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| [02:20:19] | GreyFoxx: | ~d |
| [02:32:48] | Seeker`: | I made a cron job to defragment my drives every night |
| [02:32:53] | Seeker`: | my system load average atm is 30 |
| [02:33:16] | [R]: | seems a bit excessive |
| [02:33:20] | Seeker`: | myes |
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| [02:36:11] | Seeker`: | I'm an idiot |
| [02:36:23] | Seeker`: | put a * instead of 0 in the minutes column |
| [02:38:02] | Seeker`: | so instead of 1 defrag process, there were 60 |
| [02:39:45] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:41:17] | Seeker`: | and they have a ll just been kicked off |
| [02:41:27] | Seeker`: | don't really want to kill them now |
| [02:47:53] | Seeker`: | yup, 37 processes |
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| [03:38:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | Grr... one of my 1TB drives just reported 61 bad sectors via SMART..... ouch... |
| [03:38:31] | [R]: | backup! |
| [03:38:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | I just added 2TB – I'll just have to take that drive out of my storage group, and move the recordings over to other drives... |
| [03:40:08] | wagnerrp: | forward! |
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| [06:53:29] | FabriceMG: | in mythfilldatabase , the --xmlfile option replace the --file option ? |
| [06:54:00] | FabriceMG: | version 0.25 |
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| [07:08:27] | Gibby: | whoever mentioned putting my hd-pvrs on seperate usb buses.. thanks.... rebuilt a new box... took a week or 2 but i got everything migrated to it and working pretty good |
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| [08:31:12] | pheld: | Has anyone here tested a tegra2/android tablet as upnp/dlna-client to watch myth recordings, and if so is it able to play HD and render subtitles? (should be capable of handling H.264 up to about 20Mbps) |
| [08:33:31] | laga: | I have a lirc_serial receiver and a programmable universal remote. I'm lazy. Any tips which remote config I should use? I can just program the remote accordingly ;) |
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| [09:58:26] | justinh: | laga: good news! I grabbed a different image, not a cyanogenmod one though... and it's all good. pity the open source one is so full of bugs right now |
| [09:59:08] | justinh: | laga: BTW my remotes are both JP1 programmable – solve the problem both ways |
| [09:59:18] | justinh: | anyway since when was using irrecord that much of a pain? |
| [10:00:06] | justinh: | ahh one thing that might bother you is that on those universal remotes not all buttons are always active |
| [10:00:20] | justinh: | that's why I had to resort to JP1 reprogramming |
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| [11:52:06] | shiggity: | sup again all |
| [11:53:06] | shiggity: | sooo I finally got the database working and whatnot, but now my program guide isn't working right |
| [11:53:11] | shiggity: | I use schedulesdirect.org |
| [11:53:36] | EvilGuru: | Can the frontend convert 5.1 AAC => AC3 for dumping over SPDIF? |
| [11:53:46] | shiggity: | the channel titles I can deal with later... I just want the scheduling itself to display what's on properly |
| [11:54:04] | shiggity: | also I can't get any remote clients on my network (i.e. my dad's laptop) connecting to the backend |
| [11:55:42] | EvilGuru: | shiggity: None of what you have said it at all helpful. |
| [11:56:13] | EvilGuru: | For example, can your dads laptop not connect to the DB, can it not connect to the backend itself |
| [11:57:16] | EvilGuru: | I have no experience with SD myself, but if it uses mythfilldatabase what is the output from it |
| [11:58:19] | shiggity: | lemme provoke tat |
| [11:58:22] | shiggity: | that* |
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| [11:59:56] | shiggity: | hmm wait would it matter if the frontend is 0.24 branch and the backend is 0.25pre? |
| [12:01:53] | shiggity: | EvilGuru: http://pastebin.com/6eGVCZH1 |
| [12:02:19] | EvilGuru: | shiggity: If the protocols are different then yes |
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| [12:03:07] | sphery: | 0.24-fixes has protocol and database versions that are incompatible with unstable/development |
| [12:03:14] | shiggity: | sheet |
| [12:03:15] | shiggity: | ok |
| [12:03:24] | shiggity: | lemme compile the latest 0.24 then |
| [12:03:39] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . 2Fbackend.3F |
| [12:03:48] | sphery: | note, also, that you can't downgrade the database |
| [12:04:16] | sphery: | so if you go from unstable/development (0.25pre) to 0.24-fixes, you'll have to either restore your pre-upgrade database backup or start a new database |
| [12:04:26] | shiggity: | bah |
| [12:04:30] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . release_X.3F |
| [12:06:10] | sphery: | shiggity: as far as the schedules direct thing goes (and especially if you're creating a new database, you might as well set it up properly in the first place), see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [12:09:07] | shiggity: | kk |
| [12:11:15] | shiggity: | the latest on the site via tarball is 0.24.1 |
| [12:11:21] | shiggity: | that's a decent version right? |
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| [12:19:44] | shiggity: | hello stoffel |
| [12:21:07] | shiggity: | ...or not |
| [12:22:43] | sphery: | shiggity: no, use 0.24-fixes from the github repo... you can download a tarball there |
| [12:22:53] | sphery: | or just get packages from your distro |
| [12:24:08] | sphery: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/tree/fixes/0.24 and select Downloads and Download tar.gz (not 0.24.1) |
| [12:24:20] | sphery: | and not v0.24 |
| [12:24:28] | sphery: | the "Download Source" section |
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| [12:39:51] | shiggity: | sphery: MythTV-mythtv-v0.24.1-78-g8b9e5ce.tar.gz ? |
| [12:41:02] | sphery: | yeah |
| [12:41:07] | shiggity: | kk |
| [12:41:09] | shiggity: | compiling |
| [12:41:15] | sphery: | that's 0.24.1 + 78 bug fixes |
| [12:41:23] | shiggity: | kk |
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| [12:44:40] | shiggity: | sphery: how would I go about deleting the existing mythconverg db? |
| [12:44:57] | shiggity: | I have nothing important in it |
| [12:48:59] | marsilainen: | hi, I just got a message on screen "TV will soon turn off by Idle TV Standby, press a key to keep it on." but the message still stays on screen after I press a button on the remote? |
| [12:49:11] | shiggity: | o.O |
| [12:49:34] | marsilainen: | oh |
| [12:49:35] | marsilainen: | hang on |
| [12:49:38] | marsilainen: | that was from the tv |
| [12:49:39] | marsilainen: | lol |
| [12:49:44] | marsilainen: | I thought it was from mythtv |
| [12:49:46] | marsilainen: | haha |
| [12:49:47] | marsilainen: | sorry |
| [12:49:58] | shiggity: | XD |
| [12:53:22] | shiggity: | l sp O |
| [12:53:43] | shiggity: | erm k so once this finishes compiling I'll need some guidance to get all set up smoothly |
| [12:53:53] | shiggity: | to get it* |
| [12:59:00] | EvilGuru: | shiggity: The documentation can help you there |
| [12:59:39] | shiggity: | AsahinaMikuru database # mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [12:59:40] | shiggity: | bash: /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql: No such file or directory |
| [12:59:40] | shiggity: | AsahinaMikuru database # |
| [12:59:41] | shiggity: | >_> |
| [13:00:41] | shiggity: | AsahinaMikuru database # mysql -u root |
| [13:00:41] | shiggity: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| [13:00:41] | shiggity: | AsahinaMikuru database # |
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| [13:02:31] | shiggity: | how do I completely wipe my mysql setup so I can start from scratch? |
| [13:04:39] | shiggity: | EvilGuru: ? sphery ? |
| [13:05:00] | EvilGuru: | That is a mysql question, and it is not that hard to find an answer to it :) |
| [13:05:12] | shiggity: | >_> |
| [13:05:42] | EvilGuru: | I'll give you a clue: you want to drop the mythconverg database |
| [13:06:35] | shiggity: | what's the command? |
| [13:06:41] | shiggity: | mysql drop mythconverg? |
| [13:09:58] | shiggity: | help me >_> |
| [13:11:33] | shiggity: | I forgot my root pass |
| [13:11:34] | shiggity: | fuck |
| [13:11:46] | Seeker`: | justinh was getting problems with deadlocks and this error in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/rp5LW4hQ ? |
| [13:13:20] | EvilGuru: | shiggity: No swearing |
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| [13:14:00] | EvilGuru: | Seeker`: I think he was getting backend deadlocks |
| [13:14:29] | EvilGuru: | As opposed to near kernel-panics |
| [13:15:09] | Seeker`: | hmm. saw someone talking about irq and "nobody cared" recently |
| [13:15:27] | EvilGuru: | It is a kernel problem, should be nothing to do with myth |
| [13:15:49] | Seeker`: | EvilGuru: Its the tuner afaict |
| [13:16:08] | EvilGuru: | Quite possibly, but the driver handling it will be part of the kernel |
| [13:17:49] | EvilGuru: | and they are not fun to hunt down |
| [13:18:04] | Seeker`: | The frontend is complaining about MYTH_PROTO_VERSION error (where is where the "deadlocked" part came from, as it suggests this might be the cause) |
| [13:18:50] | EvilGuru: | Doesn't that just mean you've got incompativle frontend and backend versions? |
| [13:19:21] | Seeker`: | Either that or the backend isn't responding, which appears to be the case here. |
| [13:19:32] | Seeker`: | The backend reckons it just started recording something, but mythweb is dead |
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| [13:19:59] | EvilGuru: | I think the problem justinh had was related to mysql, but am not 100% sure on that |
| [13:20:19] | Seeker`: | bah, reboot time again |
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| [13:27:57] | shiggity: | EvilGuru: sorry |
| [13:30:29] | shiggity: | bah |
| [13:30:46] | shiggity: | I can't get it to connect to 'mythconverg2' that I made |
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| [14:35:28] | NickHu: | Hey guys, if I use xmltv, how do I get listings for channels that aren't on xmltv? |
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| [14:37:14] | EvilGuru: | NickHu: Over the air |
| [14:37:27] | NickHu: | Does it work without active eit scan? |
| [14:37:40] | NickHu: | Also 2011-08–28 11:06:28.862 IconData: Updating icons for sourceid: 2 |
| [14:37:46] | NickHu: | Has been going for more than 4 hours -.- |
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| [14:42:48] | NickHu: | Screw it, I'm considering dropping the database and starting again |
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| [15:30:01] | tank-man: | offtopic: bestbuy selling bottled water for $40 lol http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/b . . . 00&h=353 |
| [15:30:20] | tank-man: | on the east coast |
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| [16:24:10] | NickHu: | tank-man: That's smart water |
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| [16:28:19] | skd5aner: | I have a feeling corporate will frown upon that when they find out |
| [16:47:52] | tank-man: | 48 bottles of water costs the same as that hp tablet :) |
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| [17:04:05] | likwid--_: | so within videos dir ive created say "Game of thrones" dir which i put episodes in. once i click the folder it shows them and has all meta data.. is there a way to get rid of the link back to Storage Groups? |
| [17:20:58] | likwid--_: | or maybe a way to manipulate it? would putting a .jpg in the main videos folder add that as meta data to the "Storage Groups" link that appears as you enter a folder |
| [17:23:49] | likwid--_: | in "gallery view" mode. |
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| [17:39:21] | sphery: | shiggity: did you get your answer, yet? mysql -uroot -p -e 'DROP DATABASE IF EXISTS mythconverg;' , then http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 , but be careful with the grants/passwords (as doing this will change what your distro set up for you) |
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| [18:06:21] | skd5aner: | is it true that "preserve this recording" will actually allow more showings of a rule to record if you've already met your maximum number of recordings for that show? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/490254#490254 |
| [18:08:06] | sphery: | yes |
| [18:08:21] | sphery: | or, at least it makes sure that they're not deleted |
| [18:08:32] | sphery: | don't know if it would "hold up" recordings |
| [18:08:39] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch knows the details |
| [18:08:46] | sphery: | (and seems he survived the hurricane) |
| [18:08:56] | sphery: | or at least his computer did... |
| [18:10:04] | sphery: | 20091025 21:12:51<+Captain_Murdoch> xris, the number to keep is always the max (not counting the 'preserve-ed' episodes). the 'record new/expire old' allows new episodes to be recorded so that you always have the 'X' newest episodes. if that setting is off, the we stop recording when we hit X number of episodes. |
| [18:10:20] | sphery: | guess I should have put in some spaces so I didn't ping both of them... Sorry guys |
| [18:10:57] | sphery: | so it marks the show to not even count toward X |
| [18:11:49] | sphery: | glad you made me look it up--I didn't before I replied to the e-mail because I "knew" it was right. But then when you asked in here, I started second-guessing myself. |
| [18:14:18] | wagnerrp: | sphery: well ive just set up different modes for each different recording type |
| [18:14:30] | wagnerrp: | to match whether a recording is from a certain rule |
| [18:14:51] | sphery: | wow, your little project is turning into a large project |
| [18:15:23] | sphery: | so you basically go through the rules and try to figure out which one would have matched the recording? |
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| [18:15:41] | wagnerrp: | the only reason i really care for that information is for the inetref |
| [18:15:54] | wagnerrp: | so if there are multiple matches with the same inetref set, ill just pick the first |
| [18:15:56] | sphery: | you do know about recordid in oldrecorded, right? |
| [18:16:14] | wagnerrp: | well this is going off the assumption there is no oldrecorded record either |
| [18:16:19] | sphery: | (but that doesn't help with ones that aren't there--not sure how old you're allowing them to be) |
| [18:16:22] | sphery: | ah, yeah |
| [18:16:29] | wagnerrp: | if there is one, then i just recover with from oldrecorded and be done with it |
| [18:16:52] | sphery: | good assumption for relatively-recent stuff after a DB crash/restore (for the "in between" recordings) |
| [18:17:02] | wagnerrp: | if there are multiple matches, with different inetrefs, ill postpone until later and ask the user |
| [18:17:14] | sphery: | cool |
| [18:17:19] | wagnerrp: | the only use recovering from oldrecorded would be for is an 'undelete' feature |
| [18:18:39] | sphery: | yeah |
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| [18:36:09] | wagnerrp: | no idea how to handle power rules though |
| [18:39:45] | skd5aner: | sphery: yea, thanks... that's good info to have. I have several shows where I've kept a few favorite episodes, but would like them to not count against the max recording count – didn't realize preserve would help in that situation |
| [18:40:26] | skd5aner: | doesn't matter now since I'm still without a mobo for the be |
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| [19:13:03] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I've always wondered about that... I've got a few custom rules, for examle "series premiers" that will find pilots, but sometimes I'll setup rules for those series as well – in that case, an inetref on a custom rule won't really help much, but the one for the series will |
| [19:13:13] | jams: | sphery- any plans to add an option to disable upnp in config.xml or via an enviroment variable? I know about the cmdline option but would rather be able to set it once and forget about it |
| [19:18:10] | skd5aner: | hahahaha – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-14689055 |
| [19:19:46] | StevenR: | is it safe to clear out the livetv directory? (I'm not watching live tv right now) |
| [19:19:49] | jams: | skd5aner- there is a documenty called superheros, that addresses a similiar topic. |
| [19:19:58] | jams: | might be able to catch it on hbo |
| [19:20:08] | wagnerrp: | StevenR: no |
| [19:20:20] | wagnerrp: | it is never safe to manually delete any files mythtv wants to manage |
| [19:20:21] | skd5aner: | if I saw that guy running around in the shadows, I'd call the cops on him |
| [19:21:04] | skd5aner: | StevenR: there's a setting for how frequently mythtv will delete live tv recordings – I think it defaults to 24 hours... but it'll also delete them if it needs the space |
| [19:21:54] | skd5aner: | jams: sounds interesting – I don't mind people who want to protect a neighborhood – but people shouldn't be foolish enough to think they're actually a superhero |
| [19:22:21] | StevenR: | skd5aner: ok. If it's going to clean them up itself, then that's fine. thanks. |
| [19:22:25] | skd5aner: | jams: also, that guy just looks rediculous in the video.. I expected to see him break out into shoulder rolls at any second while crossing a street |
| [19:22:25] | jams: | that was one of the topics they sorta addressed |
| [19:22:28] | StevenR: | wagnerrp: thought it mightn't be. Thanks |
| [19:23:37] | skd5aner: | "I just grunted" "you what?" "I growled.. you know, like 'grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr' then was like 'move on!" |
| [19:23:40] | jams: | skd5aner- if your looking to patrol the streets you can sign up with xtreme justice league |
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| [19:24:20] | karl__: | hi, i user myth 0.24 on debian squeeze with gnome desktop |
| [19:24:28] | skd5aner: | meanwhile, back at the hall of justice... aka, my breakfast knook |
| [19:24:50] | karl__: | i have just enabled the gnome-screensaver, and it seems its not disabled while mythtv is running |
| [19:25:11] | skd5aner: | sounds like a question for sphery |
| [19:25:12] | wagnerrp: | that is correct |
| [19:25:13] | karl__: | anyone know how to get myth to disable the screensaver during playback ? |
| [19:25:32] | skd5aner: | "don't use gmome screensaver"? :) |
| [19:25:52] | wagnerrp: | since gnome-screensaver does not follow the standard X11 interface for applications to prevent the screen saver from activating |
| [19:26:03] | wagnerrp: | so you could say mythtv doesnt support gnome-screensaver |
| [19:26:11] | wagnerrp: | or you could say gnome-screensaver is broken |
| [19:26:12] | wagnerrp: | your choice |
| [19:26:23] | karl__: | is it the --poke issue ? |
| [19:26:47] | wagnerrp: | poke? |
| [19:27:35] | karl__: | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=541968 |
| [19:27:38] | wagnerrp: | seems --poke only receives events when the screensaver is not active |
| [19:27:39] | jams: | karl__- guess is depends on what you mean by that, but yes gnome screensavers poke doesn't always work. it sames to vary from version to version |
| [19:27:46] | karl__: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8639 |
| [19:27:50] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8639 |
| [19:27:54] | wagnerrp: | doh! |
| [19:29:05] | ** sphery could link you to all the rants he's made on the users list about GNOME and KDE screensavers and their idiotic approach ** | |
| [19:29:27] | jams: | oh the kde screensavers are even worse |
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| [19:29:30] | karl__: | there seems to be a patch in the debian bugtrack |
| [19:29:43] | sphery: | but, yeah, gnome-screensaver-command --poke is broken and we use gnome-screensaver-command if you have gnome-screensaver running, so... |
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| [19:29:47] | sphery: | don't run gnome-screensaver |
| [19:30:03] | sphery: | disable it and use xscreensaver--the one and only screensaver that actually understands *nix development ;) |
| [19:30:15] | karl__: | ok, gotta give it a try |
| [19:30:31] | jams: | sphery- you wouldn't say that if you ever had to work with the dev |
| [19:30:47] | sphery: | heh, no, I'll fully admit jwz is, er, difficult |
| [19:30:58] | jams: | hehe |
| [19:31:00] | jams: | yep |
| [19:31:20] | sphery: | but at least he doesn't write his code to use a completely broken approach where every single app in the world needs custom code to work with his screensaver |
| [19:31:43] | sphery: | and, besides, he's probably earned the right to be difficult |
| [19:31:48] | karl__: | hmm, so i install xscreensaver, do i have to remove gnome-screensaver ? |
| [19:32:04] | sphery: | shouldn't need to remove it--just need to somehow tell your distro to not run it |
| [19:32:09] | sphery: | s/distro/desktop/ |
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| [19:32:29] | karl__: | and how do i do that in debian with gnome ?.... |
| [19:32:38] | jams: | maybe..but not that difficult. I have had afew encounters with him,it didn't really end well :) |
| [19:33:10] | sphery: | I had one encounter--wherein we were both right about different parts of an argument, but we were both wrong about parts, too |
| [19:33:31] | sphery: | so at least I understand his dismissiveness to my submission |
| [19:33:44] | jams: | so moving on..did you see my question about upnp? |
| [19:33:50] | sphery: | if only I knew then what I know now... |
| [19:33:55] | sphery: | no, didn't |
| [19:34:21] | jams: | was wondering if upnp could be disabled in config.xml or via a enviroment variable |
| [19:34:42] | jams: | the cmdline option is ok, but i would rather set it once and forget about it |
| [19:35:16] | sphery: | karl__: fwiw, we had some code at one point to support use of freedesktops xdg-screensaver script... Unfortunately, xdg-screensaver was buggy (because KDE and GNOME decided on a stupid design that made it mostly impossible to do things right) and it actually made things worse |
| [19:35:38] | wagnerrp: | jams: not that i am aware of |
| [19:36:21] | sphery: | so I submitted 3 patches to xdg-screensaver, and so far the 2 required to fix KDE screensaver support haven't been put in, but the one for GNOME screensaver support (which included the GNOME-specific versions of the changes in the 2 KDE patches) was accepted |
| [19:36:59] | sphery: | so, I'm waiting for them to put in the KDE fixes, then I'll put back xdg-screensaver support--with a check that you have a sufficiently-new version of xdg-screensaver--and it will allow you to use any broken screensaver you want :) |
| [19:38:50] | justinh: | Seeker`: since I installed the debug packages, not a single booboo from my backend. blimmin typical |
| [19:39:13] | Seeker`: | justinh: hah. Were you getting "noone cares" errors in your dmesg? |
| [19:39:13] | justinh: | the update pulled in a newer libc.. maybe that helped |
| [19:39:17] | justinh: | no |
| [19:39:20] | sphery: | jams: I don't know of a way, either... |
| [19:39:28] | karl__: | ok, i installed xscreensaver and configured it |
| [19:39:29] | Seeker`: | bah, I wonder who was |
| [19:39:45] | karl__: | it seems to have disabled gnome-screensaver for this session, lets see how far we get |
| [19:39:49] | jams: | k..maybe i will add it |
| [19:39:54] | sphery: | karl__: good luck |
| [19:43:36] | sphery: | Why are so many projects switching to SCons and CMake? I just don't understand the draw. |
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| [19:44:00] | jams: | me either |
| [19:44:10] | sphery: | "Snakes... Why'd it have to be snakes?" |
| [19:44:38] | jams: | always found those projects that use it, to be a bit more difficult to work with. |
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| [19:44:54] | sphery: | agreed |
| [19:45:13] | jams: | maybe because it has color output when running cmake |
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| [19:45:48] | wagnerrp: | i dont even know what scons is |
| [19:46:09] | wagnerrp: | other than a dense pastry |
| [19:46:09] | [R]: | isn't it a pastry? |
| [19:46:12] | [R]: | lol |
| [19:47:04] | wagnerrp: | jams, youre decent at python |
| [19:47:15] | wagnerrp: | do you know of any way to enumerate a class's entire namespace? |
| [19:47:34] | sphery: | heh, well, the S(oftware)Cons(truction) tool is similarly dry and crumbly |
| [19:47:36] | wagnerrp: | i have a RECTYPE class that has a bunch of static attributes |
| [19:47:45] | wagnerrp: | and its subclassed by Record |
| [19:48:03] | wagnerrp: | i want to pull all attributes out of Record that start with 'k' |
| [19:48:25] | wagnerrp: | i could import RECTYPE directly, and pull it from there |
| [19:48:30] | wagnerrp: | but i would prefer not to |
| [19:49:02] | jams: | hmm, can't think of anything |
| [19:49:03] | karl__: | ok, i was watching uncle charlie.. and xscreensaver just engaged |
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| [19:51:15] | wagnerrp: | jams: looks like 'dir()' does it |
| [19:52:15] | karl__: | do i have to restart the frontend or something ? |
| [19:58:29] | wagnerrp: | ooh.. i really like this construction |
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| [20:06:46] | wagnerrp: | jams: this is basically what i was doing... http://pastebin.com/KmyVGHms |
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| [20:07:36] | wagnerrp: | have it autogenerate a reverse lookup against the 'enum' class |
| [20:07:44] | wagnerrp: | and use that to call the proper method |
| [20:08:02] | cxo: | I just installed from the mythbuntu ppa, and i've been reading the manual, but its like half of the menus are missing on my install. I can't find media settings? I'm using the default theme |
| [20:08:33] | wagnerrp: | media settings will only be visible if you have a plugin installed that exposes options through the media settings menu |
| [20:09:01] | cxo: | I'm trying to just point it to an existing media library |
| [20:09:20] | cxo: | so is that the mythvideo plugin? |
| [20:09:22] | wagnerrp: | then you need to use mythvideo, and then you shouldnt be pointing it at the media library using anything in that menu |
| [20:09:41] | wagnerrp: | you should define your content using the Videos storage group in mythtv-setup |
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| [20:10:20] | cxo: | I did, but i guess i havent installed mythvideo |
| [20:10:37] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo |
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| [20:11:07] | cxo: | so is it accessible from mythv osd? |
| [20:11:13] | cxo: | ^mythtv |
| [20:11:17] | wagnerrp: | is what accessible? |
| [20:11:34] | cxo: | mythvideo |
| [20:11:46] | wagnerrp: | once you install it, it is accessible through the media library |
| [20:12:11] | cxo: | ah great, now I have the "Media Settings" menu |
| [20:12:23] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, you dont want to use that menu |
| [20:12:34] | wagnerrp: | nor do you want to define your storage using the options in that menu |
| [20:14:00] | cxo: | Ok. But thats what I've been reading online. So how do i see my existing video collection? |
| [20:14:16] | wagnerrp: | by adding the folder to the Videos storage group in mythtv-setup |
| [20:15:06] | cxo: | i've already added a directory there |
| [20:15:18] | wagnerrp: | the directory containing your media library? |
| [20:15:20] | cxo: | Yes |
| [20:15:29] | cxo: | but i dont see it in mythtv frontend |
| [20:15:42] | wagnerrp: | then install mythvideo, go into media library --> watch videos, hit 'm', and then 'scan for changes' |
| [20:16:38] | wagnerrp: | sphery: do you know where the scheduler SQL is off hand? |
| [20:16:39] | cxo: | Ah cheatcodes, cool |
| [20:16:56] | wagnerrp: | there are a couple of the recording modes i dont exactly understand how they operate |
| [20:17:16] | cxo: | so do i need to remove the configuration I made through Media Settings now? |
| [20:18:34] | sphery: | wagnerrp: it's in programs/mythbackend/scheduler.cpp |
| [20:18:39] | wagnerrp: | you can, if that folder and the one you defined in mythtv-setup are the same, mythtv will simply ignore it |
| [20:18:42] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: mythbackend/scheduler.cpp |
| [20:18:43] | wagnerrp: | sphery: thanks |
| [20:18:46] | iamlindoro: | d'oh |
| [20:18:50] | sphery: | I win! |
| [20:18:54] | iamlindoro: | indeed |
| [20:19:09] | ** sphery wonders if that's trademarked by apple ** | |
| [20:20:17] | iamlindoro: | You'll have to wait for the takedown notice to find out |
| [20:23:44] | cxo: | How do i get thumbnails for my Videos? |
| [20:23:52] | wagnerrp: | hit 'm' |
| [20:23:55] | wagnerrp: | erm... 'w' |
| [20:26:30] | cxo: | hmm. Is there like a select-all-make-your-best guess-and-just-do-it, key? |
| [20:26:45] | wagnerrp: | through the 'm' or 'i' menu |
| [20:26:52] | wagnerrp: | its in one of those, i dont recall where exactly |
| [20:27:09] | wagnerrp: | (assuming youre running 0.24) |
| [20:28:02] | karl__: | ok, xscreensaver seems to work, thanks a lot for your help |
| [20:28:27] | cxo: | "Retrieve All Details? doesnt seem to do anything |
| [20:28:41] | wagnerrp: | give it time, it runs in the background |
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| [20:28:56] | cxo: | oh |
| [20:29:18] | wagnerrp: | youll need to leave it in mythvideo while it is churning through stuff |
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| [20:29:24] | cxo: | Do i get a log output/progress anywhere? |
| [20:29:43] | wagnerrp: | maybe somewhere in /var/log/mythtv? |
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| [20:30:20] | cxo: | nice. i see it |
| [20:31:22] | cxo: | By the way, where does it store all this metadata? |
| [20:31:41] | cxo: | (my video library is a ro nfs mount) |
| [20:31:57] | wagnerrp: | metadata gets stored in the database |
| [20:32:11] | wagnerrp: | artwork gets stored in the various artwork storage groups |
| [20:32:22] | wagnerrp: | Snapshots, Fanart, Banners, ... |
| [20:32:27] | wagnerrp: | assuming you defined them |
| [20:32:43] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, it will try to store to the Videos storage group, and apparently fail because its a ro NFS mount |
| [20:32:56] | cxo: | Well I left the defaults. Should be ok i think. So its smart enough to categorise into those folders? |
| [20:33:22] | wagnerrp: | default is to just use the filesystem layout |
| [20:33:40] | wagnerrp: | however through the 'm' menu, you can tell it to use other views |
| [20:33:49] | wagnerrp: | where the tree is automatically generated |
| [20:38:48] | cxo: | Whats the metadata update policy? Does it happen for all files when you ask it to scan or does it happen only for newly added files? |
| [20:39:16] | wagnerrp: | the bulk updater only runs on one file once |
| [20:39:35] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, you must run it manually |
| [20:39:50] | wagnerrp: | if you want to rescan after providing folders to store images in |
| [20:39:59] | wagnerrp: | unmount the media library, rescan, mount it, and scan again |
| [20:40:32] | wagnerrp: | if you have the proper setting enabled, it will automatically run the bulk metadata grabber on any new content after the scan |
| [20:42:23] | cxo: | How do you change the number of items shown in the gallery view grid? Its 4 x 7 now, I'd like 4 x 4 |
| [20:42:33] | wagnerrp: | you edit the theme |
| [20:42:39] | wagnerrp: | or choose a different theme |
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| [20:43:42] | cxo: | oh i thought that would be runtime configurable |
| [20:44:46] | wagnerrp: | it used to be years ago |
| [20:45:04] | wagnerrp: | but with the UI rewrite, most of the control was taken away from the user, and put in the hands of the themer |
| [20:45:35] | wagnerrp: | easier for the themer to achieve a 'look' when they dont have to worry about the user fiddling with things outside their control |
| [20:46:46] | cxo: | How do you start the theme chooser frontend? |
| [20:46:55] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
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| [20:48:10] | cxo: | i need to read up on how to install themes |
| [20:48:12] | sphery: | cxo: Utilities/Setup|Setup|Theme Chooser |
| [20:48:30] | sphery: | cxo: and if you're on 0.24-fixes, hit MENU (M), then something about show downloadable themes |
| [20:49:19] | cxo: | I'm using ppa mythbuntu 0.24, dont know if that has the fixes |
| [20:49:57] | sphery: | well, by that I mainly meant, "Unless you're using the unstable/development version, do ^^^" |
| [20:51:28] | cxo: | I dont mind building mythtv. Is it kinda like ffmpeg? whereby the version thats in the repos are ancient? |
| [20:52:18] | wagnerrp: | the mythbuntu ppas are rebuilt nightly as needed |
| [20:55:46] | cxo: | Doesnt look very easy to change my grid configuration. the xml looks complicated |
| [20:59:06] | cxo: | Is there a way of manually providing a image file for the ones the auto grabber couldnt find anything for? |
| [20:59:29] | wagnerrp: | movie or television show? |
| [21:01:25] | wagnerrp: | anyway, there is a selection mechanism built into the 'i' menu |
| [21:01:31] | wagnerrp: | but for anything commercial |
| [21:01:45] | wagnerrp: | the better option is to add an image to the sites accessed by the grabber scripts |
| [21:01:51] | wagnerrp: | themoviedb.org and thetvdb.com |
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| [21:08:52] | cxo: | whenever my screensaver kick in, the backend crashes and the osd restarts |
| [21:09:08] | wagnerrp: | that makes no sense |
| [21:09:25] | wagnerrp: | the backend has nothing to do with X |
| [21:09:37] | cxo: | hmm, yup, could just be the osd thats restarting |
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| [21:14:51] | cxo: | exit code is 139 |
| [21:15:11] | wagnerrp: | does all of X crash? |
| [21:15:16] | wagnerrp: | or just mythfrontend? |
| [21:15:22] | cxo: | just the frontend |
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| [21:18:54] | stuartm: | sphery: what models were the low TDW AMD cpus that you were recently mentioning? |
| [21:19:13] | stuartm: | and I'm sorry if that's a bit vague :) |
| [21:19:23] | wagnerrp: | the 'e' versions? |
| [21:19:34] | wagnerrp: | the low power AMD chips are the same as the standard power AMD chips |
| [21:19:42] | wagnerrp: | just binned and undervolted for a lower power consumption |
| [21:20:56] | cxo: | You can seriously undervolt those Athlon IIs |
| [21:21:17] | stuartm: | right, I was just looking for some model numbers since I'm not finding much by trawling through the available stock on ebuyer |
| [21:21:36] | wagnerrp: | 240e, 420e, 605e |
| [21:21:37] | stuartm: | maybe I should be looking at the amd site instead |
| [21:21:39] | cxo: | I got my X2 250 (3ghz) from 1.375v, to 2Ghz @ 1v |
| [21:21:41] | wagnerrp: | (dual, triple, quad) |
| [21:21:53] | stuartm: | thanks |
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| [21:25:50] | sphery: | stuartm: yeah, I like the Regor dual-core Athlon II models--that's the 250, 255, and 260 and such, and there are some "e" series versions that are guaranteed to be lower TDP |
| [21:27:01] | sphery: | the new Fusion ones seems to be a bit of a gotcha--they're good TDP if you use the AMD GPU in it, but if you don't, you can do better with the no-GPU CPUs (unless the chip/BIOS provides some means of disabling the GPU and cutting power to it) |
| [21:27:13] | stuartm: | I'd be looking at the 605e but it's not really compelling enough to replace my 4850e – price is too high for two extra cores but a frequency drop of 0.2Ghz |
| [21:27:18] | sphery: | so, basically, I haven't looked too much into the post-Athlon II models |
| [21:27:36] | sphery: | yeah, that's much of the reason I'm still going with dual core |
| [21:27:51] | sphery: | though I haven't been able to get a nice 45W TDP CPU for a long time (since my 5050e) |
| [21:27:53] | cxo: | i think i broke the auto-grabber |
| [21:28:15] | sphery: | so I've been buying the 65W ones--the non-e-series version of the same cores |
| [21:28:32] | cxo: | I dont see it doing anything in the log anymore. But if i go over a video and hit 'w', it works |
| [21:28:45] | wagnerrp: | could it be done? |
| [21:28:58] | cxo: | you can get those 65w chips to under 40w very easily |
| [21:29:42] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but the question becomes how far do you have to underclock/volt them |
| [21:29:51] | wagnerrp: | and when youre done, does the chip still have enough power for your needs |
| [21:30:42] | stuartm: | the 4850e is still more or less doing the job, I'd just wondered whether I could get more out of this current mobo for a nominal sum, but there's nothing better than what I've got now in the 'bargin' range |
| [21:30:51] | wagnerrp: | a 2GHz dual core AMD wont cut it for bluray content |
| [21:31:15] | cxo: | I've decreased VCore by 38% and NB by 40%, so guestimage from 65w stock, its at around 45w now for the cpu alone |
| [21:31:16] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: unless you throw in vdpau |
| [21:31:24] | wagnerrp: | true |
| [21:31:29] | cxo: | ^guesstimate |
| [21:32:03] | cxo: | i think even the nvidia IGP with vdpau is enough for bluray |
| [21:32:26] | wagnerrp: | id say youre under 30W TDP for the CPU alone |
| [21:33:01] | stuartm: | I can say that with certainty since my production box _is_ a 2Ghz AMD x2 ... with an Nvidia 8200 IGP and just this last week I've been playing some of my blurays on it :) |
| [21:34:06] | cxo: | The cpu is only 4+degC above room temp |
| [21:34:19] | cxo: | I'm gonna go fanless once i find a decent cooler that'll fit in this box |
| [21:34:27] | stuartm: | bluray actually isn't that challenging, they don't use some of the higher profile features as they do with broadcast making it easier, not harder to play – I guess because quality is more important than space |
| [21:34:47] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: sure, but they kill you in bitrate |
| [21:34:48] | cxo: | currently the fan is on its lowest setting already |
| [21:35:24] | wagnerrp: | cxo: what does cool&quiet do in that situation, since 1V VCore is already lower than it would want to drop it |
| [21:35:27] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: I haven't yet found vdpau to struggle on bitrate grounds, software decoding on the other hand will |
| [21:35:48] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: yeah, VDPAU is supposed to handle anything encompassed in L4.1 |
| [21:36:06] | wagnerrp: | which includes just about anything commercially released |
| [21:36:34] | stuartm: | the stuff on Channel 4 HD, which I'm watching right now seems to push vdpau and this hardware, even a slight background load causes frame drops |
| [21:36:39] | cxo: | you can retune the stepping. Default is 800mhz as the lowest clock. I can make it as low as 400mhz now |
| [21:37:05] | cxo: | not sure how it would change the vcore |
| [21:38:04] | stuartm: | 800Mhz? Hmm, that's a bit lower than the 4850e @ 1Ghz |
| [21:38:20] | wagnerrp: | yeah, all of my AMD stuff bottomed at 1GHz |
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| [21:39:10] | cxo: | right now, i see 800mhz, 1.4, 1.7 and 2.3ghz (weird, cos the clock is 2ghz) |
| [21:39:35] | wagnerrp: | did you underclock using the FSB? |
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| [21:40:40] | cxo: | Not explicitly. The bios on this board only lets me choose the final clock |
| [21:40:58] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall the 250 being unlocked up or down |
| [21:41:05] | wagnerrp: | so it likely changed the FSB |
| [21:41:18] | wagnerrp: | and in doing so, altered the clock speeds for C&Q |
| [21:41:33] | cxo: | not a very good bios for tweaking on this Biostar N68s3 but it has the nfoce 7050 igp on it |
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| [21:41:46] | cxo: | it was on sale for $40 so i bought it |
| [21:42:20] | cxo: | http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/content.php?S_ID=497 |
| [21:49:50] | cxo: | ok so i broke the auto metadata grab thing. Any ideas what happened? |
| [21:50:44] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, it only runs on content once, after which it flips a bit to mark that video as 'processed' |
| [21:51:03] | wagnerrp: | if it already made one full pass, it will not do anything again until you add new content |
| [21:51:49] | cxo: | i dont think it finished its one pass. Cos i can go over some of the videos, hit 'w', and then get a cover |
| [21:52:23] | cxo: | its prematurely flipped its bit |
| [21:58:14] | cxo: | so is this bit in mysql db? |
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| [22:22:53] | cxo: | It seems to duplicate some of my movies in the video library listing |
| [22:23:14] | cxo: | I think it might be only the files with a corresponding .srt file |
| [22:23:27] | cxo: | but both icons work when i select them to play from the osd |
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| [22:31:40] | cxo: | How do you unset a cover art? |
| [22:38:56] | k-man: | morning all |
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| [22:43:40] | dashs_: | How can I acquire the vdpau_x11.h and vdpau.h ? |
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| [23:13:00] | cxo: | dashs_, sounds like files that would come with the nvidia driver |
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| [23:42:03] | wagnerrp: | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| [23:42:16] | wagnerrp: | in deus ex, you trigger a countdown near the end of the game |
| [23:42:35] | wagnerrp: | they use the same access codes as in one of the star treks for self destruct |
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| [23:58:29] | k-man: | cool |
| [23:58:40] | k-man: | I saw the promo vids of deus ex – looks good |
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