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Sunday, September 4th, 2011, 00:01 UTC

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wagnerrp:

way can't people just stop using browse mode?

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wagnerrp:

the world may never know

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Beirdo:

because people work differently :)

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Beirdo:

heh

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sphery:

they'll stop using it when it gets removed...

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Beirdo:

nah, they'll patch it back in... and then complain that it's borked

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Beirdo:

OK, now I know why I *don't* like organic fruit

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wagnerrp:

all the seeds?

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Beirdo:

I was eating a peach and a bug came out of the stone and ran away

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wagnerrp:

hahaha

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wagnerrp:

hey, more protein!

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Beirdo:

and the rest of the peach went flying across the room in disgust

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sphery:

but at least the bug wasn't covered in pesticides

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Beirdo:

exactly

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** Beirdo shudders **

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sphery:

probably a better-tasting, chemical-free bug, too

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Beirdo:

at least it was nearly done by the time the bastard came out

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** wagnerrp wonders what exactly a 'chemical free bug' is **

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wagnerrp:

im pretty sure all bugs are loaded with chemicals

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Beirdo:

no DDT sprayed on it :)

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sphery:

wagnerrp: but organic bugss have all-natural chemicals

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Beirdo:

heheh

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wagnerrp:

all the best poisons are derived from nature

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sphery:

I don't know... commercials tell me that all-natural is always good for me

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Beirdo:

heh. They also tell you that high-fructose corn syrup is "normal" and OK

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** wagnerrp gives sphery an all natural Solanaceae flower **

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Beirdo:

have some all-natural digitalis from this foxglove too

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sphery:

umm, yeah, high-fructose corn syrup is good--scientists said so... http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/ . . . cial/1313759

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sphery:

sounds good... I'll have that with my hemlock tea

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wagnerrp:

i blame corn farmers for coke only being moderately more tasty than pepsi

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Beirdo:

I have some Solanceae in the fridge...

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skd5aner:

blasphemy – pepsi is nasty regardless

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Beirdo:

frigging egplant

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Beirdo:

no tomatoes today though... no tobacco, no potatoes

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skd5aner:

and, you could always buy mexican pepsi – made with real sugar – can't speak for the water quality though – but I know coke has high standards for their bottlers

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Beirdo:

lots of dried peppers though

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Beirdo:

nightshade family FTW

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skd5aner:

s/mexican pepsi/mexican coke

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skd5aner:

if you want pepsi with real sugar, you can just buy pepsi throwback

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Beirdo:

Pepsi is good for upset stomachs.

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skd5aner:

why coke doesn't do that, I don't know

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wagnerrp:

sphery: the biggest problem with HFCS is that your body doesnt really know what to do with it

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wagnerrp:

sure, it can process it alright

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Beirdo:

made from the same general stuff as pepto-bismol, IIRC

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wagnerrp:

but theres no trigger for 'ive had enough fructose'

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sphery:

who should I trust, scientists, or wagnerrp, who's drinking wine from a coffee mug at 10am?

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skd5aner:

I saw Heinz is starting to sell ketchup with real sugar... bought some at the grocery last week

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Beirdo:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

so its not 'bad' for you, there just no inherent moderation trigger

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Beirdo:

sphery: those scientists have been drinking vodka since 8am

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sphery:

http://thereareworsethingsthancornsyrup.com/

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Beirdo:

there's nothing wrong with corn syrup

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sphery:

(though it should /really/ take you directly to that video on the website, rather than the home page)

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Beirdo:

it's the HFCS that's the problem

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

after they mess with it with fun chemicals

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** sphery thinks you guys didn't watch the SNL commercial **

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Beirdo:

nope

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wagnerrp:

oh, i watched it

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wagnerrp:

it was amusing

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Beirdo:

sigh. next round o' cleaning

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wagnerrp:

i also think the guy at the end doesnt hold a candle to chris farley

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skd5aner:

the issue of HFCS asside, why the f does the US have such high tarrifs on sugar to begin with AND STILL has heavily subsidizes corn and HFCS :P

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skd5aner:

It's cheaper to buy sugar in nearly every other country in the world than it is in the US, lame

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wagnerrp:

for the same reason we pump so much money every year into dead end corn ethanol research

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skd5aner:

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0498d.asp

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sphery:

um, if we don't encourage the production of sugar in FL, how in the world will we ever destroy the Everglades?

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skd5aner:

"U.S. sugar prices have been as high as or higher than world prices for 44 of the last 45 years.

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skd5aner:

Sugar sold for 21 cents a pound in the United States when the world sugar price was less than 3 cents a pound."

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skd5aner:

that was in 1980

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sphery:

besides, we have a surplus of corn

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sphery:

oh, wait, no, we actually have a shortage

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sphery:

well, that's ok, let's use corn to make ethanol to save the environment, anyway

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skd5aner:

http://www.ers.usda.gov/briefing/sugar/sugarp . . . rodcosts.pdf

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: did you know that DDT was only around 50% more lethal than caffeine?

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wagnerrp:

and less than half as lethal as nicotine

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Beirdo:

yeah, whatever :)

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Beirdo:

depends on how it's used, etc, I'm sure

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jvava:

hi

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Beirdo:

OK, load 2 in the washer.

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jvava:

lsusb say it is "beholder international ltd", but mythtv say cant find device, how to do?

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wagnerrp:

jvava: what does your device actually say it is, stamped on the side

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wagnerrp:

all youve given is a manufacturer

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jvava:

i have not saw any other message, wager

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wagnerrp:

and its a completely unknown manufacturer at that

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wagnerrp:

this is a USB tuner, correct?

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jvava:

yes, very yes.

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wagnerrp:

so unplug it

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wagnerrp:

turn it over

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wagnerrp:

there should be a brand or model name stamped on the side

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wagnerrp:

or... look at the box it came in

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sphery:

note, also, that lsusb can tell you what it is even if there's no driver loaded

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wagnerrp:

yeah, i told him that in the other channel

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sphery:

until the driver is loaded, mythtv won't find the device

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jvava:

oh, it is a product made in china, the brand is 10moons u340

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sphery:

hehe, explains why I felt like I was missing part of the conversation :)

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wagnerrp:

'u340' shows up nothing on the linuxtv wiki

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jvava:

u means it cant been supported?

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wagnerrp:

as mentioned, we dont support tuners

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jvava:

sorry, it is ut340

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wagnerrp:

we only support the linux tuner APIs

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Beirdo:

OK, the balcony is 5ft x 10ft 3.75"

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wagnerrp:

we just use the devices, we dont write the code that makes them work

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wagnerrp:

the #linuxtv project writes the drivers

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sphery:

!url tuners

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MythLogBot:

tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information

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jvava:

i thought it must have a driver at first, but i dont know which driver module should been compiled into kernel

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wagnerrp:

no, all youve told us is that lsusb sees /something/ there

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wagnerrp:

lsusb has nothing to do with the driver infrastructure

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wagnerrp:

all it does is enumerates the bus for all connected devices

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jvava:

it means kernel see a device plugged into only, dont means been drived, right?

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wagnerrp:

correct, linux knows something is plugged into your computer

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wagnerrp:

it may or may not know what to do with it, lsusb doesnt care

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sphery:

what tv standard is this?

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wagnerrp:

is this analog or digital?

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jvava:

i really dont know that

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sphery:

what part of the world?

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jvava:

on window xp, it works

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wagnerrp:

linux != windows

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jvava:

hehe, sure

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Beirdo:

so much for a hammock on the balcony

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wagnerrp:

if the device is an analog tuner, you should see something at /dev/video0

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wagnerrp:

if the device is a digital tuner, you should see something in /dev/dvb/adapter0

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wagnerrp:

if you see neither of those, you need to see the #linuxtv folks about getting your tuner card supported

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wagnerrp:

it may be as simple as adding the device id to the driver and recompiling

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wagnerrp:

it may need special tuning and timing

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wagnerrp:

or, it may need its own driver written from scratch

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wagnerrp:

generally, you buy the tuner based off what you know works with linux

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jvava:

can i use wine play it?

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wagnerrp:

you dont buy the tuner and then try to force linux support

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wagnerrp:

WINE is an interpreter layer for windows software

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wagnerrp:

it has nothing to do with driver support or kernel modules

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jvava:

its that

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wagnerrp:

think of WINE as cygwin is for windows

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jvava:

i have to resolve the driver problem

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jvava:

i see

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wagnerrp:

talk to the #linuxtv people, they may be able to help

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wagnerrp:

but more than likely youll simply have to buy a new tuner that already has linux support

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jvava:

ok ,t hank you again, wager

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jvava:

sigh

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wagnerrp:

spherey linked to the semi-official list of supported tuners

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wagnerrp:

!url tuners

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MythLogBot:

tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information

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wagnerrp:

if you missed it

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jvava:

im checking it

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Beirdo:

OK. Mt Amazon Boxes is no more

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Beirdo:

let's watch some TV

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Beirdo:

cleaning is so overrated :)

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xrdodrx:

hi, i'm having trouble with my wintv-hvr-1250 tv tuner card and mythtv

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xrdodrx:

for one thing, the backend server seems to keep dying all on its own, i start it and it dies and then mythtv-frontend can't connect to it

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xrdodrx:

my card is listed as failed to open and i cannot "Watch TV"

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wagnerrp:

what says 'failed to open'? mythtv-setup or the backend logs?

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xrdodrx:

mythtv-setup

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wagnerrp:

was your backend running when you tried that?

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xrdodrx:

yes

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xrdodrx:

I'm sorry, I've never used this software before :<

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xrdodrx:

Is there any way I can recover

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wagnerrp:

mythtv-setup is the tuner and storage setup application for mythbackend

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wagnerrp:

mythbackend does the recordings

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wagnerrp:

mythfrontend plays back those recordings

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wagnerrp:

did you ever actually run mythbackend?

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xrdodrx:

I ran mythtv-frontend from the applications menu, and it ran myth-backend

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xrdodrx:

a dialog asked me if i wanted to and i said okay

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wagnerrp:

thats a mythbuntu thing

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wagnerrp:

mythtv doesnt do that on its own

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xrdodrx:

but i couldn't watch tv yet, it told me i had to run myth-setup

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xrdodrx:

so i closed mythtv-frontend

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xrdodrx:

ran mythtv-setup

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xrdodrx:

and it said my card failed to open

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wagnerrp:

let me see your backend logs, put them in a pastebin, and paste the link in here

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xrdodrx:

okay

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, http://pastebin.com/Hp4vwSFD

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wagnerrp:

ok, just what the error says, you never configured mythbackend

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wagnerrp:

so it self-terminates due to a sanity check

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wagnerrp:

if the 'mythtv-setup' application reports that tuner card as failed to open

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wagnerrp:

either the user you are running as does not have permission to access the tuner

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wagnerrp:

or some other application already has it opened and locked

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xrdodrx:

hm

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xrdodrx:

But it is working?

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xrdodrx:

Do I need to run mythtv as root?

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xrdodrx:

Or just the backend?

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wagnerrp:

neither

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wagnerrp:

mythbuntu is set up to run mythbackend as user 'mythtv'

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xrdodrx:

(just for complete clarity I'm using xubuntu and installed the package mythtv)

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xrdodrx:

but yes, it had me enter my password to add myself to the mythtv group

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wagnerrp:

if you installed mythtv packages on any blend of ubuntu, you are using mythbuntu

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xrdodrx:

good to know

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xrdodrx:

so..

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xrdodrx:

Run myth-setup again?

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wagnerrp:

mythtv-setup, yes

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wagnerrp:

you must do steps 2, 3, and 4 properly

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, "Analog V4L video device"

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xrdodrx:

"failed to open"

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wagnerrp:

that card is not an analog v4l video device

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xrdodrx:

I know.

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wagnerrp:

it is a DVB device

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wagnerrp:

you need to change the card type in the dropdown to the type you want

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xrdodrx:

oh!

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xrdodrx:

it doesn't autodetect that

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, you'll have to forgive me

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wagnerrp:

when you select a type, it will try to autodetect what is available for that type

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xrdodrx:

I've never used a video capture card on any computer :)

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xrdodrx:

yes, I selected DVB and it detected ATSC

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wagnerrp:

but it will not scan through all the types and enumerate what you have... yet

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wagnerrp:

were looking to have something like that in for 0.26

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xrdodrx:

okay! :) making progress

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xrdodrx:

Do I need to set up anything else in mythtv-setup?

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wagnerrp:

steps 2, 3, and 4

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xrdodrx:

alright

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wagnerrp:

mythbuntu already configures 6 for you, unless you want to change where stuff gets recorded to

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, Step 3 is "Video Sources" and gives me stuff about a program guide

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is a dvr, meaning it expects you to schedule your recordings to watch later

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xrdodrx:

Do I need to register at schedulesdirect.org?

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wagnerrp:

that means you need guide data

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wagnerrp:

for north american users, we get that data through schedules direct

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xrdodrx:

I see

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wagnerrp:

which is a $25/yr fee

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xrdodrx:

hm :<

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xrdodrx:

is there any way to disable that and set manual recordings

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xrdodrx:

I don't have $25 to spend right at this moment unfortunately

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wagnerrp:

that tuner card cost twice that

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xrdodrx:

indeed it did, but it's 11 PM right now :)

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wagnerrp:

you can pay $7 for 3 months

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wagnerrp:

you also can sign up for a 7 day free trial

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wagnerrp:

which means 21 days before you run out of guide data

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, thanks a lot, got it running :D

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, I don't think I have much use for such a service since I use an antenna with my card

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xrdodrx:

And get around 3 channels

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wagnerrp:

you /can/ use EIT data

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wagnerrp:

but that gets you all of around 12 hours of data

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wagnerrp:

and it tends to be pretty poor data at that

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xrdodrx:

i'll take my chances

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wagnerrp:

if you intend to use mythtv long term, you dont want to

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wagnerrp:

and only three channels?

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wagnerrp:

that doesnt sound right

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wagnerrp:

unless youre living out in the boonies, you should at least get the four majors, and a pbs

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, atlantic city :<

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wagnerrp:

and each of those stations will have multiple subchannels

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xrdodrx:

indoor antenna

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xrdodrx:

I'm planning on getting a roof mount one

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wagnerrp:

yikes

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wagnerrp:

http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_w . . . neup_7405316

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wagnerrp:

xrdodrx: see above link ^^^

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sphery:

so, did MS's Bing service just go down?

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sphery:

seems to be doing a redirect loop

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wagnerrp:

how so?

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wagnerrp:

like you click a link, and it bounces you right back?

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sphery:

http://www.bing.com/ -> 302 with Location http://microsoft.com -> 301 with Location http://www.microsoft.com ...

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sphery:

no, like I can't even get to the main page

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wagnerrp:

oh, dont know about that one

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sphery:

can you get to http://www.bing.com/ ?

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wagnerrp:

works here

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, i see it, are those all the channels I should be getting?

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wagnerrp:

silicondust sells the hdhomerun, a network attached ATSC tuner

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wagnerrp:

one of its duties is to periodically scan the local channels, and push them to the silicondust website to populate that service

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xrdodrx:

I've only got two channels lol

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wagnerrp:

so those are the channels a HDHR user in that zip code is getting

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xrdodrx:

NBC 40 and one religious channel

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xrdodrx:

maybe i should consider investing in a better antenna

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wagnerrp:

even 6 is terrible

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wagnerrp:

i get like 30 channels around here

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xrdodrx:

really?

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, what kind of antenna setup do you have?

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wagnerrp:

nbc, abc, cbs, fox, cw, this, two pbs stations with half a dozen channels each, weather subchannels on nbc and abc

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wagnerrp:

plus a smattering of other independent channels in the area

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wagnerrp:

using a cheap pair of bunny ears

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xrdodrx:

wow

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xrdodrx:

wagnerrp, I'm using http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=phil . . . =0CFUQ8wIwBg

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sphery:

hmmm... changed my name server and now it works

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sphery:

probably a bad internet cache out there...

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xrdodrx:

i wonder what i'm doing wrong

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xrdodrx:

:<

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wagnerrp:

its possible the atlantic city television market just sucks that hard

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wagnerrp:

but that seems highly unlikely

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xrdodrx:

hm

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wagnerrp:

you might want to check tvfool for a better station map

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xrdodrx:

could it be the cheapness of my antenna?

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xrdodrx:

yes, i did before buying

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sphery:

xrdodrx: might need to increase the timeouts in mythtv-setup when doing your channel scan

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xrdodrx:

sphery, how can i do that? :)

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sphery:

somewhere in the capture card setup area, I think

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sphery:

or maybe input connections?

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xrdodrx:

ah yes

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xrdodrx:

i'll try tripling both numbers

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xrdodrx:

see what happen

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xrdodrx:

s

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sphery:

and make sure you do a full channel scan and wait for it to complete

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Beirdo:

la la la.

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Beirdo:

Tomorrow, book shelves are gonna happen! YAY

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k-man:

anyone know anything about the osx build script?

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k-man:

like why it seems to detect if we ar running on a 64 bit system and then explicitly force 32 bit building?

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dekarl:

Is there an easy way to get the timeSearch query so I can look at it? (it's been using a tempory table of 3/4 GB for a OTA lineup in the past and it's dog slow) proglist.cpp to only carries the bits and pieces.

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trumee:

mythzoneminder only works with shm?

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trumee:

ugggggggg!!!!!!!1 crap

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trumee:

Was so happy to get mmap version of zoneminder only to find out mythzoneminder doesnt work with mmap

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trumee:

Shared memory version of zoneminder is ugly

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andreask73:

Anyone got the "Play Recording on Frontend:" function in mythweb working? I don't get a listing of the available frontends....

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andreask73:

Can't seem to find any information on the web about it either...

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wagnerrp:

it uses the frontend control socket

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wagnerrp:

your frontends must individually have the control socket enabled for it to work

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andreask73:

Which is default 6546 right? And setup on the first few setup screens on the frontend. In that case it is enabled.

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wagnerrp:

yes

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andreask73:

Ok. I found something on the net about the server having to be able to do name resolution, which it can't at the moment, trying to sort that out and see if it helps.

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andreask73:

Which it did :-) Now it should work. Thanks!

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oobe:

[10000]

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MythLogBot:

SVN 10000: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/e8363741

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skd5aner:

yay, TWC has decided to move some QAM channels again... grrrrr

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** skd5aner hates rescanning for digital channels in mythtv **

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sphery:

OTA ftw! Last time I had to rescan was when the analog transmissions were stopped and the broadcasters moved to their final frequencies...

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iamlindoro:

sphery: CableCard tuning is pretty nice, too, since you only need to worry about the logical channel numbers changing ;)

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sphery:

heh, yeah

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sphery:

and even then, you don't re-scan--you re-fetch or just edit the freq id

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sphery:

hehe, anyone read the register, here? http://www.theregister.co.uk/

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sphery:

I'm thinking that's not just some elaborate intro for one of their stories on Anonymous/Antisec/LulzSec/...

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wagnerrp:

it was good as recent as four hours ago (google cache)

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sphery:

yeah, my rss downloader was able to get to the rss fee 3hr 23min ago

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sphery:

er, feed

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wagnerrp:

people on slashdot are making fun of him for copyrighting his logo

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wagnerrp:

claims are that the site is fine, but DNS is hosed

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wagnerrp:

seems he redirected the website to some cloud host in columbus

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Beirdo:

OK, this is odd

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Beirdo:

I have stuck on the OSD: 1: Undetermined AC3 5.1ch

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Beirdo:

It won't go away, and ESC won't exit the recording

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Beirdo:

never seen this before

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Beirdo:

screw it. Deleted

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Beirdo:

and building current master, I'm a few days behind

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Beirdo:

hahahahahh

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Beirdo:

the actual keyboard for the frontend fell on the floor and had something sitting on it, causing constant keystrokes

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Beirdo:

no wonder.

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Beirdo:

not a mythtv bug, a luser bug

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Beirdo:

whew

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Beirdo:

muuuch better

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wagnerrp:

sphery: seems he broke security at the registrar, and altered the authoritative DNS servers to his own for dozens of sites

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wagnerrp:

redirecting them all to some poor under-equipped cloud host based in columbus ohio

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sphery:

hehe, yeah, definitely looks like a different server

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sphery:

wonder which story he's upset with

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wagnerrp:

i dont think the register was the intended target

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wagnerrp:

i think its more collateral damage

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wagnerrp:

just one of the accounts he compromised when he took the registrar

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Seeker`:

bah, had my backend screw up 3 times today with that irq nobody cared message

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Beirdo:

let's watch some TV while cooling down

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Beirdo:

building shelves with no helper's no fun

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wagnerrp:

seems one of the borderlands artists dislikes the flat earth people

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wagnerrp:

i started another run through, and looked at some of the graffiti on the wall

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wagnerrp:

someone wrote 'turtles all the way down'

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mycosys:

rofl

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