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| [00:34:40] | wagnerrp: | sphery: didnt you just buy a 2250? |
| [00:36:19] | Twiggy2cents: | wagnerrp, I was out did you happen to answer my question? |
| [00:36:25] | k-man: | cool, a bug report I made 10 months ago got accepted! |
| [00:36:31] | wagnerrp: | perhaps, what was the question? |
| [00:36:57] | Twiggy2cents: | Does a dvd dump have access times comparable to a video file or an ISO? |
| [00:37:19] | wagnerrp: | no, i believe a VIDEO_TS opens considerably faster |
| [00:37:29] | Twiggy2cents: | okay that is good to know |
| [00:37:33] | wagnerrp: | (than an ISO) |
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| [00:37:44] | wagnerrp: | but dont quote me on that |
| [00:38:07] | Twiggy2cents: | That is easier than smushing a video file together. |
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| [01:04:13] | Jester86: | hey guys.. anyone here have TWC's samsung cablebox model SMT-H3050? |
| [01:04:29] | Jester86: | trying to decide how i want to go about attempting to change channels on that bad boy |
| [01:04:49] | wagnerrp: | telekinesis |
| [01:05:02] | Jester86: | haha wagnerrp you never fail to be of no help lool |
| [01:05:08] | biffhero: | Jester86: I don't have that one, but when I plugged a serial cable into my moto, it "just worked", which surprised me, but was awesome. |
| [01:05:21] | biffhero: | Have you tried a serial cable and minicom to see what happens? |
| [01:05:31] | Jester86: | serial cable? you mean serial to USB or firewire? |
| [01:05:39] | wagnerrp: | that is... assuming it actually has a serial port |
| [01:05:46] | Jester86: | yeah.. it doesn't |
| [01:05:55] | Jester86: | I have (2) usb ports.. one on the back and one on the front |
| [01:05:56] | biffhero: | Oh, bummer. |
| [01:06:02] | Jester86: | and I have firewire |
| [01:06:08] | wagnerrp: | there are some Dish STBs that are known to accept serial commands using a USB->serial dongle and the USB port |
| [01:06:17] | Jester86: | i do have a serial to USB device but i dont think this HTPC has serial out |
| [01:06:27] | wagnerrp: | assuming the firewire is active, you can use firewire to change channels |
| [01:06:38] | Jester86: | thats what i think i'm going to try |
| [01:06:47] | Jester86: | i'd rather change channels via wire than ir anyway |
| [01:07:06] | wagnerrp: | you know you would want to use telekinesis if you could |
| [01:07:12] | Jester86: | now i just need to find the documentation on firewire ;) |
| [01:07:28] | wagnerrp: | its a generic command set |
| [01:07:44] | wagnerrp: | there are a handful of programs on the wiki you can compile for that use |
| [01:07:54] | wagnerrp: | or in 0.25, you can use the internal firewire channel changer |
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| [01:09:06] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, i just installed mythbuntu 11.10.. haven't had my HTPC running since i moved to NC. last it ran was mythbuntu 10.10 |
| [01:09:09] | ekoffel: | i have hd pvr 4903 and ubuntu 1004 and mythtv 23 am i gona have a major headace on getting it to work? |
| [01:09:11] | Jester86: | so i've been out of it for a while |
| [01:09:33] | wagnerrp: | hdpvr 4903? |
| [01:10:00] | ekoffel: | model is 1212 |
| [01:10:09] | ekoffel: | vendor code is 4903 |
| [01:10:34] | wagnerrp: | you will fare much better with a newer version of mythbuntu and mythtv |
| [01:11:01] | ekoffel: | don't wanta use mythbuntu |
| [01:11:09] | Jester86: | what version of mythtv comes on mythbuntu 11.10? |
| [01:11:14] | wagnerrp: | are you using binaries, or did you compile on your own? |
| [01:11:16] | wagnerrp: | 0.24.1 |
| [01:11:43] | ekoffel: | i am using one that comes with 1004 |
| [01:11:44] | Jester86: | mythbuntu comes reloaded.. |
| [01:11:46] | Jester86: | pre* |
| [01:12:06] | wagnerrp: | ekoffel: youre using the mythtv binaries that come with ubuntu?> |
| [01:12:34] | ekoffel: | yes |
| [01:12:39] | ekoffel: | Bus 001 Device 005: ID 2040:4903 Hauppauge |
| [01:12:42] | wagnerrp: | then youre running mythbuntu |
| [01:12:57] | wagnerrp: | as custom distro, or as package, its the same thing |
| [01:13:27] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, where is this integrated firewire thing at? |
| [01:13:53] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has long had the ability to capture over firewire, and part of that ability required the ability to change channels |
| [01:14:09] | wagnerrp: | in 0.25, that ability was split off to allow the use as a channel changer with analog capture |
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| [01:14:35] | wagnerrp: | its a special option for the external channel changer |
| [01:14:52] | wagnerrp: | i know its in there, i believe it works, ive never used it so i cant help further than that |
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| [01:15:24] | Jester86: | is it something that the gui leads you to or do i need to start cranking thru some config files? |
| [01:15:36] | wagnerrp: | its in the GUI |
| [01:15:39] | wagnerrp: | there are no config files |
| [01:15:52] | wagnerrp: | (anywhere, remember... everything is in the database) |
| [01:16:10] | Jester86: | there are config files for lirc ;) |
| [01:16:41] | wagnerrp: | i dont know enough about LIRC to say if its loaded by its libraries or ours |
| [01:16:54] | Jester86: | ohh |
| [01:17:11] | wagnerrp: | well... considering the LIRC maintainer is a mythtv dev, i suppose it is ours regardless |
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| [01:19:56] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, i just bought an HD-PVR |
| [01:20:08] | Jester86: | think the firmware is stable or should i see about an upgrade? |
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| [01:21:09] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt be the one to ask about that |
| [01:21:21] | wagnerrp: | there has been some discussion on the mailing list in the past few weeks |
| [01:21:26] | wagnerrp: | may want to search the archives |
| [01:22:40] | Jester86: | ok |
| [01:22:47] | Jester86: | thnks |
| [01:32:15] | koffel: | sudo modprobe hdpvr |
| [01:32:15] | koffel: | FATAL: Error inserting hdpvr (/lib/modules/2.6.32-34-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/hdpvr/hdpvr.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
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| [01:39:58] | Beirdo: | so see dmesg |
| [01:41:59] | koffel: | i did |
| [01:42:31] | koffel: | [ 240.428706] v4l2_common: disagrees about version of symbol v4l2_device_unregister_subdev |
| [01:42:31] | koffel: | [ 240.428710] v4l2_common: Unknown symbol v4l2_device_unregister_subdev |
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| [02:41:37] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, so all my 2250 advice was very fresh :) |
| [02:42:08] | biffhero: | In the "Watch Recordings" screen, is there a way to move things around? I have a lot of movies which are coming in, thanks to the amazing tvwish. However, each movie gets its own little group, with each one of them having only one episode in it. I would like to have one group, called "movie", and I would move all of the movies into that one. |
| [02:45:17] | sphery: | biffhero: closes approach to allow that is to create a recording group for Movies and assign each movie recording and/or movie recording rule to that recording group, then use Filters in Watch Recordings (MENU (once or twice)|Change group filter) to select Movies recording group or another |
| [02:45:45] | sphery: | unfortunately, current implementation doesn't allow you to see all but movies... but if you only haveone other group... |
| [02:46:18] | sphery: | and/or you can turn off the "Show titles" option that shows titles in the left-hand list |
| [02:46:32] | sphery: | then it will show only recording groups or categories or whatever you've selected |
| [02:46:45] | biffhero: | sphery: thanks. There's no way to make them not show up in the other filters? I think my other group is "watch all" Maybe I can put the normal things in a larger group bucket. This will require training, though, so I don't know how much it will be used. Wife, you know. |
| [02:47:21] | biffhero: | [6:46] <sphery> and/or you can turn off the "Show titles" option that shows titles in the left-hand list <<< Ooh, interesting. What theme is the default? I am in Terra. |
| [02:47:26] | sphery: | not sure where to do that... either in frontend settings and/or MENU (once or twice)|Change <something> view |
| [02:47:42] | sphery: | it's not a theme thing |
| [02:47:52] | biffhero: | while I am in the watching recordings, I can hit m to get a menu, and change groups there. |
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| [02:48:02] | sphery: | just another of the plethora of unnavigable settings |
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| [02:48:10] | biffhero: | this is some amazing software. |
| [02:48:29] | sphery: | try the change <something> view, too |
| [02:48:31] | sphery: | and unselect titles |
| [02:48:42] | sphery: | but make sure you select recording groups and/or categories or ... |
| [02:48:58] | sphery: | categories are from listings provider... recording groups are user-defined |
| [02:49:04] | sphery: | (but only one group per recording) |
| [02:49:57] | sphery: | anyway, if that's not it, you'll have to play to find it--I still show titles |
| [02:50:04] | biffhero: | thanks. |
| [02:50:23] | sphery: | but I will say that it will be better in the future (with my planned "tags" changes--more like how google does tags on emails) |
| [02:50:36] | biffhero: | that sounds cool. |
| [02:50:42] | sphery: | future = not anytime soon :) |
| [02:51:10] | biffhero: | I think that the gmail tags thing is one of the better things to happen to email in a long time. Don't file it, don't delete it, just remove the [INBOX] tag. |
| [02:51:51] | sphery: | I actually like a combination of the 2, but, yeah, tags are good |
| [02:52:52] | biffhero: | Nicely, tvwish shows me the movies in the tvwish group. |
| [02:53:32] | biffhero: | But having to skip over a group called "True Grit" and "The Truman Show" is getting tiresome. |
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| [02:54:00] | sphery: | cool, I remembered that tv wish used a specific recgroup, but I didn't realize tv wish still worked |
| [02:54:28] | sphery: | When you wish upon a TV... Makes no difference who you be... |
| [02:54:40] | biffhero: | I think I was talking to wagnerrp when I said this, so if you have heard it before, stop me… :-) |
| [02:55:13] | biffhero: | The jump from Tivo to mythtv is akin to the jump from mythtv to mythtv+tvwish. |
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| [02:55:34] | biffhero: | I can't quite say it is completely that much, but the suggests is great. |
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| [02:57:13] | sphery: | yeah, seems like it would be very useful for a lot of people |
| [02:57:51] | biffhero: | adding the AFIs list of shows took some work, but now they just magically show up. I think that this is closer to what TV is meant to be. |
| [02:58:34] | sphery: | I don't think it would help me much--I have my box record every new series every season/mid-season/summer season (except reality tv), then watch what's not cancelled/generally regarded as worth watching/what interests me even though I know it was cancelled after 5 episodes |
| [02:59:39] | sphery: | although it might be nice for finding movies--I just go through the list of movies in the current schedule once in a while (and have way more movies than I'll ever be able to watch already recorded from it) |
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| [03:03:26] | biffhero: | The really nice thing about TVWish-Suggest is that it will look at what you are watching, and then get more things like that. It can also incorporate program lists from others. I can see this getting some cool social stuff. "+1 from spery, −10 from wagnerrp" stuff like that. |
| [03:03:54] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression it was more like a long term recording schedule |
| [03:04:10] | wagnerrp: | you would give it a list of movies, and it would generate rules should they ever show up in the schedule |
| [03:04:14] | biffhero: | Yeah, that's the default. Give it a list, and it will do it. |
| [03:04:32] | biffhero: | Well, actually, it generates the rules ahead of time. So I have a really long recording list. |
| [03:05:13] | biffhero: | But there is also a 'suggests' feature. I am having it record 5 hours per day of stuff it thinks we will like. |
| [03:05:48] | wagnerrp: | well... at least its in perl |
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| [03:42:59] | Jester86: | anyone here know what all you have to do to get the HD-PVR working? |
| [03:43:44] | wagnerrp: | sacrifice a goat and stomp around all night in leggings made from its skin |
| [03:46:47] | biffhero: | My wife is still pissed at me for all the blood in the living room. But it worked. |
| [03:47:18] | biffhero: | We didn't have a goat, but the two Guinea Pigs, Yoshi and Zelda worked well. I didn't make leggings, more like sandal bottoms. |
| [03:47:21] | wagnerrp: | plus the leggings come in handy for all sorts of other mythtv repairs |
| [03:47:34] | Jester86: | anyone here use mythbuntu? |
| [03:47:50] | biffhero: | I think my boys are going to be upset when they figure out I am lying about the piggies running away. |
| [03:48:05] | Jester86: | their page says theres a setting within mythbuntu-control-centre that you can change to pushforward to mythtv 0.25 |
| [03:48:07] | Jester86: | i cant find it |
| [03:48:17] | wagnerrp: | ssh... they went the farm |
| [03:48:29] | wagnerrp: | where they are free to roam and frolic to their hearts desire |
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| [05:24:50] | Gumby: | hi all. is it only the cardinput table that stores the channel that mythtv uses when starting livetv? |
| [05:26:24] | Gumby: | I'm starting mythtv but its trying to tune to an invalid channel and I am not getting the chance to input a valid channel number before it falls back to the main screen. I'm also looking and the 'startchan' for the tuner being used is not the channel that is being tuned to |
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| [05:40:22] | [R]: | Gumby: what do the logs say |
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| [05:54:12] | Gumby: | [R]: sorry, I got distracted.. the frontend or backend logs? |
| [06:01:38] | Gumby: | here is a backend paste of the logs http://pastebin.com/yxybgnP5 |
| [06:01:59] | Gumby: | the problem is that the dvb channel is not always broadcast so there is nothing to tune to right now |
| [06:02:19] | Gumby: | but it was the last channel I was watching before I stopped livetv |
| [06:02:51] | Gumby: | if I could simply change which channel livetv starts with in the database, I could avoid the problem |
| [06:03:23] | Gumby: | I thought this was taken care of in the cardinput table, but none of my tuners show this channel as it's default |
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| [06:40:02] | dekarl: | Gumby: a) try DefaultTVChannel in settings and b) disable "save last channel as default channel" I know I've seen an option named similar to that somewhere |
| [06:41:50] | Gumby: | dekarl: thanks, I'll browse the DB |
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| [06:48:07] | Gumby: | I set DefaultTVChannel to no avail. it still pulls the last tuned channel |
| [06:48:15] | dekarl: | Gumby: sorry, thats "Guide starts at channel" with default "3" |
| [06:52:46] | dekarl: | Gumby: IIRC you can start LiveTV in the tv guide as a workaround |
| [06:52:56] | Gumby: | good idea |
| [06:52:58] | Gumby: | thanks |
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| [10:52:30] | redxine: | this IR receiver has given me headache recently. |
| [10:52:33] | redxine: | kernel panics o.o |
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| [11:09:25] | castlemain: | so in general is pci cards better the usb for tv tuners |
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| [11:33:02] | redxine: | will mythnetvision play RTC and file streams or does it have to be an http url? |
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| [11:33:14] | redxine: | with a custom grabber of course |
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| [18:38:35] | quentusrex_: | Has anyone else had audio instability issues with an HD-PVR when watching liveTV ? I seem to have a random lack of audio playing through mythtv, but changing the channel often resolves the problem. |
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| [19:57:08] | akv: | hey, just reinstalled my mythbuntu (previous 8.10), but now I'm having problems watching HD tv. Even with "none" as deinterlacer it's terrible. Load isn't high at all, so guess it's the VDPAU that's the problem. Installed nvidia-current instead of nvidia-173 (which i believe I used before)... |
| [19:57:54] | wagnerrp: | 173? what video card? |
| [19:58:37] | akv: | Nvidia GeForce 8200 |
| [19:59:02] | wagnerrp: | get the newest stable driver version you can find |
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| [20:02:16] | akv: | wagnerrp: okay |
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| [20:13:29] | akv: | wagnerrp: now with the newest from nvidia, but still problems. Not as bad as before tough... |
| [20:13:43] | wagnerrp: | 8200... meaning onboard video with AMD processor? |
| [20:13:49] | akv: | yes |
| [20:14:00] | wagnerrp: | what processor, what kind of HD? |
| [20:14:06] | akv: | 720p |
| [20:14:15] | wagnerrp: | i.e. broadcast ATSC, digital cable, analog capture from HDPVR... |
| [20:14:32] | akv: | AMD 4850e |
| [20:14:36] | akv: | digital cable |
| [20:15:07] | wagnerrp: | a 2.6GHz Athlon should have no problem with HD MPEG2 from cable |
| [20:15:28] | wagnerrp: | what other options do you have set for your playback profile |
| [20:15:29] | akv: | i had no problems before reinstalling |
| [20:15:58] | akv: | used all the same configs as before (copy of the database) which of cause were updated to the newest schemas |
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| [20:18:27] | akv: | wagnerrp: using vdpau-slim for playback |
| [20:18:41] | akv: | bob and one field as deinterlacers |
| [20:19:15] | wagnerrp: | did you change the amount of video memory allocated to the graphics? |
| [20:19:21] | iamlindoro: | Bob and one field are not VDPAU deinterlacers |
| [20:19:26] | wagnerrp: | do you have cool&quiet enabled? |
| [20:19:27] | iamlindoro: | so you're not using VDPAU |
| [20:19:54] | akv: | iamlindoro: hm...okay |
| [20:19:58] | akv: | wagnerrp: cool&quiet? |
| [20:20:11] | wagnerrp: | the thing that lets AMD processors downclock when idle |
| [20:20:48] | iamlindoro: | VDPAU deinterlacers are Basic, Advanced, Temporal, etc. |
| [20:20:49] | akv: | ah... that was a problem before as well, always have to run at full speed... |
| [20:21:08] | wagnerrp: | only when playing video |
| [20:21:09] | iamlindoro: | One field/Bob/etc. are software deint... meaning software display, and possibly or probably, software decode |
| [20:21:35] | iamlindoro: | Meaning you have edited the vdpau-slim configuration, since that's not how it comes by default |
| [20:22:25] | akv: | wagnerrp: okay |
| [20:23:29] | akv: | echo 2500000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq – that did the job :) |
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| [20:25:26] | quentusrex_: | Has anyone else had audio instability issues with an HD-PVR when watching liveTV ? |
| [20:26:14] | Beirdo: | Ahhhh, Metallica is good fer what ails ya on a Monday. |
| [20:26:19] | quentusrex_: | I seem to have a problem that when changing channel the sound will randomly work or not. No luck finding anything in the logs that point to a problem. |
| [20:26:40] | akv: | iamlindoro: i can see that tempural and advanced require more than 512MB ram...they are not as smooth as bob :) |
| [20:26:42] | Beirdo: | quentusrex_: how is the audio channel connected into the HD-PVR |
| [20:26:55] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: are you saying you got that which you desire? |
| [20:27:11] | quentusrex_: | optical from cable box to the mythtv box |
| [20:27:14] | Beirdo: | hehe... listening to Kill Em All acutally |
| [20:27:26] | quentusrex_: | and optical from the hd-pvr into my receiver on a different source. |
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| [20:27:41] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [20:27:54] | quentusrex_: | I have confirmed that the problem exists between the hd-pvr and mythbuntu because when the sound doesn't work on mythtv it works just fine when skipping the mythtv box. |
| [20:28:33] | Beirdo: | I've never seen an issue with the optical in on my hdpvr, but I think others have. |
| [20:28:41] | Beirdo: | and I don't do LiveTV |
| [20:29:04] | Beirdo: | hmmm, what firmware in the HDPVR? |
| [20:29:55] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: oh wait... No, I cued up Master of Puppets, not Kill Em All :) |
| [20:30:27] | jpabq_: | quentusrex_: Myth can tell when the HD-PVR has been able to lock onto the video, but it cannot tell when it has locked onto the audio. So, personally I just add a couple of seconds to the end of my channel change script to give it the extra time it sometimes needs. |
| [20:30:47] | quentusrex_: | jpabq_, Thanks |
| [20:30:49] | Beirdo: | ah, yes, good point, thanks :) |
| [20:31:12] | Beirdo: | I have one in there too (partly for that, partly so the channel change banner from directv is usually gone) |
| [20:31:40] | quentusrex_: | I'm using firewire to change, so I'll have to add the sleep into 6200ch |
| [20:32:13] | Beirdo: | but you aren't using firewire to capture? Interesting. |
| [20:33:34] | Beirdo: | Oh, I scored a book which might be useful... |
| [20:33:47] | Beirdo: | Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code |
| [20:34:47] | Beirdo: | too bad all the examples are in Java |
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| [20:50:41] | dekarl: | wrt http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10054, can they not chime in report "yeah that patch fixed it for me" |
| [20:51:23] | wagnerrp: | of course not, such a thing would actually be helpful |
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| [23:00:52] | Jester86: | hey guys.. hoping someone here can help me out |
| [23:01:41] | Jester86: | i'm running mythbuntu 11.10 but just upgraded to 0.25 last night. Now I hadn't configured the box around the hardware under 0.24 but with 0.25 and my current install my PVR150s are not working |
| [23:02:12] | Jester86: | when i try to scan for channels with them it just scrolls right thru all the channels and when i try to view live tv via those devices it just drops out |
| [23:03:00] | dekarl: | is there anything in mythbackend.log that hints towards what might be wrong? |
| [23:03:01] | Jester86: | also if i'm using the software volume control the music player does not play |
| [23:03:23] | Jester86: | dekarl, where is that log located |
| [23:03:48] | dekarl: | /var/log/mythtv/myth* |
| [23:04:28] | Jester86: | dekarl, want me to paste bin it and let you give it a quick look? |
| [23:04:39] | dekarl: | sure |
| [23:04:48] | Jester86: | i dont feel like i'd be able to id the issue quickly.. |
| [23:05:46] | Jester86: | here you go sir: http://pastebin.com/rJMava9Y |
| [23:06:33] | dekarl: | you did not connect your input source to the cards |
| [23:06:41] | Jester86: | no i did |
| [23:07:01] | Jester86: | you'll have to scroll a ways up.. i deleted the cards and only reinstalled my HDhomerun |
| [23:07:29] | dekarl: | hmm, the log says "ChannelBase(3) Error: InitializeInputs(): Could not get inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs?" and "Scheduler, Warning: Listings source 'TWC-Standard' is defined, but is not attached to a card input." |
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| [23:07:36] | Jester86: | i was hoping you could ctrl+f 'pvr' or 'pvr150' but i guess not |
| [23:08:10] | Jester86: | no i know i had them set up right |
| [23:08:36] | dekarl: | /dev/video2 would be the pvr card methinks |
| [23:08:37] | Jester86: | I've set up the PVR150s many times in the past.. its my new HD-PVR thats going to throw a wrench into things ;) |
| [23:09:14] | Jester86: | well this box has (2) PVR150s, (1) HDhomerun-dual tuner, and (1) HD-PVR |
| [23:10:34] | dekarl: | hmm, so video0/1 are the pvr150s? and the two hdhr don't have /dev/video nodes and the hdpvr goes to another /dev/video entry. |
| [23:11:08] | Jester86: | yes |
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| [23:11:28] | Jester86: | the HDRNs at least were functioning fine but the last errors i see there make me wonder |
| [23:11:30] | dekarl: | did you configure that box so that the /dev/video entries do not jump around between pvr and hdpvr devices? (just making sure) |
| [23:11:37] | Jester86: | i'm remoted into the box currently.. |
| [23:11:58] | dekarl: | and the mythtv video input with device /dev/video2 is not yet connected :) |
| [23:12:30] | dekarl: | ohh, and on a sidenote "SG(Screenshots) Error: Group 'Screenshots' wants to use directory '/var/lib/mythtv/screenshots/', but this directory is not writeable." |
| [23:12:31] | Jester86: | no i didnt .. but i think my motherboard always associates them the same to the OS |
| [23:12:37] | Jester86: | i've never had an issue b4 |
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| [23:13:16] | dekarl: | ok, it's likely that the pci devices probe fast and the usb one is quite slow... so video0/1 is pvr150 and video2 the hdpvr (not connected to a video source) |
| [23:13:29] | Jester86: | yes I saw that dekarl .. it was a new dir i created and never changed permissions on that one.. I have all of my /var/lib/mythtv/*'s mount-bind to different network locations |
| [23:14:03] | Jester86: | yes dekarl I believe that is the case.. but why would my PVR 150s not work? |
| [23:14:15] | Jester86: | when I only have those two cards configured they fail to function |
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| [23:15:00] | Jester86: | i know i had /dev/video2 configured incorrectly when i tried it so ignore that issue for now |
| [23:15:44] | dekarl: | I don't really see errors for them but this one "MythBackend, Warning: No valid capture cards are defined in the database." |
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| [23:16:00] | dekarl: | ok, ignoring video2 |
| [23:16:17] | Jester86: | want to see the FE log? |
| [23:16:40] | Jester86: | tho i dont think its a FE issue considering the channel scan didn't function correctly within setup |
| [23:16:46] | Jester86: | BE setup* |
| [23:17:44] | dekarl: | it's very likely a BE issue |
| [23:18:04] | Jester86: | grr |
| [23:18:13] | Jester86: | i dont think its a configuration issue either :- |
| [23:18:16] | Jester86: | :-\ |
| [23:18:18] | dekarl: | what capture devices have you configure at the moment? 2xPVR and 1xHDPVR, the HDHR is not configured? (or is it HDPVR + HDHR?) |
| [23:18:28] | Jester86: | maybe i shouldn't have jumped to 0.25 lol |
| [23:18:45] | Jester86: | I have just the HDhomerun configured currently |
| [23:18:54] | dekarl: | your backend log is from 0.24-fixes... |
| [23:19:08] | dekarl: | mythbackend version: fixes/0.24 [v0.24.1-80-g1de0431] www.mythtv.org |
| [23:19:15] | Jester86: | its not on 0.24 anymore |
| [23:20:40] | dekarl: | well, what I see from the last startup is 1x video2 not existing and 2xInput not connected to video source |
| [23:20:55] | Jester86: | yeah |
| [23:21:11] | Jester86: | its weird that it still says its 0.24 |
| [23:21:16] | Jester86: | its weird that it still says its 0.24 |
| [23:21:18] | dekarl: | is that the latest log? it says 2011-11–06 ... thats like sunday |
| [23:21:39] | Jester86: | it was from last night |
| [23:21:43] | Jester86: | i quit working with it at 3am |
| [23:21:47] | Jester86: | .. and went to work at 8 lol |
| [23:22:24] | Jester86: | god i hate having to remote in over wifi.. |
| [23:22:35] | Jester86: | gui response is so slow |
| [23:22:35] | dekarl: | hmm, there were some issues with strange (as in wrong) version identifiers, but I think they were only related to the 7 character hashes |
| [23:23:12] | Jester86: | hmm |
| [23:23:25] | Jester86: | i'm tempted just to reinstall and not do the repos upgrade |
| [23:23:30] | Jester86: | see if the base works |
| [23:23:51] | Jester86: | i was trying to upgrade to 0.25 to get the integrated firewire channel changing feature |
| [23:24:08] | dekarl: | I'd go and look at step 4 of mythtv-setup just to be sure |
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| [23:24:53] | Jester86: | yeah i'm going to try to remote into it.. its soslow tho |
| [23:26:28] | dekarl: | hmm, works well with remote X over 1000baseT |
| [23:26:57] | Jester86: | yeah i know.. I've used remote b4.. I'm just over wifi and my PC is hardly within range lol |
| [23:27:30] | Jester86: | its a rental house and I dont want to do much work .. tho if i'm going to be remoting in i may make a new antenna |
| [23:30:51] | dekarl: | ahh, the landlord saved on piping for the cables :( I hate it when they do that (dunno if that makes sense... the correct way is to put pipes in the wall that carry the cables to the outlets, but that's more then 50 cent extra cost per meter...) |
| [23:31:56] | Jester86: | yup |
| [23:32:10] | Jester86: | i'm an electrical engineer.. I design buildings that way ;) |
| [23:32:41] | Jester86: | typically its just a raceway .. j-box on the wall with 1" conduit stubbed above accessible ceiling.. sometimes we actually have to run data too tho |
| [23:33:25] | Jester86: | i work in the healthcare field and typically hospitals have their own inhouse data guys who take care of running and landing |
| [23:35:17] | Jester86: | dekarl, i just tried to send you a screenshot of my capture devices page |
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| [23:35:21] | dekarl: | ahh, my uncle is a teacher and saved the 50 bucks for the pipes around the new cables :( (and did'nt tell me what they were up to until it was to late, now they life on WiFi... not my fault :) |
| [23:35:41] | Jester86: | haha |
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| [23:35:58] | Jester86: | well if you have cat cable its not to hard to pull new cat .. just tape the ends reall good and pull |
| [23:36:08] | Jester86: | assuming its not running laterally thru the wall |
| [23:36:25] | Jester86: | if its just straight down between studs you should be fine |
| [23:36:35] | Jester86: | assuming you can get above/between ceilings |
| [23:36:53] | dekarl: | nope, it's literally in the wall. they even had someone come in to put it there... |
| [23:37:12] | dekarl: | hmm, pidgin doesn't like the screenshot transfer |
| [23:37:32] | dekarl: | http://tinypic.com/ ? |
| [23:38:27] | Jester86: | just tried to add the PVR 150s.. ran a scan.. it sped thru all the channels and said failed to find any new channels |
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| [23:38:44] | dekarl: | do you have a mythtv-setup.log there? |
| [23:38:51] | dekarl: | there == /var/log/mythtv |
| [23:39:22] | Jester86: | http://i44.tinypic.com/23mnalh.png |
| [23:39:59] | Jester86: | negative soldier |
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| [23:40:41] | dekarl: | that picture is from step 2, how does step 4 look like? does it have 2 entries HDHR -> "The Video Source" |
| [23:40:43] | Jester86: | or would that be under mysql? |
| [23:40:57] | Jester86: | it only has the HD homeruns.. |
| [23:41:09] | Jester86: | well did until i just tried to add /dev/video0 again lol |
| [23:41:14] | dekarl: | no, but it (the setup.-log) is likely only their with 0.25 packages |
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| [23:42:31] | Jester86: | http://i41.tinypic.com/dzp85.png |
| [23:42:52] | Jester86: | brb going to log in via laptop by the tv/HTPC |
| [23:44:04] | dekarl: | looks good, so the HDHR is connected to some aerial |
| [23:44:42] | dekarl: | (not sure about MPEG2TS, but I'll asume thats correct) |
| [23:46:06] | dekarl: | I guess you followed this guide (more or less) http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Silicondust_HDHome . . . ital_Antenna |
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| [23:47:44] | Jester86-Laptop: | dekarl, you there?> |
| [23:48:10] | Jester86-Laptop: | just got logged in .. anything you sent me between my last post and now i can't see |
| [23:49:20] | dekarl: | I guess you followed this guide (more or less) http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Silicondust_HDHome . . . ital_Antenna |
| [23:51:18] | Jester86-Laptop: | yeah more less |
| [23:51:38] | Jester86-Laptop: | the problem isnt with the HDhomeruns.. they're working fine |
| [23:51:49] | Jester86-Laptop: | the problem is when i attempt to use my PVR150s |
| [23:52:50] | dekarl: | hm, never used such cards myself. do they need manual firmware downloads? |
| [23:52:59] | Jester86-Laptop: | nope |
| [23:53:04] | Jester86-Laptop: | kernel comes loaded with them |
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| [23:54:02] | dekarl: | ok |
| [23:54:37] | Jester86-Laptop: | dekarl, .. i also need to know how to change channels via firewire ;) |
| [23:54:38] | dekarl: | the rest of the setup should be more or less the same. configure ivtv cards + video source and connect it then scan it |
| [23:54:58] | Jester86-Laptop: | yeah i know that .. but its not working |
| [23:55:00] | dekarl: | oh, right. you said that earlier |
| [23:55:09] | Jester86-Laptop: | and it doesn't see them as itiv.. it sees them as MPEG-2 |
| [23:55:32] | dekarl: | you have the mythbuntu repositories installed and switched to 0.25 in MCC? |
| [23:56:07] | Jester86-Laptop: | tried to.. i think it has |
| [23:56:20] | Jester86-Laptop: | i took a look at synaptic and it says i have .25 |
| [23:56:53] | dekarl: | hmm, what does the Mythbuntu-Control-Center say in the repositories tab? |
| [23:57:32] | Jester86-Laptop: | it says its .25 |
| [23:57:36] | dekarl: | should have the "active upates repo" checked and the version selector on 0.25 |
| [23:57:38] | dekarl: | ok |
| [23:57:42] | Jester86-Laptop: | http://i41.tinypic.com/2mrutls.png |
| [23:57:48] | Jester86-Laptop: | take a look at how it sees the cards.. |
| [23:57:56] | Jester86-Laptop: | brb dinner.. gf is getting mean lol |
| [23:58:07] | Jester86-Laptop: | better go eat her awesome supper.. just in case she reads this ;) |
| [23:58:12] | dekarl: | looks ok. I'm running out of ideas |
| [23:58:25] | dekarl: | (and it's one on the morning.. maybe someone can take over :) |
| [23:58:29] | Jester86-Laptop: | me 2.. i think its a driver/kernel issue |
| [23:58:57] | Jester86-Laptop: | lol well if youre not back when i am.. thanks for the attempted help lol |
| [23:59:03] | Jester86-Laptop: | i think i may just go back to 0.24 |
| [23:59:45] | dekarl: | welcome, its been a pleasure. just checking my new .debs with the patch and heading off to bed |
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