| Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:10] | wagnerrp: | all the pages with linuxtv cards were either removed completely |
| [00:00:26] | wagnerrp: | or locked, with a banner the content should be migrated to the linuxtv page, followed by removal |
| [00:00:44] | wagnerrp: | so... since the page was locked, this twerp decided to add categories to the talk page |
| [00:00:50] | skd5aner: | ah |
| [00:00:53] | skd5aner: | heh |
| [00:01:33] | skd5aner: | do you have an issue if I created the page for nothing else than an officially place to say it's not supported – I mean, it seems people ask every day |
| [00:01:39] | skd5aner: | at least this way we can say "RTFW" |
| [00:01:42] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [00:01:47] | wagnerrp: | sounds fine to me |
| [00:01:59] | skd5aner: | k, I've already started... will get it done sometime in the next bit |
| [00:02:20] | wagnerrp: | we had such a thing for cablecard prior to tuners like the hdhomerun prime being announced |
| [00:02:42] | wagnerrp: | just something brief, there is no linux driver support at this time, use the hdpvr instead |
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| [00:03:59] | wagnerrp: | Korny2: i was under the impression unity was only ever intended to be used for tablets and touchscreen netbooks |
| [00:04:10] | wagnerrp: | it was not supposed to be used for full desktop machines |
| [00:04:18] | wagnerrp: | and especially not ones with multiple monitors |
| [00:13:27] | hoolio: | Korny2, you can use gnome instead, it's still installed. |
| [00:13:56] | hoolio: | after you type/select your username, go down the bottom and change the login environment setting |
| [00:14:02] | hoolio: | i think gnome is called "classic" |
| [00:14:51] | hoolio: | I'm running 11.04 in that configuration and it's fine |
| [00:17:57] | skd5aner: | !url tuners |
| [00:17:58] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [00:19:04] | hoolio: | Korny2, is there some other reason you have to want to love mint? |
| [00:19:22] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_Colossus |
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| [00:24:03] | skd5aner: | updated it with a warning box – should get the point across (one would hope) |
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| [00:45:47] | wagnerrp: | why do all tracking devices have to beep and blink? |
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| [00:52:35] | cxo: | So i just put in a pctv i800 and i installed the firmware, but i get failed to open tuner card when i try scan for channels |
| [00:52:40] | cxo: | how do i debug this? |
| [00:53:10] | wagnerrp: | failed to open usually means something else has it open, or you dont have file permissions |
| [00:54:00] | cxo: | probably dont have file permission |
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| [00:54:56] | cxo: | looks like there is a video group i should be in |
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| [00:59:19] | pikapp: | i am getting the error "cannot login" when i try to access my backend through frontend running on my laptop |
| [00:59:30] | cxo: | when it says timeout, 1 possible channel. what does that mean? |
| [01:00:04] | pikapp: | i am able to run frontend on the server and connect, when i enter port 3306 it says "cannot connect to port" |
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| [01:00:40] | pikapp: | i have tried 10.0.0.*, a dynamic dns domain, my external ip. i have also enabled port forwarding |
| [01:01:37] | pikapp: | Does this sound like a MySQL issue? Is it likely misconfigured? |
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| [01:03:19] | wagnerrp: | is your mysql server set to listen on the network? |
| [01:03:33] | wagnerrp: | many distros set mysql up to only operate on the local system by default |
| [01:05:20] | pikapp: | wagnerrp: would this be configured with /etc/mysql/my.cnf? |
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| [01:06:03] | wagnerrp: | sounds right |
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| [01:17:39] | cxo: | how do you change channels with the keyboard? |
| [01:17:52] | wagnerrp: | up and down arrows? |
| [01:19:04] | cxo: | myttv is so powerful. |
| [01:19:11] | cxo: | ^mythtv |
| [01:24:34] | cxo: | If i want to just use the frontend from another machine, do i need to go through all this backend setup that ubuntu is asking me to do when apt-get installing mythtv? |
| [01:25:04] | wagnerrp: | nope, mythtv-setup is only used to configure machines for recording |
| [01:25:15] | wagnerrp: | if you have no intention to record on that machine, just start mythfrontend directly |
| [01:25:41] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Didn't you already answer his question about spinning down hard drives and he responded with, "I want the functionality but don't like the SPINmaster and don't want to pay for a real implementation"? Guess he's just waiting for someone else to give him the answer he wants. |
| [01:25:41] | cxo: | wants me to become part of the mythtv group? |
| [01:25:53] | sphery: | (on list, not here stuff) |
| [01:26:15] | wagnerrp: | cxo: dont know about that, group setup is particular to each distro |
| [01:26:27] | wagnerrp: | sphery: the spinmaster is for staggered spinup |
| [01:26:30] | ** sphery doesn't know *buntu, either ** | |
| [01:26:36] | wagnerrp: | the second post was someone wanting spindown when idle |
| [01:26:58] | wagnerrp: | and he didnt like me telling him that spinning down when idle is not a solution to thermal problems |
| [01:27:01] | cxo: | argh, i need to logoff and login again for this thing to get the new group settings |
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| [01:27:21] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, but he said that he can't use it because he wants to spin down and he can't use it to stagger spin up from idle |
| [01:27:38] | wagnerrp: | did i misread? |
| [01:27:40] | sphery: | I must have missed his asking how to do the spin down part |
| [01:28:09] | sphery: | hard to follow the thread, anyway--since it's more of a yarn with all the different threads in there |
| [01:28:45] | sphery: | but, yeah, now he's on about the thermal problems--and is assuming his spin down plan will fix it |
| [01:29:12] | sphery: | guess the other user's saying, "I boot with 9 HDDs on a 400W PSU," made him forget about staggered spinup |
| [01:30:49] | sphery: | I really ought to read through Les Noland's reply with his logs/SG config. Wonder what he's trying to do with the hdtv status, now |
| [01:31:08] | wagnerrp: | oh, i thought you were talking about the neil cooper stuff |
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| [01:31:28] | sphery: | I was... I just switched threads to the Les Noland one |
| [01:31:37] | cxo: | if there is a db schema version mismatch does it stop you from using the frontend? |
| [01:32:00] | sphery: | oh, Neil isn't the OP on that thread |
| [01:32:07] | sphery: | I now get what's happening |
| [01:32:17] | sphery: | different people--that's why it seems like 3 threads in one |
| [01:32:17] | wagnerrp: | neil cooper never said anything about staggered spinup, he usurped the thread for his own purposes |
| [01:32:27] | sphery: | yeah, missed that |
| [01:32:35] | sphery: | no wonder I was so confused |
| [01:35:31] | wagnerrp: | cxo: all frontends and all backends must use the same version of the database schema and backend protocol |
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| [01:47:14] | cxo: | cool. i got it working. but the video is jerky |
| [01:47:31] | cxo: | its like its buffer under running |
| [01:48:09] | wagnerrp: | what source? what processor? |
| [01:49:36] | cxo: | its an atsc source, athlon x2 |
| [01:50:12] | wagnerrp: | video card? |
| [01:50:19] | cxo: | like it starts off perfect for a few seconds, and then it all goes chopy |
| [01:50:38] | cxo: | nvidia 7600gs |
| [01:50:41] | sphery: | what playback profile group |
| [01:50:49] | ** sphery guesses CPU+, which should be garbage ** | |
| [01:51:06] | cxo: | playback profile group? not sure what that is |
| [01:51:12] | sphery: | mythfrontend, Utilities/Setup|Setup|TV Settings|Playback, 3rd screen |
| [01:51:15] | sphery: | choose Slim |
| [01:51:22] | cxo: | the frontent has a 3ghz phenom x3 |
| [01:51:40] | sphery: | frontend is 7600gs? |
| [01:51:45] | cxo: | yes |
| [01:51:49] | sphery: | yeah, choose Slim |
| [01:53:30] | cxo: | do i need to restart the frontend? |
| [01:53:35] | sphery: | no |
| [01:53:40] | sphery: | just restart playback |
| [01:53:50] | cxo: | same thing, it starts of perfect for a few seconds, then it starts to underrun |
| [01:54:04] | sphery: | then I'd guess audio setup issues... |
| [01:54:07] | sphery: | PulseAudio? |
| [01:54:21] | cxo: | no, its just alsa |
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| [01:55:00] | mrguitar: | I had to rescan my channels tonight and now mythfilldatabase hangs. Any troubleshooting tips? |
| [01:55:08] | cxo: | what sort of transport system does mythtv use from backend to frontend |
| [01:55:29] | cxo: | does it raw pass the mpeg stream it gets from atsc tuner? |
| [01:55:46] | sphery: | basically--though it goes to the hard drive first |
| [01:56:10] | wagnerrp: | the tuner card filters for one specific set of channels |
| [01:56:19] | wagnerrp: | mythtv simply takes what the tuner card sends it, and records it to disk |
| [01:56:46] | wagnerrp: | the communication between the frontend and backend is a custom data protocol, that provides direct file access to the content on the backend |
| [01:56:53] | cxo: | yeah, its probably too much to go through my network then if its getting 720p |
| [01:57:04] | wagnerrp: | what is your network? |
| [01:57:07] | cxo: | is there any way to setup a cache/buffer? |
| [01:57:17] | sphery: | mrguitar: which listings source? |
| [01:57:21] | cxo: | wifi. i get about 1mb/s from box to box |
| [01:57:33] | wagnerrp: | heh... yeah |
| [01:57:34] | wagnerrp: | run wires |
| [01:57:39] | mrguitar: | schedules direct |
| [01:57:44] | mrguitar: | sphery^^ |
| [01:58:08] | sphery: | mrguitar: not sure what would cause mythfilldatabase to hang... |
| [01:58:46] | mrguitar: | my wife is going to kill me |
| [01:59:01] | sphery: | personally, I'd try Delete all video sources, then re-create video sources, then re-connect inputs, then re-scan for channels, then run mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [01:59:24] | cxo: | so what do these numbers mean in the playback profile? |
| [01:59:32] | mrguitar: | you know I didn't reconnect the inputs after deleting and readding the channels |
| [01:59:35] | mrguitar: | sphery++ |
| [01:59:36] | sphery: | which is basically the tactical nuke approach to fixing input connections/channel problems |
| [01:59:53] | sphery: | mrguitar: if you just deleted channels, you shouldn't need to re-connect inputs |
| [02:00:03] | mrguitar: | hrm |
| [02:00:10] | mrguitar: | that was the only change I made |
| [02:00:13] | sphery: | but if you did just delete channels, I /highly/ recommend re-doing it with the approach I mentioned |
| [02:00:23] | mrguitar: | this setup has been rock solid. I've never seen anything like this |
| [02:00:46] | sphery: | it's the "start fresh from a clean db setup" approach--so you don't have leftover garbage or data that's not linked up properly |
| [02:00:58] | sphery: | (though doesn't affect recordings/rules/...) |
| [02:01:05] | tgm4883: | I'm just looking for a bit of confirmation on a scheduling filter. "new episodes only" will still record an episode if it reairs up to 14 days after it's original air date, as long as it hasn't already recorded? |
| [02:01:09] | wagnerrp: | cxo: numbers such as...? |
| [02:01:25] | tgm4883: | I'm thinking that+a combination of "only this channel" is what I want |
| [02:01:26] | cxo: | those numbers on that screen where you choose Slim |
| [02:01:37] | wagnerrp: | numbers like resolution? |
| [02:01:47] | cxo: | no, on the right hand side of the resolution |
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| [02:03:59] | sphery: | tgm4883: yes, new episodes means 14 days from original air date |
| [02:04:08] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [02:04:09] | sphery: | why the "this channel", though |
| [02:05:16] | tgm4883: | sphery, It's likely an issue with the way I get into shows, but I've seen things get recorded on other channels when they reair |
| [02:06:30] | sphery: | cxo: see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles for overviews and/or hit Edit on any profile in the group to see the specific settings/options (but I recommend you don't actually change the example ones) |
| [02:06:51] | tgm4883: | sphery, basically I'll usually start watching a show on netflix, then switch over to what season is currently on TV. The issue is that any time any channel finds stuff from season 1 that i've already seen |
| [02:07:13] | tgm4883: | sphery, right now I have it set up like you do |
| [02:07:13] | sphery: | in theory, the "new episodes" filter would take care of that |
| [02:07:22] | sphery: | because new episodes won't air on the other channels |
| [02:07:37] | tgm4883: | sphery, let me recheck my schedule for this one |
| [02:08:08] | cxo: | oh those map to the profile numbers? |
| [02:08:08] | sphery: | anyway, you can use "this channel"--just remember it's keyed off of callsign, so if you change callsign, you have to update any "this channel" rules |
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| [02:08:30] | sphery: | i.e. "this channel" is a time bomb that goes off when you rescan channels or switch providers or whatever ... :) |
| [02:09:00] | ** sphery considers removing CPU* profiles from the playback profile page ** | |
| [02:09:18] | tgm4883: | sphery, hmm, apparently I didn't have "new episodes" selected for these two shows |
| [02:09:30] | sphery: | with a note "Don't ever use any of the CPU* profile groups" :) |
| [02:09:38] | tgm4883: | I blame my misunderstanding for what "new episodes only" did |
| [02:09:57] | sphery: | tgm4883: ah, I see... I just couldn't imagine why you'd need both, so that makes sense |
| [02:10:26] | sphery: | I was just curious--"this channel" is ok as long as you remember to update the rule when necessary |
| [02:10:27] | tgm4883: | sphery, it was especially frustrating when they run marathons and it recorded all day long |
| [02:10:33] | sphery: | hehe, yeah |
| [02:11:04] | sphery: | I just noticed Psych in syndication on ION, so I set up my system to record it--they're doing 10 episodes in 28hrs on weekends |
| [02:11:07] | sphery: | it's piling up fast |
| [02:11:12] | tgm4883: | sphery, nice |
| [02:11:22] | sphery: | (but that's why WD and Seagate keep making bigger drives for me) |
| [02:11:35] | tgm4883: | sphery, on that same note, can you get the watch recordings to order by orig air date? |
| [02:11:46] | tgm4883: | I couldn't see anywhere to do that |
| [02:11:50] | sphery: | only inside the "groups" |
| [02:12:03] | sphery: | so, All Programs is always by recording start time |
| [02:12:14] | tgm4883: | hmm |
| [02:12:22] | ** tgm4883 fires up the frontend ** | |
| [02:12:30] | sphery: | but "Psych" or "Monk" or ... can be by oad |
| [02:13:17] | sphery: | Sort episodes in TV Settings|Playback--several screens in |
| [02:13:30] | tgm4883: | sphery, looking now |
| [02:13:32] | sphery: | well hidden--like any good setting should be |
| [02:13:34] | sphery: | ;) |
| [02:13:48] | Twiggy2cents: | Terranova was good |
| [02:14:06] | sphery: | (That's one that will get removed and then will be set from inside Watch Recordings... Just need time to work on it--and motivation to do something that will cause everyone to get all upset, again) |
| [02:14:17] | sphery: | After all, now that MythTV is version 1.0, we can't change anything :) |
| [02:14:21] | Twiggy2cents: | wagnerrp, they addressed the issue with leaving a footprint for the future to find |
| [02:14:55] | sphery: | (it's not v1.0, but it seems many people who complain about every change think it's perfect, so it might as well be) |
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| [02:16:24] | wagnerrp: | Twiggy2cents: eh? |
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| [02:16:38] | sphery: | Twiggy2cents: cool. glad to hear it's good. Unfortuantely, though, since it's good, that means it will almost definitely be cancelled within the season, and likely closer to episode 1 than 22 |
| [02:17:01] | sphery: | he's referring to your saying they couldn't have succeeded because there was no evidence of a prior civilization |
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| [02:17:15] | tgm4883: | sphery, I can't believe I missed that, i looked through the settings so many times |
| [02:17:26] | sphery: | tgm4883: I /can/ believe you missed it |
| [02:17:40] | notlistening: | Hi I have a secondary backend, I can not see the tuner cards on mythweb is that correct and how do i get it to use the secondary backend to record? |
| [02:17:41] | sphery: | only a guy who spends way too much time in the settings code is likely to find that one :) |
| [02:17:52] | sphery: | it's /very/ well hidden |
| [02:17:54] | Twiggy2cents: | sphery I thought I read that due to costs to set up the scene fox just did the whole season |
| [02:18:04] | sphery: | nice |
| [02:18:21] | sphery: | but that hasn't stopped them from failing to air episodes |
| [02:18:32] | sphery: | which is why I craved teh Firefly DVD set |
| [02:20:01] | sphery: | (and--this being ABC, which is the other side of the Disney empire, but--is why I bought Defying Gravity on DVD) |
| [02:20:50] | wagnerrp: | notlistening: did you restart the backend? |
| [02:21:11] | sphery: | though I guess News Corp has more to do with the actual airing than the disney/abc/fox side does |
| [02:21:15] | notlistening: | wagnerrp, which one primary or secondary? |
| [02:21:20] | wagnerrp: | primary |
| [02:21:43] | sphery: | or, really, both :) |
| [02:21:43] | notlistening: | wagnerrp, not recently |
| [02:21:59] | notlistening: | wagnerrp, so restart both now? |
| [02:22:16] | mrguitar: | sphery: deleted everything and I'm getting the same thing |
| [02:22:31] | sphery: | mrguitar: please pastebin the logs from mythfilldatabase run |
| [02:22:37] | wagnerrp: | notlistening: when you run mythtv-setup for anything, you generally should restart all backends |
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| [02:22:51] | wagnerrp: | its not always needed |
| [02:22:59] | wagnerrp: | but if things arent working properly, thats the first thing to try |
| [02:23:15] | xris: | iamlindoro: "details submenu". where? I see no such thing. on the list page I hit M and have: scan for changes, view all detaiis, filter display. then things with submenus: browse by, change view, settings. |
| [02:23:20] | notlistening: | wagnerrp, I was not sure what to expect so i will restart |
| [02:23:31] | xris: | if I hit enter on a recording there to get to its own page, M does nothing. |
| [02:23:51] | iamlindoro: | xris: Wrong menu |
| [02:23:53] | wagnerrp: | restart the application, no need to restart the whole machine |
| [02:24:03] | notlistening: | yeah i am ;) |
| [02:24:09] | iamlindoro: | As with much of mythtv, there is an INFO binding menu and a MENU binding menu |
| [02:24:30] | xris: | aha.. I see "i" now |
| [02:24:45] | xris: | of course, I found it by hitting random keys. |
| [02:24:53] | xris: | so intuitive. |
| [02:25:17] | xris: | I've been using mythtv for years and some stuff still feels odd |
| [02:25:42] | mrguitar: | sphery, I may have bigger issues. the mythfilldatabase log in empty. ...and so is /var/log/messages. |
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| [02:26:06] | sphery: | mrguitar: running mfdb on the command line shows no output? |
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| [02:29:02] | xris: | now to figure out how to get this thing to retrieve all details. |
| [02:29:04] | mrguitar: | sphery, I have the stdout. I was looking under /var/log |
| [02:29:44] | mrguitar: | http://fpaste.org/qBXN/ |
| [02:29:56] | mrguitar: | it looks like it's hanging during or right after a download |
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| [02:30:29] | notlistening: | wagnerrp, fixed, and if i want to change the priority of the encoders how do i do that? |
| [02:30:39] | sphery: | mrguitar: there have been some users who said that mfdb with schedules direct is taking forever for them |
| [02:30:44] | sphery: | like >1hr or so |
| [02:30:53] | sphery: | I'm pretty sure it's to do with their config |
| [02:31:13] | mrguitar: | maybe I'm just not letting it run long enough. I've never seen it take more than a minute or so |
| [02:31:22] | sphery: | did you, by any chance, change anything else (rather than just changing channels)--like update the distro or change fiel systems or ... |
| [02:31:28] | sphery: | yeah, it shouldn't take long |
| [02:31:32] | sphery: | mine is <1min |
| [02:31:37] | xris: | iamlindoro: so once an item has an inetref attached, there's still no way to bulk-grab-details? |
| [02:31:59] | mrguitar: | I did update the OS like 5 months ago |
| [02:32:06] | iamlindoro: | not without setting it as unprocessed, which is available in the menu |
| [02:32:11] | mrguitar: | so this is the first time I've tweaked channels since then |
| [02:32:32] | wagnerrp: | notlistening: delete them all, add them back in the order you want them to be used |
| [02:32:34] | sphery: | at the stage where it's stopping, it's writing a ton of data into the DB... so you need a valid /tmp dir (proper perms and mysql must be set up to use it) and sufficiently powerful system |
| [02:33:12] | iamlindoro: | xris: if you've set the inetref, just press down, w, down, w, down w, etc. |
| [02:33:19] | iamlindoro: | You'll be done in like 20 seconds |
| [02:33:47] | sphery: | On my system, it takes about 3s from download to first post-download comment--which is: 2011-09–26 09:29:47.423 Grab complete. Actual data from Sun Sep 25 00:00:00 2011 to Tue Oct 11 23:59:59 2011 (UTC) |
| [02:34:13] | xris: | aha, that's good enough, thanks. |
| [02:34:17] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [02:34:28] | xris: | now to figure out why it's not showing any of the artwork it downloaded |
| [02:34:40] | sphery: | but I have a small number of channels (~30 or so), a proper CPU (not Atom), and mysql works properly (unlike some I've heard of that take >10x longer to do things than my completely un-optimized config) |
| [02:35:12] | mrguitar: | I don't have many channels, and a 2.4ish core2 |
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| [02:35:54] | sphery: | yeah, should be very fast |
| [02:36:40] | mrguitar: | hrm |
| [02:36:50] | mrguitar: | well I may just let it run |
| [02:37:05] | mrguitar: | I don't think I have much other choice. |
| [02:37:17] | mrguitar: | at least the backend is up and it's functional. |
| [02:37:20] | mrguitar: | just no guide data |
| [02:37:22] | mrguitar: | :( |
| [02:39:27] | xris: | wtf, it downloads but the backend never grabs it. |
| [02:39:45] | sphery: | mrguitar: just for fun, try running as: mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [02:40:10] | mrguitar: | that's running right now |
| [02:40:19] | mrguitar: | I've never run it w/ any switches before |
| [02:40:28] | mrguitar: | technology-- |
| [02:40:46] | xris: | ahh.. fronted is grabbing things, not the backend. stupid perms. |
| [02:40:51] | notlistening: | wagnerrp, thanks will do |
| [02:41:27] | xris: | iamlindoro: there isn't a "retrieve all artwork" command, is there? |
| [02:41:38] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [02:41:50] | mrguitar: | I am running Fedora 15. It seems like I'm not the only one seeing this |
| [02:42:06] | notlistening: | in the uk is it normal for channels to be there and disappear at different times during the day? |
| [02:42:29] | sphery: | mrguitar: yeah, Fedora 15 = ext4, right? |
| [02:42:36] | sphery: | there's a thread about that causing issues with mysql |
| [02:42:51] | iamlindoro: | just run back over them and redownload the metadata with w, it'll get the artwork |
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| [02:43:00] | mrguitar: | yes, but I've been on ext4 since F12 |
| [02:43:06] | iamlindoro: | (assuming you've corrected your permissions issue) |
| [02:43:12] | sphery: | wonder whether btrfs will be better or worse |
| [02:43:52] | sphery: | mrguitar: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/486663#486663 |
| [02:44:03] | sphery: | barrier=0 |
| [02:44:12] | sphery: | perhaps some recent changes to ext4 |
| [02:44:13] | sphery: | ? |
| [02:45:44] | xris: | iamlindoro: for every video file in my library.. gets old. can't complain if I don't have time to add CLI tools for myself, though. |
| [02:46:15] | iamlindoro: | It sure sounds like you can |
| [02:46:27] | iamlindoro: | If they're all broken, move them out, scan, move them back, rescan |
| [02:46:50] | xris: | most stuff in my library seems to require manual identification |
| [02:46:59] | xris: | I had rules in jamu to handle most of it |
| [02:51:18] | mrguitar: | sphery: so /var isn't on it's own partition. Do you think I can run a mount -o remount,barrier=0 option? |
| [02:51:29] | mrguitar: | I've never tried to do this on / |
| [02:51:43] | sphery: | no idea |
| [02:51:53] | sphery: | I'd recommend trying a clean boot with it |
| [02:52:07] | mrguitar: | that's the smart thing to do. :) |
| [02:52:23] | sphery: | hehe, and if it's not working, anyway, it's not like it will interrupt recordings, right? :) |
| [02:55:04] | mrguitar: | thank god Grey's Anatomy isn't on right now. |
| [02:55:08] | ** mrguitar would be dead ** | |
| [02:56:11] | mrguitar: | holy $#@! |
| [02:56:20] | mrguitar: | this is working w/ the barrier=0 option |
| [02:56:27] | mrguitar: | mother fscker |
| [02:56:35] | mrguitar: | ext4-- |
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| [02:57:07] | mrguitar: | sphery, thanks for all your help, and for talking me off the cliff |
| [02:58:32] | xris: | guess we don't do imdb stuff anymore. |
| [02:59:57] | sphery: | mrguitar: wow... glad that helped |
| [03:00:09] | sphery: | thoguh it does mean that F15 is kind of borked for any mythtv users |
| [03:00:39] | mrguitar: | that's ok f16 will be here soon and break more stuff |
| [03:00:42] | sphery: | I'm still using ext3 for my drives |
| [03:00:55] | sphery: | hehe, yeah, we'll see whether btrfs is good or bad for it :) |
| [03:01:19] | ** mrguitar is a proud Fedora user. ........even though he jokes about it ** | |
| [03:01:37] | sphery: | yeah, it's a good distro |
| [03:01:51] | sphery: | and someone has to test out all the scary stuff before RHEL gets hold of it |
| [03:01:57] | sphery: | (joking, of course) |
| [03:02:01] | mrguitar: | hehe |
| [03:02:07] | ** mrguitar works for red hat ** | |
| [03:02:12] | sphery: | really |
| [03:02:15] | mrguitar: | yeah |
| [03:02:17] | sphery: | now I've "met" 2 of you |
| [03:02:25] | mrguitar: | see we're not make believe |
| [03:02:27] | sphery: | you and Jarod Wilson |
| [03:02:38] | xris: | mrguitar: 3 rht friends are one of the reasons I still use fedora |
| [03:02:50] | mrguitar: | I pinged Jarod my first day @ red hat |
| [03:02:54] | mrguitar: | he's awesome |
| [03:03:00] | sphery: | yeah, definitely not. RH is one of the few open-source success stories |
| [03:03:14] | mrguitar: | I'm a huge fanboy |
| [03:03:23] | sphery: | and, yeah--his guide was extremely helpful to me back when I was getting started with mytht |
| [03:03:37] | sphery: | the ivtv stuff was, er, not so user-friendly back then |
| [03:03:48] | mrguitar: | oh yeah |
| [03:03:52] | mrguitar: | I read it many times |
| [03:04:04] | mrguitar: | this is my boss. He's a lot cooler than me: http://people.redhat.com/tcameron/shadowman_tattoo.jpg |
| [03:04:17] | mrguitar: | and http://people.redhat.com/tcameron/fedora_tattoo.jpg |
| [03:04:32] | sphery: | wow, now that's dedication |
| [03:04:58] | sphery: | is the 2nd one an employee or just a dedicated fan? |
| [03:05:09] | mrguitar: | that's his back |
| [03:05:15] | sphery: | oh, same guy |
| [03:05:21] | sphery: | thus the same name in the URI :) |
| [03:05:25] | mrguitar: | :) |
| [03:05:56] | sphery: | I thought skin tone was very different, so assumed 2 different people |
| [03:06:09] | sphery: | but it seems that's just an artifact of the camera |
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| [03:08:38] | hoolio: | knowing how tech goes, what will happen to the redhat tats when the hostile takeover from oracle is announced? :) |
| [03:08:57] | mrguitar: | the same thing that happened to all those guys w/ Sun tattoos |
| [03:09:01] | mrguitar: | :( |
| [03:09:22] | hoolio: | yeah, exactly. |
| [03:09:31] | sphery: | heh |
| [03:10:01] | sphery: | but if Oracle bought Red Hat, then the future of Solaris would be uncertain |
| [03:10:06] | sphery: | oh, wait, it already is |
| [03:10:36] | hoolio: | now ZFS has been ported everywhere, who cares about solaris. |
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| [03:11:00] | sphery: | I thought there were patents or something preventing that? |
| [03:11:28] | hoolio: | the ZFS source was released with open solaris under CDDL |
| [03:11:45] | sphery: | ah, so it's just that it's not GPL-compatible, probably, then |
| [03:11:49] | hoolio: | yep |
| [03:11:54] | sphery: | so that means fuse on linux? |
| [03:11:59] | hoolio: | yeah |
| [03:12:02] | sphery: | ahh |
| [03:12:05] | hoolio: | although zfs fuse is crap |
| [03:12:15] | hoolio: | there are in kernel ports now |
| [03:12:26] | sphery: | yeah, I like the idea of fuse, but don't really trust it |
| [03:12:43] | hoolio: | i ran it for awhile, it was stable enough, just very very slow |
| [03:12:53] | hoolio: | on account of the context switching i'm told |
| [03:13:01] | sphery: | good enough for mounting an ntfs-formatted external drive to copy something over, but that's about as far as I go with it |
| [03:13:19] | hoolio: | ya. and that's slow too. |
| [03:13:28] | mrguitar: | I'm going to split and watch what's left of the Cowboys game. Thanks again for the help |
| [03:13:31] | mrguitar: | cheers |
| [03:13:51] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [03:13:51] | hoolio: | http://zfsonlinux.org/ |
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| [03:14:03] | sphery: | mrguitar: and thanks for confirming the rumors about barrier |
| [03:14:29] | wagnerrp: | someone on castle got cut right down the middle |
| [03:14:30] | sphery: | now when people (like the last one in that thread) complain, I can be forceful about recommending they try that |
| [03:14:37] | wagnerrp: | i... dont really think thats even possible |
| [03:14:58] | hoolio: | on castle? |
| [03:16:14] | hoolio: | "The CDDL does not restrict modification and release of the ZFS source code which is publicly available as part of OpenSolaris. The ZFS code can be modified to build as a CDDL licensed kernel module which is not distributed as part of the Linux kernel. This makes a Native ZFS on Linux implementation possible if you are willing to download and build it yourself." |
| [03:17:30] | wagnerrp: | hoolio: http://zfsonlinux.org |
| [03:17:48] | k-man: | why don't the devs move #mythtv to #mythtv-dev to prevent all the accidental non dev questions on #mythtv? |
| [03:18:05] | larrikin: | I have a mate recently bought an ultra 20 tower so he could gut it and put a PC in there... he likes the case design.. |
| [03:18:42] | larrikin: | he's also completely mad about solaris.. |
| [03:18:57] | wagnerrp: | k-man: why dont the users read the topic when entering a channel? |
| [03:19:11] | larrikin: | who needs topics |
| [03:19:32] | k-man: | wagnerrp, that I cannot answer, but I'll wager the users will not give up not reading the topic when they enter any time soon :) |
| [03:20:07] | wagnerrp: | who likes top-ics... do do do de de do do |
| [03:20:14] | wagnerrp: | we like top-ics... do do do de de do do |
| [03:20:43] | k-man: | i've made the mistake in the past too, it's an easy mistake to make |
| [03:21:03] | larrikin: | its a -very- easy mistake to make |
| [03:21:29] | larrikin: | esp. if you've been away from the chan for a month or so.. |
| [03:22:00] | notlistening: | wagnerrp, if i have a single homerun hd unit and configure two backends to use the two inputs am i going to get issues when the backend is scrapping and the other recording? |
| [03:22:30] | sphery: | away from the channel? |
| [03:22:35] | sphery: | you can't leave the channel |
| [03:22:43] | wagnerrp: | notlistening: you seem to misunderstand how mythtv operates |
| [03:22:52] | sphery: | It's like Hotel Caslifornia |
| [03:22:59] | hoolio: | :) |
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| [03:23:17] | wagnerrp: | one tuner can only be used on one backend |
| [03:23:17] | hoolio: | it's on a dark desert highway.. |
| [03:23:26] | wagnerrp: | you dont need a backend for each frontend |
| [03:23:46] | notlistening: | thats not what i was attempting to do |
| [03:24:09] | sphery: | set up one physical tuner on each backend? |
| [03:24:10] | sphery: | why? |
| [03:24:13] | notlistening: | I was trying to have my secondary backend with as little load as possible |
| [03:24:45] | hoolio: | ..cool wind in my hair.. |
| [03:24:54] | notlistening: | but still able to record from both tuners |
| [03:25:29] | notlistening: | while the primary was scraping or can i not do that, or am i totally misunderstanding |
| [03:25:46] | sphery: | scraping = EIT collection? |
| [03:25:57] | notlistening: | yeah sorry sphery |
| [03:26:04] | sphery: | if so, you can't set up the same physical capture card on multiple backends |
| [03:26:22] | sphery: | each backend "owns" its capture cards--and assumes it has exclusive access to each |
| [03:26:24] | hoolio: | Warm smell of colitas rising up in the air |
| [03:27:10] | larrikin: | colitas make me sneeze |
| [03:27:11] | notlistening: | sphery that is what i thought but was not sure if the backends knew about each others cards |
| [03:35:19] | wagnerrp: | hahahaha |
| [03:35:47] | wagnerrp: | "he doesnt want a sidekick" "how do you know" "lone vengeance... lone" |
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| [04:09:49] | wagnerrp: | hold on... walden's wife is herb's sister |
| [04:14:57] | Shiggs|MB: | blarghhhhhh |
| [04:15:06] | Shiggs|MB: | Hoochster: r u here |
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| [04:35:16] | shawnboy: | Do I need to run mythtv-setup on machines that will only run the frontend? |
| [04:35:31] | ** Shiggs|MB is determined to get MythTV working tonight >_> ** | |
| [04:35:36] | Shiggs|MB: | stupid permissions errors |
| [04:35:53] | shawnboy: | Shiggs|MB, still having problems I see. bummer. |
| [04:36:12] | Shiggs|MB: | yeah >_> |
| [04:36:19] | [R]: | shawnboy: no, its for setting up the backend |
| [04:36:44] | shawnboy: | that's what I thought. |
| [04:36:46] | Shiggs|MB: | [R]: are you gonna be around? |
| [04:36:59] | Shiggs|MB: | if I need someone to help me fix permissions |
| [04:37:03] | [R]: | huh? |
| [04:37:20] | Shiggs|MB: | ?huh |
| [04:37:22] | Shiggs|MB: | :P |
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| [04:38:17] | shawnboy: | Can anyone tell me why I'd be getting "newer TV schema than expected" error when I try to start frontend. Frontend is on Karmic (mythtv .22) and backend is on Lucid (mythtv .23)? |
| [04:38:42] | shawnboy: | ...or actually how to to solve it? |
| [04:38:43] | Shiggs|MB: | version mismatch I'd guess |
| [04:38:55] | [R]: | shawnboy: run the same version everywhere |
| [04:38:57] | Shiggs|MB: | ya |
| [04:39:16] | Shiggs|MB: | was just gonna say that |
| [04:39:54] | shawnboy: | [R], but I assume I can't run newer than 22 on Karmic (what it pulled down) and it pulled down 23 on Lucid. So what action to take? |
| [04:40:03] | [R]: | [09:38:55] [R] shawnboy: run the same version everywhere |
| [04:41:29] | shawnboy: | I'll rephrase... how can I run newer than 22 on Karmic if that's what it gets from repos? |
| [04:42:22] | [R]: | pretty sure the mythbuntu ppa has 23 |
| [04:42:40] | Shiggs|MB: | OKAY! Progress! I got it to work except when I start MythBackend using the init script the FrontEnd refuses to acknowledge that it's running (I have to stop it and run it in a shell) |
| [04:42:51] | shawnboy: | i enabled that ppa... ppa:mythbuntu/testing |
| [04:43:28] | Shiggs|MB: | I assume it's crashing |
| [04:43:32] | Shiggs|MB: | for some reason |
| [04:45:58] | Shiggs|MB: | oh HELL no... it's back to that same error >_> |
| [04:47:45] | shawnboy: | I think maybe I used wrong ppa. ..one for developers. |
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| [04:53:58] | Shiggs|MB: | Okay well now MythFrontEnd is being super slow and I'm getting the tuner issue again |
| [04:53:59] | Shiggs|MB: | >_> |
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| [04:57:01] | Shiggs|MB: | anyone? >_> |
| [04:57:10] | Shiggs|MB: | nothing seems to be being written to the log |
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| [05:01:54] | Shiggs|MB: | ok I got it |
| [05:05:51] | Shiggs|MB: | ok it's working but only when I have the backend running in a terminal shell session. The init script is wonky |
| [05:05:56] | Shiggs|MB: | can anyone help with that? |
| [05:07:35] | shawnboy: | What's the right way to add MythTV 0.23 repos to my systems? .deb file somewhere (I can't find it) or using ppa:mythbuntu/0.23 ? |
| [05:07:37] | wagnerrp: | the init script is fine, the environment the init script runs mythbackend within is not configured |
| [05:07:50] | wagnerrp: | since only two things exist outside the database, it must be one of them |
| [05:07:54] | tgm4883: | shawnboy, .deb file |
| [05:08:00] | tgm4883: | mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [05:08:06] | wagnerrp: | either the files storing the credentials for access to the database |
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| [05:08:18] | wagnerrp: | or file permissions for the user the init script runs mythbackend as |
| [05:08:46] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: ok then how do I configure it? |
| [05:08:50] | wagnerrp: | shawnboy: do you have an existing system? or are you instlaling fresh? |
| [05:09:13] | wagnerrp: | Shiggs|MB: same thing i explained days ago |
| [05:09:15] | shawnboy: | tgm4883, I can't find it. I can only find the .24 deb. |
| [05:09:22] | wagnerrp: | credentials are stored in ~/.mythtv/ |
| [05:09:27] | wagnerrp: | where ever $HOME is set to |
| [05:09:29] | tgm4883: | shawnboy, that doesn't even make sense |
| [05:09:40] | shawnboy: | wagnerrp, I installed on top of Lucid desktop couple night ago on frontend/backend. |
| [05:09:44] | tgm4883: | Did you even read the page I posted? |
| [05:10:02] | shawnboy: | now trying to get frontend only machines working. |
| [05:10:07] | shawnboy: | one is Karmic |
| [05:10:23] | wagnerrp: | if you are starting fresh, you should simply start fresh with 0.24.1 |
| [05:10:27] | wagnerrp: | dont bother trying to run 0.23 |
| [05:10:29] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: config.xml, correct? |
| [05:10:46] | wagnerrp: | config.xml and mysql.txt |
| [05:10:54] | wagnerrp: | the code that reads those in is a bit screwy |
| [05:10:59] | wagnerrp: | they both need to be set up properly |
| [05:11:24] | Shiggs|MB: | they look fine to me |
| [05:11:25] | Shiggs|MB: | >_> |
| [05:11:39] | wagnerrp: | they can be set up automatically by running 'HOME=/etc/mythtv mythtv-setup' |
| [05:11:44] | shawnboy: | tgm4883, hmmm. I didn't see that before . I thought I only saw deb files for specific builds. |
| [05:12:05] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, karmic doesn't have 0.24 |
| [05:12:10] | tgm4883: | 0.23.1 is the latest for karmic |
| [05:12:16] | tgm4883: | he needs to go to lucid or later |
| [05:12:30] | wagnerrp: | well then thats what he should do |
| [05:12:35] | Shiggity: | wagnerrp, shiggity@Shiggity-HTPC ~/.mythtv $ HOME=/etc/mythtv/ mythtv-setup |
| [05:12:36] | Shiggity: | No protocol specified |
| [05:12:36] | Shiggity: | mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server :0 |
| [05:12:40] | wagnerrp: | or, build his own backages from the git source |
| [05:12:48] | tgm4883: | yep |
| [05:13:20] | shawnboy: | if I didn't need Karmic, though, I could install this deb file, then have 0.24.1 available as an upgrade and not uninstall and reinstall everything? |
| [05:14:02] | tgm4883: | shawnboy, I'm not 100% sure what deb file you are talking about, but you should install mythbuntu-repos.deb and configure from there |
| [05:14:25] | tgm4883: | you could probably force the 0.24 packages onto karmic and it might work |
| [05:14:33] | Shiggity: | wagnerrp, |
| [05:14:59] | Shiggity is now known as Shiggs|MythTVBox | |
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| [05:16:17] | shawnboy: | tgm4883, yeah that deb file. I was only using Karmic to test some glitches in another Lucid install. So I'll just put everything on 0.24.1. |
| [05:16:18] | wagnerrp: | Shiggs|MB: does mythbackend run normally when logged in as user 'mythtv'? |
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| [05:16:23] | shawnboy: | and forget Karmic |
| [05:16:24] | ShiggsMyth: | test |
| [05:16:26] | ShiggsMyth: | yay |
| [05:16:33] | ShiggsMyth is now known as ShiggsMythBox | |
| [05:16:34] | ShiggsMythBox: | test |
| [05:16:40] | ShiggsMythBox is now known as ShiggsMythTVBox | |
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| [05:17:03] | ShiggsMythBox: | etst |
| [05:17:06] | ShiggsMythBox: | damnit |
| [05:17:07] | ShiggsMythBox: | oh well |
| [05:17:07] | wagnerrp: | i know someone mentioned already what is going on with that |
| [05:17:16] | wagnerrp: | users with 'mythtv' in the name are banned |
| [05:17:22] | Shiggs|MB: | ahh |
| [05:17:23] | Shiggs|MB: | why? |
| [05:17:45] | wagnerrp: | because they are more often than not trolls who end up needing a kicking |
| [05:17:54] | Shiggs|MB: | ok then |
| [05:18:26] | wagnerrp: | and freenode prevents anyone with a banned username from changing nicks while connected to the channel they are banned from |
| [05:18:41] | Shiggs|MB: | k so why is that HOME command not working? |
| [05:18:42] | wagnerrp: | banning does not result in a kick |
| [05:18:54] | wagnerrp: | but you are not allowed to speak, and you cannot join the channel |
| [05:19:16] | wagnerrp: | i dont know why its not working |
| [05:19:22] | wagnerrp: | it should work, works for me |
| [05:19:39] | wagnerrp: | they only thing i can think of is that its misconfigured on your end |
| [05:19:47] | wagnerrp: | but not having access to your system to tinker, i coudlnt say |
| [05:20:00] | wagnerrp: | if you log in as user 'mythtv', can you run mythbackend from the terminal? |
| [05:20:24] | Shiggs|MB: | lemme try |
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| [05:20:53] | Shiggs|MB: | mythtv for user and pass I assume |
| [05:21:46] | wagnerrp: | i doubt that account has a pass by default |
| [05:21:52] | wagnerrp: | log in as root, and su into it |
| [05:22:49] | wagnerrp: | if that works, remove the HOME line from the init script, and be done with it |
| [05:23:00] | wagnerrp: | if that does not work, run mythtv-setup as 'mythtv' to set up the database credentials |
| [05:23:09] | wagnerrp: | then remove the HOME line from the init script, and be done with it |
| [05:23:37] | hoolio: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Display_Size |
| [05:23:44] | hoolio: | # For 1920x1080 – 1080p 46" TV ~ 1030mm x 580mm |
| [05:23:44] | hoolio: | # DisplaySize 1024 576 |
| [05:24:02] | hoolio: | why would display size not be 1030 580? |
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| [05:25:21] | wagnerrp: | the actual size only affects applications using that for proper DPI scaling of text |
| [05:25:31] | wagnerrp: | s/dpi/point/ |
| [05:25:41] | hoolio: | such as mythtv playback? |
| [05:25:55] | wagnerrp: | mythtv no longer behaves that way, text is scaled as a percentage of the screen size |
| [05:26:02] | wagnerrp: | so as resolution changes, text remains in the same place |
| [05:26:20] | wagnerrp: | the only thing that matters to playback is the aspect ratio |
| [05:26:21] | hoolio: | okay. you might recall yesterday you said i should specify a displaysize because i was getting letterboxing during playback |
| [05:26:40] | wagnerrp: | and 1024x576 and 1030x580 are roughly the same aspect ratio |
| [05:26:45] | hoolio: | okay |
| [05:26:52] | hoolio: | so |
| [05:26:53] | wagnerrp: | why it claims one, and then says the other, i have no clue |
| [05:26:58] | hoolio: | ok |
| [05:27:01] | wagnerrp: | for mythtv's purposes, it really doesnt matter |
| [05:27:08] | wagnerrp: | only the aspect ratio matters |
| [05:27:18] | hoolio: | ok |
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| [05:27:29] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: I don't quite understand what you're telling me to do. When I log in as root, how would I use anything 'mythtv' has access to? |
| [05:27:43] | wagnerrp: | 'su – mythtv' |
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| [05:28:08] | wagnerrp: | or you can just create a password for mythtv |
| [05:28:22] | Shiggs|MB: | yeah I did |
| [05:28:42] | Shiggs|MB: | I ran mythbackend but then it complains of a missing database and dies out |
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| [05:29:10] | Shiggs|MB: | hmm |
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| [05:32:31] | shiggity: | wagnerrp, Shiggity-HTPC shiggity # su – mythtv |
| [05:32:31] | shiggity: | mythtv@Shiggity-HTPC ~ $ mythtv-setup |
| [05:32:31] | shiggity: | No protocol specified |
| [05:32:31] | shiggity: | mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server :0 |
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| [05:34:24] | Shiggs|MB: | O_o; |
| [05:34:27] | Shiggs|MB: | that doesn't make sense |
| [05:35:12] | wagnerrp: | user 'mythtv' does not have rights to root's X server |
| [05:35:26] | wagnerrp: | if youve given mythtv a password, log in as mythtv instead |
| [05:35:42] | Shiggs|MB: | KDE doesn't like that though >_< |
| [05:35:59] | wagnerrp: | so dont use kde? |
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| [05:38:02] | Shiggs|MB: | ok I can log in fine using WindowMaker |
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| [05:42:52] | Shiggs|MB: | YAY FINALLY WORKING |
| [05:42:53] | Shiggs|MB: | w00t w00t |
| [05:43:01] | hoolio: | yay! :) |
| [05:43:46] | Shiggs|MB: | ^.^.^ |
| [05:43:56] | Shiggs|MB: | I hope on reboot the BE loads and I can access it properly |
| [05:46:12] | hoolio: | but KDE is the worlds best window manager |
| [05:46:14] | hoolio: | isn't it? |
| [05:46:36] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [05:46:41] | wagnerrp: | kde is not a window manager |
| [05:46:54] | hoolio: | looks like a window manager to me |
| [05:47:06] | wagnerrp: | kde is a desktop environment that also provides a window manager |
| [05:47:51] | hoolio: | so it is a window manager |
| [05:47:57] | hoolio: | and other stuff too ;) |
| [05:48:03] | wagnerrp: | it is also a window manager |
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| [05:48:20] | wagnerrp: | thats like saying laptops are also a paperweight |
| [05:48:28] | hoolio: | :) |
| [05:49:25] | hoolio: | do you mean laptops aren't paperweights? |
| [05:49:39] | wagnerrp: | they are also paperweights |
| [05:50:10] | hoolio: | so, in order for something to be only a paperweight, it may not perform any other function? |
| [05:50:42] | wagnerrp: | well any paperweight can be a bludgeoning weapon |
| [05:50:48] | wagnerrp: | but its primary purpose is a paperweight |
| [05:51:08] | wagnerrp: | in order for something to be only a window manager, that has to be its primary purpose |
| [05:52:06] | hoolio: | but isn't "primary purpose" subjective? |
| [05:52:20] | hoolio: | if i intend to bludgeon someone with it, then that becomes it's primary purpose. |
| [05:52:21] | wagnerrp: | sure |
| [05:52:54] | wagnerrp: | a window manager manages Z-level and focus, can provide things like taskbar, start menu, virtual windowing |
| [05:53:15] | hoolio: | which KDE does. |
| [05:53:28] | wagnerrp: | when they start adding things like file managers, login managers, mounting daemons, sound servers, ... |
| [05:53:43] | hoolio: | it becomes a fat windowing manager ;) |
| [05:53:48] | wagnerrp: | it stops being a window manager, and becomes a desktop environment that also serves as a window manager |
| [05:54:13] | wagnerrp: | its like saying mythtv is a video player |
| [05:54:21] | hoolio: | well.. it is |
| [05:54:25] | hoolio: | among other things |
| [05:54:31] | wagnerrp: | it also has a video player |
| [05:54:45] | hoolio: | it's many things to many people |
| [05:54:52] | hoolio: | but not all the same to everyone |
| [05:56:17] | hoolio: | what is myth by the way? |
| [05:56:26] | hoolio: | formally |
| [05:56:36] | hoolio: | i've been saying it's a pvr |
| [05:56:47] | hoolio: | but i'm not sure if thats right or not |
| [05:56:58] | wagnerrp: | PVR slash HTPC software |
| [05:57:07] | hoolio: | slash |
| [05:57:10] | hoolio: | ok |
| [05:59:24] | hoolio: | so, wagnerrp, why do you develop myth? |
| [05:59:28] | hoolio: | what drives you? |
| [05:59:36] | hoolio: | ;) how corny |
| [05:59:42] | hoolio: | but i am curious |
| [05:59:59] | wagnerrp: | i use it? |
| [06:00:28] | hoolio: | sure, but you use <insert other FOSS software here> too |
| [06:00:29] | hoolio: | why myth |
| [06:00:54] | wagnerrp: | i wanted to change things related to it |
| [06:01:37] | hoolio: | and i take it you did that |
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| [06:05:37] | clydefrog: | Hello |
| [06:06:11] | clydefrog: | Having an issue with the HD PVR |
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| [06:06:45] | clydefrog: | Channels are setup, HD PVR is loaded and recognized. |
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| [06:07:06] | clydefrog: | Cannot watch live tv |
| [06:07:29] | clydefrog: | I believe it has something to do with the input connections |
| [06:07:53] | clydefrog: | Receiving no signal and no lock on channels |
| [06:08:04] | clydefrog: | halp? |
| [06:08:20] | wagnerrp: | can you post your backend logs? |
| [06:08:58] | clydefrog: | one moment |
| [06:13:12] | clydefrog: | Gathered following logs |
| [06:13:12] | clydefrog: | === Mythbackend Log === |
| [06:13:12] | clydefrog: | === Mythbackend Log === |
| [06:13:12] | clydefrog: | === /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log === |
| [06:13:12] | clydefrog: | 2011-09–27 01:35:38.046 mythbackend version: fixes/0.24 [v0.24-243-g9ba3ece] www.mythtv.org |
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| [06:13:27] | hoolio: | :) |
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| [06:13:37] | hoolio: | * clydefrog has quit (Excess Flood) |
| [06:13:56] | clydefrog: | wow, sorry |
| [06:14:01] | wagnerrp: | whey i say "post your backend logs" |
| [06:14:08] | clydefrog: | http://pastebin.com/jFFSLHgc |
| [06:14:11] | wagnerrp: | i mean "post them to pastebin, and give us the link" |
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| [06:14:29] | wagnerrp: | and then stick around so we can give advice |
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| [06:15:40] | clydefrog: | sorry about that |
| [06:15:53] | clydefrog: | please halp -> http://pastebin.com/jFFSLHgc |
| [06:19:10] | wagnerrp: | what is your starting channel set to? |
| [06:19:19] | clydefrog: | 2 |
| [06:19:32] | wagnerrp: | now is that the spinbox or editbox? |
| [06:19:57] | clydefrog: | im sorry? |
| [06:20:09] | wagnerrp: | spinbox is the one with the dropdown |
| [06:20:13] | clydefrog: | ah |
| [06:20:16] | wagnerrp: | editbox is just the blank text entry field |
| [06:20:52] | clydefrog: | it was 2 automatically from the fetched data. I did populate the other field with a 2 as well though |
| [06:20:58] | clydefrog: | so both |
| [06:21:08] | wagnerrp: | thats the problem |
| [06:21:26] | wagnerrp: | the text edit field is intended to pre-set a tuner, when using an external tuner (like a set top box) |
| [06:21:36] | wagnerrp: | since the HDPVR is not a tuner, mythtv fails when trying to tune it to a channel |
| [06:21:41] | wagnerrp: | resulting in your issues |
| [06:22:08] | wagnerrp: | set that field back to blank |
| [06:22:15] | clydefrog: | okay, giving it a shot here when the database finishes populating again |
| [06:23:18] | wagnerrp: | populating.... mythfilldatabase pulling from schedules direct? |
| [06:23:53] | clydefrog: | yep |
| [06:24:10] | clydefrog: | just finished. launching now |
| [06:24:17] | ** wagnerrp heads to bed ** | |
| [06:25:41] | hoolio: | night night |
| [06:25:44] | clydefrog: | thanks for the help |
| [06:26:08] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: thanks again :) |
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| [08:21:43] | shawnboy: | I shouldn't have to run mythtv-setup or mythbackend on a PC where I only run frontend, should I? |
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| [08:41:00] | k-man: | shawnboy, no don't think so |
| [08:41:06] | k-man: | shawnboy, why whats happening? |
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| [08:50:39] | shawnboy: | thanks k-man. I just upgraded backend and a frontend to 0.24.x and when I start frontend it crashes after saying it's 10 database versions behind. Tells me to run mythtv-setup or mythbackend. |
| [08:50:49] | shawnboy: | I'm not sure what to do at this point. |
| [08:52:55] | k-man: | did you restart the backend already? |
| [08:53:07] | k-man: | sounds like the backend is running the old version at a guess |
| [08:55:29] | shawnboy: | k-man, I rebooted it after upgrade. |
| [08:55:54] | k-man: | shawnboy, yes but it may have not started the new myth-backend binary |
| [08:56:06] | shawnboy: | I just ran mythbackend on that machine (backend) and it says correct ver 0.24.1... |
| [08:56:11] | k-man: | shawnboy, do mythbackend -v |
| [08:56:23] | k-man: | ok, do mythfrondend -v |
| [08:56:31] | k-man: | paste output from each to a pastebin pleaes |
| [08:56:51] | k-man: | shawnboy, what distro are you using? did you compile from source or install packages from a distro? |
| [08:58:17] | shawnboy: | it says missing argument to -v |
| [08:58:27] | shawnboy: | running Lucid 10.04 LTS |
| [08:59:00] | k-man: | errm hang on |
| [08:59:58] | k-man: | oh, I don't remember how to get the version from mythfrontend in .24 |
| [09:00:08] | k-man: | oh |
| [09:00:10] | k-man: | --version |
| [09:00:22] | k-man: | maybe its the same in the backend |
| [09:00:33] | k-man: | what is lucid? |
| [09:00:50] | k-man: | a version of ubuntu? |
| [09:01:51] | shawnboy: | oh sorry, yes, Ubuntu. |
| [09:02:35] | k-man: | did you do a version and compare? |
| [09:02:40] | k-man: | anyway, I have to go |
| [09:03:14] | shawnboy: | http://pastebin.com/MjztLYya |
| [09:03:23] | shawnboy: | same |
| [09:03:26] | shawnboy: | version |
| [09:04:55] | k-man: | are backend and frontend on the same machine? |
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| [09:05:17] | shawnboy: | that and a frontend on another machine too, but right now same prob on both |
| [09:05:37] | k-man: | run mythbackend -v database and paste the output |
| [09:05:58] | k-man: | I mean – kill the backend first, then run that |
| [09:05:58] | shawnboy: | i installed mythbuntu repos from distro then upgraded from 0.23 to 0.24 |
| [09:06:13] | k-man: | sorry, I really have to run now |
| [09:06:18] | k-man: | bye |
| [09:06:35] | shawnboy: | k. thannks |
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| [11:44:52] | Twiggy2cents: | I am looking for another tuner card. There is so many choices, is there a personal reccomendation? |
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| [13:25:14] | Korny1: | Good morning |
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| [14:25:13] | k-man: | Twiggy2cents, hdhomerun |
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| [16:07:22] | iamlindoro: | Well, Terra Nova was surprisingly not awful |
| [16:09:12] | wagnerrp: | i like how 150yrs from now, theyre still using modern firearms |
| [16:09:16] | wagnerrp: | ... that shoot lasers... |
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| [16:13:32] | iamlindoro: | Firearms have changed relatively little in the last 150 years, it's reasonable to assume we'll still be using some variation on them in another 150 |
| [16:14:19] | iamlindoro: | Of course, it's expensive Sci Fi on Fox, so I should probably just delete it now and try to pretend I never saw it |
| [16:15:30] | wagnerrp: | its not that they'll look similar, ive got no problem with that |
| [16:15:44] | wagnerrp: | i mean the grip is not going to change considerably, period |
| [16:16:24] | wagnerrp: | but they just took a standard 9mm and slapped some plastic onto the front |
| [16:16:53] | wagnerrp: | they spend that much on the set, vehicles, CG... and then cheap out on props like that? |
| [16:16:59] | iamlindoro: | So? the most popular pistol model in the world was first manufactured in 1911, and survives today with no modification |
| [16:17:28] | wagnerrp: | yes, and it only looks like that because it fires bullets |
| [16:17:45] | iamlindoro: | Which is what the pistols on Terra Nova fire |
| [16:17:55] | iamlindoro: | Not all the weapons are lasers |
| [16:18:32] | iamlindoro: | When the captive dude tried to shoot the commander guy, his weapon fired conventional ammo |
| [16:18:41] | ** iamlindoro cannot believe he is having this conversation ;) ** | |
| [16:19:17] | wagnerrp: | well, it was just jarring at the beginning, when he pulled the slightly modified 9mm out of his napsack, and then sliced a can in half with it |
| [16:19:28] | iamlindoro: | That wasn't a pistol at all |
| [16:19:31] | iamlindoro: | it was something pen shaped |
| [16:19:34] | wagnerrp: | in any case, i agree... it was surprisingly not awful |
| [16:19:47] | wagnerrp: | where was the slightly modified 9mm then? |
| [16:20:03] | iamlindoro: | That was for use when he escaped |
| [16:20:14] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [16:20:32] | iamlindoro: | But anyway, not awful ;) |
| [16:20:54] | iamlindoro: | We'll see if they make it "dino of the week" or if they actually delve into the backstory/conspiracy/etc. which would be more interesting to me |
| [16:21:05] | JEDIDIAH__: | slightly modified firearms actually work pretty well in SciFi for the guns that are obscure... |
| [16:21:10] | iamlindoro: | With the latter being way more likely to get canceled |
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| [16:29:59] | jams: | and thats why it's recorded, but haven't watched it yet |
| [16:31:13] | wagnerrp: | so new printer |
| [16:31:24] | wagnerrp: | black laser, scanner, with document feeder |
| [16:31:32] | wagnerrp: | you cant get a document feeder without a fax machine... |
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| [16:31:40] | wagnerrp: | ... any worth actually hooking up the modem? |
| [16:32:31] | jams: | guess that depends on your usage. I end up faxing something like once or twice a year. So mine is hooked up |
| [16:32:36] | jams: | plus i like the ringtone =) |
| [16:33:00] | jams: | which printer did you get anyhow? |
| [16:33:28] | wagnerrp: | HP M1212 |
| [16:33:43] | wagnerrp: | it was like $150 on newegg |
| [16:34:06] | wagnerrp: | replaced a much older laser that inexplicably just stopped printing |
| [16:34:19] | wagnerrp: | drivers reported no issues, printer had no blinking lights |
| [16:34:33] | wagnerrp: | it just pushed the page to the printer and nothing further happened |
| [16:35:11] | jams: | it had printed enough pages that the builtin hp self destruct mode was triggered |
| [16:35:46] | wagnerrp: | hehe |
| [16:35:56] | wagnerrp: | i thought only the inkjet ones had those |
| [16:35:57] | iamlindoro: | Everyone should own a Laserjet 4 |
| [16:36:01] | iamlindoro: | the last model without self destruct |
| [16:36:32] | wagnerrp: | i actually had one of those |
| [16:37:04] | wagnerrp: | s/had/briefly borrowed one from work/ |
| [16:37:18] | jams: | once my current hp inkjet dies, i'm done with HP printers for a while. |
| [16:37:19] | wagnerrp: | must have been connected to... a pentium 1? |
| [16:37:40] | jams: | wagnerrp- yeah that sounds about right for the upper end of the timescale |
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| [16:42:32] | wagnerrp: | something just seems wrong, connecting to a computer over vnc to have it print to something sitting next to me |
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| [16:49:01] | wagnerrp: | cripes |
| [16:49:23] | wagnerrp: | the driver set is 200MB because it comes with a 50min instructional video on how to use the thing |
| [16:49:49] | iamlindoro: | Don't forget the "HP Customer Experience Improvement Program" |
| [16:50:01] | iamlindoro: | Which helpfully nags you every day or two to send your data to HP |
| [16:51:03] | wagnerrp: | yeah, why cant just just release a bare print and twain |
| [16:51:07] | wagnerrp: | driver |
| [16:53:26] | wagnerrp: | 'click here to download XPS driver' |
| [16:53:38] | wagnerrp: | wait... what application is that im installing currently? |
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| [17:12:07] | larrikin: | I know it sounds weird, but I can recommend Dell laser printers .. with the caveats being the cost of toner and all that goes along with it.. id chips and the like. Otherwise, if you're happy to steal the toner they make good printers (using other peoples tech) |
| [17:12:39] | wagnerrp: | steal the toner? |
| [17:12:56] | larrikin: | well, its not like anyone can afford to buy it.. |
| [17:13:23] | wagnerrp: | its cheaper than inkjet ink |
| [17:14:19] | larrikin: | maybe in your part of the world.. it costs me just under $300 for a full kit of toner for eg. a 3010cn |
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| [17:18:13] | pikapp: | I have ran mythfilldatabase multiple times, but I am still getting an error that my databascheme is '10 versions behind' |
| [17:19:39] | pikapp: | I am using gentoo and emerged yesterday? the mythfrontend on the machine running mythbackend does not give the error, only when I connect from other machines |
| [17:19:57] | pikapp: | I have tried connecting with OS X and Ubuntu boxes and both installations for those was done yesterday as well |
| [17:21:38] | pikapp: | I have ran mythtv-setup on the backend, I am able to look at MythWeb |
| [17:23:01] | pikapp: | MythTV Version : 27077 |
| [17:23:25] | skd5aner: | I've got a Dell 3100cn laser printer – toner isn't that bad, but honestly in 5 years I've only had to buy a full extra set once, maybe twice |
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| [17:24:30] | skd5aner: | and according the stats, I've put 6193 pages through it, assuming that number hasn't reset itself since I got it in 2005 |
| [17:25:12] | wagnerrp: | larrikin: yes, and that $300 toner cartridge will last for several thousand pages |
| [17:25:31] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to a $50 inket cartridge which might last for a couple hundred if youre lucky |
| [17:25:49] | wagnerrp: | so yes, per page, they are much cheaper |
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| [17:27:28] | larrikin: | wagnerrp: yep, no doubting that there is even worse value out there.. but as someone who has in the past been involved in repair of copiers and lasers I know the real cost of such things... toner/developer/drum units/cleaning blades/corona wire etc... |
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| [17:33:28] | wagnerrp: | fancy, this thing supports ipv6 |
| [17:39:07] | larrikin: | endless.com have 20% off shoes w/ code, til tomorrow |
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| [17:48:31] | Beirdo: | you know what's lame? |
| [17:48:43] | Beirdo: | the furthest north I've ever been... not even in Canada |
| [17:49:07] | Beirdo: | in North America... it's Bellingham, WA. In the world: London, UK |
| [17:49:26] | larrikin: | and south? |
| [17:49:36] | Beirdo: | south coast of Puerto Rico |
| [17:51:06] | Beirdo: | furthest east: Budapest, Hungary. Furthest West... be pretty close between Tacoma, Portland and Silicon Valley |
| [17:51:24] | Beirdo: | I need to fix that all with a trip to Alaska |
| [17:51:25] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [17:51:37] | Beirdo: | still wouldn't be Canada though. hehe |
| [17:51:45] | larrikin: | you might be able to see Russia from your hotel |
| [17:52:22] | Beirdo: | now in a plane, that's another story |
| [17:52:48] | Beirdo: | I've flown over Greenland and Iceland on the way back from Europe |
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| [17:53:08] | larrikin: | Why not try patagonia, antartica ? |
| [17:53:18] | Beirdo: | because that's not north :) |
| [17:53:25] | larrikin: | true, there is that |
| [17:53:47] | larrikin: | but its still cold |
| [17:53:53] | Beirdo: | aye |
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| [17:54:16] | larrikin: | you're better travelled than I.. |
| [17:54:25] | Beirdo: | I should plan a trip to New Zealand to fix the south :) |
| [17:54:30] | wagnerrp: | fly over doesnt count |
| [17:54:32] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [17:54:44] | Beirdo: | yeah, I know. |
| [17:54:59] | wagnerrp: | ive technically been to san francisco, but its meaningless when i never left the airport |
| [17:55:07] | Beirdo: | London barely counts, but I did spend hours in Heathrow |
| [17:55:26] | Beirdo: | 51 degrees and change N |
| [17:55:51] | larrikin: | I've been to philippines many yrs ago.. india (business related) other than that, haven't left .au .. |
| [17:56:18] | Beirdo: | yeah well, I'd like to visit .au sometime, but it's just SO far away :) |
| [17:56:43] | Beirdo: | but the south end of .nz IS further south |
| [17:56:43] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:56:50] | larrikin: | ..and besides, we have the biggest collection of poisoness things right ? |
| [17:57:27] | larrikin: | *poisonous? |
| [17:58:18] | Beirdo: | that is true |
| [17:58:39] | Beirdo: | well, the Amazon may or may not have you beat, but it's more undiscovered stuff there |
| [17:59:01] | Beirdo: | for known poisonous/venomous animals, .au rules for sure |
| [18:00:32] | Beirdo: | boo to flu shots. |
| [18:00:33] | larrikin: | ..and yet most australians have never been bitten by anything.. we keep these creatures just for the tourists.. |
| [18:00:38] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [18:05:51] | jams: | hehe |
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| [19:31:08] | Beirdo: | how odd... a dude I knew growing up.. is now one of the producers at Just For Laughs in Montreal |
| [19:31:11] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [19:39:58] | mag0o: | Beirdo: is your log bot something you put together or something else? |
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| [19:58:27] | Beirdo: | I wrote it |
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| [20:12:55] | mag0o: | Is it something you'd be willing to share? |
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| [20:21:05] | Beirdo: | it's open source |
| [20:21:48] | Beirdo: | http://github.com/Beirdo/beirdobot |
| [20:23:30] | Beirdo: | The Washington Post Republican Preseidential Candidates Debate |
| [20:23:32] | Beirdo: | hahha |
| [20:23:46] | Beirdo: | I think I won't be watching that, they can't even spell it right |
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| [20:28:19] | Moscherkobold: | hello everyone |
| [20:29:03] | Moscherkobold: | unfortunately I am not able to get the sundtek stick running with mythtv |
| [20:29:23] | Moscherkobold: | the stick has 2 tuners inside analog and dvb-c |
| [20:30:02] | Moscherkobold: | and I am not sure how to configure the backend (capture card and so on...) |
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| [21:09:42] | wagnerrp: | Moscherkobold: are you able to get them working with linux? |
| [21:09:54] | wagnerrp: | mythtv just supports the V4L and DVB APIs in linux |
| [21:10:04] | wagnerrp: | and whatever cards have drivers that expose themselves through those APIs |
| [21:10:11] | wagnerrp: | we dont write the drivers ourselves |
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| [21:11:10] | Moscherkobold: | wagnerrp: according to sundtek support the device is working with linux |
| [21:12:24] | iamlindoro: | What wagnerrp is saying is that you need to get it working in linux first |
| [21:12:38] | iamlindoro: | it being possible and it being working on your system are two different things |
| [21:12:59] | iamlindoro: | You need to have configured it and tested it outside of mythtv before we can begin to assist you |
| [21:13:48] | Moscherkobold: | it is working with other software on my pc |
| [21:13:56] | iamlindoro: | other software in linux? |
| [21:14:15] | Moscherkobold: | the device is working with tvtime or vlc |
| [21:14:22] | Moscherkobold: | but not within mythtv |
| [21:14:33] | iamlindoro: | tvtime is for analog only, have you tested the digital side? |
| [21:14:47] | Moscherkobold: | the digital is running, also in mythtv |
| [21:14:55] | Moscherkobold: | but analog is not working in mythtv |
| [21:15:01] | iamlindoro: | In short, you will configure the analog side as a v4l card in mythtv-setup, and you will configure the digital side as a DVB card-- beyond that, you will need to ask specific questions |
| [21:15:08] | larrikin: | can you get a list of transponders/muxes and channels with the 'tzap' utility ? |
| [21:15:15] | Moscherkobold: | i want to use digital and analog with mythv |
| [21:15:27] | iamlindoro: | So configure both digital and analog capture cards |
| [21:15:36] | Moscherkobold: | already done |
| [21:15:39] | iamlindoro: | To MythTV, they are separate devices |
| [21:15:57] | iamlindoro: | Then you need to create two video sources, one for analog, one for digital |
| [21:16:08] | iamlindoro: | then you need to connect your digital video source to the DVB node, and the analog video source to the analog input |
| [21:16:24] | iamlindoro: | then you need to scan on the digital side, and fetch channels from your listings source on the analog side, or add the analog channels manually |
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| [21:16:56] | iamlindoro: | Beyond that, we need much more information than "it doesn't work" |
| [21:16:57] | Moscherkobold: | ok I agree, I have already done the mentioned steps |
| [21:17:07] | Moscherkobold: | created 2 capture devices |
| [21:17:10] | iamlindoro: | We need error messages, logs, etc. |
| [21:17:21] | Moscherkobold: | and 2 video sourches |
| [21:17:33] | Moscherkobold: | can you tell me were to find the logs etc? |
| [21:17:47] | iamlindoro: | Logs are found in the console where you launched mythtv-setup |
| [21:18:04] | iamlindoro: | same for the frontend |
| [21:18:15] | iamlindoro: | backend logs are wherever your init script puts them, commonly in /var/log/mythtv/ |
| [21:19:30] | Moscherkobold: | ok |
| [21:19:55] | Moscherkobold: | i will do another scan for analog channels and will let you have the log |
| [21:20:04] | iamlindoro: | No, do not scan for analog channels |
| [21:20:13] | iamlindoro: | So you haven't done the mentioned steps after all |
| [21:20:27] | iamlindoro: | You either fetch your channels from your guide listing source, or you add them manually |
| [21:21:07] | Moscherkobold: | ah ok, if i understand correctly... i can scan for digital channel but not for analog? |
| [21:21:13] | iamlindoro: | correct |
| [21:21:19] | Moscherkobold: | ohboy... |
| [21:21:22] | Moscherkobold: | thank you |
| [21:21:24] | Moscherkobold: | i will try |
| [21:24:44] | Moscherkobold: | how much time will "fetch channels from listings source" usually need? |
| [21:25:12] | Moscherkobold: | because there is no progress bar or something like this |
| [21:26:16] | kormoc: | it depends on your listings source |
| [21:26:20] | kormoc: | we have no way of knowing |
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| [21:28:10] | Moscherkobold: | so there is no visible progress during the process? |
| [21:28:29] | iamlindoro: | Do you have a listings source which lists your analog channels? |
| [21:28:44] | iamlindoro: | It should take only a few moments in almost all cases |
| [21:29:06] | iamlindoro: | But if you have not properly set up a listings source, or if that source is not for your analog channels, bad things could happen |
| [21:29:16] | Moscherkobold: | i think so... |
| [21:29:35] | Moscherkobold: | how to set it up? |
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| [21:30:53] | iamlindoro: | You should probably read the mythtv documenation |
| [21:31:01] | iamlindoro: | in particular, the parts about XMLTV |
| [21:31:38] | Moscherkobold: | i think i have set up xmltv things correctly |
| [21:31:56] | iamlindoro: | If you want us to be able to help us, you really need to provide logs |
| [21:32:10] | iamlindoro: | Otherwise we'll spend hours guessing, or just give up |
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| [21:44:29] | Moscherkobold: | 2011-09–27 23:43:36.184 GetChannelData() failed because it could not |
| [21:44:29] | Moscherkobold: | find channel number '21' in DB for source '1'. |
| [21:44:29] | Moscherkobold: | 2011-09–27 23:43:36.189 DVBChan(4:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) Error: SetChannelByString(21): Unable to find channel in database. |
| [21:44:29] | Moscherkobold: | 2011-09–27 23:43:36.229 GetChannelData() failed because it could not |
| [21:44:29] | Moscherkobold: | find channel number '21' in DB for source '1'. |
| [21:44:29] | Moscherkobold: | 2011-09–27 23:43:36.233 DVBChan(5:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) Error: SetChannelByString(21): Unable to find channel in database. |
| [21:44:32] | Moscherkobold: | 2011-09–27 23:43:36.244 Channel(/dev/video0)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "Kein passendes Gerät bzw. keine passende Adresse gefunden" |
| [21:46:05] | Beirdo: | please use pastebin.com for anything over one or 2 lines of pasting |
| [21:46:12] | Moscherkobold: | iamlindoro: this is what was added in the logfile after "fetch channels from listings source" |
| [21:46:48] | Moscherkobold: | okok |
| [21:48:11] | Moscherkobold: | however, is this the information you need |
| [21:50:26] | Moscherkobold: | Beirdo: do you know if there is something wrong with my xmltv setup? |
| [21:50:42] | Moscherkobold: | or is there a describtion how to set it up correct? |
| [21:51:23] | Moscherkobold: | i cant find anything specific for my country inside the myth wiki or documentation |
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| [21:59:43] | Moscherkobold: | anyone still here? Beirdo iamlindoro larrikin ? |
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| [22:10:29] | Beirdo: | Sorry, I had to step away to do some work. I don't do XMLTV here, so I'm not sure what to look into without spending more time at it than I have ridht now |
| [22:10:49] | Moscherkobold: | ok thank you anyway |
| [22:16:50] | tlhiv_laptop: | any suggestions on a bitrate for encoding (x.264) a 1080p movie? |
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| [22:20:02] | taylorr: | tlhiv_laptop: many don't use bitrate but choose a quality of CRF=24 for x.264, some have said it is near lossless and compresses a lot |
| [22:20:23] | tlhiv_laptop: | taylorr: excellent thanks |
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