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| [00:59:15] | Oleg_: | good evening |
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| [03:31:26] | brockp: | I just setup an hdhomerun and I can watch live tv for a short time but after a while the video will just freeze and then myth will jump back out for tv to the menu, I can start again with no issues, rinse repeat same behavior every time, any thoughts? |
| [03:32:34] | wagnerrp: | running out of disk space? |
| [03:32:57] | wagnerrp: | you run out, recording is terminated, auto-expirer deletes the recording, repeat |
| [03:33:22] | brockp: | 777GB free, |
| [03:33:43] | brockp: | Max required Free Space: 12.0 GB w/freq: 14 min |
| [03:35:49] | brockp: | "Error: Waited too ong for decoder to fill video buffers. Exiting |
| [03:36:28] | wagnerrp: | when is the last time your HDHR has been reset? |
| [03:37:10] | brockp: | Unplugged it yesterday to move it |
| [03:37:42] | brockp: | my homerun is prob ~3 yo, does the current myth expect maybe newer firmware than I have? |
| [03:37:52] | brockp: | Sorry Had myth for a while only recently returned wiht a new install, |
| [03:39:52] | wagnerrp: | the current (0.24) myth is designed to work with a firmware probably from mid 2010 |
| [03:40:59] | brockp: | Do you know how to check firmware version on the HDHR? |
| [03:41:58] | wagnerrp: | you can using the hdhomerun_config tool that comes in the library on their site |
| [03:43:13] | brockp: | Yeah was poking around that only finding how to update not check the current value |
| [03:44:49] | brockp: | There is a 2011 version for my device so I am going to update it can't hurt |
| [03:44:59] | brockp: | well it can, just shouldn't |
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| [03:55:48] | brockp: | ah no love, very strange behavior, when it stops the backend creates a new .mpg file in my livetv storage area that is 0 bytes large |
| [04:00:25] | jedix: | damn, I bought a pre-amp to try and fix my signal issue but no luck |
| [04:00:38] | jedix: | I wonder if I have a break in the cable that affects certain channels |
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| [04:55:36] | Oleg_: | cable providers sometimes compress video shown on TVs. any of you have this problem? |
| [04:55:54] | wagnerrp: | all digital broadcasts are compressed |
| [04:56:07] | wagnerrp: | scratch that, all television broadcasts are compressed, period |
| [04:57:03] | wagnerrp: | or are you referring to cable headends recompressing the broadcast feeds? |
| [04:57:09] | Oleg_: | yeah |
| [05:04:46] | brockp: | So on my new myth setup I can watch live tv for a while with my hdhr, but it will after some time stop, I notice that for a moment the /tuner0/target of the HDHR, changes from what it was when live tv started, should it do this? |
| [05:06:21] | Oleg_: | so, back in analog days, indoor antennas were much less useful devices for getting great broadcast reception than they are today? |
| [05:07:21] | BLZbubba: | in mythvideo is there a way to configure how much of a video's title it shows across the top while browsing through them? it shows about 20% of the screen width and then cuts the title off with ... – leaving a huge blank area before showing e.g. "1 of 5" |
| [05:08:14] | Oleg_: | I used to think of indoor antennas as shitty devices until I was able to capture digital channels with them back in 2008 |
| [05:13:00] | Oleg_: | I still don't understand why outdoor antennas are so much better than indoor antennas for capturing analog channels |
| [05:13:22] | wagnerrp: | BLZbubba: you have to alter the theme |
| [05:13:32] | Oleg_: | I know that with digital, it's usually "all or nothing", but still... |
| [05:14:04] | wagnerrp: | because with digital, that 'nothing' point is somewhere around 70–80% |
| [05:14:28] | wagnerrp: | so at 80%, analog is looking pretty fuzzy, but digital looks perfect |
| [05:14:44] | wagnerrp: | while at 70%, analog still looks fuzzy and crappy, but digital gets nothing |
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| [08:02:48] | wizbit: | im having problems compiling mythmusic on 24.1, ./configure shows whats missing, but when i install slackbuilds of the missing deps, mythtv still complains they are missing, is there a way to find out detailed information of mythmusic deps, ie lame etc |
| [08:03:08] | [R]: | what? |
| [08:03:14] | [R]: | read the log |
| [08:03:23] | wagnerrp: | if configure shows you whats missing, whats the problem? |
| [08:04:09] | wizbit: | MythMusic requires FLAC. |
| [08:04:17] | wizbit: | let me check if the slackbuild is installed, hold on a sec |
| [08:04:28] | wagnerrp: | so install the flac libraries |
| [08:04:55] | wizbit: | flac is installed by default on slackware 13.37 with full packages installed |
| [08:05:01] | wizbit: | but mythtv doesnt find it |
| [08:05:06] | wizbit: | maybe i need a symlink |
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| [08:06:48] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: ok will do, im missing libs |
| [08:09:16] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: oh they are there already, /usr/lib64/libFLAC.so etc |
| [08:12:06] | wizbit: | ive now created new symlinks in /usr/local/lib64/libFLAC* but still get this error: MythMusic requires FLAC. |
| [08:12:52] | wagnerrp: | configure checks for the flak libraries by compiling a very simple application linking to it |
| [08:13:10] | wagnerrp: | if the compile fails, and configure faults |
| [08:13:21] | wagnerrp: | it is because the header it is looking for cannot be found |
| [08:13:44] | wizbit: | header = flac source code? |
| [08:13:51] | wagnerrp: | kinda |
| [08:14:25] | wagnerrp: | the header documents the external interface to the library that applications can access |
| [08:14:39] | wagnerrp: | class definitions, function prototypes, etc... |
| [08:14:48] | wizbit: | ok ill have to find out the slackware way of getting the headers |
| [08:15:26] | wagnerrp: | i honestly dont understand why distros ship independent 'devel' libraries that contain the headers |
| [08:15:34] | wagnerrp: | youre talking about a bunch of tiny text files |
| [08:15:45] | wagnerrp: | its not like youre wasting hard drive space installing them |
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| [08:22:02] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: i have all the FLAC .h files installed by default, im running: flac 1.2.1 is that too old maybe? |
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| [09:27:43] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: this is the solution for slackware 64bit users: ./configure --libdir-name=/usr/lib64/ |
| [09:45:57] | dekarl: | Ankhwatcher / DudeWhoLetHisCatChooseTheName: "service gdm restart" works for me on mythbuntu to sort out everything related to hdmi not connected on bootup etc. by restarting X and friends, might add that to a button on your remote... (tgm4883, what do you think? Would that be a good addition to the base?) |
| [09:47:00] | xavierh: | stuartm: Is there any reason why MythGenericTree does not inherit from QObject ? |
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| [15:47:55] | TLE: | Hey guys, I have been searching a little around, is there still no other way of removing music from the database than to edit the db? |
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| [16:06:09] | jams: | TLE remove the file(s) and rescan |
| [16:08:43] | sphery: | easiest way to do that is to rename the directory the music is in so it's not the one that mythmusic scans |
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| [16:14:51] | TLE: | thanks |
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| [17:00:50] | wagnerrp: | dlirit: if youre not going to be recording TV, are you sure MythTV is the correct application for your goals? |
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| [17:15:06] | dlirit: | hey guys |
| [17:15:27] | dlirit: | is it possible to disable pvr functionality so that the whole Watch TV and Manage Reocrdings kind of menu items would be removed? |
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| [17:23:17] | xavierh: | dlirit: XBMC ? |
| [17:23:42] | dlirit: | no, I want to stick with mythtv |
| [17:23:50] | dlirit: | so I guess it's just editing the menu's xml stuff? |
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| [17:26:36] | jams: | dlirit- correct |
| [17:26:56] | jams: | you can make your own menu theme with those options removed |
| [17:27:12] | dlirit: | yeah cool |
| [17:27:45] | dlirit: | another question is – scanning the video files I have I only see 2 videos with cover etc... is it possible that it's just taking more time in the background to process everything or should I check whats wrong? |
| [17:29:51] | wagnerrp: | dlirit: if youre not going to be recording TV, are you sure MythTV is the correct application for your goals? |
| [17:30:05] | dlirit: | wagnerrp: yep |
| [17:30:12] | dlirit: | cause it's the only media center that can work on my old P4 :) |
| [17:30:19] | dlirit: | and that's why I like it heh |
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| [17:30:36] | wagnerrp: | you understand that the backend will not operate without a configured tuner, correct? |
| [17:30:56] | dlirit: | wagnerrp: ahh |
| [17:31:03] | wagnerrp: | you understand that an old P4 will struggle with anything HD, correct? |
| [17:31:09] | dlirit: | how nice to know :) |
| [17:31:14] | dlirit: | yep |
| [17:31:25] | wagnerrp: | theres a sanity check in the scheduler |
| [17:31:39] | wagnerrp: | if you dont have any inputs bound to a source, it will self-terminate |
| [17:31:42] | dlirit: | anyway backend is actually running... |
| [17:31:53] | wagnerrp: | what version of mythtv are you running? |
| [17:31:58] | dlirit: | latest |
| [17:32:00] | dlirit: | lemmi check quickly |
| [17:32:12] | dlirit: | 0.24 |
| [17:32:27] | wagnerrp: | well the check was put into 0.24 (or maybe 0.23) |
| [17:32:41] | wagnerrp: | so if the backend is running, apparently its happy with whatever you have configured |
| [17:32:57] | wagnerrp: | by default, the video scanner in mythvideo will only pick up new content |
| [17:33:02] | wagnerrp: | it will not search for metadata |
| [17:33:14] | wagnerrp: | there is an option you can check off to automatically run the bulk grabber after a scan |
| [17:33:24] | wagnerrp: | or you can trigger it manually from the 'm' menu |
| [17:33:39] | wagnerrp: | note that each video file will only ever be processed by the bulk grabber once |
| [17:33:52] | wagnerrp: | after which it will be marked as processed, and the bulk grabber will skip it on subsequent runs |
| [17:34:09] | dlirit: | ah |
| [17:34:20] | dlirit: | well it's weird that it did not find any metadata information for like 100 videos |
| [17:34:24] | dlirit: | but only 2 |
| [17:34:28] | wagnerrp: | however, you can still individually call it on your videos manually |
| [17:34:39] | wagnerrp: | in order for the grabbers to work properly |
| [17:34:58] | wagnerrp: | your content must be named in the database according to what the grabber and website in question expects |
| [17:35:01] | dlirit: | with the m menu on a video? |
| [17:35:15] | wagnerrp: | that is TheMovieDB (tmdb.py) for movies, and TheTVDB (ttvdb.py) for television |
| [17:35:44] | wagnerrp: | typically, you name your files such that they can be properly parsed by the scanner, and the database entry set up correctly in the first place |
| [17:36:12] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing |
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| [17:47:24] | sphery: | this doesn't seem right... "#10100: After upgrading from 90fb1a7 to e763b85 hdpvr crashes mythbackend" , so I wondered how many change sets I'd have to look at to find the culprit, but when I subtract E763B85 – 90FB1A7 , I find there are 5.6M changesets between them... |
| [17:47:36] | sphery: | I'm gonna let someone else look through all those |
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| [17:48:29] | wagnerrp: | git diff 90fb1a7..e763b85 |
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| [17:49:09] | wagnerrp: | seems that only works for branches |
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| [17:49:57] | sphery: | yeah, just commenting on how it's necessary to have git tools and a local repo to find out anything useful, now |
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| [17:50:05] | wagnerrp: | no, it works, had too old a tree |
| [17:50:10] | wagnerrp: | true |
| [17:50:41] | wagnerrp: | and it all gets lost in translation updates anyway |
| [17:51:38] | sphery: | yeah, probably want to look at git log 90fb1a7..e763b85 first |
| [17:51:48] | sphery: | (I /think/ that works... haven't tried, though) |
| [17:52:07] | wagnerrp: | seems its something in that mass of stuff daniel did last night |
| [17:52:22] | sphery: | hehe, I haven't read last night's commits, yet |
| [17:52:26] | wagnerrp: | do we have a wiki page on disk recommendations? |
| [17:52:37] | sphery: | that would explain why I didn't remember anything recent that could have affected it |
| [17:52:50] | sphery: | disk recommendations? like space or manufacturer or ? |
| [17:53:15] | wagnerrp: | like... why we dont use raid |
| [17:53:16] | sphery: | I don't remember anything like that, though... closest is maybe file system stuff |
| [17:53:39] | sphery: | there's http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/RAID :) |
| [17:53:49] | sphery: | "Which one do I choose?" |
| [17:54:01] | sphery: | "For recording disks, MythTV will be storing multiple bulk files simultaneously. Normally RAID 5 or RAID 6 would be ideal for such a scenario" |
| [17:54:09] | wagnerrp: | basically, something with all this data... http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /322454.html |
| [17:54:14] | sphery: | "The recommended method would actually be to not use RAID at all, and instead define the drives independently using Storage Groups. " |
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| [17:58:55] | sphery: | I sent a quick update... |
| [17:59:03] | sphery: | but, yeah, that should be in the wiki |
| [17:59:11] | wagnerrp: | to the wiki? or the mailing list? |
| [17:59:41] | sphery: | I sent update to mailing list |
| [17:59:43] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i dont know how i feel about that |
| [17:59:45] | sphery: | it's slow, though, for some reason |
| [18:00:08] | wagnerrp: | sure, it will work if the file is in the wrong storage group |
| [18:00:13] | sphery: | well, that's how storage groups work (and by design) |
| [18:00:14] | wagnerrp: | but... that just feels so dirty |
| [18:00:23] | sphery: | better than users editing db data directly |
| [18:00:38] | sphery: | when you put in a screen that allows them to change storage group in the UI, then we can tell them to update it |
| [18:00:48] | sphery: | (though, really, it will be a moot point with the recordedfile schema) |
| [18:00:49] | wagnerrp: | perhaps something to put into mythutil? |
| [18:01:27] | sphery: | better would be to use mythutil to copy it /and/ update the SG location, then delete the existing |
| [18:01:39] | sphery: | i.e. use mythtv tools for it |
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| [18:09:58] | sphery: | guess that would be the move that someone asked about on the users list |
| [18:10:02] | sphery: | or dev list |
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| [18:10:51] | wagnerrp: | speaking of the dev list |
| [18:11:13] | wagnerrp: | if you develop your own plugin, you only have to distribute the source if you distribute it, correct? |
| [18:11:30] | wagnerrp: | you can use the plugin internally to your organization as much as you like without making it GPL? |
| [18:11:35] | sphery: | heh, sounds right, but IANAL |
| [18:12:09] | sphery: | or could make the plugin just an interface to some completely separate app/process (that doesn't use any mythtv libs/etc) and only distribute the "interface" code |
| [18:12:41] | sphery: | but, IMHO, it's easiest just to play with FOSS in a FOSS world--i.e. if you use FOSS, go FOSS |
| [18:14:43] | sphery: | on that one, though, I was wondering if our, "replace broadcaster commercials with our own" group was back |
| [18:17:31] | wagnerrp: | no, thats some american guy |
| [18:17:48] | wagnerrp: | this person is one of the many indian companies wanting to use it in an STB |
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| [18:35:44] | brockp: | Any thoughts on how to stream audio from my mac laptop to my myth machine? |
| [18:36:04] | wagnerrp: | mount it using NFS and scan the content in |
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| [19:10:43] | Oleg_: | what does "tlamgv" mean? |
| [19:12:39] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.21 |
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| [19:27:33] | brockp: | It is a laptop it comes and goes I would endup wiht all sorts of hung mounts, |
| [19:28:10] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has never really been good with transient external content |
| [19:28:20] | wagnerrp: | is there any reason why the content cant be stored on your myth machine? |
| [19:32:33] | brockp: | I could sync it over, just like queuing up music or contolling audio out from my laptop at times |
| [19:32:58] | brockp: | Currently I have loopback from line in on my soundcard so I can do this wired |
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| [19:33:10] | brockp: | That actually bypasses myth, |
| [19:33:34] | wagnerrp: | there have been requests for a DAAP client in mythmusic |
| [19:33:39] | wagnerrp: | but no real effort towards such |
| [19:35:10] | brockp: | In the past I tried doing the reverse, put everything on myth, and put firefly at the same directory |
| [19:35:33] | brockp: | that doesn't let you quickly pull up something new, |
| [19:35:35] | wagnerrp: | firefly? |
| [19:36:28] | brockp: | I think its dead now was the old mt-dappd http://www.fireflymediaserver.org/ |
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| [20:39:13] | DexterF: | hi |
| [20:39:39] | DexterF: | a bit side-topic, but can one recommend a usb-dvb-s2 module with working remote? |
| [20:51:03] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [20:51:04] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
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| [21:01:39] | DexterF: | thanks! |
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| [21:24:07] | stoth: | user jobs… hmm, I can't seem to make mine start. |
| [21:24:25] | stoth: | added a user job via myth web (as per the wiki), restarted backend. |
| [21:24:40] | stoth: | went to a recording, selected my customer job. It's queued. |
| [21:25:18] | wagnerrp: | stoth: did you mark the job as runnable on that frontend? |
| [21:25:23] | wagnerrp: | s/frontend/backend/ |
| [21:25:24] | iamlindoro: | s/frontend/backend/ |
| [21:25:33] | stoth: | iamlindoro: it runs by hand |
| [21:25:37] | stoth: | (backend) |
| [21:25:45] | iamlindoro: | You still ahve to set it as allowed to run on taht BE |
| [21:25:51] | iamlindoro: | which is set in mythtv-setup |
| [21:26:06] | iamlindoro: | (step 1, general) |
| [21:26:09] | stoth: | hmm, I did set another field to 1…. one sec. |
| [21:26:15] | wagnerrp: | the job settings are global, the allowance to run is local |
| [21:26:26] | wagnerrp: | it must be set as allowed to run on each backend you want to run the job |
| [21:26:36] | stoth: | JobsRUnOnRecordHost? |
| [21:26:40] | iamlindoro: | DB twiddling in mythweb aren't supported, the only supported way of setting up a user job is in mythtv-setup |
| [21:26:40] | stoth: | should be non zero? |
| [21:26:49] | wagnerrp: | and if you have the option checked to only run on the host that recorded, that adds additional complications |
| [21:26:55] | [R]: | wagnerrp: im contemplating update to master today |
| [21:26:55] | iamlindoro: | It's a per-host setting, not a single setting |
| [21:26:57] | wagnerrp: | as it will only run on the hostname that is listed for that recording |
| [21:27:26] | iamlindoro: | (thus it must be set on the backend, in mythtv-setup) |
| [21:27:51] | stoth: | hmm. the hostname field in job queue is null. I see. |
| [21:28:09] | wagnerrp: | if the hostname in the jobqueue is NULL, any jobqueue can use it |
| [21:28:29] | iamlindoro: | but it still needs to be set allowed to run on the host in question |
| [21:30:55] | stoth: | ok. yes, I had to specifically enable the 'allow on this host' in mythtv-setup. |
| [21:31:19] | stoth: | thx |
| [21:31:33] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [21:38:37] | knightr: | oops, sorry... |
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| [22:03:27] | Jonathan_: | Im not sure if this is the right place for me to go but I'm trying to restore a database after an update to mythtv but whenever I try the mythconverg_restore.pl command it says that "command not foun |
| [22:04:00] | [R]: | thats beacuse its not in your path |
| [22:04:42] | Jonathan_: | I downloaded it to /Downloads. I am in the folder location: /Downloads and type it there: mythconverg_restore.p <the rest of my information> |
| [22:05:04] | Jonathan_: | *.pl |
| [22:05:59] | [R]: | ok... and? |
| [22:06:03] | [R]: | [03:04:00] [R] thats beacuse its not in your path |
| [22:06:55] | Jonathan_: | I don't know what you are saying. I'm newer to ubuntu. It's located in the folder and I'm typing the command from the folder. What do I need to do? |
| [22:08:04] | [R]: | ./mythconverg_restore.pl |
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| [22:08:44] | ** iamlindoro is more curious why one would need to backup and restore the DB to update mythtv ** | |
| [22:11:36] | Jonathan_: | Well my issue is this: My mythtv has been working perfectly until today. I updated ubuntu to 11.0xxx I opened mythtv and it asked if I wanted to upgrade my database. I initially said "No" and opened mythtv and everythign worked fine. I closed the Frontend and reopened the frontend and it again asked if I wanted to upgrade. I said "Yes". Since then none of my channels lock (I get no channels) |
| [22:12:11] | Jonathan_: | [R] Thank you. I typed that in but now I am getting an error "Unable to connect to database. Would you happen to have any idea what that is about? |
| [22:12:37] | [R]: | probably because you dont know what you are doing and can't follow directions |
| [22:13:58] | Jonathan_: | I am following the directions from http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore. I am typing exactly the information from the Specific file (with of course putting my file name in the place and the directoy in /bar/lib/mythtv/db_backups |
| [22:15:14] | Jonathan_: | [R] that is why I came to the chatroom. I was hoping to get help from someone who knows mythbuntu and mythtv a little better than I do. I'm following what I can from the mythtv.org website but my lack of knowledge in linux is my issue |
| [22:15:16] | iamlindoro: | There is massive amounts of confusion here |
| [22:15:35] | iamlindoro: | the frontend prompt to update the DB *only* pertains to the plugins... not the backend, or recording of any kind |
| [22:15:53] | iamlindoro: | When you upgraded mythtv, your backend already automatically updated the abckend schema |
| [22:16:06] | iamlindoro: | if you restore a DB backup from before your upgrade, mythtv will become nonfunctional |
| [22:16:20] | iamlindoro: | whatever issue you are having with recording, it has nothing to do with the database |
| [22:16:37] | Jonathan_: | no, not from before my upgrade. This is the db backup after 11. It is the backup it created today saying "if you have trouble please restore this file" |
| [22:16:44] | iamlindoro: | Especially as the tables related to recording content have not changed in many releases |
| [22:16:59] | iamlindoro: | And that backup is only a difference of plugin schema |
| [22:17:04] | iamlindoro: | meaning it has nothing to do with your recordings |
| [22:17:16] | iamlindoro: | and restoring it will change nothing, besides breaking your plugins |
| [22:17:37] | Jonathan_: | So why would none of my channels no longer come in to watch (live not recorded) after I upgraded on the popup that came from opening frontend? |
| [22:17:53] | iamlindoro: | The two have nothing to do with one another |
| [22:18:15] | iamlindoro: | The answer to the question is "they wouldn't, and those two occurences are in no way related, because it's impossible" |
| [22:18:29] | iamlindoro: | If you are having a liveTV issue, it's because of something else |
| [22:19:11] | iamlindoro: | likely because you updated your distribution at the same time you updated myth, and because you now have broken or problematic drivers for your capture device |
| [22:19:45] | Jonathan_: | So should I try to re-setup the backend of the capture device and channels? |
| [22:20:01] | iamlindoro: | You can try lots of things, but backend logs would be far more enlightening |
| [22:20:14] | iamlindoro: | anything else is just firing blindly |
| [22:20:34] | Jonathan_: | Ok. Again as a noob to mythtv, ubuntu, how can I check these backend logs? |
| [22:21:21] | iamlindoro: | find where your backend process puts logs, assuming it's set up to log, and read them there |
| [22:21:31] | iamlindoro: | likely in /var/log somewhere |
| [22:21:46] | iamlindoro: | and since you are new, don't interpret them yourself, pastebin them for experts to read |
| [22:23:14] | Jonathan_: | Can I post my pastebin here and see what you think? |
| [22:24:11] | iamlindoro: | that was the general idea |
| [22:27:05] | Jonathan_: | pastebin.com/UFUvajUt |
| [22:28:15] | iamlindoro: | That is not a valid paste |
| [22:28:49] | Jonathan_: | Sorry. Mistype: http://www.pastebin.com/UFUvAjUt (copying it from other computer) |
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| [22:29:56] | Jonathan_: | line 423 is where the upgrade happened |
| [22:30:26] | ali1234: | how do i completely wipe all tuning data from mythtv and start again? |
| [22:30:47] | ali1234: | i deleted the channels but the transponders still hang around and cause problems |
| [22:31:11] | iamlindoro: | Jonathan_: No, that's where the *backend* upgrade happened |
| [22:31:26] | iamlindoro: | The upgrade you are referring to was a frontend plugin schema update |
| [22:33:06] | iamlindoro: | And since your upgrade, it appears you ahve tried repeatedly to watch the same program on the same channel-- the LSU game |
| [22:33:12] | iamlindoro: | a live TV problem with that could be anything |
| [22:33:33] | iamlindoro: | could be that the way the particular program is being broadcast is giving your new version of your driver fits |
| [22:33:35] | Jonathan_: | thats the first hcannel it tries to ocnnect to multiple times. I have tried all channels |
| [22:33:47] | iamlindoro: | Not according to this log you ahven't |
| [22:34:01] | iamlindoro: | Every single attempt to watch TV from today is the LSU game |
| [22:34:25] | iamlindoro: | Personally, I suspect your issue is the new versions of your DVB drivers |
| [22:34:47] | iamlindoro: | I would start by trying a regular recording |
| [22:34:51] | iamlindoro: | And seeing how that goes |
| [22:35:01] | iamlindoro: | IF that fails, then I would try rescanning your channels |
| [22:35:16] | iamlindoro: | If it succeeds, you can start playing with the signal and channel timeouts for your tuners |
| [22:35:27] | Jonathan_: | Ok. I will try both of those. Thanks for giving me somewhere to start. |
| [22:35:32] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [22:38:40] | Jonathan_: | iamlindoro. I have tried to set a current recording on a different channel and also no going. (it just stays saying tuning). I have gone into my channels and done a channel scan and now no channels appear. If it is my DVB drivers, how would I either revert to my old ones or get a patch for it? |
| [22:39:13] | ali1234: | ok, you press 'd' to delete transponders... |
| [22:39:14] | iamlindoro: | If you have done a channel scan and now no channels appear, you *definitely* have a driver issue |
| [22:39:37] | iamlindoro: | You can't revert to the old ones, they're tied to the kernal |
| [22:39:52] | iamlindoro: | And you'd get a patch by tracking down the issue and writing one |
| [22:39:56] | ali1234: | sure you can |
| [22:40:10] | ali1234: | just get the old kernel and compile drivers against the new kernel |
| [22:40:32] | ali1234: | that's also the only way to track down the issue |
| [22:40:38] | ali1234: | whatever it is |
| [22:41:29] | iamlindoro: | yes, you can compile the old kernel |
| [22:41:52] | Jonathan_: | iamlindoro Why was I getting all my channels before the schema update (that was the update I'm referring to that I assumed was from the frontend. It asked if I wanted to upgrade the schema) |
| [22:42:14] | Jonathan_: | would that schema update also updated my drivers? |
| [22:42:18] | iamlindoro: | Jonathan_: Can't say-- but can say definitively that no schema update affected your reception |
| [22:42:33] | iamlindoro: | no, your drivers are built into your kernel |
| [22:42:33] | ali1234: | what card is it? |
| [22:43:01] | Jonathan_: | Hauppauge wintv-950q usb |
| [22:43:41] | ali1234: | why do i get 25 non conflicting and 134 conflicting dvb channels when i tune, after deleting all channels? |
| [22:43:59] | ali1234: | and also deleting all transponders |
| [22:44:14] | ali1234: | i checked, and it isn't picking up transponders outside my region |
| [22:44:53] | iamlindoro: | could be a number of things, depending on how many channels you expect to receive |
| [22:45:23] | iamlindoro: | Since you're in the UK, I'll presume you're scanning DVB-T and not expecting 159 channels |
| [22:45:39] | iamlindoro: | In which case you are probably doing a "full scan" and not a tuned scan |
| [22:45:52] | iamlindoro: | and the various copies of the network map are stomping on each other |
| [22:46:30] | iamlindoro: | Versus giving it the starting frequency of one transponder will probably allow it to pick up a single copy of the transports and may give you what you expect |
| [22:46:56] | ali1234: | i check, it only found 6 transponders, which is what i expected |
| [22:47:00] | iamlindoro: | Alternately, you could just insert the non-conflicting and that may be fine for you too |
| [22:47:05] | ali1234: | then i checked the frequencies and those are all correct too |
| [22:47:15] | iamlindoro: | 6 transponders doesn't mean anything |
| [22:47:20] | iamlindoro: | Are you doing a full scan or a tuned scan? |
| [22:47:24] | ali1234: | a full scan |
| [22:47:27] | iamlindoro: | Don't |
| [22:47:40] | ali1234: | 6 transponders doesn't mean anything? |
| [22:47:41] | iamlindoro: | give it a starting frequency of one transponder in a tuned scan |
| [22:47:45] | iamlindoro: | No, it doesn't |
| [22:47:58] | iamlindoro: | Each transponder contains the information about the others |
| [22:48:00] | ali1234: | can you explain that statement please, because i hae a list of the transponders for my area and which channels they each contain |
| [22:48:18] | iamlindoro: | And performing a full scan is picking up multiple versions of that map |
| [22:48:19] | ali1234: | and after insertin every duplicate, i have two of every channel |
| [22:48:29] | iamlindoro: | Right. So stop scanning the way you're scanning. |
| [22:48:43] | iamlindoro: | Provide one transponder's information in a tuned scan. |
| [22:50:08] | ali1234: | so why don't i get 6 dupes instead of 2? |
| [22:50:33] | iamlindoro: | Can't say, can only say what has been the experience of others in the past |
| [22:50:44] | ali1234: | i'm getting the copy from the transponder, plus the 5 copies from the other transponders all get merged? |
| [22:53:07] | ali1234: | tuned scan doesn't work |
| [22:53:36] | iamlindoro: | can't help you then, good luck |
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| [23:43:15] | ali1234: | sorted |
| [23:43:50] | ali1234: | turns out, one of the transponders is now T2, so i can't pick it up. so one of the 6 transponders i did get is from another region |
| [23:44:25] | ali1234: | so i had to do a full scan, add everything, delete all channels, delete the bad transponder, then do "scan all existing transponders" |
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