| Tuesday, October 18th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:24] | Twiggy2cents: | I have a lot of these 2011-10–17 18:54:29.937 ProgramInfo(2032_20110810110000.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL: '2032_20110810110000.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found |
| [00:00:31] | Twiggy2cents: | with different files |
| [00:00:55] | wagnerrp: | did you have a secondary backend, or a failed hard drive at some point? |
| [00:01:06] | Twiggy2cents: | nope |
| [00:01:36] | Twiggy2cents: | Well I dunno about failed hdd. As far as I know the hdd's are okay |
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| [00:05:10] | Twiggy2cents: | If I can list each recording folder in my SG's would that mean that for the most part the hdd hasnt failed? |
| [00:07:03] | Twiggy2cents: | It appears to have started at 6 this morning |
| [00:15:50] | Twiggy2cents: | Can I delete the entries from the db? |
| [00:16:06] | Twiggy2cents: | Why would they disappear? I cant find the files |
| [00:27:00] | wagnerrp: | see find_orphans.py |
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| [00:31:44] | Twiggy2cents: | thanks |
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| [00:32:58] | panfist: | i just installed myth front/backend on the new ubuntu, and i can't figure out how to add media to the library |
| [00:33:02] | panfist: | there used to be something in utilities/setup > setup > media, but i don't see a media submenu anymore |
| [00:33:22] | wagnerrp: | go into mythtv-setup, storage directories |
| [00:33:23] | sphery: | panfist: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Scanning_for_Videos |
| [00:33:30] | wagnerrp: | add the folder you want to the Videos group |
| [00:33:43] | wagnerrp: | and then proceed to ignore me and read those links |
| [00:34:15] | sphery: | there are lots of fish in those links :) |
| [00:34:33] | sphery: | but it was nice of you to be so generous with your fish, wagnerrp :) |
| [00:34:59] | panfist: | thank you |
| [00:35:29] | panfist: | you're pointing towards using storage groups and i was planning on using local storage but i guess i'll try out the sg thing |
| [00:35:44] | sphery: | but, basically, the Video Manager is just another view in mythvideo, now |
| [00:35:55] | panfist: | i have been relying on using mplayer in my previous installation because the internal player skipped on some hd stuff |
| [00:36:04] | sphery: | and you can scan in mythvideo in any view, so no need for a special "app" for scanning |
| [00:36:06] | panfist: | and it says that mplayer is incompatible with storage groups |
| [00:36:41] | sphery: | note that the internal player in current mythtv is not the internal player from previous versions |
| [00:36:54] | sphery: | i.e. try it, again, and you may be pleasantly surprised |
| [00:37:05] | sphery: | (and, if not, we can't fix the problems without bug reports :) |
| [00:37:34] | sphery: | and, eventually, use of local folders is likely to disappear |
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| [00:38:20] | panfist: | out of curiosity why does mythtv have the ambition of providing video player code too...why not use mplayer? mplayer is pretty good on its own |
| [00:38:35] | panfist: | but you know the saying goes that hubris is one of the traits of a true programmer |
| [00:38:39] | wagnerrp: | because that would mean heavily patching mplayer to make it do all we need to do |
| [00:38:48] | wagnerrp: | so we either heavily patch mplayer |
| [00:38:52] | wagnerrp: | or we just write our own |
| [00:38:59] | wagnerrp: | either way, it would probably end up being a similar amount of work |
| [00:40:00] | panfist: | now i'm curious what you want to do that mplayer doesn't do; i could understand a different codepath for live tv or cached live tv, but for playing video files, what's the difference |
| [00:40:45] | wagnerrp: | we would need to write a new UI, we would need to write a new control input scheme |
| [00:40:53] | wagnerrp: | theres all the file buffering code |
| [00:41:02] | wagnerrp: | theres all the stuff needed to support nuppelvideo |
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| [00:41:16] | wagnerrp: | various different forms of closed captioning |
| [00:41:35] | wagnerrp: | frame exact seeking to implement the cutlist editor |
| [00:41:51] | wagnerrp: | and just to allow much more efficient seeking |
| [00:42:09] | panfist: | i can appreciate more efficient seeking, and closed captioning |
| [00:42:20] | wagnerrp: | do understand that we are only writing a player, not video decoders |
| [00:42:37] | wagnerrp: | video decoding is handed off to ffmpeg, the same libraries that mplayer is wrapped around |
| [00:43:13] | wagnerrp: | if nothing else, it means its a lot easier to maintain over time |
| [00:43:26] | panfist: | i can appreciate that too |
| [00:43:29] | wagnerrp: | since we dont have to continually maintain patch sets against a changing upstream player |
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| [00:44:14] | panfist: | i understand about the video decoder thing, i have just found that i have used many players that use the ffmpeg decoder and mplayer has allowed me to play the most stuff smoothly |
| [00:44:16] | earthnative: | when you say that the use of local folders is likely to disappear, that means that storage groups is the only option? |
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| [00:44:33] | wagnerrp: | earthnative: that will be the only option at some point in the future |
| [00:44:43] | wagnerrp: | the plan is to remove all local access to content from the frontends entirely |
| [00:45:10] | wagnerrp: | well, let me rephrase that |
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| [00:45:10] | ** earthnative nods. I must make a point of ensuring I get around to installing a myth backend before that point, then ** | |
| [00:45:28] | wagnerrp: | the plan is to remove all local folder definitions from frontends entirely |
| [00:45:47] | wagnerrp: | in 0.25, the player will intelligently load content from the local disks if it is found |
| [00:45:54] | wagnerrp: | rather than pulling it from the backend |
| [00:47:05] | panfist: | i have my storage groups set up, but i am still unable to finish because i'm not sure how to scan for videos. i'm in a library view, i think, and the menu doesn't have a "scan for changes" option |
| [00:47:26] | wagnerrp: | in 'media library' --> 'watch videos', hit 'm' |
| [00:47:37] | wagnerrp: | earthnative: i dont understand, you need a backend to run mythtv as it is anyway |
| [00:47:45] | panfist: | yup...not there |
| [00:48:05] | panfist: | i see, "group list menu" change group filter, change group view, change group password, add this group to playlist, help |
| [00:48:12] | earthnative: | wagnerrp: yeah, I'm hoping to hook the stored files into xbmc as the interface |
| [00:48:22] | wagnerrp: | panfist: youre in 'watch recordings' |
| [00:48:29] | panfist: | or if i go one level out to just "media library" where i see "watch recordings", the menu just has "about" and "cancel" |
| [00:48:37] | panfist: | i dont see anything other than watch recordings |
| [00:48:40] | wagnerrp: | then you need to install the mythvideo plugin |
| [00:48:54] | earthnative: | (I'm lurking in channel to absorb knowledge, am yet to actually install either :) |
| [00:48:56] | wagnerrp: | in 0.24 and previous, its a separate plugin |
| [00:49:04] | wagnerrp: | in 0.25, it has been integrated with the core |
| [00:49:28] | panfist: | i see |
| [00:49:43] | wagnerrp: | earthnative: basically, xbmc is good if you want a single, independent media player |
| [00:49:54] | wagnerrp: | while mythtv is good if you want to record, or have multiple systems you want to link together |
| [00:50:29] | earthnative: | in my case, xbmc is good cos it's what I already have, and I don't want to implement a whole new media-watching paradigm in one hit, if I can avoid it :) |
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| [00:51:43] | earthnative: | so a mythtv backend is the first plan, purely for capturing digital TV streams to disk for later watching... I'm not too fussed about the time-shift-while-live thing :) ...a full mythtv frontend will (maybe/probably) come later :) |
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| [00:55:20] | earthnative: | (and hopefully, the PS3 will also find it, since my xbmc is on an original xbox hardware, so can't handle HD video :/ |
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| [01:11:44] | panfist: | sphery: earlier you mentioned that the internal player in the current mythtv is not the same as the previous versions, |
| [01:12:01] | panfist: | which mythtv version features the new player? |
| [01:12:03] | wagnerrp: | well... in that it gets improved with each successive version |
| [01:12:24] | wagnerrp: | as in the current player in 0.24 is improved from that in 0.23 |
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| [01:12:33] | panfist: | i'm on version 0.24.1 i think |
| [01:12:39] | wagnerrp: | and the new player in 0.25 is improved from that in 0.24 |
| [01:13:00] | panfist: | i noticed that 0.25 is not listed on the main site, is that intentional like 0.25 is not stable for wide release or is it just out of date? |
| [01:13:10] | panfist: | i mean is the main site out of date |
| [01:13:14] | wagnerrp: | 0.25 is the developmental branch |
| [01:13:22] | wagnerrp: | 0.24 is the current release version |
| [01:15:47] | Oleg_: | it kinda sucks that mythtv is in the ports collection for freebsd, yet freebsd doesn't support most tv tuner cards |
| [01:16:24] | wagnerrp: | well that depends on if you consider USB tuners worth mentioning |
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| [01:16:56] | Oleg_: | freebsd supports a lot of USB tv tuners? |
| [01:17:06] | wagnerrp: | in theory, everything linux supports |
| [01:17:10] | wagnerrp: | see webcamd |
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| [01:18:21] | Oleg_: | why is it so easy for freebsd to support usb tv tuner cards, but so hard to support pci/pci-e tv tuner cards? |
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| [01:19:56] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v wagnerrp | |
| [01:20:05] | wagnerrp: | oof... |
| [01:20:51] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: webcamd acts as a userland translation daemon to access USB devices |
| [01:21:07] | wagnerrp: | you cant intercept PCI and PCIe in the same manner for it to work the same |
| [01:29:06] | Oleg_: | so, this tuner will work on freebsd: http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1192-HVR-1950 . . . 3&sr=8-1 ? |
| [01:29:18] | wagnerrp: | in theory... maybe... |
| [01:29:43] | wagnerrp: | dont quote me on that, i dont know more than a cursory bit of information about webcamd |
| [01:29:54] | wagnerrp: | !seen decke |
| [01:29:54] | MythLogBot: | decke was last seen 337 days 5 hours 10 minutes 19 seconds ago |
| [01:30:02] | wagnerrp: | he could tell you more |
| [01:30:04] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [01:31:01] | Oleg_: | ok |
| [01:31:13] | wagnerrp: | you might have to wait around a while |
| [01:31:19] | wagnerrp: | he doesnt come by often |
| [01:34:45] | Oleg_: | he used a tv tuner on freebsd? |
| [01:35:05] | wagnerrp: | he was the one who pointed me to it, although i dont know if he was using it himself |
| [01:35:19] | wagnerrp: | he was around to work on the make file for the mythtv port |
| [01:36:03] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [01:40:53] | panfist: | ok, not sure what happened, everything was working fine but i updated my video drivers and rebooted, now the backend won't run |
| [01:41:09] | panfist: | i found out when i tried to open the frontend and it crashed and tried to restart itself several hundred times in a row |
| [01:41:31] | wagnerrp: | the frontend doesnt restart itself |
| [01:41:39] | wagnerrp: | thats a wrapper script mythbuntu provides |
| [01:41:58] | panfist: | bad mythbuntu |
| [01:42:05] | wagnerrp: | although it shouldnt even be trying to start the frontend if the backend isnt running |
| [01:42:19] | panfist: | damn it's still going |
| [01:43:44] | panfist: | there's no mythtv-backend log file |
| [01:46:16] | panfist: | ok i see a message when trying to start the backend, error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1 |
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| [01:46:49] | panfist: | that smells like it's related to me changing my video card drivers, but i'm not sure how to proceed |
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| [01:47:22] | wagnerrp: | your mythtv libs are somehow linked against a different version of the gl library |
| [01:47:37] | Oleg_: | brb |
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| [01:49:03] | panfist: | could that kind of linking break in the package level? i'm using the ubuntu ocelot repositories, and i purged myth and any related pacakages, then reinstalled them |
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| [02:54:49] | Beirdo: | which version of the nvidia drivers was it that has issues recently? |
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| [03:08:04] | wagnerrp: | WTF! |
| [03:08:12] | wagnerrp: | maildrop just magically started to log properly |
| [03:09:03] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:09:19] | wagnerrp: | its not that i mind it working |
| [03:09:34] | wagnerrp: | its that i spent an hour and a half earlier today trying to get it to work to no avail |
| [03:09:42] | Beirdo: | it's the magic fix... and the subsequent magic death |
| [03:09:43] | wagnerrp: | and now it just starts working on its own |
| [03:09:51] | wagnerrp: | there was no fix, i did nothing to fix it |
| [03:10:07] | Beirdo: | you musta sacrificed the right chicken |
| [03:10:45] | wagnerrp: | well at least i means i can trace down why its not filtering properly |
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| [03:11:36] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [03:11:48] | ub3r: | hi, guys. :) |
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| [03:32:33] | panfist: | i'm trying to compile and set up 0.24.1 on linux, and after running mythtv-setup then mythfilldatabase, i get "there are no channel sources defined, did you run the setup?" |
| [03:33:00] | panfist: | i did, but i don't have a capture card anyway. i had a problem before where i had to define a dummy capture card, now i'm getting an error about channel sources |
| [03:33:26] | panfist: | there's one relevant google search i can find so far with my problem, that user reported he flushed his databases, tried again and it worked |
| [03:33:29] | panfist: | that didn't work for me |
| [03:33:53] | [R]: | myth isn't really designed to ru nw/o a tuner |
| [03:34:07] | wagnerrp: | you must create a card (even if its a dummy tuner), create a video source with at least one channel, and map that source to an input on your tuner card |
| [03:34:36] | panfist: | i actually do have a tuner but it's not hooked up to anything right now because there aren't any available sources in my office where i'm testing this thing |
| [03:34:58] | panfist: | it's an hvr-1250 which i understand is not the greatest, compatibility wise so i figured i would skip configuration if i could |
| [03:35:12] | wagnerrp: | works great, ive been using one for years |
| [03:35:14] | panfist: | i'm not sure if i can actually get a signal here but i do want to be able to play files from a library in the mean time |
| [03:35:29] | [R]: | no one said you needed to get a signal |
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| [03:55:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, you around still? |
| [03:55:48] | wagnerrp: | aye |
| [03:57:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | what do you think of a routine that combines the functionality of SetParentOf and SetRequires? so I can do something like blah->SetRequiredChild("infile") instead of blah->SetParentOf("infile")->SetRequires("infile") |
| [03:57:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | (no 'Of' at the end of that SetRequiredChild). |
| [03:58:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | or to be consistent with current conventions I guess SetRequiredParentOf("infile") |
| [03:59:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | although I prefer the SetRequiredChild("infile") name better, seems more logical since it's not really the required parent of something, the child is required. |
| [03:59:58] | wagnerrp: | so youre just looking to come at SetRequiredChildOf from the opposite direction? |
| [04:00:39] | wagnerrp: | sounds fine to me |
| [04:01:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes. for instance, I want to add a addInFile(bool addOutFile = false); helper to use everywhere we want to have --infile/--outfile. so that means anywhere I want to use that, I'd have to blah->SetParentOf("infile")->SetRequires("infile"). |
| [04:01:31] | wagnerrp: | that reminds me, i still need some cleanup of the CommandLineParser::ReconcileLinks routiner |
| [04:01:35] | [R]: | fsck it... im going back to 0,24 |
| [04:02:33] | [R]: | wtf, i hit pause |
| [04:02:35] | [R]: | and it crashes |
| [04:02:37] | [R]: | that ain't right |
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| [04:25:11] | Beirdo: | but of course... you won't debug |
| [04:27:04] | [R]: | well its my production machine |
| [04:27:06] | [R]: | i need it back up |
| [04:27:09] | [R]: | i already missed a recording today |
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| [06:04:35] | xris: | gah! go on vacation while cable is out and nothing records.. :( |
| [06:07:18] | lapion: | What you went on vacation and did not occasionally check your myth for status ? |
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| [06:10:08] | xris: | lapion: hard to do that from the middle of the woods |
| [06:10:27] | xris: | sad thing is that it was broken for 2 days before that. |
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| [06:24:47] | wagnerrp: | clearly you need a laptop and a sat phone |
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| [06:37:02] | justinh: | heheh. people who skip mythtv-setup steps & are surprised when they fail |
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| [07:25:58] | justinh: | blimey. there's a nick I've not seen in a while willcooke |
| [07:26:21] | willcooke: | justinh, hello pal! Long time no see, how's it going? |
| [07:26:45] | willcooke: | I finally have an excuse to hang out on irc all day and say I'm working |
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| [07:28:07] | justinh: | heheh. goes pretty well :-) Still digging away at a mythtv theme, in between bouts of family activities. You? |
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| [07:31:12] | willcooke: | justinh, heh. Relying on Myth more than ever here. Got a three year old telly addict who just demands that he watch what ever tickles his fancy and expects it to appear immediately! |
| [07:32:09] | justinh: | can't seem to get our little lad interested in any telly at 14 months old. I hope it stays this way for a while yet :-) |
| [07:33:41] | justinh: | he's more interested in turning the TV off & walking around with the remote holding it like it's a phone & shouting |
| [07:34:28] | willcooke: | justinh, ;) Awesome!! |
| [07:35:48] | justinh: | gonna have double trouble starting in February too |
| [07:36:02] | justinh: | God help us lol |
| [07:37:38] | justinh: | not that I'm theming at the mo though. Got over 5000 photos to tag |
| [07:38:04] | justinh: | it'd help if facial recognition worked on babies ;) |
| [07:43:53] | willcooke: | justinh, congrats!! |
| [07:47:03] | justinh: | we totally rely on mythtv in our house. or rather, my wife does :-) |
| [07:47:36] | justinh: | I don't watch much these days. hardly get a look in, with all the ITV junk |
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| [08:06:16] | willcooke: | justinh, I've got a good mind to "UPDATE channels SET visible=0 WHERE NAME LIKE "%ITV%" |
| [08:06:48] | justinh: | heh |
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| [08:07:29] | justinh: | or just WHERE commfree="0" |
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| [08:07:56] | justinh: | hmm now there's a thing we could have put into xmltv's channel thingy |
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| [08:49:48] | willcooke: | justinh, I see that Myth should be able to interrogate the series ID in the EIT. Do you know if a "record this series" (series link) functionality is in the works? |
| [08:50:53] | justinh: | I know it isn't. It needs somebody with the necessary chops to look at it |
| [08:51:19] | justinh: | same as the trailer record stuff in freeview+ |
| [08:51:47] | justinh: | that stuff is gonna be nice to have in mythtv :) |
| [08:53:38] | ** willcooke googles trailer record ** | |
| [08:54:19] | justinh: | willcooke: it's where freeview+ boxes can show a green icon when a trailer is shown (even during playback) & the user can set up a series record just by clicking on it |
| [08:54:28] | willcooke: | ahh, sweeeet# |
| [08:54:43] | willcooke: | is it transmitted in the EIT? |
| [08:54:45] | justinh: | like the reminder stuff on Sky+, but able to do it from a recording |
| [08:55:04] | justinh: | oh and actually set up a recording from it too :) |
| [08:55:30] | justinh: | the techy stuff was talked about in the -dev channel a while ago. the guy from the bbc who implemented it was in that day |
| [08:56:23] | justinh: | basically, it's not just in the EIT |
| [08:56:44] | willcooke: | bum |
| [08:56:52] | willcooke: | i'll see if I can find the logs |
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| [09:08:34] | justinh: | I think there's some of this 'green button' stuff in the freeview MHEG iPlayer patch that recently went into master, but it's (according to paul-h) not hooked up to anything yet |
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| [09:11:08] | justinh: | huh? saw in a log that stuartm said that the mheg engine is only active during livetv. |
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| [09:11:33] | justinh: | be a pity, that cos the 'freeview+' trailer record stuff is mheg |
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| [09:12:39] | justinh: | oh you buggers. Stop trying to make iplayer work through a proxy YOU MORONS |
| [09:13:07] | justinh: | if you don't live in the UK, tough titty |
| [09:14:06] | willcooke: | justinh, hmmm. Well in 0.24.1 MHEG seems to do something during playback of recorded because I get the "press red" thingy |
| [09:14:17] | willcooke: | perhaps I imagined that |
| [09:14:50] | justinh: | no you didn't |
| [09:15:10] | justinh: | I've got it turned on too, so I get to see the radio channels' MHEG |
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| [09:20:19] | justinh: | hmm. maybe it was before #mythtv was logged by beirdobot |
| [09:20:41] | justinh: | anyway one of the guys is jamesba & some bloke called Dave IIRC |
| [09:21:01] | justinh: | stuarta was taking part in the discussion too, I remember |
| [09:21:19] | justinh: | another developer who fell into the family way ;) |
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| [09:38:52] | justinh: | willcooke: I think I was talking out of my bum about the series record stuff |
| [09:39:05] | justinh: | it's apparently been in mythtv a while, even using EIT |
| [09:39:15] | justinh: | but it's not called anything crap like 'series link' |
| [09:39:56] | justinh: | I wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it though, being that it relies on the EIT monkeys |
| [09:41:39] | willcooke: | justinh, orly? |
| [09:41:56] | willcooke: | justinh, I must have missed that then, unless it just works under the covers? |
| [09:42:28] | willcooke: | I mean, when I say record one of these a week, or in-this-timeslot it does just work |
| [09:43:00] | justinh: | aha. David Waring is the 'Dave' guy |
| [09:43:16] | justinh: | willcooke: yeah, that should do the biz |
| [09:47:43] | justinh: | heh he works at MediaCity |
| [09:48:54] | justinh: | and goes by the name 'ribenakid' on twitter. LOL. enough web stalking now |
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| [15:47:03] | Ankhwatcher: | Does anyone have any mythtv plugins they would recommend I use? |
| [15:48:33] | wagnerrp: | plugins dont change behavior, they only add behavior |
| [15:48:47] | wagnerrp: | so we cant really recommend any unless we know what behavior you want added |
| [15:50:20] | Ankhwatcher: | better scanning sorting and displaying of downloaded tv shows and movies |
| [15:50:44] | wagnerrp: | if you want downloaded tv shows and movies, see mythnetvision |
| [15:50:55] | wagnerrp: | it has grabbers for a handful of sites |
| [15:51:05] | wagnerrp: | although most of them are just set up for flash streaming, not download |
| [15:52:03] | Ankhwatcher: | okay, I'm really looking to get the functionality of boxee in myth |
| [15:52:30] | wagnerrp: | yes, thats the purpose of mythnetvision |
| [15:52:33] | wagnerrp: | online content |
| [15:53:25] | Ankhwatcher: | I think I'm going to set up MythMediaMonitor |
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| [15:54:41] | wagnerrp: | is that the one that inserts crap into the 'watch recordings' screen? |
| [15:55:50] | Ankhwatcher: | yes |
| [15:56:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, we heavily recommend against such action |
| [15:56:44] | Ankhwatcher: | okay |
| [15:57:05] | wagnerrp: | plus its pulling metadata against IMDB, which they forbid |
| [15:57:07] | Ankhwatcher: | well can I set some other system to automatically find and insert content into myth video |
| [15:57:28] | wagnerrp: | just tell it to scan whenever you add any content |
| [15:57:33] | wagnerrp: | takes all of a couple seconds |
| [15:57:55] | Ankhwatcher: | is there a console command which tells it to scan |
| [15:58:03] | wagnerrp: | in 0.24, no |
| [15:58:09] | Ankhwatcher: | I might be able to add that as an on-complete for deluge |
| [15:58:40] | wagnerrp: | might want to read the topic before you proceed further |
| [15:59:37] | Ankhwatcher: | hey, deluge does exactly what it's supposed to like a good boy |
| [16:04:49] | Ankhwatcher: | join #android-dev |
| [16:04:54] | Ankhwatcher: | woops |
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| [17:10:54] | Oleg_: | I am glad the CW network survived |
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| [18:00:56] | esperegu: | is it possible to play HD content on a P4–2.8 and if so what are the best settings? |
| [18:01:45] | wagnerrp: | that depends on the HD content |
| [18:02:02] | wagnerrp: | HD MPEG2, youre probably find |
| [18:02:06] | wagnerrp: | use the Slim profile |
| [18:02:22] | wagnerrp: | Xv/standard, with a light deinterlacer |
| [18:02:28] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: cool. let me try that |
| [18:02:31] | wagnerrp: | HD H264, youre out of luck... upgrade |
| [18:02:37] | esperegu: | hmm |
| [18:02:58] | esperegu: | gues most dvb-s is h264 |
| [18:05:30] | esperegu: | ;-( |
| [18:05:38] | esperegu: | that sux |
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| [21:08:57] | justinh: | wahaha. noticed a new bug. this one's weird. shameless is currently recording, only in the PBB when I enter the screen its recording icon (statetype set) flashes up momentarily – but in playback the time is advancing – so it's definitely recording |
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| [21:31:41] | Beirdo: | OK, I think maybe I like Wil Wheaton a bit more |
| [21:32:07] | Beirdo: | "They're free (as in beer and no-f#$*ing-DRM), and you're encouraged to share them. |
| [21:32:10] | Beirdo: | " |
| [21:32:25] | Beirdo: | in reference to one of his books available as an eBook :) |
| [21:32:25] | wagnerrp: | because he gave you an autographed still-in-package will wheaton doll? |
| [21:32:33] | wagnerrp: | is he no longer on your list of enemies? |
| [21:32:36] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:32:47] | Beirdo: | Wesley Crusher still is a putz though |
| [21:32:48] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:32:54] | ** justinh agrees ** | |
| [21:32:56] | Beirdo: | anyways, got a meeting to go to |
| [21:32:57] | justinh: | "but MOM" |
| [21:33:25] | justinh: | weird recording bug is no longer showing itself. bah |
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| [22:06:55] | M0nk3Ee: | anyone in here got an android tablet, just wondering if there are any plans for frontends / remotes planned. i have tried the myth remote in the market place. good for phones but not very tablet friendly |
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| [22:35:21] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: could you tell me what's at /usr/local/include/linux/videodev2.h:479 on the freebsd slave? |
| [22:35:48] | Beirdo: | my freebsd box doesn't seem to match up line-wise, I don't see any reason why I'd get a warning there |
| [22:39:13] | wagnerrp: | http://pastebin.com/z1jtA9Nn |
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| [22:40:41] | Beirdo: | Thanks :) |
| [22:41:16] | Beirdo: | hmmm, the union... |
| [22:42:14] | Beirdo: | oooh, that's crap code |
| [22:42:20] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [22:43:10] | Beirdo: | I can see why gcc whines about that |
| [22:43:23] | Beirdo: | I'd expect it to be union { } name; |
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| [22:43:25] | wagnerrp: | !!!! |
| [22:43:34] | wagnerrp: | why... |
| [22:43:38] | Beirdo: | but that's how it is in the Linux headers |
| [22:43:51] | Beirdo: | how do you access "discrete"? |
| [22:43:57] | wagnerrp: | discrete? |
| [22:44:06] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/VideoScanner.py |
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| [22:44:38] | Beirdo: | normally, the union containing it would be instantiated with a name, and you'd use structvar.unionmember.discrete |
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| [22:45:04] | Beirdo: | WTF?! |
| [22:45:06] | wagnerrp: | i bet thats the Ankh guy who was in here earlier |
| [22:45:19] | wagnerrp: | i should have been more forceful about 'read the topic before you proceed any further' |
| [22:45:28] | Beirdo: | "For example, I have deluge set up to torrent TV Series, whever i downloaded a new episode, I had to manually run a scan for new media." |
| [22:45:31] | Beirdo: | FWAP! |
| [22:45:50] | Beirdo: | keep hitting him until he learns. Have a 2x4 |
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| [22:46:12] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: not to mention he wrote a script that has the total effect of running mythutil --scanvideos |
| [22:46:12] | Scopeuk is now known as Scopeuk-AFK | |
| [22:46:15] | wagnerrp: | not to mention the fact that he wrote his own socket code to access the backend |
| [22:46:24] | wagnerrp: | and yeah, what iamlindoro said |
| [22:46:38] | iamlindoro: | Delete the page, IMO |
| [22:46:46] | wagnerrp: | and why hes sudo-ing... i have no clue |
| [22:47:01] | iamlindoro: | "This script will perform a scan of all defined storage groups, delete missing videos, and adding any new videos for which it can find." |
| [22:47:03] | iamlindoro: | um, no it won't |
| [22:47:09] | iamlindoro: | the script tells mythtv to do that |
| [22:47:49] | Beirdo: | clue-by-four time for sure |
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| [22:53:09] | Oleg_: | this section of the manual doesn't explain many things: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Watch_TV |
| [22:53:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | I wrote my own MythTV frontend in 2 lines of shell script. #!/bin/sh\nmythfrontend |
| [22:53:33] | Oleg_: | for example, I wanna know what button I need to press to get reminded what channel I am tuned to |
| [22:53:54] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: in some circles, that would only be considered one line |
| [22:54:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | even better. :) |
| [22:54:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | makes me more elite. |
| [22:54:58] | wagnerrp: | say it right, its 31373 |
| [22:55:29] | Oleg_: | also, it talks about a zoom key. I don't have this key on my multimedia keyboard |
| [22:55:46] | wagnerrp: | i think zoom defaults to 'w' |
| [22:55:53] | Beirdo: | NP: Styx – Mr. Roboto |
| [22:55:54] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:55:58] | Oleg_: | oh, it mentions the info key |
| [22:56:02] | Oleg_: | that's what I need |
| [22:56:07] | wagnerrp: | info defaults to 'i' |
| [22:56:15] | Oleg_: | oh, cool |
| [22:56:37] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch: you might be able to even do: #! /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend |
| [22:56:44] | Beirdo: | and have a one-liner for real |
| [22:56:58] | Beirdo: | (substituting in your path, of course) |
| [22:57:01] | Oleg_: | But info key just tells me what position I am at |
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| [22:57:14] | wagnerrp: | are you maybe looking for menu? 'm' |
| [22:57:33] | xavierh: | enter twice I believe |
| [22:58:14] | xavierh: | Oleg_: or space twice |
| [22:58:19] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: mythtv is not designed to use multimedia keys, when it talks about any key, it is referring to the name of something in the key bindings |
| [22:58:40] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Keybindings |
| [23:01:11] | xavierh: | So I was wrong, it is info twice to see the description |
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| [23:01:49] | Oleg_: | yeah |
| [23:03:07] | jams: | nice..mythtv-setup complains if the backend is running, it complains even more if it's not running. |
| [23:03:44] | wagnerrp: | it does? |
| [23:03:50] | jams: | yep |
| [23:03:57] | jams: | didn't notice it till this last update |
| [23:04:09] | wagnerrp: | at most, it should complain to the log if it has no database configured and fails to find anything over upnp |
| [23:04:32] | Beirdo: | I've never seen it go nuts. That's definitely worth a ticket if there isn't one |
| [23:04:34] | jams: | can't connect to master backend, is the ip address set for it i mythtv-setup correct |
| [23:04:41] | jams: | endless loop |
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| [23:05:10] | Beirdo: | hmmm, maybe drop into gdb and get a backtrace so we can easier find how it got there. |
| [23:06:19] | jams: | yeah sounds like aplan. Think my previous update was about two weeks ago. |
| [23:06:37] | Beirdo: | yeah, an update first might be good just in case :) |
| [23:06:38] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:07:06] | jams: | oh i mean this is a clean checkout. I don't remember it doing this two weeks ago |
| [23:07:23] | Beirdo: | ooooh |
| [23:07:27] | Beirdo: | I getcha now |
| [23:07:46] | Beirdo: | sorry, I'm still a half-wit today, it seems |
| [23:07:55] | jams: | naw i phrased it wrong |
| [23:09:01] | Beirdo: | Mmmm, Styx |
| [23:09:13] | Beirdo: | good to drown out coworkers, I tell ya |
| [23:10:02] | ** wagnerrp suggests Cream instead ** | |
| [23:10:02] | Beirdo: | Oh wow. Alaskan Viaduct demolition starts Friday :) |
| [23:10:15] | Beirdo: | at least the south end. |
| [23:10:20] | wagnerrp: | alaskan viaduct? what for? |
| [23:10:55] | Beirdo: | it's a raised highway that is FUGLY and goes into downtown Seattle |
| [23:10:55] | wagnerrp: | sure you have plenty of fresh water up there |
| [23:11:07] | wagnerrp: | so has nothing to do with alaska or water |
| [23:11:10] | Beirdo: | Alaskan Way Viaduct in fact |
| [23:11:21] | Beirdo: | why they called it a viaduct, I dunno |
| [23:11:37] | Beirdo: | the street below/beside is Alaskan Way |
| [23:12:02] | Beirdo: | it's being replaced by a bored tunnel |
| [23:12:24] | Beirdo: | as it's old, and due to fall down any time now, especially should the ground shake and help it |
| [23:12:47] | Beirdo: | http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/projects/Viaduct/ |
| [23:12:52] | Beirdo: | for the interested |
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