzanetti, mzb, npm, nutron, okolsi, oobe, Peitolm, peterpops, pheld, pigeon, prologic, purserj, quentusrex_, quicksil1er, rellig, rhpot199`, rsiebert, rumblebumble, russell5, sailerboy, Scopeuk-AFK, ServerSage, Shadow__X, sid3windr, simcop2387, skd5aner, Slasher`, sphery, squidly, sraue, StevenR, styelz, sulx, sutula, tank-man, Technophil, tgm4883, thefRont, ThisNewGuy, tlhiv_laptop, toeb, tomimo, trijezdci, tris, troyt, Twiggy2cents, ubIx, Unhelpful, uW, wahrhaft_, wizbit, XDS2010_, xrdodrx, xris, zCougar, zombor, [R], _abbenormal, _charly_
Sunday, December 18th, 2011, 00:00 UTC
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[00:28:58] iamlindoro: Beirdo: Do you want to respond to this "no ivtv in .25" thread and explain that you're using a 2250 with master right now? It's getting a little silly in there
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[00:37:19] wagnerrp: just now getting?
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[00:39:02] ** iamlindoro sends an e-mail he may regret **
[00:39:38] iamlindoro: The "I'm gonna go use VDR" frankly falls on deaf ears-- I have never heard "I am gonna go use 'x'" and not thought "Go ahead, please do!"
[00:39:44] ** wagnerrp looks for an email he may enjoy reading **
[00:40:01] iamlindoro: Someone should tell him VDR is for digital reception, so good luck using it with ivtv
[00:40:56] wagnerrp: for what its worth, master is tagged 0.25_pre
[00:41:06] iamlindoro: It's still not ".25"
[00:41:12] iamlindoro: It's not even .25pre
[00:41:15] iamlindoro: it's master
[00:41:20] iamlindoro: we could tag it "boobies"
[00:41:27] iamlindoro: it would still be master, and there would still be no .25
[00:42:11] [R]: mmm
[00:42:12] [R]: boobies
[00:42:20] ** wagnerrp switches to the MythTV Boobies branch **
[00:42:32] wagnerrp: wait a minute... all the mythtv developers are men
[00:42:35] iamlindoro: git checkout boobies
[00:42:37] wagnerrp: that one might not be so hot
[00:42:44] iamlindoro: so appropriate
[00:43:19] wagnerrp: moobies!
[00:44:06] iamlindoro: Not on this dev
[00:45:33] wagnerrp: just because theyre flat doesnt mean theyre not there
[00:45:43] wagnerrp: dont be ashamed of their size
[00:46:08] iamlindoro: I would argue that they're not moobs until they're more fat than muscle :)
[00:47:04] ** iamlindoro needs to find New Zealand lodging tonight... **
[00:47:25] iamlindoro: well, not *for* tonight, but rather find it tonight, for later
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[02:33:40] ** skd5aner is spending saturday night going through -firehose... **
[02:34:04] skd5aner: halfway through oct now
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[03:33:11] skd5aner: woot – done with Oct
[03:33:56] ** wagnerrp is halfway through Dec **
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[03:38:00] wagnerrp: pity...
[03:38:23] wagnerrp: was going to make a joke about user XXX remaining in September eternally
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[03:38:38] wagnerrp: but it seems bonilifer is the only user to ever log in from an AOL address
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[04:54:40] Beirdo: iamlindoro: will do in a few. Been one of those busy days :)
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[05:48:17] flexnsniff: I have a question:
[05:48:45] flexnsniff: Changing storage directories? Just going in and editing them seems to break it.
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[05:55:53] [R]: "break" what? and what are you changing
[05:57:45] sphery: flexnsniff: in mythtv-setup, changing them should just work
[05:57:54] flexnsniff: Really?
[05:57:57] flexnsniff: Ughhhh
[05:58:00] sphery: you will need to restart the backend (like mythtv-setup tells you it can't be running)
[05:58:09] flexnsniff: Yeah, mythtv-setup, storage directories
[05:58:12] flexnsniff: Of course, I have
[05:58:19] flexnsniff: Stopped it as a service and started it
[05:58:29] flexnsniff: And suprisingly, I started as my own user
[05:58:33] flexnsniff: and as sudo
[05:58:38] flexnsniff: and it worked both ways that time
[05:58:52] flexnsniff: What are the file ownership/permissions supposed to be on the new directories?
[05:58:59] sphery: so, is it working or not working, now?
[05:59:09] flexnsniff: It's working, but not as a service
[05:59:21] flexnsniff: (i assume service is running as wrong user thus permissions etc)
[05:59:21] sphery: the directories must be rwx by the user who runs mythbackend
[05:59:26] sphery: yeah, likely
[05:59:29] sphery: what distro?
[05:59:34] flexnsniff: ubuntu 10.04.3lts
[05:59:41] sphery: I think they use a mythtv user
[05:59:50] sphery: and a video group?
[05:59:52] flexnsniff: Yeah, its set to that.
[06:00:00] flexnsniff: mythtv:mythtv is what i thought
[06:00:06] flexnsniff: I tried to match the old dir's
[06:00:07] sphery: make sure it /and/ all the directories leading up to it allow mythtv access
[06:00:14] sphery: (directories in the path must be x)
[06:00:18] sphery: for mythtv
[06:00:31] flexnsniff: Huh
[06:00:40] flexnsniff: You lost me that far, lol
[06:00:54] sphery: if you put the videos in /some/directory/path/videos
[06:01:05] flexnsniff: exectue on all leadining dirs /these/ones/here/mythtvnew/
[06:01:08] sphery: then mythtv user must have x permission on /some, and /some/directory and ...
[06:01:32] sphery: how about showing us the actual path and an ls -ld on all dirs leading up to it on a pastebin, please
[06:01:33] flexnsniff: Does rsync copy permissions?....
[06:01:53] sphery: only if you run rsync as root
[06:01:55] flexnsniff: Give me a few.
[06:01:57] flexnsniff: Yes i can.
[06:02:04] flexnsniff: So that'd be much easier, i'm sure
[06:04:14] sphery: also maybe a backend log showing a live tv failure
[06:04:43] sphery: and, btw, if you changed live tv storage group directory list, which backend did you change it on? master or remote backend?
[06:10:57] flexnsniff: No need, solved.
[06:11:31] flexnsniff: Chmod of my /media/NewDrive was incorrect
[06:11:37] flexnsniff: And chown, I believe.
[06:11:53] sphery: yay, glad it's working
[06:11:55] sphery: enjoy
[06:12:35] flexnsniff: Lol. Re-Enjoy. Just wiped my server cause I wanted to go backwards to 10.04, and need to reconfig now.
[06:13:29] flexnsniff: I do need to learn more about master/slave backends though... oh well. Not today =D
[06:14:19] sphery: IMHO, only good reason to have slave backends is if you can't (physically or electrically) fit enough HDDs or tuners in the master
[06:14:38] sphery: that said, I have a slave for both of those reasons
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[06:21:53] sphery: wagnerrp: have you sent the letter to Public Knowledge, yet?
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[06:26:51] wagnerrp: i sent it at the beginning of the month
[06:26:53] wagnerrp: no response
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[06:29:16] sphery: ah, was hoping they'd responded so we could post some news in the dvd playback thread
[06:40:49] flexnsniff: Arhg, I just got screwed downgrading.
[06:40:58] flexnsniff: Version mismatch with my Win32 frontend now.
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[06:50:37] flexnsniff: yeah, 10.04 looks likes it comes with 0.23 of some sorts
[06:50:59] flexnsniff: just added the repo so now im grabbing 0.24.1
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[07:05:56] flexnsniff: Updated from repo = Fixed.
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[12:38:13] MnF: Hi, wondering if anyone can tell me how to enable the ivtv cards in mythbackend using the ebuilds on git for 0.24...
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[12:50:25] MnF: for the log, found a bug report with lack of ivtv based cards in card options fixed in a later ebuild
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[14:27:18] Unguided: Hello All. Im installing mythbuntu for the first time ever for any linux distro. just wondering if myth is easier to use from a management standpoint if i install a desktop with it. Example, I dont even know how to add a hard drive to linux. Thanks for hte opinions in advance.
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[16:14:28] bonelifer: I'm using mythnuv2mkv.sh which works great on my PVR-500 recordings. Just got a HDHomeRun. The first video(HDHomeRun) I've ran through mythnuv2mkv has the video stuck on the first clip in the video and the sound is several times faster than normal in the resulting file. not sure what's going on here.
[16:19:09] trijezdci: can somebody give me pointers what kind of hardware is required to remote control a satellite tuner (switching channels etc) directly from a MythTV box
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[16:24:39] Eddie70: Hi, everyone.
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[16:25:20] Eddie70: Is it possible to make a lossless transcode of a hdpvr recording? (just honoring the cutlist?)
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[16:26:19] Eddie70: I used to run mythnuv2mkv without problem, but lately the transcodings are useless (the output skips frames) and I just disabled transcoding.
[16:26:48] bonelifer: I see this on the Wiki: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Iamlindoro
[16:27:18] bonelifer: Eddie70 ^^
[16:27:41] Eddie70: Thanks! I will try it. But do you know if there has been a change in the transcode options lately?
[16:28:32] bonelifer: no, actually I'm here for a problem I'm having with the HDHomeRun and mythnuv2mkv script
[16:29:27] Eddie70: So, a common factor, mythnuv2mkv...
[16:29:50] bonelifer: it works great with my PVR-500 recordings, but the HDHomeRun shows the first frame throughout the video file and the sound is speed up considerably
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[16:48:51] Eddie70: bonelifer, what version of mythtv do you have?
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[16:49:30] Eddie70: I run master.
[16:50:29] bonelifer: mythbuntu 11.10 – mythtv .24.1
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[17:27:59] brockp: So I have upgraded my HT setup to use a dedicated preamp, and switched to using optical for audio, but now when playing music I get random stuttering like poping noise,
[17:28:21] brockp: My preamp is seeing Dolby Digital, which is funny beause the material is mp3 320kbps
[17:28:43] brockp: If I play a DVD that has ac3 native it also sees dolby digital but no stuttering/poping noise
[17:29:41] brockp: Any thoughts? Also for music playback of MP3/Flac really sterio PCM over optical would be fine which is what I was doing until I enabled the 'dolby digital' and 'DTS' in myth settings
[17:30:25] kenni: Has anyone come across a USB or single slot PCI DVB-T tuner with integrated hardware CAM and Linux support? I've spend several evenings looking for one without much luck – Technotrend CT-3650 looks like a candidate, but CI support was just added to the kernel 2 months ago, so no user reports are to be found in the wild yet
[17:33:48] bonelifer: kenni seen this: http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/dvbt/
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[17:42:00] kenni: bonelifer: Yep, I've purchased several of them and have one at home, but I need integrated hardware CAM support for this new tuner.
[17:44:18] bonelifer: is CAM another name for cablecard?
[17:44:27] skd5aner: well – the EU equivalent so to speak
[17:44:32] kenni: exactly
[17:45:36] brockp: Well found in music playback settings that I had upmix to 5.1 checked, disabling this sends stereo PCM out optical, and I allow my Marantz preamp to do the upmixing
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[17:57:09] flexnsniff: Having issues with /dev/video0 assignment. seems to be too many different ways of doing it for me to figure it out myself
[17:57:38] flexnsniff: I've got a hvr-1600? i think. uses cx18 driver, and a usb video cam, uses uvcvideo driver
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[17:58:33] flexnsniff: Also have another card i'd like to put it, but until I can assign /dev/videoX static i cant add the third one >.<
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[18:40:46] Unguided: Hello All. Im a newb to linux ubuntu and mythtv. My questions is does it make it any easier to set up manage and or configure mythbuntu if you have a regular desktop installed like kubuntu, ubuntu, etc? Also, I do not even know how to add a hard drive to the system post initial install
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[18:42:22] kenni: Unguided: no, just download the Mythbuntu iso, that's the easiest way to get started
[18:43:01] Unguided: kenni: ok. thank you for your inout.
[18:48:55] skd5aner: iamlindoro: since bonelifer brought up your old hdpvr cut script, I thought I'd play around with it, but for some reason, STARTKEYFRAME and ENDKEYFRAME variables aren't getting populated correctly. CUTLIST returns something which I believe is valid – "-4861–7531"
[18:49:51] skd5aner: but STARTKEYFRAME is always blank
[18:50:30] skd5aner: for whatever reason, this line isn't parsing the string correclty or the string that it's being fed is incorrect – STARTKEYFRAME=`echo $i | cut -d '-' -f 1`
[18:51:38] iamlindoro: skd5aner: I have not used or touched that script in years, and don't advocate its use (nor provide any support for it)
[18:52:16] skd5aner: any alternatives that you use/are aware of/do advocate? :)
[18:52:26] iamlindoro: No, none that I'm aware of
[18:52:58] iamlindoro: It was written against .22, and our cutlist format has changed since them, so it's unlikely to work against anything modern
[18:53:33] iamlindoro: not as is, anyway
[18:53:45] skd5aner: yea – knew it was a gamble... thought I might be able to toy around with it and see what worked/didn't work
[18:54:33] skd5aner: I can't even get past the basic part of parsing the output... heh
[18:54:56] skd5aner: It might work otherwise – I'll keep on plugging on my own – thanks
[18:55:11] iamlindoro: np, good luck
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[19:29:16] Hans1974: Hey everybody, I'm strugling to get a 'watch TV' out of my mythtv setup, playing with all the settings isn't working (finding the correct parameters). I just installed XawTV and I get my TV-channels displayed, meaning that my TV-card is working. I know that analog scanning is not working with my card (HVR-1300), but manual tuning should work... any ideas to find correct parameters? Thanks.
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[20:00:05] flexnsniff: Erg, weird problem now. Added my old tv tuner card (saa7134) and getting weird vertical lines
[20:00:10] flexnsniff: more of a v4l question but
[20:00:39] flexnsniff: I didnt think mythtv set v4l options? just auto-detected or w/e
[20:07:03] Hans1974: At my side it's not pure noise, it's more structured, like colored chinese signs on a black background.
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[21:34:39] Hans1974_: .
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[21:53:48] esperegu: hi. I have a dual card. however mythtv is showing 4 encoders. When I want to watch something and record simultaniously it uses encoder 1 and 2 but it crashes. How can I make sure it uses the 2 encoders that are actually in the system?
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[22:08:17] justinh: esperegu: go into mythtv-setup , enter tuner settings, then under each part of the card (tuner 1 & tuner 2) in turn go into recording settings & turn the max # recordings per tuner down to 1 from the default of 2
[22:08:56] esperegu: justinh: thx. any idea why it might be crashing?
[22:10:19] justinh: nope
[22:10:27] justinh: logs are handy for stuff like that
[22:12:57] esperegu: thx
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[22:33:28] [R]: oh man, ticket 10211 sounds awesome... "i own a standalone be/fe box"... hrm, could have gotten confused there and thought he was renting it
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