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| [00:01:31] | Muzer: | hmm, not according to that site you just linked to :/ |
| [00:01:54] | Muzer: | Input priority — in the "mythtv-setup" program, the "Input Connections" section allows you to add additional priority in the "Input priority". This is simply another priority factor but has an interesting effect. If a card input has a higher value than the other cards, the scheduler will see that you would rather record showings of episodes on this input rather than a showing on other inputs. |
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| [01:09:02] | sphery: | Muzer: "This is simply another priority factor" |
| [01:09:08] | sphery: | priority determine which shows record |
| [01:09:21] | sphery: | both I and the page are saying the same thing |
| [01:09:37] | sphery: | most people misinterpret the page and miss the effects of changing input priority |
| [01:09:57] | sphery: | feel free to do so, but don't complain when MythTV records a show you kind of like and skips your favorite show |
| [01:10:25] | sphery: | but there's absolutely no reason to use input priority if you just configure your system properly... |
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| [01:22:30] | IanWizard-Cloud: | Hi all :D |
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| [01:25:09] | ahhughes: | Just had to logon to tell other Australian's, this looks like an awesome deal for htpc @ $550 i3, GT520, 4GB, 1TB http://www.dealfox.com.au/ |
| [01:25:15] | ahhughes: | next 2hrs only |
| [01:25:38] | ahhughes: | If I didnt just blow $280 on a case I'd grab one |
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| [01:40:56] | IanWizard-Cloud: | Perhaps this is the wrong chan for this, perhaps the devs channel would be better. I'm designing (nothing purchased yet), a system, to go through my cable box, and keep a running FIFO-y, buffer on a drive, right after the cable box. Then have Myth use that buffer as the tv input source. How should I go about that? Or rather, *can* I do that without completely writing it all by hand... |
| [01:41:37] | sphery: | why not use standard equipment to do that? |
| [01:42:04] | sphery: | IanWizard-Cloud: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Recording_Digital_Cable |
| [01:42:50] | sphery: | and since mythtv actually records to HDD, doesn't seem like you'd need another HDD in th emix |
| [01:43:55] | IanWizard-Cloud: | Let me simplify this.... Cable comes in, get split into an undetermined number of cable boxes (or whatever ends up being needed for that, still in the air a bit), Then, I will have a ~1tb drive for each, that will be used as a buffer, and then, (and this will be across the network, buffer drives will be networked). |
| [01:44:20] | sphery: | well, mythtv is networked |
| [01:44:24] | sphery: | records to drives... |
| [01:44:31] | sphery: | still not seeing why you need something else |
| [01:44:45] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [01:45:10] | IanWizard-Cloud: | Myth TV then should be able to somehow A). get the live tv off of that, and then (possibly in the future), be able to search into the buffer, to record things that have already started. |
| [01:45:17] | sphery: | I have 6 tuners that can record 6 channels at once, and any computer in my house can watch recordings from any of those tuners |
| [01:45:28] | sphery: | (where computer can be hooked to a monitor or TV or ..) |
| [01:45:34] | IanWizard-Cloud: | sphery: I want to get a buffer for every channel, (and tuner / cable box) |
| [01:45:49] | sphery: | you could just tell mythtv to record everything |
| [01:46:06] | sphery: | and automatically expire it by age or priority |
| [01:46:07] | sphery: | or ... |
| [01:46:16] | wagnerrp: | IanWizard-Cloud: why do you want to record everything that comes in on every cable box? |
| [01:46:19] | wagnerrp: | what good is that? |
| [01:46:42] | wagnerrp: | the idea is you let mythtv control the cable boxes, it records the things you tell it to, using those cable boxes |
| [01:46:48] | wagnerrp: | and then you play back the content at some later time |
| [01:46:55] | IanWizard-Cloud: | sphery: wagnerrp: overkill... is underrated. |
| [01:47:15] | sphery: | still, you can overkill with standard equipment and standard mythtv |
| [01:47:20] | IanWizard-Cloud: | wagnerrp: this way I have a several hour (depending on format), buffer of every channel. |
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| [01:48:00] | wagnerrp: | rather, you get a buffer of those specific channels you have your cable boxes tuned to |
| [01:48:04] | IanWizard-Cloud: | sphery: I'm getting a box with a 750g drive for the media server, but I want a much bigger buffer :) |
| [01:48:15] | sphery: | IanWizard-Cloud: I have 1789 programs, using 7.3 TB (2 months 10 days 19 hrs 26 mins) out of 10 TB (3.2 TB free). |
| [01:48:57] | sphery: | i.e. if I started playing back all my recordings with no gaps and stopped recording new stuff, it would be 2mos and 10 3/4 days before it finishes playing them |
| [01:49:09] | sphery: | and that's actually stuff I told it I would like to watch |
| [01:49:19] | sphery: | rather than "whatever garbage they broadcast in the last X hours" |
| [01:49:48] | sphery: | meaning if you set up mythtv, you're likely to get way more content than you can possibly watch even if you don't have a running buffer of everything |
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| [01:50:20] | IanWizard-Cloud: | I've got to go real quick, I'll be back later to finish, sorry :( |
| [01:50:22] | sphery: | but, again, mythtv can record everything from as many channels as you have available tuners |
| [01:50:34] | sphery: | and deal with expiring old stuff |
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| [01:50:44] | sphery: | so you wouldn't really nead anything else |
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| [02:11:28] | skd5aner: | Most cable co's do allow you to start from the begining of a show anyway – even if you don't have a DVR |
| [02:11:45] | skd5aner: | depends on the network and maybe the show |
| [02:11:52] | skd5aner: | I don't know, never used the feature |
| [02:12:12] | skd5aner: | but, using mythtv to do it that way seems like that would be the overkill... recording everything... |
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| [03:13:12] | skd5aner: | So... I've decided... I really want to try my hand a learning to program (again) |
| [03:13:51] | skd5aner: | s/a/at |
| [03:14:16] | skd5aner: | Just trying to decide where/how to start learning c++ (and OOP in general) |
| [03:15:20] | wagnerrp: | is this a first time into OOP? |
| [03:15:26] | skd5aner: | any advice? |
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| [03:16:25] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: well, I had a course in Java a long time ago – so I understand the very basics, but it's safe to say I'm starting from scratch |
| [03:17:06] | skd5aner: | and I was pretty decent at VB and ASP back in the day |
| [03:17:11] | skd5aner: | but, I know that's vastly different |
| [03:22:12] | ** skd5aner hears crickets ** | |
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| [04:41:09] | Blaksmith: | hrm.. after today's update of mythtv, the PS3 can't watch Myth any more .. comes back saying the file is missing.. but if I go view it with the frontend in ubuntu, it is there and plays fine... |
| [04:41:26] | Blaksmith: | this was an update from 20111116 build to today |
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| [04:50:31] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you know anything about interleaving stdout and stderr? |
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| [05:05:43] | [R]: | wagnerrp: you mean 2>&1 ? |
| [05:07:12] | wagnerrp: | i mean the code to make that happen, not the shell command to tell it to happen |
| [05:07:52] | [R]: | you should be more precise then |
| [05:07:54] | [R]: | :P |
| [05:21:09] | larrikin_: | precisely |
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| [06:15:12] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: normally, it's something to the note of: |
| [06:15:53] | Beirdo: | dup2(1, 2); |
| [06:16:03] | Beirdo: | in C-land |
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| [06:23:37] | sphery: | wagnerrp: rumor has it you may have missed Bones, tonight |
| [06:23:48] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [06:24:17] | sphery: | I heard some parts of Ohio had a, er, Browns out during Bones |
| [06:24:39] | Beirdo: | Hopefully you are out of radius of those fools |
| [06:25:01] | sphery: | Beirdo said his cousin's area (closer to Cleveland) didn't show it |
| [06:25:09] | Beirdo: | I'd think that half a mile from the stadium should be outta radius :) |
| [06:25:24] | Beirdo: | You should hear her and her friends complain :) |
| [06:25:39] | sphery: | I'm guessing the station will re-air it on weekend time, maybe |
| [06:25:46] | sphery: | since that's one of the big Fox shows |
| [06:25:54] | Beirdo: | Browns vs Steelers. Hehe. |
| [06:26:06] | Beirdo: | and they are kinda in range of both teams almost |
| [06:26:48] | wagnerrp: | are you saying the cleveland/pittsburgh game ran long? |
| [06:26:48] | Beirdo: | still, you explain to some NFL-hating Bones-loving TV fans why this should ever happen. |
| [06:26:56] | Beirdo: | sounds like it |
| [06:27:23] | Beirdo: | she tuned in for Bones and got #$@#$ing football. :) |
| [06:27:24] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:28:01] | wagnerrp: | is there a comment on the mailing list that im missing? |
| [06:28:20] | Beirdo: | no, it was my cousin loudly complaining... on Facebook of all places :) |
| [06:29:11] | Beirdo: | started with: Fox8 is the worst. Newsflash: not all people in Cleveland care about the Browns-Steelers rivalry. The fact that you cancelled Bones for a football game is inexcusible. It's not like it's the Super-freakin-Bowl!!!!!!!!!! Grrrrrr |
| [06:29:15] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [06:29:46] | sphery: | hehe |
| [06:29:47] | wagnerrp: | who won? |
| [06:29:57] | Beirdo: | the almighty $$$ won |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | duh :) |
| [06:30:01] | ** wagnerrp bets on pittsburgh ** | |
| [06:30:02] | sphery: | it basically mirrors the CBS rant from the list a couple months ago |
| [06:30:08] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [06:30:29] | Beirdo: | I remember times Fox cancelled new Simpsons episodes for NFL |
| [06:30:32] | Beirdo: | repeatedly |
| [06:30:46] | Beirdo: | and Simpsons is by FAR their most popular show |
| [06:30:53] | sphery: | yeah, or went to "already in progress" shows |
| [06:31:10] | sphery: | wagnerrp: seems you should have made that bet before the game |
| [06:31:28] | Beirdo: | a commercial slot in Simpsons, however was still considerably cheaper than one in an NFL game |
| [06:31:34] | ** wagnerrp cant imagine the hell that would be raised on Short Vine if cleveland had one ** | |
| [06:32:29] | wagnerrp: | there was a big steelers bar a block away from my old apartment |
| [06:32:57] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:33:42] | Beirdo: | anywho, I think I'm gonna do something odd... go to bed early for once |
| [06:34:34] | dekarl: | which reminds me to setup some recordings so you don't have to ;) |
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| [06:37:19] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:39:57] | dekarl: | Whats the best way to group some recordings for easy export? A Recording Group "Moar Ads"? |
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| [07:52:05] | larrikin_: | we need less shows like Bones and more shows like Breaking Bad .. |
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| [16:44:20] | crak: | hi all |
| [16:44:58] | crak: | i installed mythbuntu on a zotac zbox id41 and i configured iptv correctly |
| [16:45:07] | crak: | my prob is hdtv |
| [16:45:22] | crak: | can i somewhere set the buffer-size? |
| [16:46:29] | crak: | i use alice-iptv (germany) |
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| [17:58:23] | dekarl: | crak, IIRC the buffer size is dynamic on 0.25-master, on 0.24-fixes see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#Filters |
| [17:58:48] | crak: | dekarl: thanks |
| [17:59:47] | dekarl: | have you connected a xmltv grabber to your network recorder? Did you use the mythtv extension to the playlist? |
| [18:00:41] | dekarl: | basically with a playlist like in this example http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Dekarl/How_to . . . ke_a_Freebox |
| [18:02:35] | crak: | dekarl: there is an official m3u out from my ISP |
| [18:02:55] | dekarl: | cool, got a link to some reference? |
| [18:03:26] | crak: | http://www.ard-digital.de/files/27/67/116/Hansenet_vlc2009x.zip |
| [18:04:21] | dekarl: | oh, the ARD playlist... thought Alice does provice something |
| [18:04:44] | crak: | ? |
| [18:05:49] | dekarl: | ARD provides playlists as a service. I though your provider was providing something. |
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| [18:09:12] | crak: | http://www.iptv-anbieter.info/ip-tv-forum/sho . . . te-TV-Sender |
| [18:09:14] | crak: | ok |
| [18:09:18] | crak: | have to go |
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| [18:09:56] | dekarl: | hmm, couldnt ask where he gets his guide from (EIT via IPTV or XMLTV) and if they don't carry HD :( |
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| [18:57:52] | Blaksmith: | hrm.. after yesterday's update of mythtv, the PS3 can't watch Myth any more .. comes back saying the file is missing.. but if I go view it with the frontend in ubuntu, it is there and plays fine... |
| [19:01:30] | wagnerrp: | did you ask this a while back? seems like i read the same question before |
| [19:01:44] | Blaksmith: | last night, but nobody answered.... |
| [19:01:54] | Blaksmith: | the last time I had the issue with the PS3, it was the PS vs TS recording setting |
| [19:02:09] | Blaksmith: | that setting fixed that .. that was a week or 3 back |
| [19:02:32] | Blaksmith: | the one with the PS vs TS setting was "corrupted data" .. not "missing" |
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| [19:11:35] | larrikin_: | do zotac make anything with integrated DTV or which could have at least a low profile pcie installed ? |
| [19:13:00] | TimeWolf: | webos is now opensource? |
| [19:13:26] | wagnerrp: | larrikin_: if youre speaking of a backend using an Atom, dont bother |
| [19:13:50] | wagnerrp: | if instead youre speaking of one of their Core2/i3 boards, you can use USB and network attached capture devices |
| [19:14:00] | larrikin_: | wagnerrp why's that ? |
| [19:14:20] | wagnerrp: | the atoms, they have no powah |
| [19:14:43] | larrikin_: | wagnerrp you're talking to the wrong guy .. |
| [19:14:59] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [19:15:05] | larrikin_: | I still use a pentium-m to play standard def |
| [19:15:49] | wagnerrp: | thats fine, playback resolution has nothing to do with the demands of the database and scheduler |
| [19:16:46] | larrikin_: | who knoew that reading and writing tables in a database was so cpu intensive.. |
| [19:16:52] | larrikin_: | *knew |
| [19:17:31] | wagnerrp: | anyone who has ever made any significant use of a database |
| [19:18:45] | wagnerrp: | looking up single key/value entries is nothing, and not really something that would necessitate a database anyway |
| [19:18:46] | Blaksmith: | hmm.. could a "Locale" variable cause the PS3 to not see the files for whoever knows what reason? just saw something in the logs: "This application expects to be running a locale that specifies a UTF-8 codeset, and many features may behave improperly with your current language settings. .. |
| [19:19:14] | wagnerrp: | no, the real performance needs go when searching with complex terms, and joining multiple tables on multiple fields |
| [19:19:33] | Blaksmith: | first time I have seen that fly by ... |
| [19:19:53] | wagnerrp: | thats just a warning in regards to the metadata grabber scripts |
| [19:20:14] | wagnerrp: | if you have any unicode characters in shows that you look up, such as characters with accent marks, umlauts, etc... |
| [19:20:22] | wagnerrp: | they work better if you have your terminal set to unicode |
| [19:20:30] | Blaksmith: | ok |
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| [19:23:18] | Blaksmith: | hmm, ok, little more info .. on the PS3, there is no picture for the shows that state that the files are missing.. and in the backend, I get: E GetPreviewImage: no recording for start time Fri Dec 9 08:00:00 2011" |
| [19:26:53] | Blaksmith: | when I hit play on the PS3, the one with no thumbnail says that the file or folder is missing ... and there is no error on the back end at that time |
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| [20:05:59] | sphery: | Blaksmith: definitely needs to be set properly for any http-based access of files |
| [20:06:06] | sphery: | (which includes UPnP) |
| [20:06:15] | sphery: | i.e. fix your configuration |
| [20:06:18] | sphery: | then see if it works |
| [20:07:35] | FabriceMG: | the last update of 0.25 doesn't work well in livetv , the picture completly distorted :( |
| [20:07:39] | sphery: | Blaksmith: was the recording you selected actually recorded at Fri Dec 9 08:00:00 2011 or is that offset by some amount (likely some amount that's related to your UTC offset) |
| [20:09:17] | FabriceMG: | but if we watch a recorded , it's work perfectly |
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| [20:18:51] | Blaksmith: | sphery, sorry, got pulled away for a min .. but it looks like the ones that errored out, there was no actual recording.. so, can ignore that |
| [20:19:10] | sphery: | ok |
| [20:19:15] | sphery: | and the times were actually correct? |
| [20:20:07] | Blaksmith: | the times look correct.. the one recorded at 09:00:00 was listed, but when hit play on the PS3, it said the dir was missing .. |
| [20:20:55] | Blaksmith: | about the UPnP stuff, I had to tell my router to disable that .. and I have not changed anything else on the box except having to upgrade yesterday, which I have now locked ubuntu, so it won't upgrade again (unless I tell it) |
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| [20:23:18] | Blaksmith: | but, that shouldn't matter for internal stuff.. if things want to use UPnP routing inside, it should be fine.. |
| [20:24:14] | Blaksmith: | I also do "not" have mythweb installed |
| [20:24:55] | wagnerrp: | upnp and mythweb have nothing to do with each other |
| [20:25:11] | Blaksmith: | ok, because you said something about http-based access... so..... |
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| [20:26:51] | iamlindoro: | Update and recompile |
| [20:26:51] | sphery: | Blaksmith: I meant that PS3 accesses recordings using UPnP (not the UPnP that your router uses to allow devices to reconfigure the router/firewall, but the UPnP that's used for accessing media from a system on the network) |
| [20:28:26] | Blaksmith: | sphery, ok... so, where would the setup be ... on the ps3 or on the box running the backend? sorry, I'm having a brain fart on things today |
| [20:28:42] | sphery: | in theory there's no setup |
| [20:29:10] | Blaksmith: | in mythtv-setup, I do have "UPnP Server Settings" set to "Recordigns" .. which should be fine .. as far as I can tell |
| [20:29:10] | sphery: | it's "Universal* Plug-n-Play" (*though not really as Universal as it would imply) |
| [20:29:44] | sphery: | I was just saying that since UPnP uses HTTP to access media, you need to set up the UTF-8 environment, properly, or things will fail |
| [20:30:04] | sphery: | (that's the only reason UPnP becomes important--didn't explain that part well) |
| [20:30:09] | Blaksmith: | ok, so, the statement I said earlier about the locale issue, MAY be part of it |
| [20:30:24] | sphery: | i.e. you're using upnp, so you need to set up your environment for UTF-8 for proper functionality |
| [20:30:53] | sphery: | well, until you fix that, I wouldn't waste time trying to investigate any issues with UPnP :) |
| [20:30:56] | iamlindoro: | It's a "please update and recompile" issue |
| [20:30:57] | Blaksmith: | wagnerrp mentioned that it really shouldn't matter, so I left it at that .. but ok, you are saying that I may need to make sure that it is set |
| [20:31:05] | sphery: | right |
| [20:31:28] | sphery: | it's used for various things--and metadata stuff is a primary usage--but it also comes into play with other things such as UPnP |
| [20:31:32] | Blaksmith: | iamlindoro, no, it is NOT a please update and recompile |
| [20:31:57] | iamlindoro: | yes, it really is |
| [20:32:11] | sphery: | just that many fewer people use UPnP than metadata stuff, so it isn't as commonly seen an issue with UPnP |
| [20:32:47] | sphery: | Blaksmith: iamlindoro means check the -commits list |
| [20:32:56] | sphery: | and then update and recompile |
| [20:33:20] | sphery: | and while you're at it, also please fix your application environment for mythtv apps to be UTF-8 |
| [20:33:23] | sphery: | :) |
| [20:33:28] | sphery: | (2 separate things happening here) |
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| [20:34:05] | stevieman: | How do I find the version of mythtv that I am running? |
| [20:34:06] | kormoc: | Blaksmith, https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/0cb3e . . . c08ab392804a (note the author) |
| [20:34:35] | Blaksmith: | I updated yesterday ... so, unless there was a new fix for something regarding UPnP like you are saying, I don't feel there is a need to update from 1 day ago.. a recompile.. yah, maybe if I have a bad setting.. but not a new update |
| [20:35:02] | kormoc: | Blaksmith, iamlindoro just committed a fix for your issue 7 minutes ago |
| [20:35:12] | stevieman: | Is there a way to auto grab the details for movies in myth? |
| [20:35:27] | sphery: | yes, this is why people running unstable code need to watch the -commits list :) |
| [20:35:54] | Blaksmith: | ok, so that one was posted 9 min ago ... |
| [20:36:27] | sphery: | stevieman: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Metadata_Lookup + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Mass_Metadata_Grabbing |
| [20:36:45] | sphery: | Blaksmith: yes, posted just before iamlindoro told you to update and recompile :) |
| [20:36:49] | stevieman: | sphery: cool thanks |
| [20:36:55] | Blaksmith: | ok iamlindoro, will update :D |
| [20:37:40] | Blaksmith: | ok, looks like gentoo auto update is pulling in the new hash .. |
| [20:39:05] | stevieman: | Is there a known problem with Myth Video and the Meta data? When I manually do an update I get the plot but in most cases no cover image. I had cover images before I moved the files to a new HD. |
| [20:44:23] | wagnerrp: | how are you accessing these videos? local paths or storage groups? |
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| [20:46:22] | Blaksmith: | ok, locale issue fixed before compiling ... time to twiddle thumbs for a little bit hehe |
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| [20:48:55] | Blaksmith: | hrm.. emerge is showing: Missing digest for '/usr/local/mythtv_portage/Gentoo/media-tv/mythtv/mythtv-0.25_pre20111209.ebuild ; ... I haven't made an ebuild digest in a LONG time |
| [20:49:22] | wagnerrp: | when you run that ebuild generator, it automatically digests |
| [20:49:41] | sphery: | I'm seriously hating github, now |
| [20:49:42] | wagnerrp: | it has to or else portage wont accept the new ebuild |
| [20:49:51] | sphery: | I need to see the changes in a specific file in a specific changeset and it's not showing them |
| [20:49:52] | Blaksmith: | it shows 09 ... but emerge is only showing 07 .. |
| [20:50:04] | sphery: | because it knows it would DoS my system since it's a huge change |
| [20:50:09] | wagnerrp: | because for some reason, the ebuild does not exist |
| [20:50:42] | sphery: | "2036 additions, 3506 deletions not shown" |
| [20:50:55] | sphery: | gee, thanks github... changes that big are probably irrelevant, anyway |
| [20:51:27] | Blaksmith: | yah, that's what I'm thinking .. that it isn't for who knows what reason .. |
| [20:53:15] | Blaksmith: | 09 exists in the directory |
| [20:53:35] | wagnerrp: | oh, backwards |
| [20:53:41] | wagnerrp: | the file exists, but no digest entry for it |
| [20:53:43] | sphery: | wagnerrp: do you have any idea how to see the specific changes in playbackbox.cpp in https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/0b2af . . . 3369e8234da7 |
| [20:53:53] | wagnerrp: | try mythtv-buildebuild --digest-only |
| [20:54:18] | sphery: | nvm, I'll just use git since github is so broken |
| [20:54:25] | Blaksmith: | ok, it's nabbing things |
| [20:54:47] | wagnerrp: | HAHAHAHA |
| [20:54:53] | wagnerrp: | "not shown" |
| [20:55:07] | Blaksmith: | hmm, trying to pull in 20111030 ? heh |
| [20:55:57] | Blaksmith: | hrm.. Error(s) in metadata for 'media-tv/mythtv-0.25_pre20111209' |
| [20:56:07] | Blaksmith: | SLOT: invalid value: '' |
| [20:56:37] | wagnerrp: | Blaksmith: if the current version of the script tries to write a new ebuild to the same name as an existing one, it will destroy it |
| [20:58:12] | wagnerrp: | sphery: theres always 'git show 0b2af32af9a mythtv/programs/mythfrontend/playbackbox.cpp |
| [20:58:17] | wagnerrp: | not pretty and colored, but... |
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| [20:59:40] | sphery: | yeah, I just did a git diff for it |
| [21:00:37] | sphery: | just hate having a web view that's unusable (between the DoS'ing with JavaScript and the "I'll just not show you this part so I only lock up your browser for a minute instead of a minute and ten seconds", it's really annoying) |
| [21:00:44] | wagnerrp: | is there any reason why we dont close out stderr/stdout when we daemonize? |
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| [21:01:13] | sphery: | and that's ignoring things like having changeset hashes on trac that don't link to changesets in github (because they're a different repo) and having old SVN revision numbers in trac that don't link to a changeset |
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| [21:01:33] | sphery: | and having ticket numbers in github that don't link to tickets in trac |
| [21:02:02] | sphery: | and all commit messages failing to get into trac--meaning we can't search on commit messages without gossamer |
| [21:02:05] | sphery: | and ... |
| [21:02:23] | sphery: | anyway, git is fine... github, not so much... github + trac, really annoying |
| [21:02:33] | TimeWolf: | boo trac yay redmine |
| [21:02:47] | TimeWolf is now known as joemyth | |
| [21:03:09] | wagnerrp: | joemyth, eh? |
| [21:03:15] | sphery: | ooh, does it return, "Rails error" every 3rd request? |
| [21:03:29] | joemyth: | kind of, but its really pretty |
| [21:03:33] | sphery: | http://www.redmine.org/ – "Redmine is a flexible project management web application. Written using the Ruby on Rails framework, it is cross-platform and cross-database." |
| [21:03:35] | joemyth: | feature rich too |
| [21:03:52] | wagnerrp: | oh, redmine is a project management tool |
| [21:03:56] | sphery: | my only experience with RoR was tmdb's constant "Rails error" pages |
| [21:04:11] | joemyth: | they ripped off every single thing that trac did but they really built on it |
| [21:04:19] | ** Blaksmith wonders why it is trying to pull in some of the OLD stuff... oh well, going to just let it continue .. failing on getting an 0.24 ... when it shouldn't .. unless I should just clean the whole directory ... ** | |
| [21:05:40] | sphery: | Blaksmith: git doesn't like when you do a git pull when you have changes in any files in any branch |
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| [21:08:51] | joemyth: | does anyone use mythdroid? is it good enough to drop subsonic? |
| [21:10:15] | jams: | chiliproject(fork of redmine) is probably more actice then redmine, plan on switching over at some point |
| [21:10:47] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: i know its been brought up in the past, do you recall off hand why we dont close the standard pipes when daemonizing? |
| [21:10:53] | sphery: | wagnerrp: oh, and btw, the git output is still colored for me... git diff 8b7500ed4f 0b2af32af9 programs/mythfrontend/playbackbox.cpp | view - |
| [21:11:01] | sphery: | vim ftw |
| [21:11:13] | wagnerrp: | heh |
| [21:11:42] | Blaksmith: | trying a clean dir |
| [21:12:03] | joemyth: | jams: you can search issues+wiki at the same time in chiliproj? |
| [21:13:14] | Blaksmith: | YAY.. looks like it will do 20111209 finally |
| [21:13:34] | jams: | joemyth- not for sure, but since redmine will do I would assume chiliproject does it as well |
| [21:13:58] | joemyth: | yah actually its very similar |
| [21:14:17] | jams: | pretty much it's the same set of devs minus the lead guy. |
| [21:14:40] | joemyth: | i had to pick something to use at work last year, and i really liked redmine.. dont tell me i chose wrong.. |
| [21:14:47] | jams: | since eric davis left redmine and move to chiliproject I think it's worth a look. |
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| [21:16:01] | sphery: | chiliproject is worth a look? |
| [21:16:08] | sphery: | or redmine |
| [21:16:48] | sphery: | ah, guess since you're planning to switch to chiliproject, that's the one you're saying is worth the look |
| [21:18:47] | jams: | sphery- they are both good, but chiliproject is a fork that took a good chunk of the devs with it. The idea for chiliproject was to have better user interaction and apply patches faster. The main guy for redmine will go on long breaks, so nothing gets done during that time. |
| [21:19:11] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [21:21:16] | jams: | the built in repository viewer is very basic, but it gets the job done. |
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| [21:21:58] | sphery: | jams: have you used it with git? |
| [21:22:06] | jams: | yep..use it almost every day |
| [21:22:41] | sphery: | just wondering... I'm not in love with github's tools, and trac's git integration isn't ideal (or is it just trac's github integration?) |
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| [21:23:12] | sphery: | anyway, I can't wait until we get our server set back up and our own repo becomes the main repo and github is the "public face" of the repo |
| [21:23:32] | jams: | sphery- if you want to poke around linhes.org runs redmine |
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| [21:37:08] | sphery: | jams: cool, I'll take a look at it |
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| [21:51:39] | kormoc: | chiliproject looks like redmine |
| [21:51:54] | joemyth: | you mean: redmine looks like chiliproject |
| [21:52:14] | kormoc: | nah, chiliproject is a fork of redmine |
| [21:53:15] | joemyth: | they both are clones of trac |
| [21:54:09] | kormoc: | joemyth, that's amusing. Redmine was released months before trac was |
| [21:54:18] | kormoc: | so guess they cloned something from the future |
| [21:54:28] | iamlindoro: | Which, now that you mention it, is way more impressive |
| [21:54:45] | kormoc: | (Redmine was June 25, 2006, Trac was October 1, 2006) |
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| [21:55:35] | joemyth: | yeah but i think the early versions of redmine were really basic |
| [21:55:52] | sphery: | we should get them to clone MythTV 1.0, then we could just copy all the changes into current MythTV and save a ton of work |
| [21:56:33] | kormoc: | joemyth, not that much more basic. They serve similar functions so they have similar looks and feels because it's what people are used to. It's really not fair to call any of them a clone of any other |
| [21:56:47] | joemyth: | is too |
| [21:57:04] | kormoc: | sphery, Indeed! Unless we've dropped support for all the hardware we have now cause it's too old... |
| [21:57:20] | ** kormoc shakes his head at joemyth and backs out of this argument. ** | |
| [21:57:27] | sphery: | I've been getting all my fixes by just using my time machine to go into the future and see what changes I had made, but it's getting expensive having to buy 1.21GW each time I want to change MythTV |
| [21:58:01] | kormoc: | sphery, you need a lightning rod. Then we'd get commit floods from you during thunderstorms |
| [21:58:12] | joemyth: | i just spent like 3 days on jira – at this point i'd be happy using trac, redmine, or anything |
| [21:58:30] | sphery: | hehe--and being in FL, the lightning capital of the (world|US), I could be quite productive that way |
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| [22:10:25] | Blaksmith: | ok, compiled... now to wait till the kid is playing a game on the PS3 LOL |
| [22:18:01] | Blaksmith: | YAY.. first one works |
| [22:18:38] | Blaksmith: | hmm, getting corrupted data on some .. will have to double check the way it is saved |
| [22:18:52] | Blaksmith: | but, not getting the "directory missing" any more |
| [22:20:35] | Blaksmith: | Stream type is still set to MPEG-2 TS .. |
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| [22:52:29] | sphery: | wagnerrp: do you know how to add images to the wiki? gonna put in some of the howto images |
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| [22:55:25] | sphery: | ah, nvm... upload file, it seems |
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