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| [00:27:45] | Hydr0p0nX: | any recommendations on a painless tuner card ? i was looking at the hauppauge 1600 but it seems to have some problem with the kernel module occasionally |
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| [00:40:20] | iamlindoro: | You'd need to specify what you're trying to capture |
| [00:40:20] | stuartm: | one without sharp edges helps |
| [00:40:50] | iamlindoro: | If you're only interested in Digital tuning, then the HDHomeRun is well liked and has the added bonus of not having drivers to deal with |
| [00:41:21] | iamlindoro: | If Analog, then the HD-PVR if you want HD content from the box, or an old second hand PVR-150 or PVR-500 from eBay if you want SD |
| [00:43:28] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'm just looking for the analog channels right now |
| [00:43:52] | iamlindoro: | You need to specify what you're trying to capture from |
| [00:44:04] | iamlindoro: | BTW, the HVR-1600 works just fine for lots and lots of people |
| [00:44:54] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'm getting a blackmagic intensity pro for hd capture |
| [00:45:23] | iamlindoro: | Not for linux or myth you aren't |
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| [00:57:53] | wagnerrp: | gah.... |
| [01:00:48] | iamlindoro: | We did turn on captcha for the wiki a long time ago, right? |
| [01:00:56] | iamlindoro: | Like, they're real jerks, not automated jerks, right? |
| [01:01:04] | wagnerrp: | i believe so |
| [01:01:45] | wagnerrp: | yeah, uses recaptcha |
| [01:02:07] | wagnerrp: | and an email address for confirmation |
| [01:02:26] | wagnerrp: | do we maybe want to start requiring administrator confirmation? |
| [01:03:26] | iamlindoro: | or at least an email confirmation |
| [01:03:35] | iamlindoro: | if such a thing exists for mediawiki |
| [01:03:41] | wagnerrp: | it requires an email address |
| [01:03:48] | wagnerrp: | i assume that means it requires an email confirmation |
| [01:03:49] | iamlindoro: | right, but are we sending an activation link? |
| [01:03:54] | wagnerrp: | i imagine so |
| [01:03:58] | iamlindoro: | I doubt it-- not the way it works on our stock mediawiki at work |
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| [01:06:27] | wagnerrp: | i could install this... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Email . . . confirmation |
| [01:07:08] | wagnerrp: | scratch that |
| [01:07:24] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt seem to actually prevent anything prior to supplying the token |
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| [01:25:04] | skd5aner: | time to get mythtv.xxx – http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/ . . . can-be-yours |
| [01:25:59] | skd5aner: | 'As ICM's homepage declares: ".XXX isn't just coming it's here!"' |
| [01:26:02] | ** skd5aner snickers ** | |
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| [01:26:47] | wagnerrp: | no, well just wait until someone makes a profitable site, and then sue them |
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| [02:02:06] | lapion: | register : thespotismarkedbya.XXX |
| [02:03:01] | wagnerrp: | why would you mark treasure with porn? |
| [02:03:36] | mkrufky: | silly, silly... treasure doesnt get marked with porn — porn gets marked with treasure. |
| [02:03:38] | lapion: | a tripple X... why does everybody automatically assume I was talking about sex or porn ? |
| [02:03:57] | wagnerrp: | well you could be talking about bad action movies |
| [02:04:09] | wagnerrp: | or moonshine |
| [02:04:38] | wagnerrp: | sphery: we still had mention of the dbox in there? |
| [02:06:04] | lapion: | anyhow, it's nice to know one of the dutch senators is thinking about forcing cable to go ftc for the basic dvb package |
| [02:07:51] | wagnerrp: | sphery: note that any changes you make to that page, came from this page... http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 |
| [02:08:15] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if robert has any mechanism planned to regenerate that page off the wiki content |
| [02:08:22] | sphery: | yeah, I know |
| [02:08:31] | sphery: | the sgml was the main source |
| [02:08:34] | sphery: | he now has it on the wiki |
| [02:08:40] | sphery: | and I'm sending an e-mail asking what we're doing |
| [02:08:55] | sphery: | (actually asking if we can do what he wants to do) |
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| [02:10:01] | sphery: | and as for the dbox, I had taken it out in Jan 2010, and it got reverted--I think he started working from an old copy of the document and so we lost all 4 of my Jan 2010 updates |
| [02:10:19] | sphery: | so I got to spend 3 hours redoing them tonight |
| [02:11:22] | sphery: | basically, looks like he took the 0.22-fixes document and used it to create the 0.23 document in May 10, 2010 and though he got my May and Apr changes in there manually, he didn't notice the 4 Jan changes |
| [02:11:38] | sphery: | rather than taking the trunk document and using it |
| [02:14:09] | wagnerrp: | something wrong with your system clock? |
| [02:15:21] | wagnerrp: | im seriously confused here |
| [02:15:51] | sphery: | ? |
| [02:16:02] | wagnerrp: | i mentioned the homepage howtos 10 minutes ago |
| [02:16:15] | wagnerrp: | you mentioned i mentioned the homepage howtos in a commit 50 minutes ago |
| [02:16:16] | sphery: | where? on -developers? |
| [02:17:10] | sphery: | that was a cherry pick of the nearly 2 year old commit I had made |
| [02:17:25] | sphery: | I left in the original comment and just said I was restoring it |
| [02:17:47] | wagnerrp: | OH... i told you two years ago about them |
| [02:17:59] | sphery: | yes |
| [02:18:05] | wagnerrp: | ok |
| [02:18:08] | sphery: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/718f7 . . . v-HOWTO.sgml |
| [02:18:10] | wagnerrp: | i was freaking out there for a second |
| [02:18:17] | wagnerrp: | what the... how the... |
| [02:22:46] | sphery: | hehe, my commit message this morning was very stealth, but I knew users would notice the change quickly |
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| [03:44:47] | wagnerrp: | looks like the TV season starts back up in two weeks |
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| [03:46:00] | tank-man: | dr who already started :) |
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| [06:38:37] | dekarl: | sphery: wrt d9fb218, the new indices are not used for the time search according to EXPLAIN and the time from log_slow_queries |
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| [10:36:42] | k-man: | iamlindoro, you awake? |
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| [10:54:04] | Lunar_Lamp: | I've checked out the hardware list on the mythtv page, and I'm looking for a pci card to view hd satellite stuff in the uk (S2 card). Before I spend any cash, are there any that are particularly loved/hated? |
| [11:05:37] | deegan: | Lunar_Lamp: I'm using a HAUPPAUGE WINTV NOVA HD S2 PCI for DVB-S. |
| [11:06:15] | deegan: | Lunar_Lamp: as for "love/hate" it was pretty straight forward to install and configure it. |
| [11:13:13] | stuartm: | Lunar_Lamp: The Nova HD S2 is a safe bet, but there are cheaper cards available, e.g. I have a "TeVii S464" which works great but support is only in the most recent kernels, if you don't mind getting your hands a little dirty then it's extremely trivial to build/install the driver from source |
| [11:16:41] | deegan: | I've been interested in getting a TBS 6980 dual tuner card. |
| [11:16:52] | deegan: | http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/6980.html |
| [11:28:58] | Lunar_Lamp: | Cheers – the Nova HD s" was the one I was considering myself – the only real negative was just the one tuner. |
| [11:29:30] | deegan: | Maybe check the TBS then, i havent used it myself but it looks promising. |
| [11:29:39] | Lunar_Lamp: | But I have a dual tuner dvb card too, so that should be enough I guess – only really want the sat card so I can record HD channels. |
| [11:29:48] | deegan: | and look it even has mythtv and linux logos on the product sheet. :) |
| [11:31:03] | Lunar_Lamp: | Can only see one place in the UK that has it for sale, and that's a random shop I'v enot heard of before :-/ |
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| [11:32:55] | Lunar_Lamp: | But still looks a promising suggestion. |
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| [12:30:42] | stuartm: | deegan: heh, but not the official logo, a fan created one |
| [12:33:10] | stuartm: | Lunar_Lamp: a second DVB-S2 tuner can be useful on the odd occassion that two HD channels are showing something worth recording – it doesn't happen too often and BBC HD repeats enough stuff that you can always record at a later time, but it might become more prevailent if Freesat ever manages to secure more HD channels |
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| [12:33:44] | stuartm: | thankfully BBC One HD and BBC HD are on the same frequency, so you can record from both at the same time with a signal tuner |
| [12:34:04] | Lunar_Lamp: | :-o |
| [12:34:08] | Lunar_Lamp: | I did not know that! |
| [12:34:15] | Lunar_Lamp: | That is useful :-) |
| [12:35:42] | stuartm: | besides those two you've got ITV One HD (It's ITV, nothing worth watching there) and Channel 4 HD |
| [12:36:32] | stuartm: | well ... there's NHK HD, but I only record one programme a week there |
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| [12:38:31] | Lunar_Lamp: | ITV One HD has the rugby world cup on it though! ;-) |
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| [12:50:28] | stuartm: | right, I guess if you like watching Sports it's not a complete entertainment void ;) |
| [12:54:53] | k-man: | Lunar_Lamp, do they call it One HD the channel there? we have a One HD in Australia too |
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| [12:56:59] | stuartm: | k-man: no, you've got BBC One HD and ITV1 HD (of the FTA channels), there is also Sky One HD, but no channel just called One HD |
| [12:59:30] | stuartm: | historically because of it's position on most analogue TVs ITV 1 is just as often called Channel 3 ... but confusingly there is also ITV 2, ITV 3 and ITV 4 |
| [13:02:10] | k-man: | stuartm, ah thanks for the explanation |
| [13:02:25] | k-man: | I left the uk not long after the launch of Channel 4 |
| [13:02:46] | k-man: | hehe, that was a few years ago |
| [13:02:59] | stuartm: | just a few ;) |
| [13:04:19] | k-man: | over here was have the ABC, which used to be just 1 channel, but now they had to rebrand the ABC channel to ABC1 because they also added ABC2 and ABC3 |
| [13:06:19] | stuartm: | right, that's pretty much what happened with ITV |
| [13:06:51] | stuartm: | although ITV doesn't have enough content these days to justify one channel, let alone four |
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| [13:12:43] | k-man: | then we also hade "Seven" "Nine" and "Ten" |
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| [13:13:30] | k-man: | but when they added new channels, they went with names that don't really have any relation to the parent company, like Go and One HD |
| [13:13:36] | k-man: | I never watch any of them |
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| [15:59:26] | stuartm: | heh, comment on a Register preview of Ubuntu Ocelot has neatly summed up all that's wrong with Unity – paraphrasing here "Ubuntu have turned my £700 laptop into a £100 mobile phone" |
| [15:59:51] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: --refresh-all doesnt --refresh-today? |
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| [16:00:50] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: no, but that decision was made long before my time for the benefit of DataDirect users, it doesn't really apply to xmltv so much |
| [16:01:59] | sphery: | wagnerrp: it doesn't refresh today because refreshing today is dangerous--as it clears out all data for the day, so can cause problems with current recordings |
| [16:02:30] | wagnerrp: | but --dd-grab-all doesnt suffer the same issue? |
| [16:02:41] | sphery: | this is also why davide was talking about modifying the way we insert data from --dd-grab-all so that we can prevent updating today |
| [16:04:32] | sphery: | also, when xmltv users refresh today, they generally don't get any information from before now, so that means that their 10-day history of listings will have holes in it |
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| [16:07:04] | stuartm: | sphery: the DD code isn't capable of doing updates, it has to clear out the program table first? |
| [16:07:43] | wagnerrp: | grab-all, yes |
| [16:07:47] | wagnerrp: | it wipes everything clean |
| [16:07:52] | sphery: | all of our mythfilldatabase code clears out the day before inserting |
| [16:07:56] | sphery: | only eit does updates |
| [16:08:03] | sphery: | at least, ttbomk |
| [16:08:11] | stuartm: | I'm less familiar with the insertion side of mfdb, it's all in libmythtv for a start, but it will do updates for xmltv without wiping first |
| [16:08:29] | wagnerrp: | does it at least load stuff into a temporary table before flushing, so it can just sideload directly? |
| [16:08:47] | stuartm: | at least that's how I always thought it worked |
| [16:09:05] | stuartm: | "Updated programs: 1384 Unchanged programs: 4155" << Would be very misleading if not |
| [16:09:06] | sphery: | well, it definitely clears and then inserts for dd--the dd code creates temp tables with dd data, then moves that to our-format real tables |
| [16:09:43] | stuartm: | hmm |
| [16:10:23] | sphery: | and there's some issue with keys and overlap if we use only part of the data or something |
| [16:10:44] | sphery: | I don't know details, but danielk alluded to it in some conversations about why we can't just ignore today's data for dd-grab-all |
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| [16:17:20] | sphery: | so I guess if xmltv is just updating the data, xmltv users wouldn't get holes, except for the random holes caused by underlaps |
| [16:17:22] | NickHu: | Hey guys, is there anyway I can view channels grouped by mux? |
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| [16:54:00] | FabriceMG: | :) hehe, on my laptop, <i don't updated today, the frontend start and crash in infinite loop |
| [16:55:23] | FabriceMG: | with mythfrontend -service (mythbuntu) |
| [16:55:54] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend doesnt support a -service argument |
| [16:56:03] | FabriceMG: | yep |
| [16:56:07] | tgm4883: | why is it crashing? |
| [16:56:20] | FabriceMG: | it's script of mythbuntu |
| [16:56:34] | FabriceMG: | tgm4883, big question ! |
| [16:56:46] | wagnerrp: | logs? version? |
| [16:57:26] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, logs? Why would we want logs to diagnose an issue? |
| [16:57:28] | FabriceMG: | mythfrontend version: master [v0.25pre-3284-g4a515ba] |
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| [16:57:58] | tgm4883: | FabriceMG, are you subscribed to the mythtv dev mailing list? |
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| [16:58:27] | ** wagnerrp needs more desktop space ** | |
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| [16:59:12] | FabriceMG: | tgm4883, no, i don't want, my english is poor and some dev don't like my opignon ! |
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| [17:03:25] | FabriceMG: | wagnerrp, tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/FjcYeQ0b |
| [17:04:48] | wagnerrp: | there has been a database schema update |
| [17:05:08] | wagnerrp: | you must allow the master backend or mythtv-setup to perform the update before the frontend will function |
| [17:06:14] | FabriceMG: | :) wagnerrp, |
| [17:06:59] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: is there any condition in which your service script does not automatically restart the frontend when it closes? |
| [17:07:11] | wagnerrp: | some error code we can pass to ensure it does not get re-opened? |
| [17:07:38] | wagnerrp: | no sense pogo-ing like that in a situation where the application will outright refuse to run |
| [17:07:40] | FabriceMG: | did you update the schema between yesterday and today? |
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| [17:08:32] | wagnerrp: | yes... https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/d9fb2 . . . /dbcheck.cpp |
| [17:08:58] | wagnerrp: | the frontend is only allowed to manage plugin schemas |
| [17:09:05] | wagnerrp: | it is not allowed to touch the primary schema |
| [17:09:18] | wagnerrp: | restart your backend to resolve the issue |
| [17:09:20] | FabriceMG: | ok , i update |
| [17:09:29] | wagnerrp: | you already did update |
| [17:09:41] | wagnerrp: | as seen by the fact that your frontend is refusing to start since the schema is too old |
| [17:09:57] | FabriceMG: | not today on my laptop, but master and slave , yes |
| [17:11:11] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, yea I'll look into what it is |
| [17:11:20] | wagnerrp: | sphery: looks like the first 4K "consumer" products are starting to come onto the market |
| [17:11:48] | wagnerrp: | Sony 4K projector, for under $25K! (for extremely small values of "under") |
| [17:14:12] | FabriceMG: | wagnerrp, it's ok now, but 1 popup would be likeable |
| [17:14:37] | wagnerrp: | mythtv closes out and warns you in the logs |
| [17:16:13] | wagnerrp: | having the script not repeatedly restart under such conditions would be likeable |
| [17:16:30] | wagnerrp: | which means specifying certain error codes for which that script will not automatically restart |
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| [17:25:44] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, 0, 1, and 254 |
| [17:25:53] | tgm4883: | we don't restart on those exit codes |
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| [17:32:40] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: looks like that one is code 133... https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . in.cpp#L1590 |
| [17:34:21] | wagnerrp: | you may also want to fault out on 138, 139, and 142... https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . /exitcodes.h |
| [17:34:41] | wagnerrp: | although im not sure where 142 would be called |
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| [17:55:26] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: mfdb not refreshing today by default combined with the former default run time of 2–5am results in not getting last day (not minute) updates from the guide source... :( |
| [17:55:27] | dekarl: | I didn't yet find the time to dig into the mfdb update and scheduler code to figure out the details, but updating the guide for "now" while recordings take place can kill these recordings. |
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| [17:56:33] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: yeah, i saw the note |
| [17:56:49] | wagnerrp: | thanks, im just somewhat guessing at what options block other options |
| [17:57:04] | dekarl: | no worries, I fell for the same thought |
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| [18:13:53] | FabriceMG: | tgm4883, did you works for Mythbuntu packager? |
| [18:14:59] | wagnerrp: | when in doubt, /whois |
| [18:16:39] | FabriceMG: | I think the answer is yes |
| [18:17:32] | dekarl: | you could also look here https://launchpad.net/~tgm4883 |
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| [18:20:51] | sphery: | wagnerrp: 4K sets as in 3840x2160? |
| [18:21:09] | sphery: | or are you talking the ultra hd @ 7680x4320? |
| [18:21:24] | wagnerrp: | 4096x2160 |
| [18:21:27] | sphery: | I'm actually a huge fan of the idea of 3840x2160 sets (with 1920x1080 broadcasts/sources) |
| [18:21:33] | sphery: | or thereabouts :) |
| [18:22:57] | sphery: | wonder why they chose that resolution |
| [18:23:03] | wagnerrp: | thats 4K |
| [18:23:08] | sphery: | it's closer to 16:8.5 |
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| [18:23:52] | sphery: | I'd have figured they'd have gone toward wider instead of taller--at least for tvs |
| [18:24:03] | wagnerrp: | that is wider |
| [18:24:07] | wagnerrp: | 1.89:1 |
| [18:24:22] | wagnerrp: | a lot of film is 1.85:1 |
| [18:24:32] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to tv, which is 1.78:1 |
| [18:24:39] | sphery: | ah, yeah, I mis-calculated |
| [18:24:45] | dekarl: | 4k is a digital cinema resolution, so it has all kinds of funny aspect ratios... see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution |
| [18:26:13] | dekarl: | I like the thought of Quad HD. It backwards compatible without funny scaling |
| [18:26:51] | ** dekarl notices that 2.35:1 is missing from that article... meh ** | |
| [18:27:01] | wagnerrp: | i like the thought of using real names |
| [18:27:11] | wagnerrp: | 'HD' is horrendously ambiguous |
| [18:27:17] | sphery: | anyway, I'm still a believer that you need about 4x the physical pixels as you have in your source to get best-quality display... So, as long as they spend the money on improving the digital processing and not on trying to get us all to switch to a quad-HD source format |
| [18:27:25] | dekarl: | but.. so are all TLAs! :) |
| [18:27:35] | sphery: | in other words, there's more information in there than pixels |
| [18:27:45] | dekarl: | (three letter abbreviations, I hate them) |
| [18:28:18] | wagnerrp: | ill have you know ive not used a TLA graphics resolution in over a decade |
| [18:28:20] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [18:29:00] | ** dekarl appreciates that ** | |
| [18:29:15] | sphery: | FabriceMG: to get a popup while updating the schema requires completely rewriting the schema upgrade wizard... I'm working on it, but it's not an easy job |
| [18:29:19] | wagnerrp: | i use FLA resolutions |
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| [18:29:50] | wagnerrp: | four/five |
| [18:30:19] | sphery: | FabriceMG: basically, the problem is that we now use mythui, and the wizard needs to be completely rewritten for mythui--and because it was designed using a simplistic blocking approach where the UI and the functionality is tightly coupled, it requires a complete redesign |
| [18:30:44] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I use FL acronyms... I figured you used OH acronyms. |
| [18:31:07] | ** wagnerrp doesnt live in any state ** | |
| [18:31:12] | dekarl: | lol, nice references... "... we announce support for up to 4k at Youtube" more than a year ago... |
| [18:31:39] | FabriceMG: | sphery, no problem, just the mythfrontend --service on mythbuntu restart in infinite loop |
| [18:32:02] | wagnerrp: | right, because that fault exists with a code mythbuntu doesnt know is fatal |
| [18:32:04] | sphery: | ooh, have you now completed your ascension, shed your body, and are now living as energy in the Internet? |
| [18:32:09] | sphery: | a cloud being? |
| [18:32:22] | ** wagnerrp lives in a commonwealth ** | |
| [18:32:44] | sphery: | FabriceMG: ah, ok--I thought maybe the update to add an index on the description took forever for you--and was worried that would be the case for a lot of people |
| [18:33:06] | dekarl: | Now that I got my dad to go 1080p with his 30 year old content they come up with more then that for home use... :( |
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| [18:38:46] | FabriceMG: | sphery, wagnerrp and all, even if I do not agree to all the guidelines mythtv, I admire all your work and your energy in the project |
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| [18:59:03] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I'll look at adding those. The idea is that we don't want to get stuck in a loop, meaning that we only want to account for exits that if you restarted the frontend it would immediately exit again |
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| [19:07:18] | FabriceMG: | tgm4883, after the upgrade of mythbuntu 10.04 ( 0.24 -> 0.25) , I had some problems |
| [19:08:05] | tgm4883: | what problems? |
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| [19:09:11] | FabriceMG: | first , bad config file mythweb.conf for apache |
| [19:09:38] | FabriceMG: | <Directory "/var/www/mythweb" > |
| [19:09:44] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall having to make any changes to my mythweb.conf between 0.24 and 0.25 |
| [19:12:28] | tgm4883: | FabriceMG, whats wrong with that? |
| [19:12:31] | FabriceMG: | second , bad owner for the mythweb directory , owner root after upgrade |
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| [19:14:29] | FabriceMG: | tgm4883, no, I do not remember what was written |
| [19:14:56] | FabriceMG: | <Directory "/var/www/mythweb" > , it 's good version |
| [19:15:49] | tgm4883: | FabriceMG, IIRC, that file shouldn't be touched during an upgrade |
| [19:16:00] | FabriceMG: | for the second , I have type : chown -R www-data:www-data ........ |
| [19:16:26] | tgm4883: | Can you give steps to reproduce it? |
| [19:18:31] | FabriceMG: | I have make only one upgrade on my network! |
| [19:20:18] | dekarl: | sphery: is there anything special in your rsyslog config to get my mythbackend.log back into it's old place after updating lately? (mythbuntu 0.25/master ppa packages) |
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| [19:21:46] | sphery: | dekarl_afk: $template mythtvFile,"/var/log/mythtv/%programname%.log" is what provides the name... it just uses the program name for everything |
| [19:22:25] | tgm4883: | sphery, do you run 0.25/trunk? |
| [19:22:31] | sphery: | you can modify it--for example, the commented one below that uses, for example, mythbackend.<pid>.log |
| [19:22:43] | sphery: | tgm4883: no, I run 0.24-fixes on my production system |
| [19:22:48] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [19:22:51] | sphery: | I only have 0.25 on my dev box |
| [19:23:04] | sphery: | why, is that config not working for people? |
| [19:23:14] | tgm4883: | hmm, you don't sound like a real dev then |
| [19:23:21] | tgm4883: | everyone knows, dev == production |
| [19:23:31] | sphery: | hehe, I'm a dev who learned his lesson when he used to run trunk on production |
| [19:23:35] | FabriceMG: | third, after the upgrade , all backend have in /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf -> LANG=$LANG /usr/bin/mythbackend --syslog local7 --user mythtv |
| [19:25:41] | FabriceMG: | replaced by : LANG=$LANG /usr/bin/mythbackend --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --user mythtv |
| [19:26:43] | sphery: | FabriceMG: you don't want to use --logfile with 0.25pre+ ... it will only log information from the main process (mythbackend), no child processes--like mythpreviewgen, mythcommflag, mythtranscode, ... |
| [19:27:05] | sphery: | that's why they switched it to use syslog--so it can log information about everything and use the same file name format |
| [19:27:53] | tgm4883: | yep |
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| [19:28:20] | sphery: | FabriceMG: did you have some problem with using syslog or did you just change it because it's not what you were used to? |
| [19:30:08] | FabriceMG: | no, I wanted it to be like the version 0.24 |
| [19:30:28] | sphery: | you mean the format of the log output itself? |
| [19:30:53] | sphery: | or, no, actually --logfile still does debug-mode logs |
| [19:31:05] | sphery: | so I guess you mean the configuration you were used to |
| [19:31:27] | tgm4883: | FabriceMG, things do change sometimes, if it's not causing any issues why "fix" it |
| [19:32:14] | tgm4883: | Better yet, if you are using development software, then maybe you should subscribe to the developer mailing lists? |
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| [19:36:51] | iamlindoro: | Not only should he, we are supposed to require it |
| [19:37:10] | iamlindoro: | as in, we used to be much better about not offering support when people didn't want to participate :) |
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| [19:38:29] | FabriceMG: | iamlindoro, +1 |
| [19:38:42] | FabriceMG: | If no production test, this is how we take a slap with the 0.24! |
| [19:38:54] | iamlindoro: | You are welcome to "production test" |
| [19:39:02] | iamlindoro: | but that means reading the development and commits lists if you want help |
| [19:39:25] | iamlindoro: | And if you don't want to, that means accepting that many people who could help won't be willing to |
| [19:39:42] | tgm4883: | +1 |
| [19:40:06] | tgm4883: | I remember someone saying that things intentionally broke in trunk in order to test things |
| [19:40:11] | tgm4883: | that was probably iamlindoro that said that |
| [19:40:30] | iamlindoro: | I have broken things before-- whether it was intentional... ;) |
| [19:41:59] | FabriceMG: | read, read, readand again read ! |
| [19:42:54] | qwebirc50972: | I have a whole bunch of QPainter messages filling up my mythfrontend.log file. I tried deleting my theme cache and restarting the frontend but I still receive the messages. This only happens on one of my two frontends. I'm on Mythbuntu 11.04 with Myth 0.24 fixes. Any ideas on how to fix this? |
| [19:44:04] | sphery: | we'd need more details--like ideally the actual logs posted to pastebin |
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| [19:45:37] | qwebirc50972: | ok....they're huge....should I just post the repeating section? |
| [19:46:08] | sphery: | we'd need at least some context |
| [19:46:19] | sphery: | you can trim out much of the repeats if you like |
| [19:46:21] | iamlindoro: | As in, from the startup of the frontend through at least a few instances |
| [19:46:35] | sphery: | that would be perfect |
| [19:46:51] | sphery: | easiest to do if you delete the log file, and restart the frontend |
| [19:47:02] | sphery: | (or truncate the log file) |
| [19:47:14] | sphery: | sudo cp /dev/null /var/log/mythfrontend.log |
| [19:47:15] | sphery: | or whatever |
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| [19:49:40] | qwebirc50972: | Hows this? http://pastebin.com/A4Kg2fj5 |
| [19:52:48] | sphery: | qwebirc50972: looks like you have a sufficiently new nvidia video card that you should be using the OpenGL Theme Painter |
| [19:53:19] | sphery: | qwebirc50972: Utilties/Setup|Setup|Appearance Settings, then somewhere in there find theme painter and change it from Qt to OpenGL, then try restarting the frontend |
| [19:54:23] | qwebirc50972: | Ah....I'll give that a try....is there still a problem with Qt though? Or is it something to do with the nvidia drivers? |
| [19:54:37] | sphery: | something isn't initializing correctly... |
| [19:54:45] | sphery: | also, looking deeper, it seems that's during video playback |
| [19:55:08] | sphery: | so, really, which Playback Profile group are you using? Utilties/Setup|Setup|TV Settings|Playback, 3rd screen |
| [19:55:21] | qwebirc50972: | ya...I'm wondering if it's happening when the OSD is on the screen |
| [19:56:04] | sphery: | You don't want to use any of the CPU+, CPU++, or CPU-- ones... You want one of the VDPAU ones if you have a VDPAU-capable nvidia card, or Slim, Normal, or High Quality if not |
| [19:56:15] | qwebirc50972: | I'm using CPU+ right now because I'm having issues with VDPAU at the moment...I'm pretty sure that a Ubuntu problem though |
| [19:56:25] | sphery: | Yeah, change that to Slim |
| [19:57:14] | sphery: | will probably work then--I think Ubuntu is doing something to disable XvMC (which is good because it's awful), but unfortunately, you have an XvMC video renderer chosen, so it won't initialize correctly |
| [19:57:21] | qwebirc50972: | Slim was giving me audio issues....the audio would skip back about I'm guessing 10 seconds or so but the video would keep playing |
| [19:57:43] | sphery: | and, FWIW, we have removed XvMC from current MythTV because it was so much a waste |
| [19:57:53] | qwebirc50972: | ah...that's in the CPU+ profile? |
| [19:57:57] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:58:20] | sphery: | You could try Normal or High Quality--but those will be more resource intensive than Slim |
| [19:58:24] | sphery: | what CPU do you have? |
| [19:58:29] | qwebirc50972: | I'll give that a try....All my content is SD at the moment but I was looking to get ready for HD |
| [19:58:47] | qwebirc50972: | The box is a Revo 3600 |
| [19:59:42] | sphery: | looks like you're using an analog capture device for capture, right? |
| [20:00:00] | sphery: | is it ivtv-based (PVR-x50 or HVR-1600 or similar) or an analog framegrabber |
| [20:00:14] | qwebirc50972: | PVR-150 |
| [20:00:28] | sphery: | good... then change the resolution on your recording profiles from 480x480 to 720x480 |
| [20:00:38] | sphery: | that will likely make playback much smoother |
| [20:01:34] | sphery: | it didn't used to (still doesn't?) like anything other than 720x480 (or, for PAL users, 720x576) |
| [20:01:38] | qwebirc50972: | I'll check that.....Since I've upgraded over the years is there a new set of defaults for the video playback profiles? |
| [20:02:01] | sphery: | we haven't ever changed any of the example playback profile groups |
| [20:02:10] | sphery: | if you've ever edited yours, you can restore the defaults... |
| [20:02:24] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles# . . . ofile_groups (that first paragraph) |
| [20:03:14] | sphery: | I highly recommend making sure the examples are all set to their defaults and then just creating your own custom profile groups if you want something different |
| [20:03:28] | sphery: | that way, Slim means Slim and CPU+ means garbage ;) |
| [20:03:46] | qwebirc50972: | Ya...that's what I thought....my recording profiles were set to 480...so I've changed that..... |
| [20:03:57] | sphery: | that said, we do remove CPU+, CPU++, and CPU-- from the database after 0.24 |
| [20:04:02] | qwebirc50972: | but I transcode would that make a difference? |
| [20:04:39] | qwebirc50972: | I'd like to be on VDPAU by the time I upgrade :) |
| [20:04:39] | sphery: | would make a difference during playback of Live TV |
| [20:05:09] | qwebirc50972: | ah....those QPainter errors are when I'm watching a recording....I don't really use LiveTv |
| [20:05:12] | sphery: | could actually make a difference in quality of transcoded recordings, too |
| [20:05:31] | sphery: | but if nothing else, your capture device will be happier |
| [20:06:16] | wagnerrp: | sphery: theres also something amusing about calling an Atom 'CPU+' |
| [20:06:18] | sphery: | and if you're transcoding, that's probably why you're having problems with vdpau |
| [20:06:31] | sphery: | if you don't transcode, vdpau can actually do the decoding |
| [20:06:45] | sphery: | when you do, we end up with NUV, which nvidia doesn't know |
| [20:07:08] | sphery: | so you'd have to set up a playback profile that did ffmpeg decode and vdpau render |
| [20:07:13] | sphery: | or, better, don't transcode :) |
| [20:07:37] | sphery: | and you'd have to make sure your ffmpeg decode/vdpau render profile is used for the transcoded materal |
| [20:08:09] | qwebirc50972: | I'm only transcoding SD....it played fine on really old hardware...even though I choose VDPAU Slim it should still play the nuv right....just not accelerated? |
| [20:09:17] | sphery: | so you could create one with >= 720 480, vdpau, vdpau ; >= 0 0, ffmpeg, vdpau |
| [20:09:33] | sphery: | I can't make promises for an Atom chip |
| [20:09:46] | sphery: | I will say that nuv shouldn't be super high resource |
| [20:10:12] | sphery: | actually, now I'm starting to wonder if the mpeg-4 we put in the nuv would be usable with vdpau |
| [20:10:18] | sphery: | I know the rtjpeg wouldn't |
| [20:10:29] | qwebirc50972: | I see....That's what I was wondering |
| [20:10:48] | sphery: | anyway, I would recommend against transcoding |
| [20:11:02] | qwebirc50972: | basically all my recording are nuv....and they were all doing weird audio skips with the vdpau profile |
| [20:11:06] | sphery: | and with the money you save on electricity, buy a $60 2TB HDD or a $110 3TB HDD |
| [20:11:24] | wagnerrp: | or a $250 4TB HDD |
| [20:11:36] | wagnerrp: | (although that doesnt make much fiscal sense) |
| [20:11:40] | sphery: | yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the mpeg-4 we do isn't "perfect" according to the baseline profiles that vdpau expects |
| [20:11:52] | sphery: | I just assumed it wouldn't work, but I have to admit I've never actually tried |
| [20:11:55] | qwebirc50972: | I already have a big server now.....transcoding is just left over from my old box with a 120gig hd |
| [20:12:00] | wagnerrp: | qwebirc50972: is that an ION or ION2? |
| [20:12:09] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, yeah... that's a cool drive |
| [20:12:13] | qwebirc50972: | I believe it's an ION |
| [20:12:24] | wagnerrp: | sphery: the original IONs dont do mpeg4 anyway |
| [20:12:35] | wagnerrp: | so its not expecting anything |
| [20:12:42] | sphery: | wagnerrp: did you notice that Hitachi announced one, too |
| [20:12:51] | sphery: | ahh, didn't know that |
| [20:13:04] | wagnerrp: | f--- |
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| [20:13:14] | sphery: | Yeah, I can't keep up with the vdpau support/non-support list--which is why I just buy a CPU that can handle whatever I want :) |
| [20:13:24] | qwebirc50972: | It seems to work fine now with the CPU+ profile.....just have those QPainter message |
| [20:14:17] | sphery: | well, aiui, you're not using the cpu+ profile--you're using some fallback when xvmc fails |
| [20:14:59] | sphery: | because ubuntu had to disable xvmc because using it would crash X or something |
| [20:15:14] | qwebirc50972: | ah....under CPU+....the video renderer is set to xv-blit for the first profile...is that ok? |
| [20:15:19] | sphery: | likely because none of the graphics card vendors care to support it |
| [20:15:31] | sphery: | Xv is the 20 year old way of doing video |
| [20:15:49] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you ever done any wiki administration? |
| [20:15:50] | sphery: | Xv is acceptable |
| [20:16:07] | sphery: | but OpenGL and VDPAU look much better |
| [20:16:24] | qwebirc50972: | that's the first one.....so I'm not using xvmc right? |
| [20:16:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: no, don't know much about wikis |
| [20:16:42] | sphery: | wagnerrp: do you have any thoughts on the wiki official howto docs? |
| [20:17:05] | wagnerrp: | no, do you have any thought on spam management? |
| [20:17:53] | sphery: | iamlindoro and I were talking about how much of it is sorely out of date compared to wiki pages (like the debugging section, and probably a lot more), so were thinking we'd need to start chopping it up, integrating the useful stuff into the unofficial howto (and updating the unofficial howto at the same time), and ripping out/replacing the outdated parts of the official howto |
| [20:18:21] | sphery: | but the thing that scares me is some random user going in and "rewriting" section 12 with their understanding of how scheduling works and totally breaking it |
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| [20:19:12] | sphery: | as far as the spam, no... is the guy for whom you shut off new account creation back? |
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| [20:19:27] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [20:20:09] | sphery: | so we have a captcha-based new account creation page? |
| [20:20:20] | sphery: | or e-mail based? |
| [20:20:30] | wagnerrp: | recaptcha, yes |
| [20:20:31] | qwebirc50972: | Thanks for the help sphery.....You've given me enough things to try before I ask more questions :) |
| [20:20:38] | sphery: | qwebirc50972: good luck |
| [20:21:18] | sphery: | hehe, and so I guess that means that someone thinks our wiki is worth paying some re-captcha solvers to solve... |
| [20:22:53] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if theres a way we can simply block the creation of external links by unconfirmed users |
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| [20:24:07] | sphery: | so how's the guy spamming? editing existing pages and putting in external links? |
| [20:24:27] | wagnerrp: | nope, new page, one image, one link |
| [20:24:40] | sphery: | and we allow unconfirmed users to edit? |
| [20:25:00] | sphery: | where "unconfirmed" means? |
| [20:25:14] | wagnerrp: | unconfirmed by an admin |
| [20:25:22] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [20:25:25] | sphery: | makes sense |
| [20:25:28] | wagnerrp: | im saying new wer creates an account, and can edit pages |
| [20:26:09] | wagnerrp: | but we dont let them upload files, or create external links, until theyve 'proven themselves' |
| [20:26:19] | sphery: | have a "For approval to add links to external pages, please send a message requesting permission to #mythtv-users or mythtv-users." or some such? |
| [20:26:53] | wagnerrp: | something like that |
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| [20:28:43] | wagnerrp: | theres http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NotEvil , but thats kind of screwy |
| [20:29:21] | sphery: | that's not what you wanted? |
| [20:29:29] | sphery: | or you dislike the code? |
| [20:29:40] | wagnerrp: | i dislike how its implemented |
| [20:29:55] | wagnerrp: | thats exactly what i want, but i want it managed through the user interface, rather than through an external file |
| [20:30:04] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [20:30:06] | wagnerrp: | s/user interface/user permissions/ |
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| [20:36:44] | sphery: | I don't see any relevant permissions in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights |
| [20:36:47] | sphery: | :( |
| [20:36:50] | wagnerrp: | hehe... seems we put mac-how.net on the spam list |
| [20:36:53] | wagnerrp: | i remember that guy |
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| [20:39:21] | wagnerrp: | basically, any page that had anything to do with apple, or osx |
| [20:39:31] | wagnerrp: | he would paste links to his completely non-mythtv-related howtos |
| [20:39:40] | sphery: | hehe |
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| [20:59:43] | wagnerrp: | sphery: if we upgrade to 1.6.0, and have email properly set up |
| [20:59:48] | wagnerrp: | theres an option to do email confirmation |
| [21:00:18] | wagnerrp: | scratch that, were on 1.15.0, not 1.5.0 |
| [21:00:33] | stuartm: | I was just about to say ... |
| [21:02:04] | wagnerrp: | which... is set to true |
| [21:02:12] | wagnerrp: | so i suppose this guy is supplying email addresses |
| [21:06:35] | wagnerrp: | looks like theyre using single-use email addresses |
| [21:06:47] | wagnerrp: | we should be able to block those domains |
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| [21:24:36] | wagnerrp: | seems theyre all coming from some compromised server in new york |
| [21:24:42] | wagnerrp: | ubiquityservers.com |
| [21:24:54] | wagnerrp: | all different addresses, same host |
| [21:29:20] | sphery: | whois lists a guy in Phoenix AZ for that domain |
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| [21:32:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the geolocation stuff seems goobered |
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| [21:40:22] | wagnerrp: | well all of the current spam would be blocked by blocking anonymous email services |
| [21:40:30] | wagnerrp: | if i can figure out how to blacklist those |
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| [22:27:30] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: surfing the ml archives, I find it really interesting what you said here – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/490765#490765 |
| [22:28:19] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: why do you think CBS and Fox are being marked that way? Accidental? |
| [22:28:58] | wagnerrp: | i thought the broadcast flag got shot down years ago |
| [22:29:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: seems im writing my own extension to block those email addresses |
| [22:30:00] | skd5aner: | yea, that's why I was confused... or is this something that evolved out of that? Also, do you think the provider is flagging it as such, or the network? |
| [22:30:43] | sphery: | think it was shot down for ota broadcast |
| [22:30:52] | sphery: | but cable systems can put any flags on their content they want |
| [22:31:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: hehe, that's probably the best approach--more work for you, but ... |
| [22:31:56] | skd5aner: | I thought they are required to ensure that local broadcast networks are always delivered free and clear |
| [22:32:25] | skd5aner: | be back later |
| [22:32:58] | sphery: | well, if it's just a flag on the stream, it is unencrypted and available to people who use their own tuner |
| [22:33:46] | sphery: | sounds like he's just saying that the cablecard stuff has to use protected as a fallback when it's not given the information it should be given |
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| [22:35:22] | sphery: | and I'd guess since they're just starting to roll things out for cablecard tuners, they still have to make sure everything is marked properly |
| [22:35:31] | sphery: | so, yeah, I'm guessing it's accidental |
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| [22:43:17] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: I was sure there was a facility to block certain domains already? I have some memory of blocking google/yahoo/hotmail addresses on a wiki I managed for about 6 months ... |
| [22:45:04] | wagnerrp: | there is a hook |
| [22:45:17] | wagnerrp: | there are some extensions that do something similar, blocking on external lists |
| [22:45:34] | wagnerrp: | i cant find anything to explicitly do what we need |
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| [22:49:59] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: It doesn't appear to be accidental, since it's been reported for many affiliates of Fox and CBS nationwide |
| [22:50:11] | iamlindoro: | ClearQAM tuners don't have to obey it-- but CableCard devices do |
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| [22:50:33] | Twiggy2cents: | noob question, but what is the difference between atsc and dvb-t? |
| [22:50:53] | iamlindoro: | One is used in North America, the other more or less everywhere else |
| [22:51:10] | Twiggy2cents: | Oh |
| [22:51:13] | Twiggy2cents: | Okay |
| [22:51:50] | iamlindoro: | Both are terrestrial broadcast mediums, both capturable with an antenna, but different standards requiring different hardware |
| [22:56:15] | stuartm: | different in more respects than their similarities – both are based off mpeg-ts but different modulations, different structures, different performance/capabilities and limitations |
| [22:57:26] | Twiggy2cents: | So you are saying that I can use a dvb-t for atsc? |
| [22:57:29] | Twiggy2cents: | jk |
| [22:57:50] | Twiggy2cents: | You answered my question with the location in which the cards were used |
| [22:59:53] | Twiggy2cents: | I just notice the mythwikiscripts that is a neat program |
| [23:10:50] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but it takes too long to parse all those pages |
| [23:14:27] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: So I guess user friendliness doesn't extend to question answers, eh? ;) |
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| [23:17:13] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: I'm sorry, you've completely lost me |
| [23:17:55] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: back... so basically it looks like Fox and CBS are actually setting this "flag" prior to distribution to providers? |
| [23:17:57] | iamlindoro: | Heh, was just poking fun at your hair splitting |
| [23:18:08] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: unknown (to me anyway) |
| [23:18:42] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: I think I read that it was the affiliates setting it, bu that might be at the direction of national, I just don't know |
| [23:19:00] | skd5aner: | I was just really surprised when you posted those results – I guess I wouldn't have seen that coming on the broadcast networks |
| [23:19:43] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: Yeah, I'm keeping a QAM tuner around and defined as my first tuner with a limited lineup so that the broadcasts are handled there and then calls back to the Prime for the rest |
| [23:20:08] | skd5aner: | makes sense... and hey, doesn't hurt anything to have more tuners :) |
| [23:20:42] | skd5aner: | does fox and cbs happen to broadcast on the same multiplex for you? if so, that'd be really convienent :) |
| [23:21:03] | iamlindoro: | I don't think so, but don't know |
| [23:21:21] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: I didn't realise I was splitting hairs, from my perspective I was just adding to your response – maybe it was redundant ... |
| [23:21:40] | skd5aner: | well, then a single QAM tuner with multirec would be really appealing... I could see where 2 physical tuners might otherwise be needed if you expected to simultaneously record Fox and CBS |
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| [23:31:59] | Korny1: | Hello I'm kinda myth noob and learning my way through linux so forgive me if I ask any moronic questions, but here goes, I've had Mythtv running stable for about 2 weeks after a complete system reinstallation. Now I come home and it seems as though the myth back end can't connect to the mysql server |
| [23:32:16] | skd5aner: | check and see if mysql is running |
| [23:32:21] | skd5aner: | ps aux | grep mysql |
| [23:32:44] | skd5aner: | also, what distro are you running? |
| [23:33:35] | Korny1: | I'm running mythbuntu |
| [23:33:48] | Korny1: | 24.1 with fixes and using myth using the fixes repo |
| [23:34:29] | Korny1: | seems to be running |
| [23:34:57] | wagnerrp: | are you seeing 'grep mysql' as running? |
| [23:35:17] | wagnerrp: | a lot of people see that, and mistakenly think that means that application is running |
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| [23:36:14] | Korny1: | It has a pid |
| [23:36:18] | skd5aner: | Yea, you should see a couple of lines return... one would be the sql server (if it's running) and the second would be the search you just did showin up |
| [23:36:18] | Twiggy2cents: | sudo service mysql restart Just to be safe? |
| [23:36:27] | wagnerrp: | so would 'grep mysql' |
| [23:36:38] | skd5aner: | copy and past the exact lline |
| [23:37:15] | skd5aner: | Twiggy2cents: well, before he does that... I'd like to know if it was running or not |
| [23:38:11] | Korny1: | ever kick yourself in the ass cause your a moron and forgot to put your machine as a static IP :/ |
| [23:38:15] | Korny1: | Let me fix that first |
| [23:38:34] | nooneami: | Q: Would you say .25 is production ready? I have a nice and stable .24.1 fixes env going, but I'd really love the automatic metadata feature for recordings. |
| [23:39:15] | skd5aner: | nooneami: several people are running it, but dev is always classified as "unstable" |
| [23:39:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | nooneami: 0.25 doesn't exist yet. |
| [23:39:31] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah, it does now |
| [23:39:41] | nooneami: | I thought I saw release notes for it up. |
| [23:39:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: ooh, it does? oops, my bad. |
| [23:40:07] | wagnerrp: | nooneami: it used to be the next version 'didnt exist' until it was branched and released |
| [23:40:12] | wagnerrp: | and the development version was always trunk |
| [23:40:13] | skd5aner: | nooneami: but what does it say at the top of the release notes :) |
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| [23:40:58] | wagnerrp: | but because of how git wants to do things, the development version is tagged as v0.25pre |
| [23:41:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | nooneami: in any case, I'd wait until mythtv.org and this channel announce it as officially released... |
| [23:41:34] | skd5aner: | actually, refresh this page and see what it says at the top now :) http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.25 |
| [23:41:55] | nooneami: | Haha. :P |
| [23:41:59] | Korny1: | ok sorry back |
| [23:42:48] | Korny1: | can I past the results |
| [23:42:52] | Korny1: | *paste |
| [23:43:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | Korny1: use mythtv.pastebin.com |
| [23:45:07] | Twiggy2cents: | there should be a bundled mythpaste or something |
| [23:45:52] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: pastebin.com no longer allows subdomains |
| [23:46:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | ah, then we should fix the topic. ;-) |
| [23:46:36] | wagnerrp: | it will just redirect to pastebin.com |
| [23:48:54] | wagnerrp: | crapski |
| [23:49:11] | wagnerrp: | forgot a semicolon in the wiki config file |
| [23:50:14] | Korny1: | http://pastebin.com/LMC9rBqY |
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| [23:53:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | Korny1: ah, for just 2 lines you could have pasted. ;-) Sorry about that – more than 2 or 3 should be pastebinned. ;-) – Looks like mysql is running as wagnerrp asked. ; |
| [23:54:00] | wagnerrp: | s/wagnerrp/skd5aner/ |
| [23:54:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | well, both of you. ;-) "<wagnerrp> [19:34:57] are you seeing 'grep mysql' as running?" |
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| [23:55:13] | Korny1: | Blah I dunno if rebooting it again fixes it OR if it was a network issue(not having static IP) but it seems to be up now |
| [23:55:17] | Korny1: | I'm confused:/ |
| [23:55:58] | skd5aner: | if you used the actual IP address to setup the connection, rather than 127.0.0.1, then yes... it was likely the IP changing if that's what happened |
| [23:56:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | And static IP is important for when you want to do remote frontends. ;-) |
| [23:56:28] | Korny1: | I feel like an idiot :/ |
| [23:56:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | nah, human. ;-) |
| [23:57:19] | Korny1: | Well least I got it fixed before the game >:) |
| [23:57:50] | Korny1: | And Kudos to whoever does the mythcomflag it works great compared to comskip IMO |
| [23:57:54] | skd5aner: | heh – disaster averted |
| [23:58:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hehehe... I feel the same way, my backend hung (kernel hang) at about 6:05pm, was able to have my son re-boot it while I was on my way home... ;-) I sure didn't want to miss the Burn Notice Season Finale tonight!!!! |
| [23:59:33] | wagnerrp: | actually, commskip was originally based off mythcommflag |
| [23:59:50] | skd5aner: | eh, it oculd be like me – where my mobo has died in mid-augst the last two years right before season premiers :/ |
| [23:59:54] | wagnerrp: | but at some point, it changed ownership, went closed source, and was completely rewritten (hopefully) |
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